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Thank you for the advice. I should have been more precise in my edit summary, you are right. Janfrie1988 (talk) 18:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

The headings[edit]

Thanks, didn't know that! Silly, though :). Aregakn (talk) 19:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Rap-up - how reliable?[edit]

how reliable a source is Rap-Up in your experience? Currently an issue at Recovery (Eminem album). I remember they sometimes get things wrong, e.g. when they recently declared Rihanna's "Rockstar 101" a single, but so did MTV, so it might not have been their fault. The only time Rap-Up was discussed at the RNS it was called reliable. What's your experience/opinion (or what do your stalkers think)?
Amalthea 22:03, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


Hello Kevin, I did as you advised us and wrote a nice sized explanation on his talk page, something GenieOFbritney did as well. This user did not even bother responding to our explanations, making it impossible to try and reason with him. Please take action, he continues to vandalize Britney Spears pages by adding a fansite as her Official Record or Bio site. Please help.--PeterGriffinTalk 03:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the moment your protections diminished he went to the pages and replaced the current revision with the LiveNation source, and replaced it with the BS Weekly source which we discussed. As you can see here, we have both made attempts to reason with him as you advised us. He however, has not responded or made any attempt to fix the problem, he just blindly reverts the changes you warned about.--PeterGriffinTalk 03:22, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Kevin, I appreciate it.--PeterGriffinTalk 03:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Alright Kevin, my mistake. I seem to sometimes forget vandalism is the intent of causing damage to Wikipedia. I would also like to ask your opinion on the problems we have been having with the sources. Which one do you deem more reliable?--PeterGriffinTalk 04:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I really don't understand how you could side with a fansite over a major ticket sales site. While LiveNation may not be Reuters, it's not a fansite that Iv'e never heard of being a fan of Britney Spears. And about the lower numbers, I don't see a reason to believe lower figures especially if your not familiar with the artist. Thanks anyway.--PeterGriffinTalk 11:21, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I understand where your coming from, but I would definitely trust LiveNation versus Amazon, and especially against a fansite.--PeterGriffinTalk 16:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Turn It Up (Pixie Lott album)[edit]

Hey, thank you so much for protecting the page. Things were getting rather annoying. SnapSnap 21:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


Can you explain me how the Scottish chart is a subset of UK charts? If it is a real chart, then shouldn't it be noted in WP:GOODCHARTS? --Legolas (talk2me) 03:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. I get your point. Then we should have a discussion at WP:CHARTS, because the subset thing sounds like someone sating that France and Germany are a subset of the Eurochart Hot 100 Singles. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:46, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


Thoughts?xenotalk 23:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


Responding to your note about adding Eurochart Top 100 to articles like Rude Boy (song): No, it doesn't look especially reliable to me (domain seems to be named for the guy, Olaf, who runs it...), but I added it to Rude Boy because of the confusion between what turned out to be two different European charts. WP seems to accept the name Eurochart, so I gathered it had some history. In fact, both Eurochart Hot 100 Singles and Eurochart Hot 100 as previously shown on that article redirect to European Hot 100 Singles, which (in the lede, at least) is the Billboard chart. The ref link for that line went to BB, so I went to find out if there was a non-BB "Eurochart" in existence, or it was just another name for the same chart. That's when I found the OLJO site.

I see there was some Charts confusion earlier (2007-08), but it didn't appear to resolve my questions. Do you think that "Eurochart" is an obsolete moniker for BB's good chart? Or was it always an unreliable source? And: should it be added to BADCHARTS?

Looking at European Hot 100 Singles, I see several "Eurocharts" mentioned in the History section. I frankly can't tell what it's all supposed to mean. It ends with a crippled sentence that hints that... well, I still can't tell.

