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Archive for July-September 2009

Canada Day - time template

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Requires magic admin fingers since it's an edit to T:DYK/Q. Shubinator (talk) 01:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Gatoclass (talk) 06:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Behind the scenes of ITN...

[1] :-( --BorgQueen (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you expect me to do about this BQ. It's not my fault the number of submissions has tapered off. I think we currently have a semi-official number of seven hooks per update, but I had to throw a bunch of updates together quickly for Canada Day, and just made them six hook updates because it was faster. Gatoclass (talk) 13:00, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry my post wasn't quite clear. No, of course it's not your fault and you've been doing a great work. Just curious, do you know how many "usable" candidates we have to have on the nomination page in order to have eight hooks per each update? --BorgQueen (talk) 13:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

There's no hard and fast rule, and quite honestly I can't clearly recall the fluctuations we've had or the way we dealt with them, but IIRC earlier this year we had 220-240 hooks on the Suggestions page AND a full queue and still managed to work our way through them, and over the last several weeks we had around 180-190 hooks and full queues, which remained steady in spite of doing eight hooks per update. But since about the end of May the number of submissions seemed to drop off, so we wound it back to six per update. Now we are back to 180 hooks at suggestions but the queues are nowhere near full, if they were, the number would be about 150 hooks at Suggestions, which is getting a little thin.

So I guess my answer to you would be that around 180-190 hooks at Suggestions plus six or seven full updates would be what I regard as optimal, above that number would be getting a little heavy and below would be a little light. So I'd say we are about 20-30 hooks "light" at the moment. Gatoclass (talk) 14:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

"Refer to Canada" test?

Sigh. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You seem to have sorted that out now :) Gatoclass (talk) 16:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Union Mills, Burnham Overy

I've replied at T:TDYK explaining where the ref is to be found. Mjroots (talk) 10:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK Mistake

Hi, I made a mistake when citing the hook for the Amak Volcano article. I apologize, could you check it again, the eruptive history information can be found on the eruptive history tab [2]. Thanks, ceranthor 11:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Template:Did you know/Queue/4

I suppose we are going back to six hooks per update? --BorgQueen (talk) 13:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I just missed the fact that the update wasn't finished :b I'm looking for a seventh hook now :) Gatoclass (talk) 13:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello! Can you please stop adding unprotected images to the queues? We've had quite a few reach the main page before anyone noticed. (Please see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Unprotected images.) Thank you! —David Levy 20:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes I did see your complaint at DYK talk a few days ago. Unfortunately after I promoted that update to the queue last night, Wikipedia went AWOL, and I was unable to edit a Wikipedia page for an hour. In the end I just gave up. That's how come the image didn't get protected. Gatoclass (talk) 00:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

In the future, please protect the image before adding it to the queue. —David Levy 00:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK queue

Sorry about skipping the prep and putting hooks directly into the queue; I was trying to prepare an update or two for Bastille Day (which has already started in France) so I wanted to hasten things along by BOLDly putting it straight in the queue. I figured if we used one of Ottava's hooks per queue (1, 2, 3, and 4), we'd have enough to get through the day. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 03:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it's a good idea to do that. If you get called away or something, we end up with a half finished queue. The reason we have prep pages is so that we don't end up with half-finished updates here, there and everywhere.

Apart from which, I deliberately chose what I felt were the two best Bastille Day hooks to feature in the middle of Bastille Day in Europe. So it kind of mucked up my strategy as well. Anyway, no harm done now, all the Bastille Day hooks have been promoted. Gatoclass (talk) 03:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I wanted to say that you two have definitely been doing a very good job at DYK lately (and DYK has been going much better). Oh, and sorry for putting those hooks in at the last moment again. It was one of those things at a meeting "oh, yeah, Bastille day is coming up... is anyone going to do anything?" :) Ottava Rima (talk) 03:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Panic call

The queue is empty and we have less than an hour until the next update. I am engaged in some other stuff so I was wondering if you could do it. Are you currently online? --BorgQueen (talk) 14:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess not... --BorgQueen (talk) 15:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Dominant Factor Test at DYK

