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The article Václav Hladký has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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[edit]Thanks for your new article on Czech football! C679 22:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC) |
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[edit]This website violates copyright, so please do not include links to it in the future as you have done at Ludevít Grmela. Regards, GiantSnowman 13:06, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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Brno footballers
[edit]Hi Pospeak and thanks for your contributions to new articles. I have proposed some of these for deletion, however, as footballers who have not played in the top two Czech leagues, or the top one Slovak league, are not eligible unless they have received significant coverage in the media. Thanks, C679 07:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
February 2014
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Nomination of Miroslav Keresteš for deletion
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Brno reserve players
[edit]Hello. I see you have restored the Brno reserve players at FC Zbrojovka Brno. Could you please explain why you think this list should be included? None of the players are notable and the reserve team players can not play for the club's A-team. If I don't hear from you, I will revert your changes. Thanks, C679 17:14, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, many professional football teams have reserve team squad included in Wiki page (e.g. AC Sparta Prague and SK Slavia Prague in Czech First League). Why I cann't do it by FC Zbrojovka Brno? In addition to this, reserve team players in the Czech Repullic can appear in A-team whenever during the season, so it's probable that any of them do it. Thanks, Pospeak
Nomination of Jiří Janoščin for deletion
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- Deleted because it is likely unnecessary (see WP:TWODABS). I have edited the hatnotes on each page to point directly at the other article. larryv (talk) 20:50, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Petr Rybička
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[edit]Please add reliable sources to Oleh Kvych, an unreferenced biography of a living person. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:08, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- You've continued to edit - can you please respond? Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 21:02, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
The page refering to Oleh Kvych was edited by adding 2 sources. Pospeak 18 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 12:25, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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Ways to improve Jiří Floder
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[edit]Since much of its content is user-edited, Transfermarkt is not considered a reliable source. Please do not cite the website in articles. Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:59, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Transfermarkt is the best reliable source in terms of players`s stats. Especially in the area of Czech football, where e.g. Transfermarkt is the only website that takes relegation play-offs into consideration. I don't care if it is user-edited or not. Every website is edited by someone. I've been editing articles about Czech football players for many years and I've never had a problem with Transfermarkt. Pospeak (talk) 16:57, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Per WP:SPS, user-edited sources such as Transfermarkt are not considered reliable and should not be cited in articles. Please do not cite the website again. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:16, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
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Nomination of FC Zbrojovka Brno B for deletion
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- FC Zbrojovka Brno HAS PLAYED Czech Second League between 2003-2006. So please STOP deleting this page! Pospeak (talk) 11:07, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Oldřich Pragr for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Nicolas Martinek
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- There were added references and external links (Soccerway) to this newly created page. Slovak 2. liga is professional league and 70 games, that Nicolas Martinek has played, is definately notable. I refuse deleting this page. Thanks Pospeak (talk) 09:37, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note that as it stands, the page still does not meet the WP:GNG criteria and could be deleted. That 70 matches in the second Slovak league is a very subjective criterion. In the future please ensure that objective criteria of notability are taken into account when creating a page of a player. It is counterproductive to create a page as soon as a footballer becomes a player of your favorite club. FromCzech (talk) 11:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- I read WP:GNG rules over and over again and guess which of the points are not met. Please name one. 70 matches is not enough? How many appearances would be enough? 300? 1000? Who decides on this? So please stop torpedoing my work like you have done in the past with players like Claude Lhotecký, Vojtěch Šmid, Oldřich Pragr and others, where all od them had at least one appearance in Czech Football League. I can look for similar cases like these on Wiki and I'm sure there are dozens and no one needs to delete them. (e.g. Adam Pudil who has 26 appearances only in Czech 2. Liga)...Howgh Pospeak (talk) 11:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Following the WP:NSPORTS2022 global RfC, all the participation-based criteria were eliminated and the only thing that matters is GNG criteria. None of the footballers you mentioned was covered enough by media, or at least no one including you was able to prove it, and it's nothing personal against you. Feel free to nominate other players for deletion if you know of any. FromCzech (talk) 12:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- I ask again, how many appearances does a player have to have to be significant (to rule GNG criteria)? Give a number. What is "media coverage"? I ask specific questions and unfortunately I only get subjective answers. All of the players mentioned above had external links to official team page, very cited football website