In future, I can just quash anything claiming to be "Eurochart", and if it appears to be pointing to Bilboard's European Hot 100 I can rename the label. How does that strike you? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 11:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


Hi, I have replied to your comment here. If a comment made in the administrators' noticeboard is enough suspicion to request a check; then any new user can be checked in case they are a banned user. I am neither of those two users. If it's about checking they are using another sock, good..., them and their sock should be checked to see if my name comes up. But there is absolutly no reason to brake my privacy by directly checking me. I already explained that I have been using this account and not my primary account so that my primary account is not associated with controversial subjects. I have all the rights in the world to do that and this regardless of the likings of Grandmaster. If a CU is run with my name, I will complain to the owner of Wikipedia. I have already said that I will stop contributing in the administrators' noticeboard. I was even not contributing in those controversial articles anyway. Ionidasz (talk) 16:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I'd appreciate you reply to this: there's reasonable suspicion that Ionidasz is Hetoum I, you're an administrator and your words may have an influence in the Clerk decision. If there is a reasonable suspicion I'd like to know on what this sitatment is based on. Tks. Ionidasz (talk) 18:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

your help[edit]

thank you for the help will fixLoquesoy (talk) 04:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Image Issues[edit]

Hi Kevin. How are you doing? I was just wondering if you could resolve the image issues at [1]. Basically the image needs renaming and secondly the previous versions of the image need to be removed. Thank you. Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Lil-unique1 (talk) 01:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Gilbert Lapointe[edit]

No problem. The only reason I noticed was because I found User:Max lalonde. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 15:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


Since you're familiar with this user, I thought you may be interested in reviewing Rcababyjane (talk · contribs). Account was created after the last Brexx sock, Trullllyrate (talk · contribs), was blocked. — ξxplicit 19:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I must have gotten distracted by all my new admin buttons. No particular doubt in my mind.—Kww(talk) 19:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:RIAA Diamond award albums[edit]

I have nominated Category:RIAA Diamond award albums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Albums certified diamond by the Recording Industry Association of America (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. — ξxplicit 02:34, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit]

Jivesh has come a long way since his blocks, and I've been trying to impress the importance of sources and good edit summaries on him. It would be nice if we could avoid edits like this one, where you reverted him without explanation. It's hard for him to figure out why his edit had problems if no explanation is given, and that leads to him reverting to edit-warring.—Kww(talk) 16:49, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. I had explained the reason for my edit in my edit summary yesterday when I reverted him, but he either ignored it or hadn't seen it. Orane (talk) 17:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


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I'm pretty certain it's the Nimbley6 troll. There's a community ban in place, but blocking is only ever a temporary measure - they have a dynamic IP address, and a range block would be too broad (their ISP is, I believe Opal Telecom, part of Carphone Warehouse, a major UK telco).

Cheers, TFOWRThis flag once was red 22:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Now that Holywood56 is blocked, is there anything I can help with by way of clean-up? I've been back on Wikipedia for 2/3 weeks or so, and I've been monitoring their edits since then, but the latest sock-puppet account has been active since at least December so there's plenty I've not looked at. Cheers (and thanks for blocking them - I was hoping it wouldn't be necessary but I agree with the decision). TFOWRThis flag once was red 11:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC) TFOWRThis flag once was red 14:32, 10 May 2010 (UTC) Resigning after comment edited.

Your edit summary at WP:NOT ...[edit]

... made me follow your link, wonder what could possibly be offensive about the pictures, read the article more closely, and then wonder: Could this be an exception to xkcd's Rule 34? No, it turns out that it isn't. Hans Adler 15:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


Found one User talk:Theuhohreo, messing with Nicki Minaj and her template. Candyo32 (talk) 21:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Oops my bad. Seemed like the same qualities. Alright, thanks. Candyo32 (talk) 21:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katy Perry's 2010 album[edit]

Hi there. There's been a development regarding Katy Perry's 2010 album, which you nominated for deletion. Recently, its title was apparently made public and Alexshunn (talk · contribs) created a new page by that name, Teenage Dream, made the page you nominated for deletion a redirect, and copy/pasted basically everything from Katy Perry's 2010 album at Teenage Dream. Thought you should know. Cliff smith talk 00:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi.. (regarding User:A Nobody)[edit]

Hi Kww, I just want to touch base here, regarding the A Nobody thing. There were concerns about A Nobody's editing, which led to a WP:RfArb case being filed in which he was named as an involved party. However, A Nobody was having health issues, which of course, would eliminate any participation he might have during the case. However, people were concerned that he was using the health issues to get out of any possible consequences for his editing. To remedy these concerns, I placed a technical block on the account, that, when and if he returned to editing (by submitting an unblock request), that we would be notified and would proceed with the Arbitration case at that time.

