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This is an archive of old discussions. You may edit this page to fix malformed signatures or to update links, but please direct new comments to my talk page.


Good point, I hadn't been particularly clear on that one. Thanks. Radiant_>|< 08:41, August 6, 2005 (UTC)


Thank you for supporting my RfA. I will do my best to serve the Wikipedia community as an administrator. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:03, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


Whoops! :) Yeah, I reverted father back than the other editor. And yes, you did vote for me, thank you!!! Very much appreciated. :) Functc ) 02:25, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


While I appreciate your concern, the fact is that at this point my continued involvement would merely prove the point that Edwardian was making. Clearly, he and I suffering from a personality conflict, the end result of which would have been my not haivng the wherewithal to continue collaborating just as indicated. I think it's best for me to withdraw, as I did, and let it become a sleeping dog, at least for the time being. siafu 13:43, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for your correction to the "related collaboration" title. Deryck C. 05:45, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

You said you STARTED the MCOTW? Deryck C. 06:02, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)[edit]

Oh, Seeker of Knowledge ... thank you for voting on my RfA, very much appreciated! :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Functce,  ) 18:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)


Hey KS. How are things? I was wondering if you could help me with an image issue. I've been preparing some images for the article I'm working on for H5N1. Hemagglutinin is a pretty important issue, so I've been looking for nice images of it. I found an excellent one on a lab website that, given the way it was displayed and what the text of the fair use policy says, I believed was fair use for a Wikipedia article. Of course, I was hoping for something a little more "free," and thought I'd check at those wonderful open access databases at PubMed. And I found a treasure trove. So I uploaded an image as a .gif file to the same page as the earlier, fair use pic. However, the gif file image quality is poor. Do you mind deleting that page in its entirety? The addy is Image:Hemagglutinin.gif —Encephalon | ζ | Σ 06:55:13, 2005-08-12 (UTC)

Sorry, I should add I've already uploaded a jpg version that's great. You can see it in the Hemagglutinin article.

Yes please, KS. The gif page. all revisions. Thanks!—Encephalon | ζ | Σ 07:27:11, 2005-08-12 (UTC)
KS, so sorry to bug you again. Would it be too much trouble for you to delete the following images which are not required? The last two I will replace with more suitable ones soon. Nothing links to these pages. Image:Asthma screen shot.JPG, Image:Hemagglutinin lateral.jpg, Image:Neuraminidase.jpg. Much thanks—Encephalon | ζ  07:55:57, 2005-08-18 (UTC)
Just orange tagging your page in case you missed this, KS. Tough call nights, or something? Best—Encephalon | ζ 


Hello and thanks for your message. I have explained to the user Edwardian that i do not wish my real name to be shown on here. However, he keeps posting my name on his talk page, so i am forced to keep changing it back. He is the reason that i asked my user name to be changed. I am sorry but everytime he will be writing my real name on his talk page or anywhere else, i will simply keep changing it. So you may want to tell him to stop instead. I will not stop until he understands that he cannot use my real name on here. --etronic 11:32, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Asthma Footnotes[edit]

KS - Got your message. I removed the footnotes because I was just looking for consistency. I understand there to be two styles of annotation - either do inline references, with a footnotes section, or just have a "works cited" section, were all sources are listed alphabetically, like you would see in the Encyclopedia Brittanica. So, I removed the footnotes because I figured we were sticking with the latter format. If we have some inline references, we should have all references, and I feel like that's a bit cumbersome for a Wikipedia article. Let me read up on WP policy and see what the norm is. Mr.Bip 06:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Involuntary Wikivacation[edit]

Thank you very much for your kind words. I've learned from the example of others so many times, it is nice to know someone could take something positive from my style. Yes, I've had to drastically cut back on WP time. I got busted at work a while back. Written counselling statement, the whole nine yards. I won't be here much until I get cable modem at home. Then I'll be skipping sleep to patrol Recent Changes and New Pages.  :-) Again, thank you. Take care. SWAdair | Talk 20:18, 15 August 2005 (UTC)


Hi KS, thanks for the note a while back. I don't get a chance to get on line much, thus the delay in answering you. Regarding SPUI, I saw a polite request you left on his talk page. Can I ask, what was the result? Jennet 04:58, 18 August 2005 (UTC)



