Template:Did you know nominations/Unity Dow
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:56, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Unity Dow
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Unity Dow, 2011
... that Unity Dow's (pictured) actions as a plaintiff and legal counsellor successfully challenged gender discrimination in Batswana law?pp 48-50 Botswana: The Unity Dow Citizenship Case and "Refusal to register LEGABIBO was not reasonably justifiable under the Constitution. It violated the applicants' rights to freedom of expression, freedom of association and freedom of assembly as enshrined under Sections 3, 12 and 13 of the Constitution of Botswana," said the judge...Former High Court Judge and renowned human rights lawyer Unity Dow represented the applicants in this case"[1]- ALT1:... that Unity Dow (pictured), as Botswana's first woman to serve as a High Court judge, made the first ruling in Botswana to recognise the rights of indigenous people to their ancestral lands? p 227 first female judge and "This is the first decision to acknowledge and apply core elements of the doctrine of native or aboriginal title in Botswana.p=121 Available from the WPLibrary.
- ALT2:... that Unity Dow (pictured), a former High Court judge, human rights advocate, and politician in Botswana, is also an influential fiction author? p 227 first female judge, human rights for women in six countries, writer, politician and "the most influential writer of fiction in Botswana today"p=81
- Reviewed: Lesley Akyaa Opoku Ware
- Comment: I really, really want her to have the photo slot if that is at all possible.
Improved to Good Article status by SusunW (talk), Ipigott (talk), and GRuban (talk). Nominated by SusunW (talk) at 18:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC).
Substantial interesting life and work, on excellent sources, subscription source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and shows (her) well, and I wonder why it isn't the lead image in the article. I'd also add a few awards to the ibox (once looking at that corner). Of the hooks, I like ALT2 best - as the broadest picture of her activities, but think that Botswana comes too late. I added commas to it. Striking the original as too much legal speek, but that may be just me. In ALT1, could we avoid to have "first" twice? New version below this please, or' they'd look approved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, thanks for reviewing it. Personally, I like the first one because she was a plaintiff challenging law as it impacted women and a legal counsel challenging law as it impacted the LGBT+ community, and I think those have broad appeal, but whatever. She "was" both the first woman high court judge and first to rule for indigenous land rights. 2 separate things, I don't understand why that would be an issue. (She is internationally renowned for these 3 landmark legal cases, so to me, that has broad appeal, but I don't know diddly about what is appealing to DYK readers, so I bow to your judgment.) I didn't use this photo as the lede image because I personally like the lede image better (she looks strong and powerful), "but" this one would look better in the tiny size for the front page (and looks friendly and writerish). If you want Alt2 to read: ... that Unity Dow (pictured), a former Batswana High Court judge, human rights advocate, and politician, is also an influential fiction author? that's fine, as long as someone doesn't come along again and change Batswana (the adjective) to Botswana (the noun), like they did on hook 0. I appreciate you. SusunW (talk) 22:10, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining and trying to follow. Original: can you word a new version that avoids the possessive, then pictured, then continuing? ALT1: if it can't be avoided, I like it less than ALT2 (said before). Take your time, bedtime, and a busy day tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, maybe we put all of it in one? I think it is really unusual to have acted in all of those different legal capacities. She has basically worked in every capacity of law. And I think it's within the word count, i.e. I get 192 char if I leave out pictured from the count. Your thoughts Gerda Arendt? (I did not say Motswana writer, because I think that would be more confusing.)SusunW (talk) 15:36, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that in Botswana, writer Unity Dow (pictured) took legal actions as a plaintiff, legal counsellor, and judge to challenge gender discrimination and protect indigenous rights, before becoming a legislator? SusunW (talk) 00:49, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! ALT3 preferred. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining and trying to follow. Original: can you word a new version that avoids the possessive, then pictured, then continuing? ALT1: if it can't be avoided, I like it less than ALT2 (said before). Take your time, bedtime, and a busy day tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, thanks for reviewing it. Personally, I like the first one because she was a plaintiff challenging law as it impacted women and a legal counsel challenging law as it impacted the LGBT+ community, and I think those have broad appeal, but whatever. She "was" both the first woman high court judge and first to rule for indigenous land rights. 2 separate things, I don't understand why that would be an issue. (She is internationally renowned for these 3 landmark legal cases, so to me, that has broad appeal, but I don't know diddly about what is appealing to DYK readers, so I bow to your judgment.) I didn't use this photo as the lede image because I personally like the lede image better (she looks strong and powerful), "but" this one would look better in the tiny size for the front page (and looks friendly and writerish). If you want Alt2 to read: ... that Unity Dow (pictured), a former Batswana High Court judge, human rights advocate, and politician, is also an influential fiction author? that's fine, as long as someone doesn't come along again and change Batswana (the adjective) to Botswana (the noun), like they did on hook 0. I appreciate you. SusunW (talk) 22:10, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
