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Subtropical Storm Nicole has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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Date	Process	Result
October 16, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
May 25, 2008	Good article reassessment	Kept

Current status: Good article

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Discussions:

RM, Subtropical Storm Nicole (2004) → Subtropical Storm Nicole, No consensus, 19 June 2018, Talk:Subtropical Storm Nicole#Requested move 4 June 2018
MR, Subtropical Storm Nicole (2004) → Subtropical Storm Nicole, Endorsed, 30 July 2018, Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2018 July
RM, Subtropical Storm Nicole (2004) → Subtropical Storm Nicole, Moved, 3 December 2018, Talk:Subtropical Storm Alpha#Requested move 17 October 2018

Todo

Just so you know, you can't assess your own articles. It needs inline sourcing, a good copyedit, a split records and impact section, and info from NHC and CHC discussions. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first sentence bothers me, but I don't know how to modify it in a way that would to easily understandable to the layman. Are you trying to say Nicole was the first system to be called a subtropical cyclone operationally and be named from the traditional Atlantic name set? There have been several systems named that were subtropical initially, even in NHC discussions from the time, but not been called subtropical in the main header of their products and were given a name from the usual name list (More memorable examples from my viewpoint: Hortense through Lili (1984), Juan (1985), Andrew (1986), Charley (1986)). Thegreatdr 20:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think he's saying a named subtropical storm that never became tropical. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, more like Juan (1985) then. That system looked awful in the Gulf of Mexico surrounded to the north by air temperatures in the 50s and 60s and a large stratus shield that reached the Great Lakes while Juan was still centered in the Gulf of Mexico. The change has been made. Thegreatdr 21:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job. Yea, Juan was hardly a typical tropical cyclone. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stub-class

No way this is a start. It has very little info to stand on its own. – Ch acor 11:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't this article a start? It seems to have organized information which is referenced. What more does it need? It doesn't appear much more can be added to it. Thegreatdr 02:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This was a stub-class, but it's since been worked on. Upped. – Ch acor 03:00, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it B class yet? If not, what more is needed? Hurricanehink (talk) 03:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably is good enough to qualify for B-. No major errors I can find. – Ch acor 03:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, I put it up for GA. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA on hold

This article will be put on hold (for 7 days) until these minor adjustments can be made :

1. Well written? Pass

2. Factually accurate? OK Pass

3. Broad in coverage? Pass

4. Neutral point of view? Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images? Pass

Additional comments :

How can a low formed in August cause a tropical storm in October?

Lincher 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I'm sorry about that. I was working on another article (a season article) as I was writing this, and I guess it slipped my mind. That was the only month mistake in the article, and I fixed it. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA passed

Thanks for that fix. Lincher 02:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Sweeps Review: Pass

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 20:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 4 June 2018

This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 9 July 2018. The result of the move review was Close endorsed.

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No Consensus based on this discussion and the discussions at Subtropical Storm Alpha (17972), and Sub Tropical Storm Nicole (2004). Based on the discussions there doesn't appear to be enough substantial participation to justify the move; as such I'm closing this as no-consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination however they should be grouped together in a future nomination. (non-admin closure) --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 01:00, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adding supplementary closing comment (edit conflict with the other two related closures, but conclusion does not conflict with the close above). Closing Talk:Subtropical Storm Andrea (2007), Talk:Subtropical Storm Alpha (1972), and Talk:Subtropical Storm Nicole (2004) as a group; there is no consensus to move these pages to titles without years appended at this time. In the future, when the issues at hand are the same, please propose moving groups of articles using a multimove request. Dekimasuよ! 01:03, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Subtropical Storm Nicole (2004) → Subtropical Storm Nicole – Per the discussion on Talk:Subtropical Storm Alberto, this page should be moved as well, because there is only one subtropical storm named "Nicole". B dash (talk) 06:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 15:54, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. No other Nicole was ever subtropical. ~ KN2731 {t · c} 08:49, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, year is critical for recognizability. Suggest Subtropical Storm Nicole, 2004, both do the pipe trick equally Subtropical Storm Nicole Subtropical Storm Nicole. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:57, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Only subtropical cyclone with this name. Cooper 15:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: This should be discussed in relation to two other current RMs. Relisting all three. See Talk:Subtropical Storm Alpha (1972)#Discussion. Andrewa (talk) 16:04, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per SmokeyJoe and Andrewa's comment at the Alpha RM – year is critical for recognizability, it is already recommended in the Wikiproject convention, and WP:CONCISE does not mean "shorten the title at all costs". No such user (talk) 14:30, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Move discussion in progress

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