As I said when announcing it on the ArbCom Noticeboard talk page:

As a measure to relieve the bickering and to restore the status quo, I have placed a block on A Nobody's account until such time if and when he wishes to return, at which time, the Arbitration Case previously opened will become active.

I cannot stress enough that this block is ONLY to enforce the situation regarding the Arbitration Case, and is NOT pre-judging or judging (or even post-judging!) of A Nobody's behavior. Any administrator who sees that A Nobody has returned and wishes to participate in the Arbitration Committee case should quickly unblock him and notify the Committee via email that we may proceed.

So, the block is only a technical measure, and not a response to his editing, per se. Thus, attempting to classify him as a Banned user (under any such reading of the policy) is premature, and unwarranted. I hope this makes things a bit clearer... SirFozzie (talk) 03:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Teenage Dream[edit]

What is going on with Bill Kaulitz's page?[edit]

Can somebody explain to me why someone is deleting Bill Kaulitz's page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rurururu (talkcontribs) 20:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

My request was in the wrong place, but it wasn't malformed!--Light for JC (talk) 04:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC) Light for JC

And how can huggle be virtually useless ,you can revert edits in seconds, and with other tactics that is not possible.--Light for JC (talk) 04:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Light for JC

A short greeting[edit]

...and congratulations!  :) I had no idea the admin thing happened, because I've been pretty much off-Wiki since earlier this year (you know, real life just has to get in the way), although I still monitor my watchlist fairly frequently...which lead to this discovery. Anyway, good luck on your future endeavours, and use your power well.  ;) SKS (talk) 06:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Genieofmusic again[edit]

Hey Kevin, Genie has once again changed all the pages back to the blog without trying to discuss it with us again. He doesn't seem to care, he's doing the same thing you warned him about. Please help, thanks.--PeterGriffinTalk 20:56, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Kevin!:)--PeterGriffinTalk 21:00, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Something's rearing its head again: Brazil charts[edit]

I thought we were in agreement that Crawley Radio systems publish the official top 5 weekly airplay chart as shown here in english and here in its original form in portugese and mariah carey's website also makes the same claims here. what do you think? Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:05, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I'll revert myself.—Kww(talk) 00:06, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
should this be added to WP:GOODCHARTS with a note about using a manual archive such as WebCite? Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:21, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I think a section for unarchived but otherwise legitimate charts needs to go somewhere. I'm not sure WP:GOODCHARTS is the right place.—Kww(talk) 00:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps (although im not keep on it) WP:record charts needs a new section: Unarchived Charts? with the shortcut ... WP:UCHARTS? Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of...[edit]

...rearing its head: Live Like There's No Tomorrow. Check the history. Groeten, Drmies (talk) 03:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Regarding recent edit on Nelly Furtado's page.[edit]

I understand why you've undid my edit. It was unsourced...obviously haha. I forgot to add the source as to where I found the information. I was watching a YouTube video about Game (rapper) briefly talking about his new album which is titled The R.E.D. Album. So I thought I'd give out that information to people who haven't seen or heard about any of it.
This link below is to the video I was watching.
Game on Working with Nelly Furtado and DJ Premier
But before I continue, would this really be a reliable source?
Sorry for any inconveniences.
Thanks, Gariseiro (talk) 07:23, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Note from talk page stalker: we generally don't consider YouTube to be a reliable source. Drmies (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

User:CharlieJS13 again[edit]