I don't think I'd like to be nominated immediately, and I would like to wait one or two weeks and spend some more time before the next nomination. I haven't been very active lately, but I'll spend some time now on VfD's and RC patroling. You can go ahead and nominate me, but after one or two weeks. Thanks. — Stevey7788 (talk) 21:10, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine/Collaboration[edit]

The previous notices placed by individuals onto the 'WikiProject Clinical medicine' page's sections of articles in progress or for peer review all got moved into an archive (hardly makes them current notices). The MCOTW discussion page has discussd having a list of pages at an inbetween stage of development, namely where others are sought, if having a specific interest, to help with a topic. I decided to be bold and create the subpage Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine/Collaboration. Please comment, praise or criticise at will  :-) David Ruben 01:27, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Psychotherapy comment[edit]

Thanks for the kind note and information. I am new at this and still trying to find my way. I am in the middle of writing up an extensive article on the pre-history of psychotherapy that will blend into psychology in America up to William James, and then eventually head on from there. Like I said in my post, I will be putting it on my page for perusal and comments before hand. So, maybe in the near future we will run into each other again. Rsugden 18:08, 20 August 2005 (UTC)


Hello Knowledge Seeker, Im Moe Epsilon. I am sorry for the inappropriate use of the vprotect templete, I didn't know you couldn't protect it. I was trying to protect it from vandals. — Moe ε


hey there, got your message about the MCOTF on carcinogensis. Afraid Ive been away on holiday and sorting out my new place at university. Is the subject now good or does it need more improvement? PhatRita 12:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


Have placed your user page in category physician. Hope you agree. At least those men in white :-) can now find each other. --Nomen Nescio 02:11, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Asthma mortality[edit]

Hey Seeker: there's a mortality stat that you placed in the article (I think) that I can't seem to find a source for. Was wondering if you could find your source and cite it? Thanks bud.—Encephalon | ζ  14:58:42, 2005-09-01 (UTC)

I Didn't Edit Other People's Messages[edit]

I did not edit other people's messages and apparently you just edited out at least three of mine. Return them or I go straight to arbitration (I'm perfectly serious). I've been lied about by Moriori and Raul654 and sent an unsolicited obscene message by DESpiegel, so you picked a VERY bad time to toy with important messages of mine. Felix Frederick Bruyns 06:52, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, I didn't edit anyone else's messages, and one of the messages I wrote was to thank someone, so why would I vandalize his user talk? What ARE you talking about? Felix Frederick Bruyns 06:56, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

A Qualified Apology[edit]

I was completely mistaken about three messages of mine being deleted. One of them is missing, I believe, but the most important one is still in tact. I realize that you had nothing to do with the matter, so I'm sorry for overreacting. At the same time, I REALLY don't know what you're talking about. I am relatively new to Wikipedia, so I might be adding an extra space somewhere, but I have NOT damaged anyone else's messages. I carefully looked at the user talk pages that you listed to see if I had interrupted any words, etcetera, and I had not. This is probably a mutual mistake, but the bottom line is that I haven't damaged anyone else's user talk. As for "picking" fights, if you knew the stories about my battle with Moriori you would realize that he was definitely the aggressor. If there weren't a "no legal threats" policy on Wikipedia he would be in big trouble in the "real world" for slandering me. As for Raul654, I'm currently trying to resolve my conflicts with him. But DESpiegel put an unspeakably obscene message on my user talk page for no apparent reason. I had never had a bad word to say about him, in fact (very ironically), I had just complemented him as one of the "decent" users of Wikipedia. I regretted the rather vicious tone of my first message to you almost immediately (after all, you're not Moriori or DESpiegel) and I changed it just four minutes later. I have no plans to go to arbitration about you, and if I am sending my messages incorrectly out of ignorance I would appreciate some technical Wikipedia advice. Sorry for anything false I said about you. Felix Frederick Bruyns 07:53, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I Was Typing "Enter"[edit]

To be honest, Knowledge Seeker, I thought that I was doing a favor to other users by increasing the space between my messages and their. I was pressing "enter". I'll stop, and by the way, Raul654 and I have been able to communicate, so apparently I haven't been causing serious damage to his user talk, so please modify rather than delete my messages, since they are very important, especially the ones to Raul654. As I told someone else, I'm ignorant but well-intentioned. Thank you. Wait a minute, though, this message looks the same as the others. What am I doing wrong? I'm sure I'm bumbling terribly but I don't know how. Felix Frederick Bruyns 08:16, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I know what you mean[edit]

