Talk:Xylitol/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Carefree Koolerz

I bought two packs of Carefree Koolerz after reading the part of this article that says that it's sweetened exclusively by Xylitol, but then later I read the packaging and while Xylitol is listed as the main ingredient, there are artificial sweeteners like aspartame listed as sweeteners too. I through out my two packs immediately afterwards (I think one of them was stale anyways, and the flavor didn't last very long). So I have yet to find a sugarfree gum in the U.S. that doesn't use aspartame or any other artificial sweetener. Orbit Complete seems to be a U.K. brand? It'd be nice if that was mentioned in the article too. 16:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Quite silly of you since there are no proof that aspartam is dangerous in moderate doses. 130.243.153.103 16:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

XYLIMAX gum and mints are sweetened only with xylitol. No artificial colors, or sweeteners. Made in Finland, and available in US. Mints have 1 gramm of xylitol per piece, and gums have 1 gramm of xylitol per piece. Some flavors of XYLIMAX gums have added calcium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.221.137 (talk) 14:35, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Food energy %age

I just thought I would point out that in the first paragraph it says "40% less food energy" but in the fourth paragraph it says 50% less. (I have no idea which is correct however). - CharlesC 17:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Extraction of Xylitol

I removed the following added by an IP user

The use of this sugar alcohol has a long tradition in the oral and familial transmissions of a very diverse range of peoples stretching from Northern Scandinavia and Finland to the other side of the planet, across all Northern Siberia to Kamchatskaja and beyond. Usually a sweet water is made still today according to traditional methods of extracting birch tree sap. The beverage is said be very excellent for health and is a real delicacy.

I think that it belongs in a History subheading but needs verifiable sourcing prior to adding - it claims are quite broad benjicharlton (talk) 11:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Translation

Moved from article, translation pending:

Xylitol er et sødemiddel smagende hvidt næsten lugtfrit krystallinskpulver, bruges som erstatning for sukker.

Let opløseligt i vand, meget tungt opløseligt i ethanol.

Chemical name	D-xylitol
Einecs-number	201-788-0
E-number	E 967
Kemisk formel	C₅H₁₂O₅
Relative molecule mass	152,15
Smeltepunktsinterval	92-96 ºC

Kosebamse 11:58 19 May 2003 (UTC)

I know a little Norwegian/Danish based on my studies in Swedish and so I can provide a translation.

Xylitol is a sweetener-tasting, white, almost odourless crystal powder, used as a substitue for sugar.

Easily soluble in water, very difficultly soluble in ethanol.

Chemical name: D-xylitol

Einecs-number: 201-788-0

E-number: E 967

Chemical formula: C₅H₁₂O₅

Relative molecular mass: 152.15

Melting point interval: 92-96 ºC

11:23, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Not an Artificial Sweetner

Since xylitol is found in very many natural foods, it is technically not an "artificial" sweetener. It is often correctly called an "alternative sweetener" however. I will make this change, so post any good objections here. Carltonh 23:04, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

xylitol isn't even artificial, it's a naturally occurring substance. Markthemac (talk) 22:36, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

US use

If this Xylitol is so great, why isn't it more popular in the US?

Because it's expensive. However, they're looking at producing it cheaply from corn cobs, so I hear. (Daily Mail) And it is now on sale in powder form, so who knows.

This is a lovely little article; I love the way the links are done at the bottom. My only point of contention is "However, this same effect also interferes with the yeast micro-organism and others, so xylitol is inappropriate in making bread, for instance." Sugar added to bread? Is this an American thing, or have I missed something? 57.66.51.165 11:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

-> In order to release the gas that leavens bread, yeast needs something to feed on. Sugars are simply the fastest, most effective food for yeast, and many bread recipes require that you add a bit of sugar to them for this reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrieparker (talk • contribs) 19:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

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---> It's true that American bread is more sweet in taste than say bread from the UK. However, trace amounts of natural sugar will undoubtably be present in all bread. My understanding is that bread in America and other European countries like France like their bread sweet, while not nessecarily having more natural sugar than bread from else where.