Ok, can you be a little more helpful with your comment? You don't think the hook is quite right? Can you elaborate? Possibly propose an alternative? Simply stating that you don't think it is quite right is not a helpful comment, it give no guidance or insight on what you think is wrong.---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 13:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes I know, but I didn't have time to elaborate and I was concerned someone might promote the article with a substandard hook. I haven't the energy to think up a new hook tonight, but I'll try to remember tomorrow. For the record though, I will say that one problem I have with the current hooks is the word "proven" which I think is misleading. The game has been ruled, or determined, or found not to be gambling, but "proven" suggests there is no argument about it, which would not be correct. Gatoclass (talk) 14:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I can appreciate that... and that gives me something to work with. The way it was, it did not help at all except to say, "IDONTLIKEIT".---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 14:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK Nomination July 7 Alfa Romeo (yacht)

Thanks for pointing out the ambiguity about Alfa Romeo I vs. Alfa Romeo II, etc. I just noticed the DYK talk comment you left; I found and added a reference from Sail-World.com (diff) which clarifies this. It's way down at page bottom (on the referred-to site), unfortunately. Newportm (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

By the way, if you have a suggestion about which other Ship infobox might be better suited (if any), that would be awesome. Newportm (talk) 22:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Angelshark

I used your choice of lead image in the queue #2 instead, so we won't get two biology-related lead hooks in a row. (We currently have one on MP) Thanks for your work. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, don't think it was the best choice to restore Colbrith though because that means three of the next four hooks will have US people hooks. Okay with you if I restore the opera hook in place of Colbrith? Gatoclass (talk) 05:08, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

No, we need female bio lead hooks from time to time. I will see if I can replace any of the male US bio lead hooks. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:11, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought you might say that :) Fair enough, feel free to replace one of the others then. Gatoclass (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I restored the opera (Isn't it actually a ballet?) hook as lead in the queue 4, replacing one. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Good choice. We seem to feature a lot of US football players, so I'm sure it won't hurt to skip one.

BTW, I should add that I quite agree about featuring females from time to time, and was thinking much the same as soon as making my initial comment. It's just that, to be honest, headshot photos get featured a little too frequently for my taste, so unless there is something exceptional about the pic, I generally prefer to see something different. Gatoclass (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree on the headshot images and, if you take a look at the archive, you will see I did everything to replace headshots unless the article is particularly well-written and/or interesting. But for some reason people like to write biographical articles more than about other subjects, and copyright-free portrait images are quite often easily available... --BorgQueen (talk) 06:07, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

File:Conrad Herbert.jpg

Hello again! This is just another reminder to please locally upload and protect Commons images before adding them to the DYK queues. (I've protected this one at Commons.) Thank you! —David Levy 09:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, but I didn't actually add that hook to the queue. Gatoclass (talk) 11:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

My mistake, I did add that to the queue. I did quite a bit of work on the queue this morning, I guess I must have just missed that detail. Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:DYK nominations

Greetings Gatoclass! I must admit I'm a little confused with the recent system. I created the article, but another user, User:Huldra, expanded it greatly (more than I contributed) and so, I would also like for her to get credit for the article. We (and Tiamut) have done this in the past. How would we do it now with the new system. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I have fixed the credits for that article. If someone helps you expand an article significantly, all you need to do is credit that guy as a co-creator, ie credit him/her as "author2" etc. Gatoclass (talk) 04:57, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Ahhhh okay... Thanks for the tip Gato. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 06:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your note

From months ago. It was notes like yours that helped to see why I should come back. I've taken your advice and am working on draft articles for DYK noms in my user space first. Once they are developed I will post to WP:IPCOLL to ask for feedback and then put them up in article space to avoid the deep aggravation I suffered with Lydda Death March. Anyway, thanks again and happy editing. Tiamut^talk 10:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

USS Henrico (APA-45) edits advisory of 10 Jun 09

Gatoclass,

Thank you, sir, for correcting me ref the copyright issue of applying material from the USS Henrico Reunion Association's webpage. I thought I was using the correct attribution process as I had used in college, graduate school and war college, but apparently I wasn't. My late father was a plankowner of and a brand new CPO aboard Henrico in 1944 and I had been a guest at one of the organization's reunions in San Diego 3 years ago when I was still on active duty in a commodore billet. I thought I was doing the previous submission correctly with the best of intentions, but I'm still a new guy at this. Per your recommendation, I will strive to ensure I'm using public sites like DANFS for any future references.

