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Trivia Section, Removed from main article[edit]

  • Ortiz has a son from his marriage to his ex-wife, Kristen. Ortiz is now dating former adult film actress, Jenna Jameson.[1] Jenna is allegedly pregnant with his child.[2]
  • Tito is the youngest of Sam and Joyce Ortiz's four sons.[3]
  • Oscar De La Hoya sold his California retreat and training facility to Ortiz for $2.1 million.[4]
  • Tito's father is Mexican American and his mother is American. He often enters the octagon carrying both Mexican and American flags. [7]
  • Tito wrote a book called "THIS IS GONNA HURT-The Life of a Mixed Martial Arts champion".[8]
  • Ortiz was in the movie Cradle 2 The Grave as a cage fighter, along with Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture.
  • At the UFC 73 press conference his opponent, Rashad Evans, referred to him as Jacob (Ortiz's given name) instead of Tito.
  • Ortiz trains at his training facility in Big Bear City, California which is located in the mountains where the elevation is high. This provides more difficult breathing conditions which contributes to Ortiz's cardiovascular training.
  • Tito Ortiz sponsors Piedmont Hills High School's wrestling team. The head coach Matt Corona wrestled with Tito in college. Check titoortiz.com
  • Appeared in a episode of NUMB3RS called "Contenders" as a MMA champion.

Falcomadol (talk) 23:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

References[edit]

Sources[edit]

The article is laking on sources. Someone that could pay attention to that could really help. I could get some myself but it is better if any regular editor to this article takes notice.--Wikikidboy 11:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Please help :-) I've noticed the lack of references in this any many MMA related articles. WP:BLP pretty much demands that we find references or delete material. I'd help here too, but just haven't gotten to it just yet. (By the way, you should start new discussions at the bottom of any discussion page, not the top.) See you around. Sancho 13:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Racist, anyone?[edit]

Tell me if I'm mistaken, but the way this is worded:

"Born to an American mother and a Mexican father, he spent many nights in juvenile detention facilities as a kid."

It sounds to me like this sentence points to his heritage as the reason for his wrongdoing. Anyone else see what I'm talking about? Tysis 21:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


Its only racist if you feel that one man's nationtally has no meaning

I dont get that impression


... umm how is that racist in any way. It states a fact then usses a comma and states a fact. I didn't see any racial hate words in there or anything like that... did you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.0.255 (talk) 08:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

the sentence makes it sound like the reason he spent time in juvie was because of his heritage. it's poorly worded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.143.189 (talk) 23:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

It's not racists, its just that the person who wrote it has a poor sense of grammar. 68.79.171.54 (talk) 01:12, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't necessarily sound racist but it does imply the two issues are related otherwise why string them together in the same sentence? It's poorly worded and if possible should be corrected. 70.254.34.0 (talk) 07:09, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Request an edit[edit]

{{editprotected}} Please delete the sentence: "Born to an American mother and a Mexican father, he spent many nights in juvenile detention facilities as a child." and replace it with "He was born to an American mother and a Mexican father".

Please delete the sentence: "It was during this time that Tito claims to have been a member of a street gang though no records of any such activity exist."

Please replace the paragraph: "His mixed martial arts debut was at UFC 13 in 1997. Still in college, Ortiz competed as an amateur for no prize money or contracts. He beat Wes Albittron on the tournament's first round by referee stoppage due to a barrage of punches, but lost in the next round to Guy Mezger in a bout that he was dominating early on. The Mezger match showed the potential Ortiz had for dominating his opponents with control and hard, sharp elbows (ground and pound)." with: "His mixed martial arts debut was at UFC 13 in 1997. He beat Wes Albittron on the tournament's first round by referee stoppage due to strikes, but lost in the next round to Guy Mezger."

Please replace the paragraph: "After returning with TKO victories over Jeremy Screeton at West Coast NHB Championships 1, and Jerry Bohlander at UFC 18, Ortiz dominated a rematch with Mezger at UFC 19. This time, the much smaller Mezger was out-wrestled, with Ortiz winning by TKO due to strikes. After winning the fight, Ortiz donned a t-shirt that read "Gay Mezger Is My Bitch" and gave the assembled Lion's Den, with whom Mezger trained, the finger (both fingers). Thus began both his rivalry with Ken Shamrock and the Lion's Den, as well as his custom of wearing t-shirts that belittled his opponent after victories." with: "After returning with TKO victories over Jeremy Screeton at West Coast NHB Championships 1, and Jerry Bohlander at UFC 18, Ortiz defeated a Mezger at UFC 19 by TKO due to strikes. After winning the fight, Ortiz donned a t-shirt that read "Gay Mezger Is My Bitch" and gave the assembled Lion's Den, with whom Mezger trained, the finger (both fingers)."