I didn't really know the guy, I just answered his question on the help desk or somehwere and he thanked me. And then he asked for advice about his (many) conflicts. I told him to cool down. We had some back and forth and he indicated that he had solved his beef with Moriori. Then he exploded and got himself blocked. For now I guess all we can do is stay calm but be clear and firm. Though I'm not inclined to give him too much leeway, as he's made legal threats before. But this is his first block, so let's see if it wakes him up (and doesn't make him worse). I just don't know... Dmcdevit·t 07:30, September 6, 2005 (UTC)


Hi again Knowledge Seeker. I am Moe Epsilon. I have a question for you. I was messing around in my preferances and I changed the password and now I dont remember what the password is anymore! What do I do? PLEASE respond on the Moe Epsilon talk page.

OK thank you, I was e-mailed a new password, thanks again !!! — Moe ε 00:58, 8 September 2005 (UTC)


Harry Potter is a reporter on the CH10 news. [Nengli02 (talk · contribs)]

re your comment[edit]

thx for your caution re 3RR:

I am talking it out with the major participants: the Fac editor, Mark aka Raul654 and Taxman, the recent reverter.

PS: We need help at both Talk:Terri_Schiavo and Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Terri_Schiavo -I kbnow you must be busy as a doctor and all, but time-sensitive VOTES are occurring -please stop by both places and VOTE; Thx--GordonWattsDotCom 09:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)


Seeker, just a heads up in case you haven't heard. DR has just been discharged from hospital; was in the ICU, so sounds like it was serious.—encephalonὲγκέφαλον  01:08:44, 2005-09-13 (UTC)


Dear Knowledge Seeker,

Hello, It’s Moe Epsilon. I have contacted you about me leaving Wikipedia. This is a decision I do not favor but there are too many vandals and thickheaded people on Wikipedia for me to care anymore. I feel there is nothing I can give on Wikipedia that someone won’t criticize. I don’t feel any appreciation for what I have done. I thought if I could make any kind of an impact, I would. I wrote this to you because I was going to contact the nicest users I had talked to over my period on Wikipedia. Thank you for making my stay on Wikipedia a little better. — Moe ε

Re: Barnstars[edit]

Two days ago, see: User_talk:Boothy443#My_RFA, means comment or comments in Irish. --Boothy443 | comhrá 05:29, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Just curious whats you speciality, and i assume you at mayo, being in rochester. --Boothy443 | comhrá 08:41, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Interesting. --Boothy443 | comhrá 09:07, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

Thanks K.S. I would like some advice...

  • I have found a Hubble Classification chart for Hubble Sequence, that would look cooler & gives a better look. But I don't want to change the picture & have people get mad @ me, is there a Talk or some way I can tell my idea and see if they like it. Same thing goes with the Dire Wolf pictures I uploaded. somone keeps erasing them out of the artical, is there a talk I can say my ideas to. Same thing for other other articals. & how do I get on to a Talk.
  • How do you get that signature on after your post. Do you write that, or is it something that you can put on?

Thanks - Hurricane Devon

Re: Newest Articles[edit]

Thanks for answering my question, and congrats on becoming a doctor. Rentastrawberry 01:45, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Personal attack[edit]

Oddly enough, while I was thinking yesterday I contemplated leaving a note updating you on my opinion on this matter. In hindsight I had realized that this was not a personal attack. I think I was just a bit gung ho in defending an editor who gets a lot of hostility (deserved or not) from other users. Anyway, I appreciate your response, even if it is a little belated. =) -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 02:33, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


Hi, Knowledge Seeker. Is User:KnowledgeLoser really a sock puppet of your, or merely a troll who needs blocking? Please see the userpage. Regards, Bishonen | talk 12:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Looks like a troll to me. Blocked indefinitely, and added {{Impostor|Knowledge Seeker}} to it. Feel free to unblock if you think the block is inappropriate, its your username after all. Happy editing! -- Chris 73 Talk 14:34, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Hehe—thanks, Bishonen and Chris, for your sharp eyes. I did find it pretty amusing, though. It looks like User:Iasson was upset that I blocked User:Bank Able today. At least this was more creative than the tired old user-page vandalism. And this is my first real impostor! — Knowledge Seeker 05:16, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I also still remember fondly my first impostor User:Chris 73 sucks. It's like Coming of age for admins. Now you're truly one of us ;) -- Chris 73 Talk 11:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)