Hi, Charlie come back attacking me again as the IP (which come from London too) with harassment -> here</span] What can I do? Thanks. TbhotchTalk C. 23:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

IP blocked for a week, all edits reverted.—Kww(talk) 02:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. TbhotchTalk C. 02:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Your Betrayal[edit]

why did u take out the Your Betrayal wiki page? The song has to have a page. It's charted in the US and UK. (talk) 20:35, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

It hadn't when I removed it. If you have sources for the charting, feel free to undo the redirection and add the chart information.—Kww(talk) 20:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)


I'm so glad to see that your RfA passed with flying colors. Now I know where to go when the Xtinadabest pops back up. :) Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Never. I can't image that person giving up now. Actually, I tagged a user page as a possible, although it wasn't that clear. The pages edited didn't seem to jive. See User:Aimeerocks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh I know. That's why I didn't take it further. The person didn't seem to come back after I tagged the page, even to object, so I left it tagged, but not reported. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

List of The Suite Life on Deck episodes protection[edit]

Thank you. That should make my life easier. --AussieLegend (talk) 00:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Quick heads-up[edit]

Remember what happened to AMIB. Don't let yourself get baited. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


Found only "We could be the same"s reference, "Dünyanın sonuna doğmuşum"s reference is edited in the turkish vikipedi, the Turkish and the Russian charts are all correct, but it's really hard to find a reference for the others that i didn't mention, at least for now. --Triancula (talk) 22:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Soulja Boy[edit]

Hey Kww, I was going to revert you, but I'd rather just discuss. Please see sales. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 00:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I moved your response from my talk page to sales as it pertains to more users than just you and I. I'll reply over there. Hopefully you don't object—if you do, feel free to go ahead and revert me. -M.Nelson (talk) 01:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Gaga articles[edit]

Thanks for your expertise on the Lady Gaga sockpuppet actions. One thing, looking at CharlieJS's contributions, he is again a scok of banned User:Dance-pop. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:42, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Yep. He/She did and was one reason I was able to catch its so many sockpuppets. The same kind of ongoing changing the articles without consensus was typical of Dance-pop's disruptive edits and so was harassing other users. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:19, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


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Just a heads up that a heated edit warring might start over the removal of a false tracklist from the article. At present it has something called US Promo CD - the REmixes, added by User:Ryulong (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) who insisted on adding it as it was sourced to Amazon. But the release is most certainly a bootleg, as it was released to Amazon by bunch of Gaga fans and not by Interscope/Cherry Tree/Universal. I believe that it should be speedil;y removed, but User:Ryulong has a habit of edit warring, hence wanted to give you a heads up that your broomstick might be required. --Legolas (talk2me) 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I can barely keep track anymore but...[edit]

Do these seem like the same person to you?

The editing styles are similar and a lot of similar articles. Think a checkuser may be needed? I can't help but think its all tied into the User:RyanG222 / User:TheMentalist456 mess. - eo (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Its strange you should say that Ericorbit, User:Mister sparky also posed the same question. I wasn't to sure about Sllewellyn because although he/she edits same articles as RyanG222 his edits seem to be on the whole, useful or credible.Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Sllewellyn does have his moments of disruption; I have had some problems with his edits in the past, particularly with constantly tweaking tables and inserting "TBA" wherever he can. That said, these others are suspicious and quite frankly, I wish there was a way to round ALL of this stuff up and establish them as the same user. User:RyanG222 to me could possibly be User:TheMentalist456 who in turn could also be User:Greenock125 (see here, where one of Greenock's socks has "Ryan" in his User Name. It's exhausting to try to find them all and I fear a range block may affect too many unrelated editors. - eo (talk) 12:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Am i not correct in thinking that Checkuser confirmed TheMentalist456 was a sockpuppet of RyanG222? there could be enough information and cause for a full checkuser investigation? –Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there's any question now[edit]