Most bread has sugar added as food for the yeast (the yeast respires using the sugar, to produce the carbon dioxide gas that makes the bread rise)

Sugar is also added to rising pastries, it doesn't have to mean table bread.24.165.210.213 20:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Just a point of trivia: Orbit chewing gum uses xylitol as well as sorbitol. When it was first sold in the U.S. (briefly in the 1970s, I remember buying some) I recall it was sweetened almost exclusively with xylitol. =Axlq 01:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Opening paragraph

The second sentence is a bit unclear. What is the most popular source? Corn? China?

I agree - It's VERY unclear 18:20, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I removed it for now and tidied the sentence up a bit. Hopefully whoever added it can add another sentence to the paragraph explaining which is the preferred source. Here is what I removed "and is the most popular source due to its potential renewability, unlike birch trees." Dickgomer 18:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Xylitol metabolism

What is xylitol's exact metabolism in the body? I read somewehere that one of its metabolites is l-glutathione which is apparently the second most potent anti-oxidant produced by the body, also what is the amount produced per xylitol? Maybe someone that is familiar with xylitols metabolsm can add this. --Alma-Tadema 21:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Sugar alcohol? does that imply it acts similar to ethanol? or breaks down into alcohols? or just that it IS an alcohol? I too would like to know the metabolism? --x1987x^(talk) 12:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

You could try reading the article Sugar alcohol... —Keenan Pepper 03:17, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Xylitol cost

Here in South Africa I saw xylitol 500 grams (just over an pound) for about R80 ($12). This is the first time I saw it sold as pure powder, usually you have to buy gums or mints like Smint or Dirol to get xylitol or some health speciality stores(much more expensive). This was in a big pharmacy chain marketed as a slimming sugar subsitute. --Alma-Tadema 21:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Endothermic solution

Xylitol absorbs energy when dissolving, causing a cool taste in the mouth, sorbitol or mannitol also has the same effect. --Alma-Tadema 21:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Candida Impact

Being recently diagnosed as having an intollerance to yeast I am now on a yeast and sugar free diet (as sugar does indeed 'feed' the yeast or unfriendly bacteria in the gut), which is a challenge in this day of processed and plastic food. I am interested on xylitol's impact on yeast and could a person who must avoid yeast and sugar and their derivatives use xylitol without impact and even actually benefit from using xylitol in moderation? 84.66.1.160 12:58, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I read somewhere on the web that xylitol was good for people with a yeast overgrowth candidiasis. The reasoning was that the yeast thinks it's sugar and gobbles it up, and then dies because it can't digest it. I wasn't sure how reliable that information was, so I checked with two respected nutritionists. Patrick Holford agrees that xylitol is same for people on an anti-candida diet (which is not necessarily what you're on) as the yeast cannot mebabolize it. Note, for example, that many xylitol containers will say on that it's not suitable for bread making, as it doesn't feed yeast. (Sometimes, if you want to make bread and haven't got time to let it rise slowly, you can use a little sugar, to help the yeast to work quickly.) However, Erica White, while not denying that xylitol is safe, still does not allow her clients to use it while on an anti-candida diet. He reason is that while it may not feed the yeast inside you, it helps to keep the sweet tooth alive, and it's absolutely essential for the sweet tooth to die if a person is to be able to stay on the anti-candida diet for over a year (which is necessary for most candidiasis sufferers, in her view). Hope that helps. AnnH ♫ 14:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I have to disagree with Erica White on this one. I am a nutrition hobbyist lets say, in that I don't have any degrees in nutrition, but spend several hours per day researching nutrition. Erica is simply ensuring she will have a job, by making people think that thier diet controls them, not that they control thier diet. While it is true that you can condition yourself to not enjoy sweets, why would you when there is a sweetener like Xylitol that is beneficial to the human body? This line of reasoning is like saying I should avoid and ween myself off fish because some fish contain high amounts of mercury. In my experience it is best to slowly introduce xylitol into your system if you are planning on using it as a true sugar replacement. Start with the mints and gums, then move on to adding it to your coffe or tea, afer a few weeks of this, you shouldn't experience any of the laxative effects. Hopefully this takes off in the states, allthough it will likley put big sugar and many dentists out of business, oh well, they will have to adapt I guess. MattB