Came across this mention in a blog; thought you might be interested. — Knowledge Seeker 01:55, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the cerebellum MindHacks link: I loved that book and was extremely pleased to see something I helped write referenced on their site. I keep running into you and encephalon around. What's your field within medicine? Semiconscious (talk · home) 03:27, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Wow, I didn't know the book was that meaningful to you; now I'm especially glad I came across their blog. Yes, I'm glad to keep encountering you, and I'm especially glad you are helping to improve the neuroscience/neuroanatomy articles on Wikipedia. I'm an internal medicine doctor. Residency's keeping me busy, but there are so many Wikipedia articles that could be expanded or written! — Knowledge Seeker 05:24, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Image:ChicagoWinter1.jpg[edit]

Just saw your picture of Lincoln Park in the winter. I recently moved from Chicago to a small city in Minnesota. There are many aspects of Chicago I was happy to leave behind: the traffic, the lack of parking, and so on. And yet I do miss it as well. Seeing your photograph definitely made me feel a bit homesick—in a good way. So I thought I'd pop by and say thanks. — Knowledge Seeker 04:20, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I was a little uncertain about uploading that photo, but now I'm glad that I did. It was taken during my first winter in Chicago, so it makes me feel a little bit nostalgic for the time when everything here was new to me and I hadn't got sick of getting parking tickets every time the street cleaning comes around.  :-) JeremyA (talk) 04:33, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh man, I used to dread those orange signs. I think I would have rather the streets just remain dirty! — Knowledge Seeker 07:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

editing my user page[edit]

Hi, Bluemoose. I edited your user page (and on de:, too). Feel free to change them back if you preferred the old version. Mainly it was changing external links to wikilinks (and adding interwikis), and I also added a Babel template on your German page to indicate that you don't speak German (I have the same on my German page). Hope you don't mind me intruding! — Knowledge Seeker 03:05, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Thats fine, thanks for letting me know! Martin 08:50, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

User page vandalism[edit]

There was a little vandalism to your page today. Thought you might want to know. See you around. Psy guy (talk) 20:46, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of my user page! To tell the truth, I'd rather vandals take out their frustration on my user page and leave articles alone. If it happens again, you don't have to tell me; in general you can assume you have permission to revert vandalism to people's user page (and I have my page on my watchlist, as do most people I believe). Again, thanks, and I appreciate your vigilance! — Knowledge Seeker 08:10, 24 September 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for the signature thingy. I got it now. And is there a way for me to delete Images (That I Uploaded). If they wont put them on the artical, I dont want to wast space. Thanks! -- Hurricane Devon (Talk) 15:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

There are several ways to do it; the standard way would be to nominate it on Wikipedia:Images for deletion. Or, if there is an administrator with whom you are friends, you can just ask him or her. I just happen to be one of those. Nominating for deletion is fine, but for simple cases like this it is a waste of time for people to vote on it and for an administrator to close the discussion and so on. Just let me know on my talk page which images you no longer need. You can refer to them with links in this manner: [[:Image:Gonda building, closer up.jpg]] which gives Image:Gonda building, closer up.jpg. The preceding colon is important; otherwise you'll put the image itself in your comment. Any other questions? Just ask! — Knowledge Seeker 08:18, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Is it possible for you to stop naming any sockpuppet you discover around as my sockpuppet?[edit]

In case its IP profile matches mine, it is probably User:Faethon and his friends. Please stop false accusations. I have never used any alternative account. -- Iasson.

Dont bother about this guy. He is well known to all wikipedians as a virtual blocker and a user with secret agenda. Just ignore him. Fff 09:20, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support, Fff, but Iasson doesn't really bother me. I'm not really sure he has a secret agenda; I think it he just has some strong ideas and is misunderstood. It is a shame that we were not able to convince him to change his ways before his Arbitration Committee case. — Knowledge Seeker 16:34, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


