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Fit/ fitted
Hi. I noticed you reverted my edit in which I changed the word 'fit' to fitted as the sentence was in the past tense. I am fairly familiar with US/ UK English but I of course did some research. I would not normally change from one variety to another. I genuinely had no idea that 'fit' was used as a past simple in US English. I have learnt something new! Sorry about that.NEDOCHAN (talk) 15:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- No need to apologize, glad you learned something new! Cerebral726 (talk) 16:45, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm working on the county links for the table on the indiana page.
Sorry...I should have done my update in one step...if you want to hold off on manually re-adding county links, I'll have them updated in a few minutes. 3Idiot (talk) 16:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good! I was also working on automating it through excel, so thanks for letting me know! Cerebral726 (talk) 16:47, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- 3idiot, I actually added my version in cause I finished it up. Hopefully that'll save you time, but definitely feel free to add yours if you've made some updates/changes, etc.! Cerebral726 (talk) 16:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Cerebral726, you won the race! Looks good for today. I almost have the Excel formula figured out to include those links next time I run the automatic generation...and hopefully the left-align style too. Maybe I'll find a way to get your eyes on it before tomorrow's update. The latest update to the data visualization on the ISDH site makes it tough to get the county-level data from there...but it accelerated my plans to automate the generation of that table anyway. 3Idiot (talk) 16:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- I figured out how to do the left align style in excel, had to use CHAR(34) instead of an actual quotation mark. With Counties in A, cases in Column B, and Deaths in Column C, my formula is:
="|- "&CHAR(10)&"|style="&CHAR(34)&"text-align:left;"&CHAR(34)&"|[["&A2&" County, Indiana|"&A2&"]]||"&B2&"||"&C2
- Hopefully that's what you were looking for. Also, it is quite frustrating that they don't have it in chart form now, even if we automate it as much as possible through excel. Cerebral726 (talk) 17:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Laporte County, Indiana is flagged as a miscapitalization. Should be LaPorte County, Indiana. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 01:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification, I'll fix that in my template! Cerebral726 (talk) 01:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Time travel
[1] - how is that a source dated 2016 is being used to cite information from 2020? See WP:HIJACK. -- GreenC 17:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Fair point. I didn't add that they were open, I just tried to fix the poor phrasing and inadvertently hijacked, but that was definitely a bad error. Found a couple sources and added them. Thanks for noticing and notifying me. Cerebral726 (talk) 17:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oh no problem thanks for the graceful response and article improvement I happened to see it on my watchlist, take care. -- GreenC 01:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Talk
You mentioned multiple people reverted my change. I stand by my original edit. Not sure the best way to move forward with this but open to your suggestions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Username679 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- You'll want to go to the Kari Byron Talk Page, hit "New Section", and write why you think your use of "wed" and "union" is better than "married" and "marriage". That will start a discussion about whether that change is worth making. However, since multiple people have reverted your change, it seems clear that consensus will be in favor of the more commonly used, and more accurate term "marriage". In the mean time, it is important you leave it as it is in line with WP:STATUSQUO.
Daniel Craig (James Bond) orders Vesper with wrong recipe in Casino Royal
You removed my comment about Daniel Craig ordering the cocktail "Vesper" with wrong recipe. Mr Craig says "Two measures of Gordon's Gin" instead of three measures. My comment is easy to check for anyone who has the film or who searches for the scene on YouTube. Maybe my comment that the balance of the drink is lost with that recipe and it becomes bitter is less valid as it can be seen as a personal taste.
When the movie scene is mentioned in the article, do you find it uninteresting or wrong to mention that the recipe given in the film differs from that in the book and in the wikipedia article?
QV (talk) 11:20, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- The reason I removed your edit was because it included commentary like "unfortunately" and personal opinions on the taste of the drink. If you had a source, it would be interesting/valid to include how the drink differs in the movie/book, but you need a source as you there is strict policies against WP:OR. --Cerebral726 (talk) 12:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
I added the information about Daniel Craig ordering with a different recipe again, now following your instructions above, without the use of "unfortunately" and personal opinions on the taste of the drink. How it is said by Daniel Craig in the movie is very easy to check by anyone who has the film or who searches for the scene on YouTube. QV (talk) 07:03, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I just looked up the scene and Daniel Craig clearly says "3". So the fact is incorrect and uncited. You won't be able to find a source to support the claim, since there is no inconsistency between the movie and the book. Also important though, your new edit did not fix the issue of doing WP:OR. It's one of the Wikipedia:Core content policies, so it's important you read and understand it before trying to make any similar edits. --Cerebral726 (talk) 13:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Sorry!
