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Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Kaja Rogulj. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Do you want to explain to me how my edits are "Unexplained reverts"? Thanks. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 04:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, well if you want to be a child about it go ahead. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 19:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Mirnel Sadovic. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I've added a reference to this article from Guardian's Stats Centre. Please make sure you add references to all new articles you create about living people. Also, do you have a source which shows that Sadovic played for the Bosnia and Herzegovina national team? I cannot find one. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 20:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marco[edit]

Did you see my comment on the Marco talkpage? Talk:Marko_Arnautović I would like to talk to you about your edits to that page. Off2riorob (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC) As I said there, we are looking for a strong citation to support any disputed claims. Off2riorob (talk) 16:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Regarding your edit summaries and accusations of vandalism, please be aware that, edits/reverts over a content dispute are never vandalism. Off2riorob (talk) 18:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the source that I left? (Marko Arnautovic. Hubschrauber729 (member) is vandalizing every page that has anything to do with Bosnia. comment added by User:Jaganjac|Jaganjac
He is not a vandal, please stop refering to him as one, please read WP:VANDAL
Is this your source [[1]] If it is, it is not a strong source, and can be edited by any member. Off2riorob (talk) 08:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, regarding this page List_of_Bosnian_footballers_who_have_played_for_another_national_team please provide citations for any additions to that page.Off2riorob (talk) 09:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted your uncited additions to the list of bosnian footballers that have player for another national team. I ask you again to stop adding unsourced material to any page. Off2riorob (talk) 08:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Proposed deletion of List of Bosnian footballers who have played for another national team[edit]

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Please don't remove the templatefor that reason, the references need to be on that page not on some other one on wikipedia and not on a wiki p[age where it is also uncited. Your Place of birth does not mean anthing either, that would just give you the possibility to be whatever, there are some dubious claim and they are all uncited.Off2riorob (talk) 17:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Proposed deletion of List of Bosnian footballers who have played for another national team[edit]

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The best thing I can suggest is that you go there and add citations for your claims. Off2riorob (talk) 17:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Populating any of these lists with unreferenced data is a clear violation of BLP policy. The policy is that we aggressively delete unverifiable biographical information - positive, negative, or neutral - from any article on WP, not just "biographical" articles. The question, in my mind, not one single living person should be included in the list without at least one reference to a reliable source. Off2riorob (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the prod template as it says it should not be replaced if it is removed and it was by you so I will take it somewhere else. Regards. Off2riorob (talk) 17:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see and comment Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Bosnian_footballers_who_have_played_for_another_national_team Off2riorob (talk) 18:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

== Repka ==

Jarane, moz' prestat vracat ovo sto ja napravim. Ono sto sam ja postavio je naj aktuelni kadar, igraci koji su pozvani da igraju. Tu nema Husejinovica itd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjecnobordo (talkcontribs) 04:59, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding cats that are not supported by cites[edit]

Hi Jaganjac, I see you have been adding the cat bosnian muslim to quite a few articles, you should not do this unless it is either strongly cited or information relating to that is in the body of the article, I will allow you some time to go back and remove the ones that are uncited, as Muslim is a religion and a claim of someones religiousness is a big issue in a BLP you should only add it if the subject has self declared his adherence to that faith, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 10:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Barnstar[edit]