I would say, quit cold turkey if you physically can. That seems to work with me. Currently weening of Coca-cola and such drinks. Whenever I would take "one single coke to get some energy" I was back on the wagon. --Fat64 (talk) 20:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

40% or 50% less energy?

The introduction claims 40% less food energy while the article itself claims 50%. For reference, the german article claims 50% as well, dunno about other languages. RichiH 19:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Canine Health Effects

The recent news about canine health effects from eating Xylitol brought me to this page. Reuters

I noticed that Intelligentguest had deleted the line "Even the small amount of xylitol found in two or three pieces of Trident gum has been fatal for dogs in many cases." and claimed that it was "completely absurd and falsely credited claim that a couple of pieces of trident gum has killed many dogs!"

According to the news reports, "A 22-pound (10-kg) dog who consumes one gram (0.03 ounces) of Xylitol should be treated." Trident's nutrition information is that each stick of trident contains 1g of Xylitol.

I think that this needs to get back in the article to let pet owners know that if their dog gets into Trident, they should get the pet to a Vet. I've never edited a Wiki article and don't have time to go and figure out all of the rules to add this information. Could someone help?

Thanks!

BigrTex 14:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Until there's a verifiable source saying that a 2- or 3-stick dosage of trident is fatal to dogs, the statement should remain deleted. Without a citation it's nothing more than a violation of WP:OR. And policy violations should be deleted instantly.

Think about it. A dog who tries to eat gum will have more to worry about than xylitol. Any gum is harmful to dogs. Also, dogs won't chew it like humans to extract the flavor; a dog will simply swallow it — which means the xylitol would be bound up inside the gum and not much would get into the dog. =Axlq 15:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I apologize for not being clear. I don't think the original statement should be reinstated.

There are both long-term and short-term effects in dogs. The Wikipedia article only discusses the short-term effects. The long-term effects are now being announced. I do think that there needs to be mention of the long-term effects, and a balanced mention of dosage. I am less confident than before that I could do this in an acceptable way. BigrTex 16:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand your point now. Don't worry about your confidence; if you're uncomfortable editing the article directly, simply propose some text right here on this talk page. People will suggest improvements and eventually we'll have something suitable for the article. That's how Wikipedia is supposed to work. =Axlq 01:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I have tried to edit this section to make it a bit more scientific / factual. The articles referenced discuss that the coagulopathy in these cases is likely secondary to liver failure, so I have removed the statement on coagulopathy in this entry. Without clarification such as is provided in the journal, it is out of context and potentially misleading.

I have also made reference to the dose-dependance in regards to xylitol toxicity in dogs. Xylitol seems to be safe at low doses, hence it is misleading to mention potential disesae and death in dogs without discussing the dose. I agree that it is important to alert people to the potential dangers of xylitol in very high amounts such as in some chewing gums and artificially sweetened products. However, this needs to be kept in context. I hope my clarifications make this more clear. MKDVM2000 03:30:44 , 27 June 2007 (UTC)

What's the deal with the claimed World Health Organization study that showed no ill effects on dogs? The footnote leads to a broken link. A quick internet search didn't turn up anything obvious. Should we delete this claim since it is not documented? Jamie Nicolson (talk) 20:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

IUPAC name

I'm not sure where does this "systematic name" (2,3,4,5)tetrahydroxy-pentanol comes from, but the IUPAC name of xylitol should be "pentane-1,2,3,4,5-pentaol". --Der yck C. 07:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Animal health concerns

We don't seem to be able to agree on if Xylitol is safe or dangerous for animals (other than dogs), so I'm just taking that paragraph out. Once someone comes up with a reference, they can add the correct version back. What I've just removed reads:

It is also safe in mice, rats, horses and rhesus monkeys. It is believed to also be dangerous for cows, goats, rabbits and baboons. The safety in cats and ferrets is unknown. ‹The template Talkfact is being considered for merging.› ^{[citation needed]}

Where the "dangerous" in the second sentence is often replaced by "safe". Come up with a reliable source before you put this back in.