V/r, 72.185.207.17 (talk) 22:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Jim Philpitt, CAPT USN Ret

Gal Oya National Park

Thank you Gatoclass, for the copyediting and reviewing. I think this piping is unintentional though. Hilarious however. Regards!--Chanaka L (talk) 14:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Well it wasn't unintentional, but it does seem to be a misspelling. I guess I've just been spelling it wrong all these years. Thanks for the nudge :) Gatoclass (talk) 14:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

HMS Cockchafer (1915)

Thanks for your assistance in finally getting this listed for the DYK queue. I was starting to think that it was not going to make it. Dabbler (talk) 20:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem :) Gatoclass (talk) 06:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SS Archimedes (120/3 DYKs)

On July 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SS Archimedes, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page _{(here's how)} and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Wimshurst (121/3 DYKs)

On July 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henry Wimshurst, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page _{(here's how)} and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Marine_steam_engine

Hi. I do not understand your addition at Marine_steam_engine#Oscillating: "Alternatively, the piston rods were dispensed with and only connecting rods used (although with this type, the engines could not be double-acting, see below)." What you appear to be describing is a single-acting engine with the gudgeon/wrist-pin in the piston (as per a typical internal combustion engine). Are you talking about the Seaward & Capel design of 1839 (Griffiths, Denis. Steam at Sea: two centuries of steam-powered ships. p. 20.)? If that is so, then it would not be an oscillating engine. If not, what are you describing? oops, forgot to sign Globbet (talk) 21:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, you mean if the connecting rod were attached directly to the piston, there would be no need for the whole cylinder to oscillate? That's a good point - possibly I have misread one of my sources. I'll have to check back through them to see, but I may not be able to do this today. Gatoclass (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I removed that statement in the article for the time being as it isn't confirmed in the source I provided, although I'm sure I read that description somewhere. But until I can relocate the source for it, I think it's best not to include it. Gatoclass (talk) 22:17, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation; content can't be lifted directly from the USCG site.

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Replied at Talk:First ten Revenue Service cutters. Gatoclass (talk) 05:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

My double nomination

Hi, would you please help me out here? I submitted my own DYK double nomination which is now at queue. My hook highlited two brand new articles. It read originally:

... that once a year almost 1000 mummified bodies are put on public display inside the monastic crypt at one of the churches of Kraków, namely, the Church of St. Casimir the Prince (pictured)?

Both articles were fairly elaborate. However, at this moment, while still in queue, only one article remained and is featured there, while the other one, for which I cared even more, has been cut out and discarded. I hope it was not intentional. Please take a look at it.[3] Thanks in advance. --Poeticbent talk 05:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Cc.: User talk:BorgQueen

Why are you linking to an edit that is four months old? Gatoclass (talk) 06:04, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what happened there, but here's the link to the first original edit by Allen3 reducing my double nomination down to a single one.[4] --Poeticbent talk 06:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

And, here's the permanent link to Queue 1 where only my single article (second from the top) is featured. Thanks. --Poeticbent talk 06:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay I've tracked the discussion down. The reason only one article was promoted is because Dravecky considered the other article to be insufficiently sourced, see this page version. Gatoclass (talk) 06:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

It all happened so fast. If I knew about Dravecky's comment made today, I would have beefed up the reference section there of course. I check on my DYK nominations about once or twice a day. I had no clue that there was a problem with sourcing, otherwise I would have made the improvements. What would you suggest? --Poeticbent talk 06:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Well it's up to you. If you want to pull it from the queue to add more references, that's your prerogative. I guess we can give you a day or two to get that done. Otherwise, you can just let it go to the main page with the one article. Gatoclass (talk) 06:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I would rather improve on the references and have both articles promoted, if you'd be so kind. --Poeticbent talk 06:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