The Original Barnstar
I, FkpCascais, hereby award you this barnstar for your continuous and professional creation and editing of football biography articles. FkpCascais (talk) 10:02, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanx Jaganjac, we will one day have all the articles in order! FkpCascais (talk) 10:02, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jaganjac. As I see you´re Yugoslav, you certainly know the apropriate diacritics of the names and surnames used in Bosnian, Croatian or Serbian languages. I see you moved this page making the ć→c, any reason? FkpCascais (talk) 05:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC) Hey, you removed diacritics from Adnan Džafić too! FkpCascais (talk) 05:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanx for repliying me. But, no, you´re not right. That is exactly the reason wy the DEFAULTSORTs in the pages does not have diacritics. See the defaultsort when editing some page, it´s in the end of the page, usually before categories (only when editing). Try yourself, in the search, start writting the name of any player with diacritics, and you´ll see that the names with diacritics appear as well as the other ones. Ex:Zeljko will give you all Željko´s... Wikipedia is programed to "read" all letters with diacritics as simple (German, Swedish, Bosnian...). It even converts automatically Đ to DJ. Is there any particular page that you couldn´t find? FkpCascais (talk) 04:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strange. When I start writting even before ending his name Ninoslav, he already appears me as option. When I get to Ninosl , I´m already having 3 options. Ninoslav Milenković, Ninoslav Pavić and Ninoslav Zec. FkpCascais (talk) 05:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, anyway, I looked better if something is going on, and I assure you there is nothing wrong with diacritics. In the Serch you can allways find the players as many diacritics the name has, there has been no problem. Sometimes, people editing wrongly write the names with diacritics in the DEFAULTSORT section, so it blocks, but that is the only place where names should be written without diacritics. Anyay, when some players play in countries where they may find difficult to know exactly the correct diacritics of our names (like Japan, China...), the best way is to make redirect pages. Do you know to do them? Exemple, imagine Zižo Čišović. Just write the name without diacritics, Exemple, player: Zizo Cisovic, then press "make the page" then in white space write only: REDIRECT# Zižo Čišović . This way all link, the ones with ŽsČs and without will go to the same page, wich would be correctly named with diacritics (Exemple) Zižo Čišović. nice name, ah? This is way better than having the names wrongly written. Are those two the only pages you removed the diacritics? FkpCascais (talk) 06:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine you expected this. I've notified the other editor of 3RR. I think it's possible that you interpreted those edits as vandalism, but you probably should have warned the other editor by now. I've informed the other editor to stop making the changes. If they do it again I'll file the 3RR report and revert them. But I also suggest you address them directly as well. They might not respond, but at least it would be a good faith attempt. Shadowjams (talk) 09:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the 3RR guy does actually appear to be correct (despite his incivility and his refusal to AGF), and Marin Čilić really was born in Herzogovina, not Bosnia. Oscroft (talk) 09:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Marin Čilić (Croatian pronunciation: [marin tʃilitɕ]) (born 28 September 1988) is a Croatian professional tennis player born in Bosnia and Herzegovina" - Nice compromise :-) Oscroft (talk) 10:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I reverted your edits in this page, I left the Bosnian wikipedia only, because he did played for Serbia U21, so this way he does categorize as "Serbian". Hey, I wouldn´t mind if you added him as Bosnian, since he is a Bosnian-Serb from Sarajevo, but his U21 caps change this. You can even chek that I am one of the few editors here that considers Bosnian born people allways as Bosnian, it´s just this cases, where the player did played for some other National Team (or Under-21) that the case changes. Same happends with some Bosnian national team players that were born in Serbia, but since they play for Bosnia, they are only categorised as Bosnian, and not Serbian, despite being born in Belgrade, Novi Pazar, or else there. You need to be more careful, and look at some precedent exemples of players born in one place and play for another national team. And also, please, PLEASE, don´t remove the national team caps, as you did in that page, even if Under-21. :) FkpCascais (talk) 06:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hello; I've reverted your uncited information and also the comments you've written about Hospitality; they are not only not cited anywhere in the references but also show a biased POV that we try to avoid here at Wiki; as you've written them they sound like a flattering travel article which is nice but not Wiki standard. You also have written in a personal style (referring to the country as 'here') and that is also not proper POV. I think it's great that you're putting so much effort into adding to the article that I want to encourage you to do so but in proper Wiki form; maybe now would be a good time to reread the Five Pillars. Thank you. Portia327 (talk) 23:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jaganjac[edit]

Hi. I was looking to some squads from the Yugoslav league from the 1980s, and I founded a player named Tahir Jaganjac that obviously reminded me of you :) . He played in NK Jedinstvo Bihać (1982-83), OFK Kikinda (1985-86) and it looks that he also played as a striker in NK Rijeka during the 1990s. Do you know anything about him? FkpCascais (talk) 05:56, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanx for your explanation. Yes, I have the stats for your cousin Haris Jaganjac. It says he played for FK Sarajevo in 1987-88 (16/0), 1988-89 (14/1), 1989-90 (7/1) and 1990-91 (1/0). Unfortunatelly, I only have his stats until 1991, do you know where did he played afterwords? Do you know his playing position, place and birth date? He played in Yugoslav First League, considered professional, so we could/should make him an article. Would you like it? FkpCascais (talk) 07:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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New edits[edit]

Hi Jaganjac, listen, I saw some edits of yours at Nenad Kiso article and I have to say that I disagree with some issues (see: [2]):

  • you change the birth date template into something different. The previous template is widely used, and your inclusion of days beside age is really superfluos and estetically ugly.
  • you changed wrongly Serbian Cyrillic into Bosnian Cyrillic. If you look to it, Bosnian Cyrillic has been extinct in 18th century. The one that is in official use in the state of Bosnia and Herzegovina is the Serbian Cyrillic, so that is the one that should stay in articles. All articles of Bosnian people could have included the Serbian Cyrillic version of their name in the lede, but knowing how much nerves creates in Bosnian nationalists, it is only used for Bosnian Serb people, so that is why Kiso, Bilbija, Trifunovic or Miskovic have it, and Dzeko, Salihamidzic or Beslija don´t. FkpCascais (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Muamer Svraka[edit]

Zdravo. Samo želim reći da sam poništio tvoju promjenu naziva stranice Muamer Svraka na Muamer Švraka, pošto se momak preziva Svraka, ne kao što ste vi napisali Švraka.

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