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August 2020

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Richard Anthony Earnshaw moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Richard Anthony Earnshaw, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Captain Calm (talk) 09:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DJ888kmg, I removed the Java Jazz source because it did not seem to mention any of the claims in the previous sentence. Discogs is user-generated so we can't use it. An article needs to demonstrate that a subject has gotten significant coverage in reliable sources, and all statements should have a good source attached to it. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:01, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Spiritchaser (Musician)

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Angie Brown stuff

Can you say where the image of Angie Brown came from? Can you cite a source for Brown being called a house singer or an R&B singer or a pop singer?

Note that Discogs is a deprecated source, considered unreliable because the users can change the facts. See WP:ALBUMAVOID. The only place for a Discogs link is at the External links section.

The layout of the biography should have fewer headers so that each section contains a couple of paragraphs. You have sections containing only one sentence.

Remember to stay logged in. It's a violation of WP:MULTIPLE for you to use the account DJ888kmg and also the IP Special:Contributions/95.148.111.37.

Inline URLs are deprecated. Instead of linking text to an external URL, you should cite the URL at the end of a sentence. Binksternet (talk) 19:29, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your input.

The image was from the Telegraph and is not in public domain may ned to be removed (unless fair use come in to play on Wikipedia?)
The non-disco Cite's to the various records Angie has performed on should clarify the Genres cover (House, R&B & Pop) - If not I will source more (not sure how to Cite in the infobox area?
Biog, noted, will add further info
The IP/logged in issue was an oversight on my part. Whilst I may not remain logged in all the time I'll ensure not edit if not logged in.
URLs I didn't know this, why is this an Option? Intuitively leads to uninformed, new User to do exactly that.

Best — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ888kmg (talk • contribs)

I've built up a good number of musician biographies, so I can help you here. Let me hit two points:

You would not be able to get a non-free fair use image rationale to stick unless the image showed something very famous happening, or if the person is dead, in which case you can have exactly one non-free image. Is it possible to contact Brown or her agent and get them to donate a photo?
The genres in the infobox should be connected to Brown herself rather than to songs or albums. Like if a critic says "disco diva Brown sang a song" then we definitely could put disco in the infobox. But if it says "Brown sang a disco song" then they are talking about the song, not Brown directly. Her song and album genres can be described in the article body text.
You can get my attention by WP:PING pinging me. You write {{u|Binksternet}}, type out your question, and then you tap four tildes at the end: ~~~~ (The four tildes place your signature and send the ping notification.)

Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 20:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I’ll be sure to take all this on board. So can a Cite for the info box genre just sit in main body of the page? 95.148.111.37 (talk) 21:15, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Binksternet Thanks! I’ll be sure to take all this on board. So can a Cite for the info box genre just sit in main body of the page? DJ888kmg (talk) 21:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC) DJ888kmg (talk) 21:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! A cite in the article body covers anything in the infobox and the lead section. Binksternet (talk) 22:20, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks DJ888kmg (talk) 22:37, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

{{u|Binksternet}}Hey Binksternet! Hope you're well. Wondered if you'd be intersect in this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Video_Performance_Ltd I've always found music Copyright and IP fascinating and this is connected to the UK collections societies etc... ~~~~

Your submission at Articles for creation: Video Performance Ltd (August 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Lapablo was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Video Performance Ltd (August 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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sources are not in-depth or independent and being listed at Companies House confers no notability whatsoever.