I also modified the paragraph after that to remove the word "however", since it doesn't make sense without the paragraph I removed. -- BillWeiss | Talk 15:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

That paragraph was part of a larger edit by User:AlexanderColeDVM on 5-Jan-7. AlexanderColeDVM added two <ref>s in the edit and kept one, but the one that I can access does not include the specified information. I have asked AlexanderColeDVM to specify which of the references supports the above statement so that it can be readded to the article. I think that the two IPs that changed the text were vandals, but until we have a reference I can't support that belief. ~ Bigr Tex 16:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes it's really confusing when various vandals vandalize each other's "products". --Der yck C. 14:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Wrigley's Gum COI concerns

Ellielancaster appears to be editing solely to promote Wrigley's on Wikipedia. I have reverted her change to the article which removed a reference to a rival gum and replaced with a reference to Wrigley's. -- Siobhan Hansa 13:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Bad reference URL for ASIC xylitol t-shirts

Link actually leads to an article "Danisco supports sclerosis patients in Lithuania" Please fix if you know proper article Fry-kun 18:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Link removed as advertising...need citations here 12:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC) benjicharlton (talk) 12:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Save the Children!

I attempted to verify the following statement from the article, but could find no evidence to support its veracity either on the FDA website or elsewhere.

As a food product it is not subject to drug regulations but xylitol based products have been certified by the American Food and Drug Administration as a suitable remedy for infantile dental caries.

Since the statement appears to be unverifiable, and is quite possibly factually incorrect, I deleted it and replaced it with the weaker, but verifiable, statement:

Xylitol based products are allowed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to make the medical claim that they do not promote dental caries.

If anyone can verify the original statement, please do so, then replace it (with a citation hopefully). -- PHaze 16:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I dont think its true that Xylitol is used in almost all gum in Europe. I cannot find any gum that uses anything but that poison aspertame. Unless those gums have xylitol as well as aspertame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.138.12.194 (talk • contribs)

all gum i buy are all Xylitol, non contain aspertame i haven't ever seen gum without Xylitol. Markthemac 17:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Well "almost" is marginal. Just leave it like this if you cannot come up with a better version. --Der yck C. 09:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

in my experience, it seems the vast majority of gum in europe is indeed clearly marked with "xylitol", although i checked a couple packs today and it looks like they also contain aspartame in a lesser amount —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.39.127.82 (talk) 13:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Why do so many people think that aspartam is dangerous? The only studies I've seen concluded that it could be dangerous IF you ate the sweetning equivalent of sevral kilos of sugar per day. And who does that? Now if you have problem to brake down phenylalanine i can understand but otherwise.... 130.243.153.103 16:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Xylitol is a miracle, don't be afraid

I uses pure Xylitol since 5 years in my dental practice, the year before I tried it by my own . The results : 1. no longer dental caries at all 2. no longer inflammations of the gums 3. great help to people with nearly no saliva , f.i.after radiation 4. replaces the toothbrush over long periods ,works great when you are travelling, working,in hospital, pilot or trucker

What did I do ? Take 3-5 gramms Xylitol ( 1/2 teespoon )into your mouth, let it solve in the saliva, wait 3 minutes, don't spit or swallow before. After 3 minutes or later ,maybe after 10 minutes if you like ,you can spit or swallow. If you take in addition your toothbrush without toothpaste ,your teeth will be clean as never before. Try it, it is no poison ,your own body is producing it . If you like ,let us discuss here. There is much more to say. Xylitol is a great thing to avoid dental karies in the third world ,it is proved by many studies and after my experience is the pure substance much more effective than chewing gums or drops with only 30% or so. You don't need any artificial sweetner, no, the pure xylitol is the king ! Ksylitoli 19:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC) 130.243.153.103 16:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

zero net effective carbohydrates??