Soccerway and referencies from local media. If there is something of it missing, it's not problem to point it out and anyone can add sources to improve reliability. But you nominate it straingh for deletion... To the last one: Don't worry, I'm not going to finger anyone, but in French football, for example, there are a lot of players whose maximum is playing Championnat National 2 (fourth level). Pospeak (talk) 12:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- As I already wrote, the appearances criterion was abolished. An entry in a database such as Soccerway does not count as media. I nominated it for deletion because at the time the article had no references and nothing to prove his notability (as we already said, the 70 matches alone are not enough). At the moment, there is only one reference, which is at least a record from the media, but it is also not clear from the article what makes the player important (the fact that he became a Zbrojovka player does not make him notable. Nothing about his career is evident from the article, he does not even have a history in youth national teams...). As for your example: I don't know much about French football, but I assume most were created before NSPORTS2022, just like your pages. FromCzech (talk) 13:32, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can you tell me, what EXACTLY should player do to be important or to have media coverage? Is there any measure? For sure there's none, it's all about (your) subjectivity. Pages of Claude Lhotecký, Vojtěch Šmid, Oldřich Pragr were created before 2022 (between 2020-2021), so why did you nominate it for deletion? Noticing that there is lack of sources would be enough... Soccerway database is widely used as a resource of appearances and goals across the world and you don't count it as a reliable source? Pospeak (talk) 11:23, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not a journalist, I don't decide who appears on TV, in newspaper articles etc. But the better clubs and competitions a player plays in and the longer he plays in them, the more he appears in the media. NSPORT2022 is applied to all articles regardless of the time of their creation. It prevents the creation of new pages that do not meet the criteria and it is a base to delete all unimportant players created earlier. Wiki is an encyclopedia, not a database.
- Nothing is about my subjectivity, the deletion of each proposal was accompanied by discussions in which a consensus was reached. Look for example on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oldřich Pragr. I didn't even nominate him. Noticing that there is lack of sources is fine when the sources exist, just are not used, not when there aren't any.
- Soccerway is a reliable source, but it is a database (and therefore contains all players regardless of their importance) and is therefore not counted among the media. FromCzech (talk) 12:31, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- I still don't have an answer to the question of what media and how often does a player have to be in order to be notable? If you can't answer that for me, subjective evaluation has to come in... How can you say that there were no references in the deleted pages? How did you know that there exist no references? Did you search the internet?
- If NSPORT2022 (a huge stupidity in my opinion) applies retroactively, it means deleting thousands to tens of thousands of entries and trampling on the work of a lot of encyclopedists who do it in their spare time. I think it's better to put your efforts in another direction... Pospeak (talk) 12:35, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can you tell me, what EXACTLY should player do to be important or to have media coverage? Is there any measure? For sure there's none, it's all about (your) subjectivity. Pages of Claude Lhotecký, Vojtěch Šmid, Oldřich Pragr were created before 2022 (between 2020-2021), so why did you nominate it for deletion? Noticing that there is lack of sources would be enough... Soccerway database is widely used as a resource of appearances and goals across the world and you don't count it as a reliable source? Pospeak (talk) 11:23, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- As I already wrote, the appearances criterion was abolished. An entry in a database such as Soccerway does not count as media. I nominated it for deletion because at the time the article had no references and nothing to prove his notability (as we already said, the 70 matches alone are not enough). At the moment, there is only one reference, which is at least a record from the media, but it is also not clear from the article what makes the player important (the fact that he became a Zbrojovka player does not make him notable. Nothing about his career is evident from the article, he does not even have a history in youth national teams...). As for your example: I don't know much about French football, but I assume most were created before NSPORTS2022, just like your pages. FromCzech (talk) 13:32, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- I ask again, how many appearances does a player have to have to be significant (to rule GNG criteria)? Give a number. What is "media coverage"? I ask specific questions and unfortunately I only get subjective answers. All of the players mentioned above had external links to official team page, very cited football website Soccerway and referencies from local media. If there is something of it missing, it's not problem to point it out and anyone can add sources to improve reliability. But you nominate it straingh for deletion... To the last one: Don't worry, I'm not going to finger anyone, but in French football, for example, there are a lot of players whose maximum is playing Championnat National 2 (fourth level). Pospeak (talk) 12:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Following the WP:NSPORTS2022 global RfC, all the participation-based criteria were eliminated and the only thing that matters is GNG criteria. None of the footballers you mentioned was covered enough by media, or at least no one including you was able to prove it, and it's nothing personal against you. Feel free to nominate other players for deletion if you know of any. FromCzech (talk) 12:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- I read WP:GNG rules over and over again and guess which of the points are not met. Please name one. 70 matches is not enough? How many appearances would be enough? 300? 1000? Who decides on this? So please stop torpedoing my work like you have done in the past with players like Claude Lhotecký, Vojtěch Šmid, Oldřich Pragr and others, where all od them had at least one appearance in Czech Football League. I can look for similar cases like these on Wiki and I'm sure there are dozens and no one needs to delete them. (e.g. Adam Pudil who has 26 appearances only in Czech 2. Liga)...Howgh Pospeak (talk) 11:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note that as it stands, the page still does not meet the WP:GNG criteria and could be deleted. That 70 matches in the second Slovak league is a very subjective criterion. In the future please ensure that objective criteria of notability are taken into account when creating a page of a player. It is counterproductive to create a page as soon as a footballer becomes a player of your favorite club. FromCzech (talk) 11:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Jiří Hamza for deletion
