Talk:Thomas Jefferson

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Former good article Thomas Jefferson was one of the History good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
Date Process Result
June 25, 2006 Good article nominee Listed
June 15, 2008 Peer review Reviewed
September 3, 2009 Good article reassessment Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article
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Jefferson and Voltaire[edit]

@Yopienso, JayJasper, and TheVirginiaHistorian: Yopienso, I've put off pursing the inclusion of JayJasper's entry regarding the seven works by Voltaire in Jefferson's library for now, as I'm involved elsewhere as I think you know. This "factoid" is interesting and informative and distinguishes Voltaire from the others. The inclusion of these seven works almost resulted in the entire rejection of Jefferson's library when he sold it to the Library of Congress, which should also be mentioned. And 'undue weight' is usually only an issue when someone attempts to carry on about the subject, so using this as a standby excuse in an attempt to block a simple mention of this "factoid" is not very appropriate. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Those factoids are indeed interesting to me as a trivia buff. But they have much more to do with the history of the LOC than with the bio of TJ. YoPienso (talk) 00:39, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Agree, it depends on the way it is treated. It may be the LOC subject belongs in the LOC article, leaving it as background here to justify some other additional coverage of Voltaire and Jefferson's admiration of the man and his work as a principal in the Enlightenment, freeing the mind from chains of the past. Jefferson's open mindedness is one of the reasons some believe him an atheistic freethinker. That is probably not true, but he certainly was not doctrinaire in his beliefs regarding faith or otherwise. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 01:12, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Currently coverage of the LOC, such that it is, is in the Later years section. I would think that mention of Voltaire's works in Jefferson's library would serve to show him as a freethinker, not necessarily an atheist, but one who consulted varied points of view. We could cook two birds in one pot with Voltaire. He gives some insight into Jefferson's varied thinking, while ownership of his works provides a little historical context to the LOC itself where Jefferson was concerned. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Voltaire was a leading historian -- quite apart from his views on religion--and it would be astonishing for Jefferson to not have some of his books. Rjensen (talk) 20:34, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Quite so, Rjensen. Gwillhickers, I mean the Library of Congress article. YoPienso (talk) 10:34, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Preface to Jefferson-Hemings controversy[edit]

@Nygdan: Please remove your editorializing from the Jefferson-Hemings controversy section. My removal of it was not vandalism. Please feel free to discuss here with other editors your wish to add it. Also, please be careful not to use Wikipedia as a soapbox. Thanks. YoPienso (talk) 20:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Why Jefferson didn't free his slaves[edit]

@AndrewOne: I would love to see this include this take on why TJ kept slaves: ". . . the growing debts in his later life may have made him more reluctant to free them (and thereby lose them as financial assets)." Doing so requires a citation from at least one reliable source. The wording isn't the most encyclopedic. Imo, your insertion of "backfire" wasn't, either. Thanks for coming and trying to improve the article. YoPienso (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

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