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Symbol opinion vote.svg Comment: sources are not in-depth or independent and being listed at Companies House confers no notability whatsoever. Theroadislong (talk) 21:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Theroadislong (talk) 21:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Theroadislong Companies House certainly does not offer Notability, agreed. But, it does conform to Wikipedias General notability guideline on "independence" and verifies date of incorporation and legal name, so important to clarify, wouldn't you agree, Theroadislong? Have also added additional important information and cites to verify Notability. Please take some time to review, also you keep removing my addition as to what VPL or Vpl may refer to after I've added "Video Performance Limited" but you've already seen the Citation in the draft article clarifying it exists, maybe you'd be kind enough to read the additional citations which clarify it more than qualifies as being Notable.: DJ888kmg (talk) 14:59, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 2020

This is your only warning; if you move a page disruptively again, as you did at Phonographic Performance Limited, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. We have already discussed this on my talk page. You have already been advised that if you think the page should be moved, you must start a Requested move. This is the second time you have moved this article without getting a consensus. The first time is an honest mistake, but now it's been explained to you. Do not do it again. TJRC (talk) 16:59, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TJRC Hi, this is not an intentional disruptive move. The acronym "PPL" is what the Company is most Commonly Known as (and I am attempting to name the page as per Wikipedia guidelines on page naming) and 110,000 members and the 100,000's of UK fee payers know "Phonographic Performance Limited" as "PPL" - and they are a "Music Copyright Collective Society" it is of course not to intentionally move this page disruptively! My intention is is ensure correct and factual data is input on Wiki, nothing more. I did ask for more input on this issue as I'm unsure how to move a page to "Request Move" I actually thought this was initiated via the move itself, given your threat of being blocked and obvious upset, I'm certain this is not the case, but I would appreciate help and advise.DJ888kmg (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

binksternet Hope you're well! How do I request a page move? I've mage genuine attempt to change page so it can be identified as the name it is most commonly known as "PPL" and added a logic tag, that being "PPL - Music Copyright Collection Society" to differentiate from any other acronyms called "PPL" - any help gratefully received! DJ DJ888kmg (talk) 17:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how it's hurting anyone that the article about PPL is still based at the page Phonographic Performance Limited. There are other PPLs out there, some very widely known, arguably better known than your your PPL. I don't see any need for change. Binksternet (talk) 18:04, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Binksternet Thats a fair point. However, most people do not commonly know this Copyright collective by its' full legal name. It is almost exclusively referred to as "PPL". Many Performers (Musicians) will not realise that a page titled [:Phonographic Performance Limited]] actually relates to the UK Music Copyright collective "PPL" and so could be hurt by the fact they don't access to the Articles info. I've managed to start a request move discussion on [Phonographic Performance Limited]] and input warmly welcomed. Thanks. DJ888kmg (talk) 07:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you really want to move the article, you must start a Requested move on the article talk page. Binksternet (talk) 18:18, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The name change has been suggested before on the article's talk page, it was turned down, standard practice is that when an entity uses an ambiguous abbreviation, we used the unabbreviated name for the title. Theroadislong (talk) 18:30, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Understand on previous suggestion of name change but presumably this isn't "gospel" right, my understanding is Wikipedia is "fluid" and adapts as new information and facts come to light? DJ888kmg (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A search on PPL gets to a list that includes Phonographic Performance Limited. That should suffice. David notMD (talk) 19:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD: Thanks for your comment. I think the Article title should include the name by which the target is most commonly known and mostly referred to, that being "PPL"? I Have started a move request on page if you'd like to input. And, noted on the search comment, see move request page for Phonographic Performance Limited. DJ888kmg (talk) 07:41, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Richard Anthony Earnshaw (September 30)

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This draft does not appear to indicate which of the musical notability criteria is satisfied. If at least one of the criteria is satisfied, please revise this draft appropriately, with a reliable source, if necessary stating on the talk page which criterion is met, and resubmit.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Video Performance Ltd (December 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Nightenbelle was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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The only sources that contribute to notability are the NYT articles on the deal with MTV, and the Muscically article on the same, which only establishes they are connected to a notable subject- but does not show notability in and of itself. Every other source is either a primary source, or gives only passing mention to VPL. to establish notability- you need multiple independent secondary sources which give significant coverage to the subject. Not primary. Also, no single sentence needs more than 2 or 3 sources. Please do not WP:Refbomb

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