The checkuser results are still pending but there's a backlog so who knows when this will be resolved. However, more macro editing (supposedly WeedDJ is "new" as of only 5 days ago so use of these is suspect) [2] [3] — also here [4] he is making identical edits as he did when using RyanG222 [5]. - eo (talk) 16:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Mexican "Sales certificates" table[edit]

Hello, Kevin,

I was trying to fix up the AMPROFON article the other day after I noticed the English needed some work. Then I started looking at the certs table showing current and historical threshold levels. Unsatisfied, I tried to improve that, too, but these projects start to grow... Could you take time (5 to 15 minutes?) to have a look at my concerns at Talk:AMPROFON#Checking and reworking "Sales certificates" table? I'd be grateful for any feedback there. TIA. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 02:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

notifying others[edit]

Kww, what do you think of this, in my opinion it's a more subtle form of canvassing. LibStar (talk) 03:02, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

yes barely. however, I notice people will do anything to save an article. LibStar (talk) 03:17, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

The Wall[edit]

It has been my experience with fully protected articles, that the protecting admin usually sets a time frame for unprotection. Do you plan to keep full protection indefinitely?Mk5384 (talk) 10:21, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I think that is appropriate to note the length of full protection at the article itself. YMMV?Mk5384 (talk) 14:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
It's just that I've always seen that "big ugly banner" when an article is fully protected. I will admit, I haven't dealt with that many fully protected articles, so maybe it isn't customary. If you feel it's better without the banner, that's fine by me.Mk5384 (talk) 14:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Kings and Queens[edit]

Hi. I saw that you've protected the Kings and Queens article and I can understand that. But can I undo the contribution of because as I've mentioned earlier, the song was not the #1 in the Netherlands. It just reached the first position in the Tipparade, which is just the bubbling under chart and not the official Top 40. In the week that claims to be the week with Kings as the number one, Just Say Yes was the best performing song in the Netherlands (source). Thank you. RichV/ThePretender 22:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Tik Tok Help[edit]

Hi there, i noticed you have warned user Felipe1219859 about using WP:BADCHARTS. Anywho i dont know if you can help, he keeps adding the Brasil Hot 100 Airplay, I know it falls under WP:GOODCHARTS but the link given is dead. What should i do, i dont wanna violate 3RR and hes being persistent.
Thanks alot. Please reply on my Talk page ..:CK:.. (talk2me) 02:30, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Japanese language[edit]

I randomly saw that one of your hobbies was Japanese, and as I have an interest in learning the language (an interest which came suddenly, randomly, and confusingly one night), was wondering if you had any suggestions on how best to proceed. Huntster (t @ c) 08:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, that kind of scares me, but I had a feeling that would be the best option. I just remember taking Spanish classes in high school and coming away with nothing beyond "No habla Español", which isn't even proper grammar ;D Huntster (t @ c) 17:56, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I smell a sock[edit]

Not of anyone I believe you've noticed, though. You said you do a lot of SPIs, so how about I float this here, first...

Gabi has been to ANI a few times and has been blocked, and in the last few days all most articles have kicked up again with another brand new editor doing the very same stuff. I seems quite convincing to me. The other possibility that strongly suggests itself is that it's user:Drew R. Smith taking another go; Sami's user page lifted a lot of code techniques that originate with me and Drew's last sock did exactly that. Either way, I believe this should be looked at. Cheers, Jack Merridew 18:47, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


Cheers, Jack Merridew 04:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


FYI, i'm not a sock and if you have any ground to accuse me you should speak with me. It was just that more was missing, try me for this project and end up being accused by mere administrators who want to find justifications for their bias. Vitorvicentevalente (talk) 20:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Your Love Is My Drug[edit]

Hi, can you please explain why you changed the way Your Love Is My Drug charts section was written? ..:CK:.. (talk2me) 00:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