P.S.:I might have to find out first what Dravecky meant by his comment about an incomplete hook fact. Obviously, the promoted church belongs to the churches of Krakow, but his comment says that that fact might be unsourced, quote: "the hook fact is incomplete and unsourced in the first article" ... or is it about the mummies? – I would need an extra day to make sense of it. --Poeticbent talk 07:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea to ask Dravecky to clarify. Gatoclass (talk) 07:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I will do that tomorrow sometime. Thanks. --Poeticbent talk 07:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I have restored your nom to T:DYK as requested, with explanatory note. Gatoclass (talk) 07:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. I appreciate it. I just had a few hour sleep and I'm back at it. I wrote a note to Dravecky at User_talk:Dravecky#Re:_my_double_nomination. I'm hoping to have this issue clarified as soon as I find out what he means. Thanks again. --Poeticbent talk 15:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I’m getting more and more philosophical about the whole thing as the time goes by. There probably is some kind of curse hanging over the second part of my double-nom called the Churches of Kraków,[5] now linked, but no longer recognizable. In any case, the most important lesson for me is to accept and let go of it with a smile. Be well. --Poeticbent talk 13:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Template talk:Did you know#Ozzie Cadena

Care to revisit? I'm inclined to check it off, but I wanted to run it by you first. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I have verified the hook now. Thanks for the nudge. Gatoclass (talk) 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Definition of company

From Merriam-Websters: Company, 2(e): a firefighting unit. Was I wrong to assume people are familiar with this common definition in a DYK? --Bobak (talk) 16:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd say so. I don't think too many people would be familiar with this particular definition of "company". Gatoclass (talk) 16:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Seriously? That's honestly the first time I've ever heard anyone say that. Therefore I respectfully disagree with your assumption. I think and educated person would understand the usage since its found in literature, television and other pop culture sources. Perhaps if we extend it to "engine company"? --Bobak (talk) 17:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I've never heard of a fire brigade being referred to as a "company" or "engine company" so I'm assuming these are Americanisms. Gatoclass (talk) 21:00, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Suggested DYK review

Per your comments, I have amended Ludwig Plagge. Cheers, WilliamH (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Adnan al-Malki DYK concern

Greetings Gatoclass! I've replied to your concern at the DYK suggestions page. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Chindia Tower

Thanks... although I was in the process of determining whether one of my books on Romanian history (I own a few) had any information. Unfortunately, none of my sources that mention Târgovişte say anything about the tower or its construction. I can find reference to the besieging of the "fortress of Chilia" on June 22, 1462, and again in January, 1465, by Stefan cel Mare (the Great), but I'm not sure it's the same structure as in our article. This Chilia was set fire to in January, 1499. None of the other names for the tower or its complex appear in the index of any of my books. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:14, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I decided to promote the hook in any case as I couldn't be bothered reinstating it at Suggestions, but with an alternative hook for which there had been no substantial objections. Gatoclass (talk) 05:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Cantiere Navale Triestino

I saw this at WP Ships; I've replied there, and here. I’ve tried to move it, but can’t, probably because of the history. Any suggestions? Should it be at Cantiere Navale Triestino (shipyard) anyway, because of WP:ENGLISH? Xyl 54 (talk) 11:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

William Weston (Explorer)

Dear Gatoclass, it was I Msrasnw that nominated Malick78 and I also tried to co-nominate myself. But I failed. I am not a new editor but still a bit confused by some of these type of things. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 10:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC))

Many thanks :) (Msrasnw (talk) 10:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC))

Z. Marcas DYK

Hey there.. I know you're an active reviewer for DYK, so I hope you can help me out. Another reviewer made some comments on my nomination for the new article on Z. Marcas, but s/he's not been around for four days. Any chance you (or someone else) could verify that it's all kosher now? Thanks in advance. Scartol • Tok 02:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate it. Scartol • Tok 14:37, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

No probs :) Gatoclass (talk) 16:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Possible DYK candidate currently at AfD

I wanted to ask for some possible advice on how to handle this situation. Asylum Seekers (film) is an article that was nominated for deletion while it was a poorly sourced stub. I stepped in to try to save it from deletion by sourcing and expanding it. Along the way I realized that I've expanded it five-fold in the last three days and that there are some interesting facts that could be used as a hook in a DYK. The AfD discussion will not expire until September 8 and, at this point, I have no doubt that the article will be kept but I can't nominate it while at AfD. Will September 8 be too late to nominate the article for DYK? My expansion of it started on September 1 and today is when it reached its five-fold expansion mark so I wasn't 100% sure at which point the five-day count begins. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 13:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Nominate it now (under the day you started the expansion) and it will be processed after the AFD is concluded. If you wait to nominate until after the AFD, it might be challenged on the ground that it's a late nomination.