This article claims "Xylitol also contains zero net effective carbohydrates"

How can a digestible carbohydrate have 'zero net effective carbohydrates'? What definition of 'zero net effective carbohydrates' is this going by? --Karuna8 20:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I have tagged that statement with citation needed. "Net effective carbohydrates" is synonymous with "effective carbohydrate count" (ECC), an industry term used to indicate that, while a product may contain ingredients that are chemically carbohydrates, the body doesn't utilize them. See this definition for example. Many sugar alcohols (including xylitol) have this property.

The "net effective carbs" designation was an industry response to FDA labelling regulations requiring the content of all carbohydrates quantified, regardless of whether the body responds to them as carbohydrates. (An extreme example would be cellulose, which the body doesn't metabolize at all, yet is required to be listed as a carbohydrate). =Axlq 20:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

But apparently the body does utilize xylitol- the previous sentence says it has 60% the calories of sucrose, so shouldn't 10 grams of xylitol have 6 grams of 'net carbs'? --Karuna8 21:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

even if you could eat 10 grams, i doubt you would gain a single ounce as it causes a well known laxative effect which will turn around 40% of your stomach content into diarrhea. ;) i found out u can neutralize the laxative effect of xylitol by drinking rum/vodka etc (now that is information u can use! (lol) Markthemac (talk) 22:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Product Placement and Other Uses of Xylitol

This article mentions many products by name. It reads like an advertisement in several places. Is this type of information really necessary or appropriate in an encyclopedia article? Is there a Wikipedia policy or guideline applicable to this practice? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PHaze (talk • contribs) 01:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the current other uses - which referred to Yonex and ASICS as making products that supposedly cool you down due to Xylitol embedding....the references where links to internet shops with products for sale.... ie WP:ADS. We need a citation that proves xylitol does indeed work in the manner suggested and I left a broad description behind but I propose deletion unless good references can be found to confirm that xylitol is indeed useful for external body cooling on a continual basis such as a shirt...benjicharlton (talk) 12:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Staph Infections and Xylitol

Does anyone have any information regarding Xylitol preventing Staph?

Here is an article I found, but I wonder if it is truly effective... http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=260553&highlight=keflex

68.202.25.190 15:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

ISOMERS

Does Xylitol have any stereo-isomers ? If so, then how many please.--83.105.33.91 15:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

It is a symmetric molecule and as such contains no enantiomers. It could be said that the two stereogenic centres present are equivalent in which case it may be a meso compound with 4 diastereoisomers which I believe is what is meant by "This achiral species is one of four isomers of 1,2,3,4,5-pentapentanol." (77.97.142.171 (talk) 21:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC))

Naming Xylitol

Xylitol is the sugar alcohol of Xylose. XYLOSE IS "WOOD SUGAR". Thus the article on "Xylitol" is wrong, beginning:

Xylitol, also called wood sugar or birch sugar, is a five-carbon sugar alcohol that is used as a sugar substitute.

This causes confusion when someone cross-references "wood sugar", especially when toxic effects of xylitol are under consideration.

Thus I would recommend this article be changed to read:

Xylitol is the five-carbon sugar alcohol of xylose (Xylose is also called "wood sugar" or "birch sugar"), that is used as a sugar substitute.

Then a hyperlink to the "xylose" article will begin to clear things up.Woodwardgj 17:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Never ingest this stuff if you have IBS. It brings it about quickly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.249.57.128 (talk) 19:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

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New section necessary? Permissible for Muslims

I suppose it's okay for this section to be included in the Sugar_alcohols article. But is it absolutely necessary for this to be in all of the edible sugar alcohol article pages?

