User talk:Kacie Jane/Archive 6

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i like roads. roads are nice.-- 23:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)adam heeren

An important letter

Dear roads editor,

You may have noticed some changes at WP:USRD lately. Some of them, like the cleanup templates and the stub templates, have been astounding and great. Unfortunately, others have been disturbing.

This has become evidenced by the departure of a few prominent editors at USRD, a few RFC's, and much fighting among USRD editors.

After the second RFC, many of us found the opportunity to take a step away from Wikipedia for a while--as a self-imposed wikibreak, or possibly on vacation.

The result of such introspection was that many of us were placing ourselves in a "walled garden" and on a self-imposed pedestal of authority over the roads department. Also, we were being hostile to a few users who were not agreeing with us.

In fact, IRC has been the main incarnation of this "walled garden." Decisions have been made there to conduct grudges and prejudices against a few valued USRD users with poor justification.

For this, we have come to apologize. We have come to ask your forgiveness.

In addition to this, we hope to work as one USRD team from now on and to encourage cooperation instead of the promotion of interests.

All users are welcome to collaborate on IRC, the newsletter, or anywhere else at USRD.

In the future, please feel free to approach us about any issues you may have.


Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

USRD Inactivity check and news report

Hello, Northenglish. We had a few urgent matters to communicate to you:

  1. Please update your information at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Participants, our new centralized participant list. Those who have not done so by October 20th will be removed.
  2. There are important discussions taking place at WT:USRD relating to whether WP:USRD, WP:HWY, or the state projects should hold the "power" in the roads projects.

Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 23:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

USRD inactivity notification

You have been declared inactive at USRD. If this is in error, feel free to restore yourself to the list, but only if you are truly active at USRD. Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 21:23, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Interstate 605 (Washington)

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An editor has nominated Interstate 605 (Washington), an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interstate 605 (Washington) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

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While you were gone the WP:WASH fell apart. One new editor has been editing those pages, but has not been adhering to standards. Currently Washington is the 40th best state in terms of article quality (not great!) I've been tied up with California and other USRD matters and have ignored it. If you are interested, you might want to assist the project. --Rschen7754 (T C) 01:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


I have sent you an email. --Rschen7754 (T C) 05:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

New Jersey

As Rschen updated Washington for you. New Jersey's been pretty dead. Other than NJ 18 and NJ 33, not much has changed. Most articles are still in desperate need of work. I would do more work on it, but for some reason, NY urks me more. Welcome back btw. Mitch32contribs 14:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Washington 12

I created the shield for WA-12. WA-12.svg Carpetmaster 101 (talk) 00:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

List of state highways in Washington

Please do not put comments on my user's talk page. You make me feelin' upset. I am just fixing the redirects into the correct main articles. Steam5 (talk) 22:47, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

1937 laws

This may help. --NE2 20:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[1] and [2] may also help, though not as much as would be nice. --NE2 09:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The 1970 report at [3] has maps that should be useful. --NE2 07:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I completed Wikipedia:WikiProject Washington State Highways/When each route was added to the state highway system. Except for SR 31 and the Cascade Wagon Road, I am pretty sure about everything before 1950. After 1950, however, Google doesn't have all the laws scanned, so those changes won't be as precise. Wikipedia:WikiProject Washington State Highways/List of laws links to the text of most of the laws where available; 1961 includes a full list of routes at the time. --NE2 20:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Would you happen to be near a library that will have these post-1950 laws, and would be willing to transcribe, scan, or photograph them? That way we'll have the entire legislative history for all routes. --NE2 23:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

How does the new SR 509 map look? --NE2 02:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

IFD blanking

Eeeek, thanks for spotting that. I guess Twinkle went mad. Sorry for the inconvenience ... richi (talk) 11:15, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

US 410

I've confirmed that the US 410 to US 12 change was in late 1967: Talk:Washington State Route 410. Apparently AASHO approved it in June, but signs were changed in December. If you're going to cite one, I recommend the December 27 article.

