Talk:Terri Nunn

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I talked to Terri regarding the Penthouse issue and I showed it to her. She was surprised, looked at the photos and stated categorically that the photos were not of her, though she wished that they were.

You talked to Terri? So you are a biased friend of hers. This article is false. Some sources have her birthday listed as 1959. Ms. Nunn herself has slipped and told a magazine that she almost auditioned for Star Wars when she was 18. The Star Wars audition was in 1975. Ms. Nunn was born sometime between 1957 and 1959. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.180.47.166 (talk • contribs) 23:41, July 5, 2007

Everyone knows that it is her, and that this also means that her real birthdate is June 26 1959 -- not 1961 -- since nude models are required to be 18 years of age. That she'd rather this not be known is understandable, and perhaps we should respect her wishes. But claims of libel and such are spurious. Reality is the best defense against libel. 204.144.129.226 (talk) 20:49, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

There is a lot of too shallow reasoning from both sides above. I note, e.g., that a legal limit on nude models (if indeed the same at the time) does not guarantee that no-one younger is the model. Lying about about ones age to get a job is an (ahem) age old practice.88.77.180.196 (talk) 17:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

In 2011, Ms. Nunn admitted in at least two interviews that the Feb. 1977 Penthouse pictorial of Betsy Harris was indeed her. She said she denied it for several years because she was underaged at the time of the shooting and didn't want to cause problems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.96.5.174 (talk) 00:32, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

re: the nude modeling allegation

Notable rumors are not automatically WP:BLP violations as long as they are not given undue weight and are presented as rumors. This particular rumor has enough currency and persistence that the musician publicly denied it. A google search for "Terri Nunn" in proximity to "Betsy Harris" substantiates the pervasiveness of the rumor. While the nude modeling allegation ought not to be presented as fact and should not be allowed to overshadow the rest of the article, a brief mention of the rumor balanced with her denial seems entirely appropriate.

This position is weighted by the fact that musicians are "public figures" in the sense of the BLP policy. While their privacy must also be respected, the appropriate inclusion standards are different than if this article were about a private citizen. Rossami (talk) 06:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Nothing in WP:BLP even remotely suggests that it's acceptable to insert rumors into an article when there's not a shred of credible supporting information. The Google search referred to turns up a whopping 300-odd hits, which is fewer than my real name turns up, and I'm hardly pervasively present on the internet. Hey, my wikiname turns up five times as many hits! Do I pervade the Internet so much as to deserve an article?

But, more seriously, this rumor has been reviewed and rejected repeatedly in the past, and there's no justification for overturning the longstanding consensus. Wikipedia articles don't cover unfounded rumors, absent extraordinary circumstances. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

On the contrary,WP:BLP explicitly does allow us to include a carefully worded and neutral presentation about a rumor, hoax or other controversy related to a public figure. See the second example under WP:WELLKNOWN. Wikipedia deals with rumors, pseudoscience andhoaxes all the time. We deal with them by educating our readers and debunking the rumors and hoaxes using reliable sources and carefully neutral wording.
The only question when deciding whether or not to include a mention of a rumor or hoax is whether it is sufficiently notable. The fact that the rumor has been reviewed and rejected so many times, the fact that it keeps coming up and the fact that Nunn has gone to the trouble to publicly deny it argue for its notability. (And 300 google hits sounds pretty good for a rumor that's 34 years old and predates the creation of the world wide web by 13. Google can be a useful indicator but it's not definitive.) Rossami (talk) 06:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

This needs a source, even to reference the rumour, per plain old verifiability. I will remove it if not sourced within three days. It may be readded ONLY with a reliable source. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:42, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Here is verifiable source, her own audio inteview. So i repost it. If her OWN words in audio recording, from and radio interview, is not reliable source enough then what is?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.58.120 (talk) 13:04, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

And some fan vandalized it under pretext the fact is "tawdry tidbits". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.58.89 (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Date of Birth