Oops, I've just reverted some pending edits on Bo Burnham, and only after I clicked the button I noticed there was your valid edit also in the queue. Apologies! --DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- HA! No worries at all! Thanks for the apology though, and thanks for keeping the article clean. --Cerebral726 (talk) 17:53, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- I've restored your edit (well, made it again) in a pitiful attempt to make good. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Numberphile podcast article
See my response on my talk page (keeping discussion all in one place). Thank you for your help.--Toploftical (talk) 19:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- I assume you have seen my latest response. Thanks again.--Toploftical (talk) 21:11, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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James Grime
James Grime is a frequent presenter on Numberphile. A page with that name has been repeatedly deleted. There are quite a few red links to James Grime in WP (but for all we know, some interested party created them; see Wikipedia:Link farm.) His buddy Matt Parker has a page and nobody seems to have a problem with that.
Ignore all this if you have no opinion about it. Otherwise, see the discussion on my Talk Page--Toploftical (talk) 21:46, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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Question About Beer Helmet Edit
Hello,
I host a small podcast over the history of hats, and am looking into the history of the beer helmet. I noticed your edit on the party hat page. I was wondering what brought you across that page, and why you decided to look more into it and edit out the reference to Jeremy Gumbo? I have found the same information as yourself, but am hoping you would be willing to share what brought you to the page (and the beer helmet aspect) in the first place?
Thanks so much!
DTAHpod (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2021 (UTC)DTAHpod
- How fun! In a fun bit of coincidence, I am interested in the article because I am one of the primary contributors to another podcast's article The Anthropocene Reviewed. The podcast involves rating things from the current geological epoch (largely dominated by humans) on a five star scale, and in the 29th episode, he reviews 17 things, including beer helmets. I wanted to link to beer helmet, and when I went over to that article, I noticed it was pretty subpar so I wanted to improve it.--Cerebral726 (talk) 12:42, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Tulsa Fire Department
You deleted my addition to the Tulsa Fire Department article for grammar and reference reasons. I added 2 local news links about Protecfire and 1 link to the official Protecfire website. So that shouldn't be an issue. Jackson3423123 (talk) 18:21, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- My main issue was with the formatting and grammar. The news article was fine, though please use proper citation formatting such as this: <ref name="PRTulsa">{{cite news |last1=Trotter |first1=Matt |title=Tulsa Airport Authority Approves Fire and Rescue Contract with Wisconsin Firm |url=https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tulsa-airport-authority-approves-fire-and-rescue-contract-wisconsin-firm#stream/0 |access-date=15 September 2021 |work=www.publicradiotulsa.org |language=en}}</ref>
- Additionally, the sentence "During his first year as chief, Tulsa Fire Department as left Tulsa International airport fire operations to a Wisconsin firm protecfire." has multiple issues, including a redlink that does not seem necessary. I apologize, since I know you were acting in good faith, but with the way they were added, I felt they couldn't stay in the article until it was fixed. --Cerebral726 (talk) 18:38, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
NYT crossword
Hi Cerebral! Just a heads up, since you seem to be monitoring the Will Shortz page, that the IP that's been disrupting that page and Joel Fagliano with POV/UNDUE information has been blocked. If they start harassing you for cleaning up after them, please don't hesitate to seek admin help. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 20:05, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Sdkb looks like they're back with a new IP. I'm not sure the best route for reporting a block avoidance. Is it WP:SPI? --Cerebral726 (talk) 16:54, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Nope, for cases this obvious I think just WP:AIV per #6 in the instructions there. Temporarily protecting the articles might be needed, too. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 17:32, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Sdkb looks like they're back with a new IP. I'm not sure the best route for reporting a block avoidance. Is it WP:SPI? --Cerebral726 (talk) 16:54, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
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Regarding changes to Steve Zaragoza's Wikipedia Entry