Personally, I don't see that it really needs to be mentioned even in Sugar_alcohols, especially since this isn't a prohibition, but the opposite. Also becuase this is something that intuition should really be able to suggest. (eg. Even I know that sugar alcohols do not have any of the side effects of ordinary alcohol, which is the real purpose of the prohibition of that substance.) 76.112.8.174 (talk) 23:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

English Pronunciation

is it Zylitol or Ksylitol? or Chylitol? OsamaBinLogin (talk) 18:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

In English it is pronounced ZYE-litol (where ZYE sounds like EYE but with a Z instead of an E). -Novaprospekt (talk) 22:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Xylitol versus other sugar alcohols in GI irritation

The last sentence of the opening paragraph claims that Xylitol isn't nearly as disruptive to gastro-intestinal functioning (i.e. bloating, gas, diarrhea) as Sorbitol and other sugar alcohols but doesn't provide a source to prove that claim. I added a "citation needed" tag to the end of this sentence because I think it sounds like someone's opinion without a direct source. -Novaprospekt (talk) 22:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Xylitol's Origin

In the 'Production of Xylitol' section someone had written,

"Xylitol was first derived from birch trees in Finland in the late 19th century".

The reference (http://xlear.com/xylitol-faq.aspx#4) they sited indicated in fact that Xylitol had been "discovered almost simultaneously by German and French chemists in the late 19th century". I altered the article to reflect this, but if anybody has additional referenced information on its discovery that would be beneficial.

I also altered the 'Dietary use worldwide' section, which had presumably been edited by the same user as the aforementioned section, because it focused specifically on Xylitol in Finland,

"Xylitol is widely used in Finland, its "home country." Many Finnish confectioneries employ xylitol, or have a xylitol version available. Virtually all chewing gum sold in Finland is sweetened with xylitol."

disregarding the information in their sited reference (http://web.archive.org/web/20080411105055/http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=43050) which in fact explains its applications in worldwide terms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.54.123 (talk) 04:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Contentous study

It appears (based on edit summaries and other talk page discussion) that the following passage:

Researchers directed mothers to have their children chew xylitol gum from the time the children were 3 months old until they were 2 years old. The researchers found the children of the mothers in the xylitol group had "a 70% reduction in cavities (dmf)" when they reached 5 years of age.<ref name="aapd"/>

is misunderstood and perhaps mis-stated by one or more folks, perhaps including me. I'm moving it to here for clarification. Let's get consensus here before moving it back into the article. Toddst1 (talk) 21:59, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

The article cited here seems quite clear. It says "Prolonged use of xylitol appears to select for a “xylitol- resistant” mutant of the MS cells.24 These mutants appear to shed more easily into saliva than the parent strains,23 resulting in a reduction of MS in plaque26 and possibly hampering their transmission/colonization from mother to child. Long-lasting effects have been demonstrated up to 5 years after 2 years of using xylitol chewing gum.27-28 Use of xylitol gum by mothers (2-3 times per day starting 3 months after delivery and until the child was 2 years old) reduced the MS levels in children up to 6 years of age and was significantly better than ...". Nadiatalent (talk) 22:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

General Xylitol Information

Hello, I am a student in the United States and I am doing a science fair project on the affects of xylitol on streptococcus mutans. I am having some trouble finding general backround information and also I am having trouble finding people that I can talk to about this and researchers that already understand what is going on. please contact me at <email removed> if you can help. Your time is greatly appreciated! I am also having trouble finding sites in English... please send me suggestions. Thank you

Jackie

Missing Link to Justify Research Claim

This sentence doesn't have any reference in the article: 'Recent research confirms a plaque-reducing effect and suggests that the compound, having some chemical properties similar to sucrose, attracts and then "starves" harmful micro-organisms, allowing the mouth to remineralize damaged teeth with less interruption.'

Maybe it was written upon the assumption that Xylitol being implemented in chewing gum with the onus that it makes teeth healthier was the reason. If someone uses it as a promotional tool, surely it must have been proven. No?