Please delete the phrase: "who had held a grudge with Ortiz since the Mezger incident."

Please replace: "An exasperated UFC management created an Interim Light Heavyweight Title to coax Ortiz to a fight." with "UFC management created an Interim Light Heavyweight Title".

Please replace: "He finally agreed to fight the new Interim Light Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture, who had defeated Liddell for the interim title, at UFC 43 in September 2003." with "He agreed to fight the new Interim Light Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture, who had defeated Liddell for the interim title, at UFC 43 in September 2003."

Please replace: "After six months off, Ortiz returned and took a unanimous decision victory over newcomer Patrick Cote at UFC 50, and a controversial split decision over Vitor Belfort at UFC 51." with: "After six months off, Ortiz returned and took a unanimous decision victory over newcomer Patrick Cote at UFC 50, and a split decision over Vitor Belfort at UFC 51."

Please replace: "In February 2005, contract issues left Ortiz on bad terms with the UFC and its president Dana White, (who was also Ortiz' former business manager)." with: "In February 2005 Tito Ortiz began time away from the UFC."

Sancho 23:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I noticed on my watchlist you are working to figure out why the page is protected. I don't think it would be appropriate for an uninvolved admin to make significant changes such as these. Hopefully Yamla will be around to explain what the situation is. CMummert · talk 13:02, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The summary is that this article is being targeted by Verdict (talk · contribs) who has long been banned by community consensus. As such, it is quite reasonable to make edits requested by anyone who is definitely not Verdict (talk · contribs) or one of his more than one hundred sockpuppets. --Yamla 14:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Yamla has explained the situation to me. Sancho 15:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Yamla: I assume that Sancho is not one of these 100 sockpuppets - could you confirm that? I have no reason to distrust Sancho in the least, but I have no familiarity with this article, or with Verdict, so it is not trivial to decide based just on an editprotected tag whether to make the edit or not. CMummert · talk 20:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Sancho does not appear to be. Actually, he seems to be one of the first people requesting an unblock on a wrestling article in the past six weeks who was not. The other twenty or thirty were. --Yamla 20:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

The page says Tito Ortiz will be fighting Rashad Evans at UFC 72, when in acuality, he will be fighting him at UFC 73.

Request an edit 2[edit]

add the paragraph about tito and dana fight which never happend, should read simliar to the way it does on white's wiki page

"White was scheduled to make his professional boxing debut against his former client Tito Ortiz on March 24, 2007. In Ortiz's re-signing with the UFC in 2005, he added a stipulation that he and White would fight in a three-round boxing exhibition, ostensibly "to work out their differences."[3] The Nevada State Athletic Commission did not believe this would be an "exhibition" match, and White, in addition to training, had to apply for a fighting licence, which was granted for this one fight. However, Ortiz did not appear at the weigh-in and the fight never occurred. Ortiz called White beforehand, leaving him a message saying he was "letting him off the hook," but White assumed Tito was trying to get him to stop training only to later say he wanted to fight, and did not interpret this to mean Ortiz was actually canceling the match. The members of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, several of whom had reservations about sanctioning the match to begin with, were not pleased with Ortiz' backing out of the fight. The NSAC told White they would never again consider allowing the contest, and that furthermore, they did not want White and Ortiz to fight anywhere out of their purview.[4]"

Request an edit 3[edit]

Ortiz is returning at UFC 73, not UFC 72 as this article currently states.

I made the change. VegaDark (talk) 01:40, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Team Punishment[edit]

Anybody think that his camp should have a page just like the Miletich camp or the Chute Box camp?(MgTurtle 02:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)).


Autobiography[edit]

It has been reported on some sites that Tito is currently writing his autobiography and it may be released in May of 2008.Should this be mentioned in the article or should it wait till the book comes out?(MgTurtle 05:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)).