Hi! As far as I can tell, there are two DoB's floating around - one for 1961, which is the one used must most online sites I could find, and one of 1959, which is used in the article. Unfortunately, the 1959 date relies on primary sources, which is problematic according to the BLP policy. So I've removed all mentions at this stage - I don't feel that the article will unduly suffer from not including her DoB, but there are issues that will arise if we include the wrong one. So unless there is a better secondary source to base it on, it seems safer to leave it out, especially per the comments on the BLP page about including dates of birth. - Bilby (talk) 04:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

She is using the 1961 DoB so she can deny the nude Penthouse pictorial was her (as she would have been underage at the time). A lock on the page would probably prevent most future changes, as most emanated from the same I.P. address -- probably her or an associate. What you refer to as "primary sources" included the California State Birth Records Index and the public information database Intelius (although others also list her DOB as 1959 or her current age as 51), which includes DMV records -- again, which would seem a fairly accurate source. SHE is the one claiming it's 1961 -- where's HER backup? --Richiestern (talk) 06:25, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

If there's a doubt as to it, leave it out. I agree with Bilby above. Dayewalker (talk) 06:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

But there shouldn't BE any doubt to it! Whom should we cite - the many public records databases, or the references made by her publicists? It is said there are no secrets in the age of the internet, especially on basic, easily-confirmable information like this! Perhaps we should also remove the birthdate of Zsa Zsa Gabor, since she was known to have whited-out & penciled-over the date on her driver's license.

This is a great new policy! Now, any public figure who doesn't want their true age revealed (which is, of course, perfectly valid information) can simply knock-off years on their press releases, and use that to "dispute" the information on their Wik entry! --Richiestern (talk) 09:34, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Generally, there is an assumption towards privacy with biographies of living people, especially in regard to dates of birth and full names where such information isn't public. What is needed is evidence that shows the information is public, or, more specifically, that it has been reported in multiple secondary sources. We're especially warned against using public documents to source this information. The case here seems so messy - with 1961 and 1959 being reported in various locations - it just seems safer to say nothing. And yes, according the BLP policy, if a person complains about their date of birth being listed it is generally removed to just show the year - which would be fine in this case, except that it is the year which is in dispute. - Bilby (talk) 11:54, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

There is a "Teri K Nunn" listed in the California Birth Index, b. 1959. There is none for 1961. This must be the correct birthdate.75.142.54.211 (talk) 04:10, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Here is my source for 1959: http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/calbirths?c=search&first=teri&last=nunn 75.142.54.211 (talk) 04:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but that doesn't really fix the problem, as it is a primary source still. The concern is that we need reliable secondary sources on this, and they seem to be unavailable, otherwise this is too much like original research. - Bilby (talk) 04:22, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, if she really was born in 1961 then she auditioned for Princess Leia aged 15... 81.155.195.116 (talk) 21:25, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

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Article cleanup?

This is an article about a singer. She has released at least one solo album, Moment of Truth, which has it's own article.

However, the Terri Nunn article is not formatted like that of a music artist, and it is difficult to find her album. I'd request a small discography section be added. Thank you 174.16.130.241 (talk) 16:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Mar-a-Lago New Year's Eve performance

Given the significant coverage of Nunn's performance at Mar-a-Lago, I think it justifies a brief mention. I've drafted the below, which represents a neutral summary of the event and Nunn's response. @45.49.227.65: Does this look appropriate to you?

In 2020, Nunn performed at the Mar-a-Lago New Year’s Eve party. On January 4, 2021, she apologized for the performance, saying that she did not expect the lack of COVID-19 prevention measures and that her appearance was not intended to indicate support for the Republican Party.

POLITANVM ^talk 22:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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Reference named "Apple-Transcendance":

• From Berlin (band): "Transcendance by Berlin on Apple Music". Apple, Inc. August 2, 2019. Retrieved August 8, 2019.
• From John Crawford (musician): "Transcendance by Berlin on Apple Music". Apple, Inc. Retrieved August 8, 2019.

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