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Began editing just a few weeks ago. Has problems with accepting consensus, bad-faith assumptions of vandalism, illiterate, awkward proposals to "work together" or "work things out" makes me think this could be yet another sockpuppet of User:Eddiep803b. Suspicions are further confirmed by the fact that this user has a sandbox for intended changes to Hilary Duff discography which remove Santa Claus Lane from studio albums. I'll let you look over this since I'm not sure if the evidence is concrete enough. –Chase (talk) 01:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Appreciate it Kevin. Have a safe travel. –Chase (talk) 01:18, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


for you too look at ... [6] =) Lil-unique1 (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Future works on filmography[edit]

Hello! I had a doubt and I want to know if you can clarify it to me. Is there any rule that we can't add future works on a filmography table? The user Olivewildes removed some films on Ashley Tisdale's filmography section claiming we should only add films in the table once they are released. Is that true? Thanks! Decodet (talk) 17:27, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I understand you point of view but if you see, all the Featured articles about actors have future works listed on filmography articles. Brad Pitt, Emma Watson, Preity Zinta, Miranda Otto, Austin Nichols, Angelina Jolie, Katie Holmes, and many many others are examples. I don't think there's a rule about it in filmographies. Decodet (talk) 18:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

Hi, Kww. Since you are an admin, I have a request of you, to move Abby Carlton --> Abby Newman. The character was credited as such in the closing credits, and it was stated on screen on May 18, 2010. If needed, [7] Candyo32 (talk) 19:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Re:Chart limit[edit]

Thanks for the link, I don't mind having 10 peaks, but I strongly object removing Japan's positions as well as its certifications, because Japan's has the second largest Music Market in the world; therefore, very important to include within the table. However, I don't mind if anybody wants to remove one of the tiny markets in the table, either New Zealand or Ireland, the platinum awards on both of which is only 15,000, whereas Japan's platinum is at 250,000.--Harout72 (talk) 22:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Chart macros[edit]

Let me explain. I never said that I was going to fail "Tik Tok" if LICKI did not use chart macros. He was correcting all the reference MOS, and I just pointed to him that its better to use the old chart referencing method as the singleschart template referencing is faulty in nature (not the method). Also, those Gaga GA articles which have in them are before this acharts rule was introduced in WP:GOODCHARTS. I admit I actually forgot about it, and will replace with the registered charts as soon as possible.

The problem I face with the singles chart template is purely reference problem. It authomatically italicizs the online sources (RIANZ, ARIA, MC, IRMA, FIMI) when they are not supposed to be, as well as put wrong author names like Billboard in the author name positions. Thats why till today also I have hesitated in using the template and prefer the old way. Maybe tiresome, but doesnot violate MOS. Hope you understood. I will deal with LICKI. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:31, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I was looking through "Obsessed" macros and saw that the Billboard charts use the old formatting, while the other nations has the "Country (Provider)" format. Any reason for this? Also, the providers are used as the redirect names in many of them, like IFPI, FIMI, ARIA etc, which would be a problem, if any of these articles would later be nominated for FAC as those FAC reviewers will surely point this out. Hence a full expansion of the names in teh references are needed. And normally, etc, they are not the publisher, just the website name. The publisher is always Hung Medien, and the work is always the governing body. Just try to see if they can be portrayed as the old way of referencing. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
For eg, Lady Gaga's The Remix album, the formatting should be.
"Lady Gaga – The Remix (album)". Ultratop 50 (Flemish). Hung Medien. Retrieved 2010-05-25.  In this way, there's no faulty author name in the front and Ultratop 50, an online source, is not italicized.
Agree with the new way in Billboard. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Of course. Take your time and patience. --Legolas (talk2me) 05:21, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

a new hand in the cookie jar[edit]

Hi. You might monitor this user. Cheers, Jack Merridew 19:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


Hi there! Sorry for the uncommented revert. I left a comment on the talk page and not in the edit summary because there was not enough space. I will avoid uncommented reverts in the future, though. Janfrie1988 (talk) 00:36, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