Hello, as an initial heads up, this situation might have resolved itself, as Ms. Nicole has removed the original Instagram post regarding the sexual misconduct accusations against Mr. Zaragoza. However, the reference I made initially on the page was mirroring what I've seen on other celebrity pages regarding sexual misconduct allegations, as well as the verbiage I used, which I was very careful to make informational and not accusatorial. I am in contact with Ms. Nicole about the removal of the video, so I'll update once I know more, but the initial video might have been taken down due to legal reasons involving the two of them, so it might end up making more sense just to keep my edits off the page for now until more is found out about this case. --ruffsnap (talk) 13:51, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- I appreciate you coming to the Talk Page to start a discussion! Regardless of your good neutral phrasing, the important part of your edit missing is having a reliable source, especially on a WP:BLP and regarding a controversial matter. An Instagram video of an accusation is far from a RS, so I'd recommend that you do not add any content regardless of the outcome of your conversations with Zaragoza's accuser unless you have a strong secondary source discussing the accusations. --Cerebral726 (talk) 14:02, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- So again, I was basing on how I sourced it off of what was on other celebrities' pages who have been accused of sexual misconduct. There was at least one that used a social post as the source, I can't recall the exact example right now, I just sort of googled around #metoo'd celebs basically. I could link to Mr. Zaragoza's social media response posts to the accusations if that adds legitimacy to the sources as having both sides represented better or something. But I mean I think there's value, if not MORE value in having first-hand accounts from the actual people involved vs. a more traditional news or blog article-type source that you/Wikipedia might view as more "valid" or "legitimate", as they would just recount what was said in those videos from both sides anyways. --ruffsnap (talk) 17:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- If you find controversial additions such as sexual assault allegations on other articles only sourced to primary sources, it may be best to remove it. The relevant policies here areWP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:ABOUTSELF which specifically disallow the additions you are wishing to make. It's not a both sides things, and adding in another non-reliable source would not fix the issues I'm bringing up. Having verifiable, reliable sources for articles, especially for biographies of living people, is a core policy of Wikipedia. Understanding those policies and their importance by reading the policies I linked would be a good idea. There are strong reasons we do not rely on first person accounts in this way on Wikipedia. --Cerebral726 (talk) 18:43, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- I do get where you're coming from, I just don't fully agree when it comes to things like sexual misconduct and #metoo stuff. I had to do my due diligence to question your edits somewhat as not being done through Zaragoza trying to "clear his name" so to speak, as his agency has already been doing to some degree with making sure things get buried, and likely involved in having Nicole's video taken down on Instagram as well. --ruffsnap (talk) 22:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm just telling you what the Wikipedia policies are. If you don't agree with them, that is fine, just as long as you don't violate them. If you wish to continue editing Wikipedia (which I genuinely hope you do), it is critical you abide by them. I understand you want to cover something important in the way you see is right, but this speculation and use of primary sources (or no sources) is never going to be suitable for Wikipedia. I'll leave it at that. --Cerebral726 (talk) 12:21, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- I get ya, we'll just have to agree to disagree - but either way your last edit is the way Zaragoza's page will stand, so I guess you've technically won in that regard lol. Again, I'll add an updated comment here if I hear anything more from Nicole's (or Zaragoza's) people. Peace for now. --ruffsnap (talk) 17:57, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
DYK for The Anthropocene Reviewed
On 6 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Anthropocene Reviewed, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that on his podcast The Anthropocene Reviewed, John Green reviews velociraptors, a hot dog stand in Iceland, and bubonic plague? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Anthropocene Reviewed. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Anthropocene Reviewed), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Proposed deletion of Numberphile
Regarding User:TipsyElephant's Proposed deletion of Numberphile (I am the creator of Numberphile). I do not see a Proposed deletion/dated tag (YET). I see that you have responded and added some refs. Is there anything I should do? Thanks so much cerebral one.--Toploftical (talk) 17:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- Toploftical, I removed the Proposed Deletion (WP:PROD) and added some sources, so unless someone starts a WP:AFD, the article will remain. If you're looking to help keep the article from deletion should someone nominate it for that, you can find more strong sources that are specifically about the channel, as opposed to its content. That would help improve the quality of sourcing of the article. --Cerebral726 (talk) 18:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks--Toploftical (talk) 18:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Purdue Colors
Hello, I've started a discussion about Purdue University's colors on the talk page if you'd like to join. Thought I'd let you know and discuss it so and edit war doesn't start, though I will admit I did revert it back to old gold and black while we build some consensus. Invinciblewalnut (talk) 20:49, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
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- @Eviolite:, Thank you very much, you're very kind! Great work to you as well. --Cerebral726 (talk) 15:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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Advice for a newbie!