Ortiz's Ancestry[edit]

I'm no race conspiracy theorist but is it just me or does ortiz look like a black (possibly mixed) guy who died his hair blond? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.27.30 (talk) 02:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


Nope. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.0.255 (talk) 12:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Rumors[edit]

5 de Mayo Rumors say that he will be fighting by May 5th in Mexico along with Roger Huerta --Vik.sanchez (talk) 16:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Other TV and Film Appearances[edit]

Other TV and Film Appearances should be consolidated into one topic relating to acting and cameos. Also, Tito is in the recently released movie "Zombie Strippers" [3] with his girlfriend Jenna Jameson. JoshuaGodinez (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


T-shirts[edit]

This entire section as well as the section on entrance music is pointless trivia and should be removed entirely. (I tried to but was reverted.) 193.11.234.68 (talk) 18:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Do we really need to elongate the t-shirt box by adding the fact that he lost in there?I just think it's stupid if he didn't wear a shirt.(MgTurtle (talk) 18:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC))

Yes it needs to be there because when losing he alters what he was going to wear. I am currently trying to find his old matches to watch to see what he wore in UFC 13, 44, and 47 which is why the slogan isn't there yet.Swampfire (talk) 21:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

But if he didn't wear a t-shirt, should it be in the box?(MgTurtle (talk) 01:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC))

You're not making sense, everyone that is filled in he wore a shirt. There are 4 blank ones because we are still trying to find what he wore. Swampfire (talk) 01:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
He didn't wear a shirt after neither Albritton nor Mezger (UFC 13). Just checked. --aktsu (t / c) 02:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I had a feeling he might not of worn a shirt in UFC 13 for either fight because it was his first fights. He started in UFC 13 as an alternate. So since it was his first ones I didn't think he would of did it then. I'm pretty sure for both 44 and 47 he had other bragging shirts ready, But since he lost, he either didnt wear one, or put on just a regular shirt. Swampfire (talk) 02:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
No shirt/slogan after vs Couture at UFC 44 either. BTW, apparently he have listed all his t-shirt-slogans in his book ("This is gonna hurt") if anyone is interested in looking it up... --aktsu (t / c) 03:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I think the statement he made after 44 was instead of puuting on the shirt he had made if he won. was to put the title around Coutures waist himself. Also almost all of his shirts are for sale on his website.Swampfire (talk) 03:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay I didn't see what you meant.Sorry.You still don't have to be rude.(MgTurtle (talk) 02:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC))

I wasn't being rude. I did not understand what you were saying. Because you said if he wasn't wearing a shirt should it be in the box. To which I pointed out there wasn't a box saying he wasn't wearing a shirt. Swampfire (talk) 02:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

No what i meant was if there was a fight where he did not wear a shirt, should that be mentioned in the box or not.Because if the box is for his shirts and he didn't wear a shirt, it doesn't need to be in the box.Maybe the sentenced before the box can say when he started wearing the shirts regularly or something.(MgTurtle (talk) 13:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)).

If he didn't wear a shirt I don't see why it should be listed. I'll remove the fights where we know he didn't wear one now.--aktsu (t / c) 21:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Added a T-shirt that Ortiz wore during the weigh-ins to his fight with Machida. Wasn't sure how to add it, so I added it underneath the box as more of a side note. Wingedregent (talk) 00:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

What is wrong with you people? A complete list of what goddamn shirts somebody wore does not belong in an encyclopedia. Neither does a complete listing of entrance music (which is conspicously absent from pretty much every other fighter's page). This, if anything, if what should be said on wikipedia about Tito Ortiz's shirts: "Tito is known for wearing T-shirts with provocative messages" and then maybe an example or two. 84.216.56.19 (talk) 14:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree and have removed them now. --aktsu (t / c) 14:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Citation 9[edit]

It looks mesed up.Can someone fix it?I just don't want to mess it up further than it already is.(MgTurtle (talk) 20:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC))

Done, I just removed it as it was supposed to be a link to an article mentioning his "upcoming" fight with Lyoto, a fight we already know happend - and is mentioned in what was citation 10 (now 9). --aktsu (t / c) 21:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Criticism?[edit]