The reference is now included.

mechanism

look at the german wikipedia. There the mechanism is a bit described. It should be described here as well --92.203.3.132 (talk) 13:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

also have a look at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC214702/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.203.3.132 (talk) 13:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it a natural product?

The article was not clear to me on the subject.

The article states that xylitol is naturally occurring. However, in the _production_ section, we have _Xylitol is produced by hydrogenation of xylose, which converts the sugar (an aldehyde) into a primary alcohol_.

So is it naturally occurring, but actually produced by synthesizing? And if so, is it a "natural product"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.207.126 (talk) 11:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

As far as I understand, you are correct that it is naturally occurring but can also be produced by synthesizing. This, I believe, is fairly common, as you can get synthesized forms of many other naturally occurring compounds.

As for it is a "natural product", I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Is there a chemical difference between naturally occurring xyletol and synthesized xyletol? Well, no, because if it were different chemically, it would no longer be xyletol, but something else. Is there a difference between what trace impurities are mixed in with the purified xyletol? Probably. Is this difference significant? I don't know. What precisely do you mean by "natural product"? ~Adjwilley (talk) 18:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

The difference is significant to some people. Some people believe that synthesized vitamin C is not as good as extracts from fruit. But anyway, I feel answered. BTW is it xylitol or xyletol? my spell checker doesn't know either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.207.126 (talk) 08:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

It's 'xylitol'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbrdh (talk • contribs) 21:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Section 4.4 on Ear and upper respiratory infections appears to be or include a viral marketing campaign by XClear, a xylitol based product for treating these types of infections. A quick google search reveals that someone has been posting the same information on several different internet sites, and at least one of the sources links back to a seller of the same type of product. The Best Treatments citation cannot be verified by me as I am in the US, and it can't be accessed with out a subscription.

I'm not sure how to flag this section as a new user.

--User:Kimmy_on_LJ 17:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Is it a natural product?

The article was not clear to me on the subject.

The article states that xylitol is naturally occurring. However, in the _production_ section, we have _Xylitol is produced by hydrogenation of xylose, which converts the sugar (an aldehyde) into a primary alcohol_.

So is it naturally occurring, but actually produced by synthesizing? And if so, is it a "natural product"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.207.126 (talk) 11:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

As far as I understand, you are correct that it is naturally occurring but can also be produced by synthesizing. This, I believe, is fairly common, as you can get synthesized forms of many other naturally occurring compounds.

As for it is a "natural product", I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Is there a chemical difference between naturally occurring xyletol and synthesized xyletol? Well, no, because if it were different chemically, it would no longer be xyletol, but something else. Is there a difference between what trace impurities are mixed in with the purified xyletol? Probably. Is this difference significant? I don't know. What precisely do you mean by "natural product"? ~Adjwilley (talk) 18:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

The difference is significant to some people. Some people believe that synthesized vitamin C is not as good as extracts from fruit. But anyway, I feel answered. BTW is it xylitol or xyletol? my spell checker doesn't know either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.207.126 (talk) 08:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

It's 'xylitol'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbrdh (talk • contribs) 21:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

discussion of harmful doses

The article cites very low doses as being harmful in dogs (<1g/kg) yet cites daily doses as high as 430g as causing no ill effects in humans (about 6g/kg for an average adult). I suspect someone got a decimal place in the wrong spot (rather than dogs being somehow much more susceptible).

Reply: The difference between the canine and human species effects the way that either metabolize any substance. Dogs should not be given chocolate or onions also. We people are not so affected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.50.163.187 (talk) 11:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

List of products with Xylitol (partial)

The following is a list of products that contain xylitol: Sourced from http://www.merrickvet.com/70723/6303.html

Orbit gum, Trident gum, Stride gum, Ice Breakers gum, Altoids, Biotene Mouthwash, Breath Rx, TheraBreath toothpaste & mouthwash, Tom's of Maine products, Mint Asure, FreshBreath capsules, Smint "xylicare" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.50.163.187 (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced claim

"Unlike other natural or synthetic sweeteners, xylitol is actively beneficial for dental health by reducing caries to a third in regular use and helpful to remineralization" - This statement goes much further than what sources actually say. 83.7.147.9 (talk) 18:57, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Why hasn't this been addressed? 13 August 2015

So, why hasn't it replaced sugar?

