Talk:William Adelin
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Aetheling[edit]
Wouldn't "Aetheling" actually be either "Son of a Noble" or "Little Noble"? Ameise -- chat 09:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Recent move[edit]
I am not definitely against this recent move, but it is potentiall controversial and it seems to have been taken without discussion. Why? PatGallacher (talk) 13:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I've never before seen him called Adelin rather than A[e]theling. —Tamfang (talk) 08:33, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I am still wondering about this. Why would an English Prince of French and Scottish blood have his article titled with a Germanic word? I cannot imagine that anyone would search for this person under "William Adelin," nor can I find any contemporary or historic references to him under this name. But maybe I am just uninformed and someone can point me to them. IMO this article should be moved back to William Aetheling. Can we have discussion on this? History Lunatic (talk) 21:03, 7 December 2018 (UTC)History Lunatic
Illegitimate children cannot succeed[edit]
Henry had an "abundance of ...illegitimate children, .... but for various reasons none were chosen". Of course not. Illegitimate children cannot succeed.203.80.61.102 (talk) 21:20, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
William the Conqueror was the illegitimate son of Robert I, Duke of Normandy, but he was able to succeed his father. Dimadick (talk) 10:33, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, they put up with all those meddlesome priests, so they could work miracles when matters of state so required.
--JerzyA (talk) 06:56, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Marriage[edit]
There is no mention of marriage, and only a passing reference to a wife. This should be rectified.203.80.61.102 (talk) 21:21, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Ancestry[edit]
I suggest this variant ancestry of him:
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Dmitry Azikov (talk) 10:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- The important bits of the ancestry are already in the article - who his father was. The rest of it isn't useful to understanding the life of William Adelin. Again - I point to WP:NOTGENEALOGY. We are not a genealogical work and should not present such information when biographies of the subject do not do so. And again, many of these works are not very reliable - Weis and Burke are not good sources for this information. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- So I don't plan now to add it to article, it is my an alternative variant which can be seen here in talk page, yes I can also take a good source from there Dmitry Azikov (talk) 14:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- The important bits of the ancestry are already in the article - who his father was. The rest of it isn't useful to understanding the life of William Adelin. Again - I point to WP:NOTGENEALOGY. We are not a genealogical work and should not present such information when biographies of the subject do not do so. And again, many of these works are not very reliable - Weis and Burke are not good sources for this information. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- ^ a b Chibnall 1991, p. ix
- ^ a b c d e f g A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage and Companionage, pp 26, 32
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<ref2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
- ^ Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 118, 123, 157, 161–162
- ^ A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage and Companionage, pp 26, 32
- ^ a b c d Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 118, 123 Cite error: The named reference "<ref3" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
- ^ a b c d e f g h Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161 Cite error: The named reference "<ref4" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
- ^ a b c d e f g h Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162 Cite error: The named reference "<ref5" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
- ^ a b c d Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 157 Cite error: The named reference "<ref7" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
- ^ a b c Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 118
- ^ a b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 105, 109, 142
- ^ a b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 2
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