It might seem a little strange, but it will just fit in better with the mechanics of DYK if you do it that way :) Gatoclass (talk) 13:40, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, I will do that!

Peace! Big Bird (talk • contribs) 14:05, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello

I responded to your message at [6]. Thanks! LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 19:15, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

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Happy Labor Day!

Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, --A Nobody^{My talk} 05:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) Gatoclass (talk) 08:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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DYK set ready

I've completed a set in prep 2, and it's ready to be loaded into queue 5. Shubinator (talk) 06:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. But we really must get you that extra bit soon :) Gatoclass (talk) 06:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh, in time. Tomorrow I'll try to verify a bunch; we're getting dangerously low on verified noms. Thank you! Shubinator (talk) 06:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Unprotected image on main page

File:HarveyLocke.JPG was on the main page without being protected or uploaded from commons. — RockMFR 13:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Protected now, thanks for the heads-up. Gatoclass (talk) 13:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Protection wasn't the issue - the problem was that it wasn't uploaded from commons. Once it was uploaded and since it was already on the main page, cascading protection took care of it. — RockMFR 15:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, well I guess somebody fixed the problem before I got to it then :) Gatoclass (talk) 15:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Eight hours & eight hooks per update

Just in case you haven't noticed my comment... :[7] Now I am going to add one more to the queue to make it eight. --BorgQueen (talk) 08:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Fine by me :) Gatoclass (talk) 09:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Iringh and Platoon 535

How do you do a double header and what exactly is it?radek (talk) 00:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK question

Is the 2009 Iranian Air Force mid-air collision article long enough to nominate? Mjroots (talk) 14:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Currently 1339 chars, or 161 chars short. Gatoclass (talk) 14:30, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Expanded and nominated Mjroots (talk) 15:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi GC

Can you do me a favour, as I see you are active and this could be a touchy subject? I have just pulled back from prep 1 a hook. Its fairly obvious at the end of the suggestions pile. It seems to have a history - before its history. Its a fork of Bukhara and I think it fails DYK. Can you confirm? Victuallers (talk) 15:01, 23 September 2009 (UTC) If you look at the History of Bukhara talk page then you will see my link Victuallers (talk) 15:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure I can do that now, I've just done a whole bunch of verifications and I'm tired. For what it's worth, I did have a quick look at the article the other day and thought it looked okay, but I didn't check to see if it was largely lifted from another article, if that's what you meant. Gatoclass (talk) 15:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, confirmed as a cut and paste. At least somebody around here is awake, nice work Vic ;) Gatoclass (talk) 15:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thx and thx for prompt help. I was surprised that that this appeared to come from an experienced author, and it could have been "tricky" if I had just misunderstood Victuallers (talk) 17:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Lead scandal

Thanks for helping with the rephrasing... I'd run out of inspiration :) Malick78 (talk) 16:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

You mean the lead poisoning article? Not a problem. Do try to ensure in future though that your phraseology is sufficiently different from source. Articles perceived as plagiaristic generally get no second chances at DYK. Gatoclass (talk) 17:06, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Did you know/Queue/5

Just to let you know... I've moved your multiple hook to the queue 5, and since it takes more space than a usual single hook I will have just seven hooks for this update patch. Nice work. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it makes sense to reduce the number of hooks when there's a long multi. And thanks :) Gatoclass (talk) 04:58, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SS Edenton

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SS West Cressey

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DYK for SS West Elcajon

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SS West Gotomska

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SS West Hosokie

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SS West Loquassuck

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for USS West Mahomet (ID-3681)

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for USS Western Front (ID-1787) (129/3 DYKs)

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BorgQueen (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Hardstone carving

I admit I was amazed how difficult it was to find a completely generalized definition to reference for "hardstone carving". There are dozens or hundreds of refs, online & in my books to it in relation to specific objects, periods etc from all over the place, in books, auction catalogues & museum labels etc, but it never appears in glossaries etc, nor even the OED. Then I saw oil painting is equally unreferenced, although I suppose that would be easier to add from a book for schoolkids or something. Johnbod (talk) 13:07, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's funny how common phrases or well known phenomena can sometimes be hard to source. Anyhow, there was enough info here and there IMO to ally concerns. Nice article, BTW :) Gatoclass (talk) 13:35, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 13:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Skinner & Eddy

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