Tito should have a section titled "Criticism" in which any criticism of him could be listed. Then if people have criticism they want listed and have properly referenced they can list it there. You cannot tell me that people don't have criticisms of him. Somebody was just posting on here about how Tito's page is one of the most vandalized pages they have ever seen. Maybe if people could list some criticisms of him then his page wouldn't get vandalized so much. Just think about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.0.255 (talk) 07:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Title Defense Against Evan Tanner[edit]

Does it matter that Evan was Knocked out by Tito's forehead smashing into his left temple constituting an obvous headbutt. Shouldn't that be considered illegal or is it not illegal because it was clearly not on purpose? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.0.255 (talk) 05:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Nationality[edit]

His nationality should not be listed as "Mexican American". Nationality does not refer to heritage nor that he wears both a Mexican and American flag into the ring, it refers to the country one is currently residing in. He cannot be 2 different nationalities, hes either mexican or american. Regardless of where he was born, he lives in the U.S. therefore you should stop changing it to "Mexican American".

Santa Ana is not in Mexico. Perhaps we can add him to the Canadian Portal as well. --Hutcher (talk) 04:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

The reach conversion on wiki is wrong[edit]

74 in is about 1.88 M, 75 in is about 1.90 1/2 M and 77 in is about 1.95 1/2 M. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.219.166.18 (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Forrest Griffin. --aktsu (t / c) 19:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Myspace really?[edit]

I'm trying to access the "source" that verifies that he and jenna jameson met on myspace but it's a dead link. Soo...where do we go from here? Delete the entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LaRouxEMP (talkcontribs) 06:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Domestic Violence[edit]

Tito Ortiz was reportedly arrested today for domestic violence. This is being claimed by TMZ, http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/26/tito-ortiz-arrested-for-domestic-violence-jeanna-jameson/. We should wait for a secondary source, that is more reliable than TMZ, until it gets put into the article. BrendanFrye (talk) 19:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Sherdog is valid enough as a source, see link [4] AcePuppy (talk) 19:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Eh, they are just reporting what TMZ previously reported. We need a reliable source for a BLP article. Remember Kimo? That was TMZs doing. BrendanFrye (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
From BLP policy: "Remove immediately any contentious material about a living person that is unsourced or poorly sourced; that is a conjectural interpretation of a source (see No original research); that relies on self-published sources, unless written by the subject of the BLP (see below); or that relies on sources that fail in some other way to comply with Verifiability. The three-revert rule does not apply to such removals. Editors who find themselves in edit wars over potentially defamatory material about living persons should bring the matter to the BLP noticeboard." BrendanFrye (talk) 20:04, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


Request for Edit 4[edit]

The article states he has the record for most championship defenses, but Anderson Silva owns the record for 6. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanindustries (talkcontribs) 18:37, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

UFC 132[edit]

The "Mixed Martial Arts Record" section at the end of the article shows that Tito Ortiz has already lost a fight in UFC 132 which hasn't even happened yet. This is likely vandalism. I can tell mostly because it says he lost because he "pussed out". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.235.116 (talk) 07:29, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

After UFC 132 his record was shown as 17-8-1 but on wikipedia it is still 16-8-1... I found a websit called MMA Universe and it shows Tito's missing fight... Can some one edit the page to show his missing fight? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomSpartan218 (talkcontribs) 20:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Project MMA uses Sherdog for records, thus there is sometimes a discrepancy between what the UFC reports and what wikipedia reflects.--Phospheros (talk) 22:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Tito & Korn[edit]

Tito Ortiz also appeared in the Korn video for "Got the life". He can be seen at the party near the end of the clip with all the band members. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.150.251.46 (talk) 00:18, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 December 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} American Mixed Martial artist, Tito Ortiz, changed his nickname to "The Peoples Champ".

Twoney (talk) 05:15, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

No reference  Chzz  ►  07:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done

Edit request on 7 December 2011[edit]

I wish to add the nickname of "The People's Champion"

WarHendo6892 (talk) 05:08, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Not done No reliable source that states this as his nickname. Need multiple sources. KING GRIM LOL YO WHATS UP (talk) 05:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

UFC 13 / Amateur Fight.[edit]

While watching UFC 13, one of the announcers mentioned that Tito Ortiz was not being paid for his two fights that night and that he was doing it just for experience. So, should his two fights from UFC 13 not be listed under "Professional MMA Fights"? I do not know how he could fight for a tournament title (the lightweight title) while being an amateur, but maybe rules were different back then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.87.142.131 (talk) 19:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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