Roman Emperor (Dominate) needs a cleanup - the lead section definitely - but I don't know what tag to add! How do we sort this out? - 08:32, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, there are several options. If you are familiar with the subject, you may fix it up yourself—just click the "edit this page" tab at the top of the article! Or, you may make suggestions on the talk page. I can't really give you specific suggestions because I am not familiar with the subject (and after reading the introduction myself, I don't really understand what it's talking about or what a "Roman Emperor (Dominate)" is). There's always the generic {{cleanup}} tag which you can stick on the article. Or, you may with to peruse the Cleanup Taskforce and find a member with expertise in this area. Let me know if these suggestions helped, or if you would like further advice. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker 06:38, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Wait, if you're who I think you are, why are you asking me? — Knowledge Seeker 06:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Who do you think I am? besides... the cleanup is a bit confusing and I haven't used it in a long while. You were listed as an expert in cleanup, so I figured you could assist. - 07:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Certainly, I'd be happy to assist—the process is a bit tricky but it looks like they're trying a new approach at WP:CT#Alternate streamlined procedure. You'll also want to find someone with expertise in this area; you can find the members at Wikipedia:Cleanup Taskforce/Members (my areas of expertise are medicine and Star Trek, which is why I didn't realize you were soliciting my help as a member of the WP:CT. If those steps are confusing I'll be happy to take you through them—just let me know! — Knowledge Seeker 06:29, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


Hello, I thought the message was appropriate, as it was appearing on another administrator’s user page, namely, User:Hemanshu. It appears that the notice is not appropriate as suggested by you. Accordingly, I am removing the same. Thanks for the suggestion. --Bhadani 13:50, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I created a stub Amber Fort, and took an image from your user page. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:20, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, I think that if you like it, the template is mostly appropriate, although as I said, I feel that any notices like that should direct the concerned party to the administrator's talk page. Too often people run off to WP:AN/I to complain without even attempting to first discuss matters with the administrator. In any case, it is up to you. And thanks for creating Amber Fort—great start!—and for using my picture. The buildings there are beautiful, and it's impossible to capture it on film (or memory cards). One cannot even photograph more than a small bit of a room, such as the ceiling or a wall, so it is very hard to do it justice. I was proud of how that photograph turned out, although it only hints at the splendor of the real thing. — Knowledge Seeker 06:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


Hi: My name is Tess and I work for a global independent research firm in New York. I am interested in hiring you for a Wikipedia editing project, based on your technology and medical experience and expertise. I attempted to email you through your user page. If you received it, please read it over and contact me with any questions. If you did not receive this email, please let me know and I would be more than happy to tell you more about this project. (You can call 512-651-1797 or email Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon! Tess - Gerson Lehrman Group 19:25, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind offer, Wikitess. I have replied via e-mail. — Knowledge Seeker 06:51, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

of course[edit]

Your comments to User:El C and User:Mirv are not appropriate for Wikipedia. We are a community working to build an encyclopedia. You are welcome to join us, but please treat other editors with courtesy and respect. The comments you have left other users are not productive; if you have a specific complaint against someone you are free to discuss it with them (politely). If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me on my talk page. — Knowledge Seeker 06:48, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

OF COURSE you decide to censor me and remove those comments...because you love the hippies and hate me...anyway I won't revert you becuse that would take more out of my time...--Anti-Communist 06:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I did not censor you, nor did I remove any of your comments. Please do not make inflammatory accusations. I am not certain what relevance the hippies have, but I certainly do not hate you. Please don't take criticism personally, and please don't criticize in this manner either. We can discuss or argue politely, without resorting to personal attacks. I am happy to help you out and answer your questions but you must modify your attitude toward other editors. — Knowledge Seeker 06:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I hate Communists that's all I CANNOT tolerate them! (and those Hippie peace protesters)--Anti-Communist 03:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Your dislike of Communists is not relevant (unless you are disclosing a potential bias). You are welcome to edit Wikipedia but the neutral point of view is one of our founding concepts. In addition, you must treat all editors here with respect, regardless of your views on their philosophies. If you cannot tolerate working with those who share different political or economic beliefs, then I am afraid Wikipedia is probably not the place for you; however, I hope you are able to overcome any prejudices you may have and join with us to make a better encyclopedia. Please refrain from making any further statements of hatred towards other classes of people. — Knowledge Seeker 06:59, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Color AfD's[edit]

Hi. The mass of colors we voted on before has been undeleted and relisted as individual AfD's. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 01:13, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me, BD2412, and for your hard work in tallying the votes. I will take a look at the AfD's. — Knowledge Seeker 07:03, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

California Highway System[edit]