Will you be kind enough to explain to me why you a protecting this FERROL entry please? User:Attilios has demonstrated very poor knowledge of “FERROL” and not just that, but very poor geographical knowledge in general of MODERN GEOGRAPHY!! He claims to have a degree in engineering and possibly he does... but he is definitely NOT a geographer!! And his corrections in this entry are totally bias and more than just fruit of bad faith I am going to say they are fruit of his luck of geographical expertise!! And then you are contributing to allow his badly form corrections to this entry to prevail!!! … O.o In all honesty, I cannot believe that you are part of this Free encyclopaedia project because you are contributing with your attitude and actions to justify the attacks suffered by WIKIPAEDIA in recent years by the education establishment and other institutions to do with the world of knowledge who say that <<This encyclopaedia lucks rigor and it shouldn’t be used for academic research because it’s totally unreliable!!>> I am in professional contact with some of these institutions and believe me even though I used to defend this encyclopaedia you are making VERY DIFUCULT TO DEFEND WHATS BEGINNING TO BE TOTALLY UNDEFENDABLE!! … Will you please stop it now and keep the entry as it was before “ATTILOS the HUN” started messing about with the whole entry ruining the work of so many others!! THANKS!!--Gladys Tuffnell (talk) 18:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

The FERROL entry in the Section to do with the economy used to say this:
  1. Primary IndustriesAgriculture (Horse Breeding), Aquaculture (Fish Farming), Fishing (Specializing in the Atlantic Shoals), Important Mines (ENDESA), NTFP (Forest Harvest), Quarries and Timber.
  2. Secondary IndustriesShipbuilding, Ship Engines, Turbines (Wind Mills and Ships), Electrical Equipment, Ironworks, Fashion (Textiles), Food (Canned Fish) and Wood-Made Products.
  3. Tertiary IndustriesMercantile, Fishing and Military Ports, Restaurants, News Media (Ferrol TV/Diario de Ferrol), Hotels (Barceló Almirante/Pazo Libunca), Leisure and Tourism (World Surf Competitions, Popular Transatlantic Steamships Stop), Consulting, Health Care/Hospitals (Arquitecto Marcide Hospital Complex), Education (Schools, Colleges/ESENGRA and Universities/UNED/PERITOS) and Public Utilities, Franchises (main brand names and designer label's shops), Wholesale (Navy Suppliers/Anton-Martin) and Retail Industries (El Corte Inglés/Alcampo).
  4. Quaternary Sector IndustriesNaval, Electrical and Mechanical Equipment together with New Technologies (Galician Centre for Innovations and Services CIS-FERROL).

NOW LOOK WHAT IT SAYS INSTEAD!! USER ATTILOS IS JUST AN IGNORANT!!! @_@ --Gladys Tuffnell (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


(re: Sint Eustatius). Sometimes it takes an outside voice to cut through the mutual misunderstanding. I appreciate your doing that in this case. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:02, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Te Amo[edit]

It's not impossible. Te Amo was released as a single here in Brazil even before "Russian Roulette", you can ask any Brazilian. It was a massive hit in radios on here, that's why it could chart in Billboard Brazil. Decodet (talk) 00:29, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I do have the November issue, and it says Te Amo peaked at number twelve. Also, the November issue was published in the middle of November, not in the previous month. About the fact the song charted before the album's release, you may not know that a demo version of Te Amo leaked in the internet a long time ago and that was the version the Brazilian radios started to play (mainly because its Portuguese/Spanish title, in my opinion). Decodet (talk) 06:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Brain and Scamper sock[edit]

Would you please take a look at User:SCAMPER 4999, who appeared just after the block of sock User:499 and the vandalism block of User:4912 to continue posting content about the non-existent films about "Brain and Scamper" and has persisted to create new articles that are deleted as hoaxes about the "film". He is at it again tonight, with a new article, List Of Brain And Scamper Show Movie Characters and has the same list of actors supposedly attached. I tagged this account as connected directly, but it didn't get blocked. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm an idiot. It was User:Brain 499 and User:Brain4912. Too much on the "Brain" so to speak. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm SO glad he hadn't gotten around to sticking it in the filmographies of all those actors he lists. This is a very minor internet video thing that is barely there. Apparently these accounts are associated with it somehow and he has a "dream cast" that he keeps sticking in the "film". He loves Steve Buscemi! Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:29, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Cry Michael Jackson song[edit]

