Talk:Coccinia grandis

Bangladesh Stub‑class Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Bangladesh, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Bangladesh on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BangladeshWikipedia:WikiProject BangladeshTemplate:WikiProject BangladeshBangladesh articles

Stub

This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible.

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Bangladesh To-do list:

Add more images to Bangladesh Liberation War and related pages
Clean up Climate change in Bangladesh, it needs a lot of work
Clean up History of Bangladesh after independence, it needs NPOV
Improve Bangladesh back to FA as it was demoted (see discussion)
Improve Bengali language back to FA as it was demoted (see discussion)
Improve Bengalis and related pages
Take a look at the requested articles.
Make a MRT line 3 article.
Extend, add an infobox and a map of New Eskaton to New Eskaton.

Food and drink

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Food and drinkWikipedia:WikiProject Food and drinkTemplate:WikiProject Food and drinkFood and drink articles

???

This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Food and Drink task list:

To edit this page, select here

Here are some tasks you can do for WikiProject Food and drink:

Help bring these Top Importance articles currently B Status or below up to GA status: Agaricus bisporus (i.e. mushroom), Beef, Bread, Curry, Drink, Food, Ham and eggs, Soy sauce, Sushi, Yogurt
Bring these Top Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Beer, French cuisine, Sugar
Bring these High Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Apple, Burger King, Fish
Participate in project-related deletion discussions.
Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review WP:Trivia and WP:Handling trivia to learn how to do this.
Add the {{WikiProject Food and drink}} project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects, select here.
Provide photographs and images for Category:Wikipedia requested images of food
Consider joining this project's Assessment task force. List any project ideas in this section

Note: These lists are transcluded from the project's tasks pages.

Plants Mid‑importance

	Plants portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Plants, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of plants and botany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PlantsWikipedia:WikiProject PlantsTemplate:WikiProject Plantsplant articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

India Low‑importance

	India portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 17:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Food and drink Tagging

This article talk page was automatically added with {{WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Food or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. The bot was instructed to tagg these articles upon consenus from WikiProject Food and drink. You can find the related request for tagging here . Maximum and carefull attention was done to avoid any wrongly tagging any categories , but mistakes may happen... If you have concerns , please inform on the project talk page -- TinucherianBot (talk) 20:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 18:44, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coccinia grandis → Ivy gourd – As per WP:COMMON NAME ( eg: Guinea pig (not Cavia porcellus)). 'Ivy gourd' is the common popular name. http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=COGR9
http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bin/weedident.cgi?tpl=plant.tpl&ibra=all&card=V25
http://www.medicinenet.com/ivy_gourd/supplements-vitamins.htm
http://www.ehow.co.uk/list_7849706_ivy-gourd-seeds.html

Anish Viswa 03:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:FLORA. The most commonly used name in reliable sources is Coccinia grandis (more hits in a Google Book and Scholar search than "ivy gourd"). Rkitko ^(talk) 22:26, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. My understanding of Common Name is the name used by common man to refer to something and common man mostly use 'Ivy Gourd' and not the botanical name. Common man do not know the Scientific names. Also, this is a common vegetable and hence the common name is popular.
Anish Viswa 01:08, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a common misconception. It specifically states, "...it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." In this case, that's the scientific name. In other cases, that's the vernacular name. (When we say "common name" in reference to names plants and animals are known by, we means it's a name used in the vernacular, not that it's the most commonly used name.) Rkitko ^(talk) 01:36, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Maybe support (combined with some changes to the taxobox about which species are covered) but needs more investigation.~~ The first google scholar hit for "ivy gourd" glosses ivy gourd as "Coccinia grandis Voigt, Coccinia cordifolia, Coccinia indica". Other hits in the top screen or two point to Coccinia indica, Coccinia grandix (a typo/error?), Coccinia cordifolia or Coccinia grandis. In other words, it may be analogous to the "rice" example in WP:FLORA. Kingdon (talk) 23:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdon, as far as I can tell, all of the information in this article is about this particular species, not "ivy gourd" as a common name. If multiple species are called ivy gourd, then that bolsters the argument to keep the article titled at the scientific name. An article on ivy gourd should not have a taxobox because the species you mentioned do not seem to form a natural taxon, much like rice does not have a taxobox. What I would prefer to see is a disambiguation page if these names are real species. From a few searches I've done, C. cordifolia and C. indica appear to be considered synonyms of C. grandis. Rkitko ^(talk) 15:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All three are indeed synonyms according to GRIN. Kingdon (talk) 01:34, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

"Rashmati"

If "rashmati" is another word for the fruit, could the word be introduced at top where all the names are given? If not, at least maybe specify what language/culture this word is from. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 01:19, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For which fruit. Is it name of Ivy Guord. Alshaikhan (talk) 15:09, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Coccinia grandis. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20110310150635/http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/new/Coccinia.html to http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/new/Coccinia.html#grandis

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 03:47, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Coccinia grandis. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added {{dead link}} tag to http://agrss.sherman.hawaii.edu/onfarm/veg/veg00006.html
Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20030505231302/http://www.ad.bham.ac.uk:80/ggy/food/show_item.asp?itemID=61 to http://www.ad.bham.ac.uk/ggy/food/show_item.asp?itemID=61

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:52, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Coccinia grandis. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060111080830/http://www.crees.org/weeds/scarlet-gourd.htm to http://www.crees.org/weeds/scarlet-gourd.htm
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.ad.bham.ac.uk/ggy/food/show_item.asp?itemID=61

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:16, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest moving information from 'Geographic Spread' to introductory paragraph + Add to Bushfood page + Add to Bush Tucker page query

Most of the plant/tree pages I've been reading have the information on where the plant/tree is native and its distribution, including if it's recognised as an invasive species, in the introductory paragraph.

May I suggest for consistency that this information from the 'Geographic Spread' section be moved to the introductory paragraph.

Is this a "bushfood?" If so, may I suggest adding a link at the bottom of the page to the "Bushfood" page, and add the plant to the "Bushfood" page.

I note that it says, "Its native range extends from Africa to Asia... and the Northern Territories, Australia." Do we have evidence that it's a "Bush tucker" plant? If so, may I suggest adding a note under "See Also" that it's a bush tucker plant, add a link to the "Bush Tucker" page, and then add the plant to the "Bush Tucker" page.

Tzali (talk) 17:47, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]