Unfortunately I could find nothing about the US 830 change except for one mention in February 1968 that says it was part of the same changes. It's definitely possible that it was and yet happened in early 1968, if the signs were changed in two phases. I would assume that AASHO approved both changes at their June 1967 meeting, but again I haven't found anything definite. --NE2 15:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:3dwa 31

A tag has been placed on Template:3dwa 31 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please do not use [4] edit summaries - if you do so repeatedly, you will be blocked by an uninvolved administrator for disruption. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


Mind looking at Talk:List of road-related terminology#Decommission? Thank you. --NE2 21:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, you could ignore it and write some articles; I should be able to help with the history of any Washington highways. --NE2 06:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

What I've used in California, for instance for SR 160 (references 15-16, 20-22, etc.), is enough to find the relevant law. I made a template to help so I didn't have to type out the title of the more common laws every time, but that's not necessary (although it is probably good if the format needs to be changed). --NE2 06:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Talks have broken down... --NE2 22:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Template:3dwa 12

The only SR 120 was a spur of the pre-1967 SR 12; should that not appear in any template? --NE2 01:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Washington State Highways#Lengths. Basically WSDOT adds 0.01 at each "physical gap" where the route "exits itself" (like US 12 at SR 8) so there aren't two separate points with the same ARM. --NE2 07:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes; you can see WSDOT doing it in [5]. --NE2 07:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Citations in the lead of an article

I've opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads#Citations in the lead of an article  — master sonT - C 23:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Concurrency color coding and Termini in Junction Lists

I've opened a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_U.S._Roads#Concurrency_color_coding_and_Termini_in_Junction_Lists  — master sonT - C 23:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!

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I award Kéiryn the Graphic Designer's Barnstar because of the effort this user has put in to create a few new state highway shields for Washington's old highways. ComputerGuy890100Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 02:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 26 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article U.S. Route 12 in Washington, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 04:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

California postmile

From this source the computer has warn me about clicking on the blue link which might harm my personal computer. I just avoid it becasue I don't understand the message,and once I download, I can get hoax by my computer being crash. Actually when you click those links don't you get messages say"Some files may harm your computer", If I get this message, what suppose I do to avoid crashing my computer?--Freewayguy (talk) 03:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[Milepost] "Each profile breakpoint is identified by the milepost value corresponding to that point on the highway. The milepost values increase from the beginning of a route within a count to the next county line. The milepost values start over again at each county line. Milepost values usually increase from south to north or west to east depending upon the general direction the route follows within the state. The milepost at a given location will remain the same year after year. When a section of road is relocated, new milepost (usually noted by an alphabetical prefix such as "R" or "M") are established for it. If relocation results in a change in length, "milepost equations" are introduced at the end of each relocated portion so that mileposts on the reminder of the route within the county will remain unchanged."

I meant the purple link from that site, when I click on it it gives me a note telling me some files may harm computer, so I'm afraid to see it becasue I don't know the file. If I get those messages what should I do so they wont harm my computer.--Freewayguy (talk) 03:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Because I don't know where you live, and I don't know if you ever been to California before, I thouhgt you have been there.--Freewayguy (talk) 03:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

St. Louis County Road 7

The AFD for St. Louis County Road 7 has closed as a merge result. Nyttend (talk) 14:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


I just wanted to let you know that I did an intermediate update for the Leaderboard. NY 174 passed FA today, so NY was updated. MI has no more stub articles, so that was updated as well. Today's newsletter day, so the leaderboard needs an update again for the rest of the states for the newsletter. Imzadi1979 (talk) 03:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

County roads in St. Louis County, Minnesota

Not that I like articles on roads much but... Good job in merging the individual roads into County roads in St. Louis County, Minnesota! Enjoy! - Nabla (talk) 18:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

M-35 ACR

Thanks for sticking it out with me. It is appreciated. :-) Imzadi1979 (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for closing it out. It feels good to have that concluded. Next stop: FAC! Imzadi1979 (talk) 21:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

History of state highways in Washington

I have created a sandbox version of the article and I invite you to edit it and approve it. You may also move it if you would like. The article is entitled User:ComputerGuy890100/Sandbox/WA SR HIST. ComputerGuy890100Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 03:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


Because History isn't complete enough to justify being counted as "being present", in my opinion. Yes, there is a history, but the first two sentences are merely route description details, and the other two are really about the history of US-2 and WA-41, only tangentially related to ID-41 itself. Even disregarding that, the history section presently only covers a single realignment that happened in 1997 and covers nothing about the early history of ID-41 (such as when it was commissioned and any other major realignments since then). Thus, I don't feel that it falls below the bar set to consider the History section ticked off the checklist, and thus the article isn't up to the B-Class standard. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 20:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, so it does redirect. The inclusion of that information makes more sense now.—Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 20:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 4

Apologies for the late delivery; my internet connection went down halfway through the delivery process.