Hi there! I'm new to Wikipedia and have just written my first article on Alabama literature. In it, I discuss John Green and Looking for Alaska. I saw that you've recently edited the John Green article and that he's clearly someone who interests you, so I was wondering if you could take a look at my article and give me any advice that you have? Thank you! CatVallejo (talk) 01:33, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- The article looks like a good start, content creation is a large task and it seems like you added a ton. A few points I would raise:
- The article needs a lot more reliable sourcing throughout the text. Some paragraphs have no sources at all. Make sure your sources are reliable and don't cite the book you are talking about as the direct source for the information. Anything that isn't backed up by a source could be removed, so have them after each sentence or group of sentences backed up by that source.
- There are a few phrases that are written like a personal essay. "Now a cultural phenomenon, Forest Gump...", try to avoid that. The current phrasing seems to presume knowledge that the reader has a la "We all know Forrest Gump now, but...". It could be better phrased by describing the impact the book had, especially on Alabama literature.
- Use American English, aka ostracized (not ostracised), recognized (not recognised), etc.
- If you need to link something like Harper Lee's, use [[Harper Lee]]'s, not [[Harper Lee|Harper Lee's]]
- Finally, I would most recommend going over to Wikipedia:Peer review, where people do much more extensive overviews. I would start working on sourcing first while you wait for someone to respond to your request, which you can make here: Wikipedia:Peer review/guidelines. --Cerebral726 (talk) 12:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, your notes are really helpful, I will absolutely get to work implementing all of them. I would never even have considered something like using American English, I'm Australian so it didn't even cross my mind! Again, thank you. CatVallejo (talk) 05:02, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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Still watching me out, right? [a]
AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 08:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Like before, I saw one of your edits (Sandstone) in a topic that interests me and wanted to see if you made similar edits in similar topics. I chose to make a few fixes to grammar and phrasing that I found, leaving the intent of your edits intact and improving upon them. Cerebral726 (talk) 11:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Nine campuses
Thanks for your ongoing attention to Indiana University - Purdue University Indianapolis. The user editing from an IP address is probably an IUPUI person (as am I). Their edits on School of Medicine's research dollars and Carnegie, etc ... sort of outs them as having insider knowledge. In the IU system, we tend to think of IUB, IUPUI, + the 5 regional campuses = seven. Weirdly enough Fort Wayne and Columbus get lumped in with IUPUI as "regional centers" ... not campuses. (Nonetheless, those "regional centers" do have "campuses.") See: https://www.iu.edu/about/locations.html I'm fine though with sticking with nine campuses. -- Jaireeodell (talk) 19:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Use of ʻokina and kahakō in Hawaiʻi-related articles
Hello,
Please do not remove words that use the ʻokina or kahakō in Hawaiʻi-related articles where they appear in the article body. Per MOS:HAWAII, this is the preferred use as the inclusion or omission of any ʻokina or kahakō can radically alter the meaning of a Hawaiian word.
Since many established Hawaiʻi-related articles do not include ʻokina or kahakō in their respective titles (e.g. Oʻahu), and moving an article just to include ʻokina and kahakō has been disfavored on Wikipedia, piped links are routinely used so that the appropriate spelling can be used within an article. Mahalo, Musashi1600 (talk) 11:42, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for the notification, I appreciate the kind tone. I wasn’t aware of that guidance. I saw a lot of the additions had been made by someone who was changing article titles without discussion to include them, so I was a bit overzealous in reverting the related additions. I’ll make sure to follow that in the future! Cerebral726 (talk) 11:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)