I'll presume all the stated benefits are true, but if it was the whole story, then the world would have abandoned sugar long ago. I'm guess there's information missing.

Per gram, is it much more expensive than sugar? (but, with all its benefits, the cost difference would have be huge to explain the lack of Xylitol-based sweets and confectionery)
Does it not taste as nice?
Does it give people wind? (The article mentions diarrhoea, but there must be intermediary effects between having diarrhoea and having no side effects)
Can it not be used in baking or other types of cooking? (this wouldn't explain why it isn't used in non-cooked or low-heat products)

Really, with so many benefits, and with the increase in research on the harms of sugar and obesity, I'm guess all four of those things are true, but even those four together isn't enough to explain why Xylitol isn't much, much, much more present.

Can anyone help make this article make sense? Gronky (talk) 16:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

At least for me, when I eat a lot of sugar I get a good feeling right afterwards, but I don't get that feeling from xylitol. --91.157.126.247 (talk) 15:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

"Bio-film buster"

xylitol is being used by many in the alternative health field as a bacterial "bio-film buster".

107.36.78.18 (talk) 02:54, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

You have a reference for that? Bwtranch (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Sugar Conformation

I think there is a serious need to introduce pictures of the furanose and pyranose forms of Xylitol and other carbohydrates on wikipedia. The current chemical structure is the open chain form which is not the major form and misinforms readers or non-experts on the subject.

A good example would be the page on glucose with a good discussion on the different anomers as well as concomitant pictures. Does anyone have any advice for me before I go ahead and make changes?

Yogiholt (talk) 05:22, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Are you talking about the 1,4-anhydro-D-xylitol form?

isotope32 (talk) 09:21, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Is it Safe For People With Sorbitol Intolerances?

I can't find any paywall-free articles on Pubmed, and can't use Google Scholar due to bugs.108.48.94.155 (talk) 20:30, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Xylitol actually has significant concerns

I am epileptic. My epilepsy is mild enough that I do not take a daily dose of medication. However, I am more sensitive than most people to things that lower the seizure threshold, like d-limonene in citrus peel, high-intensity sweeteners like aspartame, etc. Xylitol lowers my seizure threshold by quite a lot. I didn't see the link until I researched it after I had eaten about six teaspoons of it. I spent more than a week afterward combating "attacks" (small partial seizures that I can stop from becoming a grand mal with breathing techniques and focusing techniques). I also developed acid reflux, which I've now read is another thing xylitol can cause. I have mouth sores and a sore throat still from it. I bought hardwood "made in America" xylitol in the hopes I wouldn't have the side-effects I'd had from China-sourced xylitol in years past when I last tried it (mainly it would make me feel very hot but I also had acid reflux at the time I didn't connect to the xylitol). I wonder how much of the side-effect issue is related to aluminum and/or nickle contamination from the processing. Aluminum is a neurotoxin.

Anyone prone to acid reflux and epilepsy should avoid xylitol. It's too bad the articles about sweeteners on this site always are biased — clearly favorably toward marketing the products. This article makes no mention of the tumors related to xylitol consumption, metabolic acidosis, or the metal catalyst residue concern.

Given that I have blood sugar that's too high I have been trying to replace sucrose for quite some time but nothing seems to work well. Maltitol gives me the famous maltitol headache. Erythritol gives me the typical symptom of itchy skin. Aspartame gives me headaches, even in very small amounts. Sucralose is one I don't trust because it kills beneficial bacteria in the colon and allows harmful ones related to insulin resistance and inflammation to thrive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.208.227.254 (talk) 19:19, 2 October 2016 (UTC)