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Old PSH Maps

We need a better map for PSH 1 and maps for PSH 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 21, and 22. If you could, please do these when you have time. Thanks. ComputerGuy890100Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 17:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I-10/I-20 in Texas

Neither article was hitting the template limits as I was seeing everything fine. I even checked multiple browsers (Firefox, IE, Safari) to see if there was an issue there, but they displayed fine there as well. Not sure what problem you were seeing. --Holderca1 talk 21:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

SR 153

I replied on Talk:Rainbow Boulevard (Las Vegas). --NE2 15:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

By the way, if this was for User:Kéiryn/Unwritten, Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Nevada/completion list should have a full list of routes that have existed, with all three-digit routes marked former if so. Those with shields actually exist; those with FAU/FAS/SAR labels do not; I count 17 current routes without articles (787 was left out). I am currently working on a better list for article space. --NE2 15:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Washington infoboxes

I was only curious. MD has a specialized infobox too. I know that {{infobox road}} can handle the law links and things, but if there's specialized numbering issues in WA, then that's understandable. The thing that's odd to me is that the spur of I-5 is up top where in other states' infobox it's down below the junctions. Imzadi1979 (talk) 03:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

P.S. If you have any comments to add at the M-35 FAC, they'd be appreciated. Imzadi1979 (talk) 03:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

USRD participants list

As discussed at WT:USRD, the participants list at WP:USRD is being split by state. Due to any of the following factors- your extended participation in WT:USRD discussions, your IRC participation, or your extended participation in Shields or Maps, I have guessed that you are a nationwide editor and have designated you as such in the USRD partiicpants table. This is part of the lengthy process. If this is in error, please let me know immediately. This is especially likely with this group as I have to guess whether you are a national or a state editor. Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 22:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


defending the article? Imzadi1979 (talk) 01:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

M-35 FAC

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Thank you for your review and support. M-35 passed its FAC. Imzadi1979 (talk) 02:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


Left a comment on your assessment on the talk page there. Cheers - CL — 23:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Cite Map

Greetings. This change was actually intentional, to bring it in line with the format most of the other citation templates use (aside from Cite news, off the top of my head). Aside from this, have you found any problems? Why is this item a concern? Just curious. Huntster (t@c) 22:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for correcting my spelling and grammar errors. I'm the first to admit I'm a sloppy writer, It takes me a few revisions (like 20) to get things right =-) Dave (talk) 21:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikimapia on New York State Route 25D

That Wikimapia link shows one former section of New York State Route 25D as being separate from the other. Therefore it is reliable. ----DanTD (talk) 02:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The claim is that Nassau Boulevard was converted into service roads for the LIE. What will show that is a pre-LIE map that shows Nassau/Horace Harding Boulevard continuing east from Lakeville Road and west from Little Neck Parkway. --NE2 02:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but some sections of Nassau/Horace Harding were converted into the LIE service roads, while other sections broke away from it. That map was desinged to show a section that broke away, and was integrated into the westbound service road near Lakeville Road. ----DanTD (talk) 10:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't have such easy access to any other map, Kéiryn. I'm down in Florida, and the libraries down here don't exactly have tendencies to specialize in Long Island or New York City history. That WikiMap has the information confirming the changes to the former NY 25D. ----DanTD (talk) 23:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Because you can't draw or add relevant links to Google or Yahoo maps. ----DanTD (talk) 23:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
The drawn items(as well as images) bring emphasis to various geographic locations, so yes, they are reliable. ----DanTD (talk) 23:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Highlighting is exactly what I use WikiMapia for. You're right about one thing, any schlub can say any old road used to be part of NY 25D. The same way any schlub can make any map and say that a road was built a certain way, whether it was or not. For the record, it's not always true that a map can't show former sections of Nassau Boulevard being turned into service roads. Just out of curiosty, have you checked the complete history of this article? If not, I suggest that you do so. ----DanTD (talk) 23:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
The reason I wanted you to check the history was to show you that it was originally copied from a source that had mentioned the conversion to service roads. TwinsMetsFan was the editor who did most of the upgrades on it. While you're right that present day maps can't show the former layout of NY 25D before Long Island Expressway and its service roads replaced them, past maps and accompanying highlighted sections of the surviving road can. ----00:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

That One Bannered Route

Oh, it's 95 miles long? Nobody said anything about that... this is why I hate incomplete stubs. Ugh. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Your "unwritten" list

Under Utah, SR-237, SR-238, SR-239, and SR-288 have all been decommissioned. CL — 01:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. That list comes in handy, it lets me see when new UT articles are created. CL — 07:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
You can also use [6], although that is a little more cluttered :) --NE2 11:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

County Road 44A (Lake County, Florida)

Are you sure that this is 44A and not "44 Leg A"? I can't find any good closeups on Google Street View, but it looks like 44 with some text (presumably "Leg A") below: [7][8] There are also a lot of references to it as such: [9] --NE2 00:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