71Demon, I don't believe your nomination of this article for deletion was appropriate. Nominating something for deletion should not be used to draw attention to in article, in my opinion—one shouldn't nominate something for deletion if one does not actually believe it should be deleted. Please keep this in mind in the future. Feel free to ask me any questions on my talk page. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker 06:13, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I disagree. I felt part of the article should be deleted. Wiki doesn't see to have a split this article or change this article entry that I could find after doing a search. The AFD was appropriate in the instance because I felt that sections of the article should be delete, and replaced with a template to make navigation easier. Now the people in the discussion expressed some valid points, that partially changed my opinion. They are discussing making changes to make the page load faster. The Wikify entry wouldn't have been appropriate either, and Wiki had determined it was oversize. --71Demon 06:22, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
To split an article or change part of it does not require any formal process; rather, one should bring it up on the article's discussion page, or for simple or uncontroversial changes, do it oneself. AfD is reserved for cases when one feels the article itself should be deleted. Please don't use the AfD process like this in the future. — Knowledge Seeker 07:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
So following this principal, on the California Highways I should just go in and delete the listing and replace it with a grided box showing the numbers. I would do this because to me it is logical, easy to navigate, and non-controversial. 90% of the editors don't read the discussion page anyway, and when I go in and read them the majority never have responses after and extended period of time. The discussion board doesn't work well. The California Highways is a perfect of example of why it doesn't work well, hit the edit link and it tells you right off that it was too long, and people were ignoring it. The AFD is the best choice if you need to have serious discussion about deleting or spliting a large thread that may cause controversy, I expected there would be controversy and there was confirming I was right to use afd to create discussion. I will encourage others to use it in that mannor until something like article for modification is created. --71Demon 14:33, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Minneapolis meetup[edit]

Hello Knowledge Seeker. I'm contacting you since you are listed at Category:Wikipedians in Minnesota. I'm going to be at a conference in Minneapolis and am plannnig a Wikipedia meetup for October 8. If you are near Minneapolis at that time, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Minneapolis. Angela. 20:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind invitation. Replied at Wikipedia:Meetup/Minneapolis. — Knowledge Seeker 04:06, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Image help![edit]

Knowledge Seeker. Wikipedians like my image on HD 28185 b. But it's copyrighted. They say something about a special tag. Could you help me understand tags. — Hurricane Devon (Talk) 22:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, while I like that picture, I don't think Wikipedia will be able to use it. Could you point me to where you read about the special tag so I can take a look? — Knowledge Seeker 04:10, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Brain Teasers:[edit]

Hi, I'm just posting a friendly notice stating that I have got Brain Teasers on my user page that you're welcome to have a go at. Will post new questions one day after they have been answered. Thanks... Spawn Man 05:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup Taskforce[edit]

I don't know how often you check your desk at the cleanup taskforce but I just added the article H5N1 as a second article because you have listed an interest in Medicine. If you choose to accept this assignment we will deny all knowledge of the secretary's involvement... This message will self destruct... (LOL!) (let me know if you don't want this article, I'm new at try to assign articles). RJFJR 00:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

It's on my watchlist, so I see changes. I'll gladly work on H5N1; realize that I'm on a bit of a wikibreak right now so it'll be slow progress. I'm still around, but have had to significantly curtail my time on Wikipedia, but I'm still lurking in the corner. — Knowledge Seeker 04:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the H5N1 article. I understand wiki-breaks. I was on wiki-sickleave for a while. RJFJR 05:15, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


Am I paranoid, or is it interesting that once he finds himself arguing with 2.5 Indians (I'm guessing from the pic you used to have up), he's suddenly attacking people's religion, and making accusations of racism? Ok, let me rephrase that, I am paranoid...but does his comments seem curious nonetheless? Guettarda 04:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

To tell the truth, I'm not sure what to think. I was pretty shocked to hear him say all that. It'll be hard to take him seriously after this. I'm not sure what he hoped to accomplish by this tirade. — Knowledge Seeker 05:10, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

He started off as a bit of a troll, but he seemed to settle down. He always seemed earnest and well-intentioned, if a little misled, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Graft and he had long conversations about the meaning of life or something - which is why it seems all the more wrong to throw something like that back into someone's face when it came out in the first place because Salva asked Graft his thoughts on these questions. If I hadn't been so personally insulted I might have blocked him for 12 hours for personal attacks, but I'm far from impartial here. Guettarda 05:16, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[Re: civility][edit]