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Edit warring
[edit]Hi, this is the third time you added a red link to Adam Kronus in FC Zbrojovka Brno within 12 days. Your actions, in combination with the complete non-use of the edit summary for communication and ignoring what I wrote in my edit summaries, is clearly edit warring. Please start behaving appropriately. FromCzech (talk) 12:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's funny when you delete the red link before I can create the page. I managed to do it now and the page was created including the references. Calm down... Pospeak (talk) 12:47, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- First you have to create the page, then you can add the link. This is no excuse for not filling out the edit summary or edit warring. FromCzech (talk) 12:58, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Since I find your criticism pointless, you forced me to search the Wiki rules. So according WP:WRITEITFIRST: "...If such an entry links to an article that does not exist, the result is a red link like this one. When the editor goes on to create the new article, the red link in the list turns blue, and assuming the article follows Wikipedia's practices (such as notability, verifiability, and other relevant policies and guidelines), everything is fine. End of citation. Can you tell me something about it? It took me a few minutes to create the article, which wouldn't be a problem if you didn't need to delete something right away.
- Pospeak (talk) 13:26, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I just put it in parentheses as a BTW so I don't understand you now. You are not responding in any way to what I wrote in this discussion. And just by the way, you already started his page, but did you really prove his notability? I don't think so. Looks like another example of WP:TOOEARLY. Why don't you wait a few seasons to see if he became notable footballer or not? FromCzech (talk) 13:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- No, I don't understand you. I added the red link and before I could create the page you had nothing better to do than point out the red link. Which is weird, but it says a lot about your work. We have different views on who is notable, but I am convinced that a start in the most watched sports competition in the world is definitely notable Pospeak (talk) 17:16, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- You added the link on 4 August and on 15 August, but you only started the page today. 12 days is a long time, and as I wrote, you don't need a link to create a page, so that's a lame excuse. You are also generally known for linking not-notable footballers and starting their pages, as evidenced by the list of those that were deleted by consensus, so I had every right to delete the link. Also, and sorry to repeat myself, you didn't bother to communicate via Edit summary and instead wanted to edit warring. Think about it before you start making personal attacks.
- Btw 5 minutes in Champions League is not success that would make you notable per WP:SPORTBASIC. It's not that your view of notability differs from mine; the point is that your view and the Wiki community's view are different. FromCzech (talk) 18:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- No edit war would be needed if you didn't need to attack the red link I created. BTW, on June 9, 2023, user "Rest in pieces" made a change to the head coach of Zbrojovka Luděk Klusáček and added a red link to him. Since no one has made his page yet (a chance for you), the red link has been lit for 2 months. And no one (including me and you) cares. What about the other thousands of red links that are created in different areas, but the articles don't exist yet. Should I take it personally? Why are you starting an edit war only against me? You probably don't watch much football, otherwise you wouldn't be able to write such nonsense about starting in the Champions League. Pospeak (talk) 06:02, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- No, I don't understand you. I added the red link and before I could create the page you had nothing better to do than point out the red link. Which is weird, but it says a lot about your work. We have different views on who is notable, but I am convinced that a start in the most watched sports competition in the world is definitely notable Pospeak (talk) 17:16, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I just put it in parentheses as a BTW so I don't understand you now. You are not responding in any way to what I wrote in this discussion. And just by the way, you already started his page, but did you really prove his notability? I don't think so. Looks like another example of WP:TOOEARLY. Why don't you wait a few seasons to see if he became notable footballer or not? FromCzech (talk) 13:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Since I find your criticism pointless, you forced me to search the Wiki rules. So according WP:WRITEITFIRST: "...If such an entry links to an article that does not exist, the result is a red link like this one. When the editor goes on to create the new article, the red link in the list turns blue, and assuming the article follows Wikipedia's practices (such as notability, verifiability, and other relevant policies and guidelines), everything is fine. End of citation. Can you tell me something about it? It took me a few minutes to create the article, which wouldn't be a problem if you didn't need to delete something right away.
- First you have to create the page, then you can add the link. This is no excuse for not filling out the edit summary or edit warring. FromCzech (talk) 12:58, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
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