No problem! In fact, you reminded me that I only got to about SR 25 before I got sidetracked with something else; would you like me to continue to reassess? CL — 18:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I'll go ahead and do so. Here's to implementing C-class! CL — 18:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

A mess of shield template keep messing up the shield template by deliberating false intro by adding state-name specific which terminates over 20 years ago. I had to undo most of the mess he made. OR I thoguht no longer use state-name specific. After I undo the changes he add the state-name specific. For WA I thoguht the interstates is big text numbers. Now MUTCD I thought make neutral shields by big text which is closer to todays.--Freewayguy Call? Fish 03:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Washington State Route 531

Washington State Route 531 has recently passed its GA and is up for A-Class review. According to the article history of the article, you are a contributor to this article. Please leave comments at this link. --CG was here. (T - C - S - E) 17:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


I have responded to your comments at the A-Class review for Washington State Route 531. --CG was here. (T - C - S - E) 18:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Assessment/States (editors)

I'm a little unsure of how you are pulling the # of editors for that column. Looking at the contributors list, I'm pretty sure there are 2-3 editors for Utah listed there, but only one in your stats table. DeFaultRyan (talk) 15:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 5

Apologies for the late delivery; here is the June edition of the newsletter.

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FYI, about ACR and US 491

Keiryn, First thanks for the review. I will get to this, this evening. However I did want to make you aware of something. Per WP:OVERLINK common units of measurement, such as feet and meters, should not be linked. I got dinged for this at my last FAC. That's why I did not link those units. I've got several sources for the Utah section, when I get home tonight I'll source it up =-) Thanks again, Dave (talk) 17:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiWork stats

Hey Keiryn, when do you plan on updating the USRD stats? Just wondering :) CL — 21:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Why yes, today would be perfect :D CL — 21:25, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Washington State Route 531 at PR

Please comment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/Peer review/Washington State Route 531 if possible. Thanks! ~~ ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (tĔώ) 17:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: List of State Routes in New York

It's a test of mine. These are different designations given to bridges, using the designation and adding an X. I may remove them, but I wanna see how it turns out before I do that. If it works, I'll have something no one else has. As per the 9DX and type, its the only way that they can be named. Let's see how it turns out before removing them.Mitch32(UP) 20:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


Kéiryn - I am working on redoing the 405 article, as well its small for what it is and didn't even have a RD. Now, yes, I have one listed on my sandbox now, but it needs a copy edit, but I also have not been back home since they started tearing up the Coal Creek Parkway interchange, and I don't know how its laid out anymore. Could you possibly lend me a hand with that chunk of the RD on my sandbox, and possibly copy edit the RD?



Not a problem. Do you have some sort of script that parses the individual states, and then another one to export the spreadsheet to the wikitable, or do you do it all by hand? I did this one by hand, but can see how a script could speed things up significantly... DeFaultRyan (talk) 16:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

SR 57 (CA)

What's the difference between when a route is signed as a state hgihway and when it was number. Because at SR 57 article it said SR 57 was signed as state highway in 1931 and the number was signed in 1964.--Freewayguy What's up? 03:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

From what I've learnt SR 57 is always SR 57. 1964 was when it was signed, and SR 57 was formerly Diamond Bar Blvd. I know 1964 July 1, was the whole California overnumbering, I think Washington state is too.--Freewayguy What's up? 03:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Utah SR-68

Can you close this ACR? Admrb♉ltz (tclog) 14:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Heh, nice. Hey, did you get a chance to read over my 405 rewrite in my userspace I pinged you about earlier? Admrb♉ltz (tclog) 14:17, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. My only issue is I dont know how the new 405 / Factoria exit looks --Admrb♉ltz (tclog) 14:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Interstate 82

Hello. Sorry to bother you, but I would like your second opinion on Interstate 82. It is currently a GAN and is in need of a second opinion. You may do it any time you would like and all comments would be appreciated. Thank you and have a nice day. ~~ ĈĠ890100Review me! 19:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 6 (FINAL ISSUE)

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Washington State Route 527

Hi. Sorry to bother you again, but I need a photo of WA 527, because I am about ready to nominate it for GA, but there are no photos. So, please take a picture. ~~ ĈĠ Simple? 21:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

New Jersey Route 90

Hello there I am writing up the GA review on New Jersey Route 90 to which you also contributed. Could you help me with a second opinion on the query "Is it broad in coverage" In your humble opinion is it aye or nay? and if nay why? Thank you kind regards SriMesh | talk 03:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)