Salva, the comments you made at Talk:Evolution are highly inappropriate. Please treat other editors with civility and respect. We can politely disagree on matters and discuss them rationally. Personal attacks such as the ones you made have no place on Wikipedia. Those attributes are irrelevant; what matters is the content of what people say. Statements such as those will significantly reduce your credibility. Finally, please do not remove others' comments. — Knowledge Seeker 04:48, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I was not responsible for removing anyone's comments. And when was the last time a creationist was taken seriously by anyone on the evolution page? Please refer to User talk:Guettarda, and perhaps you will come to understand my frustration. Salva 05:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
"And when was the last time a creationist was taken seriously by anyone on the evolution page?"
I take it these comments are supposed to be taken seriously? Aaarrrggh 08:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Salva, I was referring to this edit of yours which removed one of Guettarda's comments. I am not sure how this could be done without intent; however, I will assume it was inadvertant. You are correct; it is sometimes hard to take seriously people who still believe that different species were created suddenly and individually. Yet at least I have always taken you seriously, have I not? And I've seen others patiently explain to you why certain edits or sentences do or do not belong in Evolution. Frustration is no excuse for making the sort of comments you did. Those type of comments never belong on Wikipedia. Please remain civil and courteous with other users. — Knowledge Seeker 06:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I am profoundly sorry. This is going to sound completely ridiculous - I did NOT post those back onto the Talk:Evolution page. I would swear on the Bible if neccessary. I don't have the slightest clue what's going on, except I recall reading some edits by User:Ungtss last spring in which he stated that someone was tinkering with his reputation on Wikipedia by naming sites after him or something? I do know that both he and I had similar viewpoints about most of the issues dealing with creationism. This may be difficult for you to believe given my recent irresponsible outburst towards Graft, but I believe someone has compromised the security of my login and used my name to post messages. If you don't want to believe me, then Ok, but I don't know what else to tell you. It really hurts my trust for Wikipedia. Perhaps I will be forced to make a new user name for myself. Well, no matter. The world is full of cowards and imbeciles, and I'm sure Wikipedia has its share of them as well. Again, my apologies. Salva 16:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't doubt your sincerity, but I am a bit confused. Which comments on Talk:Evolution are you referring to? The only recent objectionable ones I remember are the ones to Graft, which it appears you acknowledge making, right? — Knowledge Seeker 07:03, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
No, I don't deny any of what I said to Graft, and as I said before - it was spoken out of frustration. Subsequently, Guettarda continued to patronize me long after I had made amends with Graft, judging that my comments were a result of hate (untrue.) Furthermore, he made assumptions that I was a white supremist (odd, since I happen to be of mixed Kenyan/European origins, but he didn't know that,) and ignored an apology and offer of truce. This little scrap evolved into a full-blown Left vs. Right political debate, until Guettarda discontinued his rebutals, dismissing my own responses as "hate speech." This tactic happens to be a highly common tuck-tail-and-run strategy of the beaten Left-winger, so I continued to chastize Guettarda by referring to him as "comrade Guettarda," a fairly accurate label given his political orientations.
I appreciate your empathy and your mediation. If you want to block me, fine. I will be leaving Wikipedia for a long while (nine weeks, at the very least.) I have no further quarrel with cowardly bigots like Guettarda who seize every opportunity to turn everything into a race-hate argument then run before a means to an end is in sight.
I'm not sure exactly what happened last on the Talk:Evolution page - after viewing your link, I was surprised to find that my statements towards Graft had been reverted under my own name. I don't know how this happened - because I wasn't even at my computer when the comments were reverted. The only explanation that I could formulate was that someone had hacked into my username and posted the comments. That's why I changed to MedCorpman. I'm sure you, as a fellow Wikipedian, would also be frustrated to have to completely start over. I have no trust for internet security, so in my paranoia the change was made, and I haven't had any problems since. MedCorpman 17:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Salva/MedCorpman, I don't understand why you can't refrain from insulting him when in your comments. There are several users on Wikipedia whom I'm not particularly fond of, and I try to avoid them if possible; if I do encounter them, I try to treat them with respect—even to vandals I use politeness. I have no particular desire to block you, but if upon your return you continue this behavior, someone will surely block you. I still don't understand your confusion on Talk:Evolution—the link I provides showing you removing User:Guettarda's comments, not yours. Regardless, it doesn't much matter now. I am sure you can use either Salva31 or MedCorpman, whichever you please. Good luck on your training, and be sure to avoid Ship 51 or 39 or whatever it was called. — Knowledge Seeker 06:36, 31 October 2005 (UTC)