The article is undergoing GA review and I'd rather not receive input from those not immediately involved (the editor and me) until the review is completed. How can I complete the review if every ten minutes someone not immediately concerned is editing the article? Once the review is completed, please feel free to edit to your heart's content! Thanks! SoniaSyle (talk) 03:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


Hello, i need your assistance. Currently i do not have rollback rights, i need you to rollback Shrek (film series) for me. IP's and new users have had a field had and completely messed up the aritcle. Could you please roll it back to edit : [8]? It would save me undoing like 15 edits, none of which appeared to be very constructive, a couple were goods edits but i will gladly add back any information lost, it will just save me alot of time. Thank you, ..:CK:.. (talk2me) 07:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Chart source[edit]

Hey I have some concerns about the reliability of the sources for the chart positions on this article. I would be grateful if you can look and make the necessary changes. Thank you! --Sakrileg (talk) 10:30, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Softonic's dots[edit]

Brexx? I wish I was better at identifying Brexx's socks, but my mastery resides with TrEeMaNsHoE socks. — ξxplicit 19:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

People's Most Beautiful[edit]

In pop culture, People Magazine's annual lists including, Most Beautiful People and Sexist Man Alive lists are notable. Wouldn't you agree? The others cited are less important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Easy12345 (talkcontribs) 02:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I understand your thoughts about pop culture's lists. There are plenty - but list, in particular the People's Most Beautiful is notable and stand a part from the rest (it is rightly or wrongly mentioned on big network news programs). Also, noting that other wiki pages (not that is the best reference), it seems to be notable for julia roberts to vanessa hudgens to George Clooney (Sexist Man Alive) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Easy12345 (talkcontribs) 02:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps inclusion on popular magazine lists does not make it as notable, but the ones that cover those editions I would lean toward that they are?Easy12345 (talk) 03:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I am not specifically referring to her (moved on / pass that). It's an open ended / broad conversation considering actors such as Julia Roberts, George Clooney, Matt Damon, Johnny Depp, Olivia Wilde, etc. - that have been on the cover of popular magazine's top lists (i.e. Most Beautiful, Sexist Man, etc) - which all seem to have a notation on their respective wikipages. Because, it seems a considerable amount of pages will require edits. And if it appears on a number of wikipages that have passed through the wiki community previously - it stands to reason that it is perhaps indeed notable and important.Easy12345 (talk) 03:37, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

For the record, I understand the validity of the agrument that it is unimportant - I agree. It just seems it isn't important what I or any one individual deems as important or unimportant, but what is informational to a tested community. But again, I get it. just wanted to ensure goingn forward the same principle will be applied. i'll undo any edits i have made with notation to it. cheers. Easy12345 (talk) 03:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Re; Condoning block evasion[edit]

With the deepest respect, i do not wholly accept the implied criticism in your posting on my talk page. I have been admin here for several years, and spend essentially all of my time here combating vandalism, either at CSD, AIV or UAA. The user in question remains blocked, and the edit you are questionning was indeed an unblock decline. But we both know that it is wholly possible for a blocked user to get a new ISP, create a new account on this, and edit. My comment was meant to be a warning to him, if he did this, to avoid further vandalism. Perhaps it did not come across that way, but it needs to be looked at in the context of his unblock request. It was not, and in my view IS not, a comment condoning block evasion. Look at my editing history over the last three+ years to assimilate my view on that. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 20:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, and as an afterthought, may I point out that you are admonishing an admin with over 17,000 admin actions listed, while you have 472? --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 20:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

editing reasons[edit]

Hi Kww. Please discuss your reasoning for the changes you are making to the Opposition to Water Fluoridation page on the talk page. Thanks. Petergkeyes (talk) 19:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)