User talk:Rdsmith4/Archive 7

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September 4 - October 11, 2005


Just noticed Raul promoted you. Congrats on yr b'cratship. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:30, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

And from me as well; the show of support you received was well-deserved and I'm sure it will continue to be so. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 07:55, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

No problem. You definately deserve to become a bureaucrat. Congratulations. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 13:21, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

About my RfA[edit]

Hi Dan, just a quick note to tell you that, though you opposed my adminship nomination, I appreciate the fact that you made public your concerns about me. I have been made an admin nonetheless, and I will of course act my best to prove your fears wrong. Best regards, Sam Hocevar 07:46, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

about my upload files[edit]

Hi, I have uploaded several pictures, they are all my own works, please feel free to use them. according to some word from you about the copy right files, I do not know how to creat them, but just use this message to tell you that, is that ok?~

I removed that image because a user[edit]

See Talk:Hurricane_Katrina#economist_cover

I have stopped removing them. Only wanted to provide a few examples. Would you please comment though, under this new interpretation literally hundreds would have to be removed. I believe even the tag contradicts his position. 18:13, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Magazine covers[edit]

You may want to take a look at removing them across the wiki. I probably don't want to get involved :-p --GraemeL (talk) 18:10, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Ian Fleming image[edit]

Hi, I noticed you uploaded Image:Ian Fleming.jpg in 2004 and I'm wondering if you can perhaps give me an idea of where you might have gotten it so that I can add rationale for it. I added the image to Thunderball (a long time ago) because a good portion of the article discusses a lawsuit involving Fleming; however, because Thunderball is on FAC, some editors are requesting that we require rationale for all images used. I believe this image is fair-to-use, but am not sure of the source and therefore not entirely sure how to claim why it is fairuse. It may be public domain, I honestly don't know. This whole "rationale" business is all new to me so I really don't know what to write for this instance. Any help you may be able to give to me would be much appreciated though. K1Bond007 21:40, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Neutral vote[edit]

Hi just curious since you cancelled your text on my RFB nomination. Did you withdraw the neutral vote or was that a replacement to the above text? Thanks & regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:19, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

avoid passive voice on ITN[edit]

Hello, Rdsmith4. Just saw the edit summary to your latest edit on ITN.... I usually try to avoid passive voice, too, but I thought we should also avoid Bush. Everytime he shows up on the MainPage, his page gets vandalized very often. And the page already gets vandalized quite often to start with ..... Do we want to deal with this ? -- PFHLai 23:28, 2005 September 5 (UTC)

Okay. And I hope I am wrong. Have fun this evening. :-) -- PFHLai 23:39, 2005 September 5 (UTC)


Cool thanks, whats the difference? No new buttons I see. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:22, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Yup thanks. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:44, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

TOCright unnecessary?[edit]

I saw you removed the {{TOCright}} from the Gnosticism article. What's so particularly bad about this macro (which is used in several articles)? How can you (as a layout person or reader) get the same effect otherwise? Please elaborate... Nixdorf 18:26, September 6, 2005 (UTC)


Wikipedia has a rule called the three-revert rule, and if you revert an article more than 3 times within 24 hours, you can be blocked from editing.... see WP:3RR. Mamawrites 22:44, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi Dan, I was watching The Triangle (North Carolina) after tracking the other editor who kept reverting along with you. I figured it was only fair to warn both of you about the rule, even though you're clearly a much more experienced user than he is... Mamawrites 22:49, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
If I knew how to blush in emoticons, I would! Sorry about going after you for simply trying to solve the same problem that I was! Glad to know the other user is blocked. Mamawrites 23:03, 6 September 2005 (UTC)


I just wanted to make you aware that User:Adamwankenobi has been perm banned for edit warring, vandalism, disruption, as well as incivility, 3rr and a number of other breaches of wikipedia rules and guidelines including breaking an unofficial probation that came with the unblocking of his last indef. block on the promise that he wouldn't do it again. If you have any questions or would like to dispute this block please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 00:46, September 7, 2005 (UTC)


Problem with that is that it doesnt use the full with. The intro is a double column that centers differently than the lower category section. -St|eve 22:38, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Reply at Template_talk:MainPageIntro#Template:MainPageIntro.2Fdraft -St|eve 17:56, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

User talk:[edit]

You just placed a vandalism warning on this IPs talk page, but deleted all the previous ones that were there. Was that on purpose? Owen× 01:33, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Popups tool[edit]

Congratulations on being made a bureaucrat! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools#Navigation_popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is paste the following into User:Rdsmith4/Archive 7/monobook.js:

// [[User:Lupin/popups.js]] - please include this line 

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
             + '' 
             + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');


Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin 02:29, 8 September 2005 (UTC)


You asked me some months ago to make blockip.js work when editing user pages. This has been done. —Korath (Talk) 02:36, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Username change[edit]

Your username change request has been completed; please see my reply to your comments at Wikipedia:Changing username. Regards — Dan | Talk 00:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

No, your userpages are not moved automatically, but I took care of it as part of the process. — Dan | Talk 03:37, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
That's what I thought. I don't think you're required to(, at any rate, the instructions on that page direct the User to do so following the change), which is why I made a point of thanking you. -- WikidSmaht 03:50, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

i did not vandalise the page[edit]

i went to the page and it was filled with swastikas, i simply fixed it.

Telling me[edit]

DOnt tell me what to o


Hi there. Thanks for the promotion to sysop: I see you did it on the dot of 0629UTC today, like any fine bureaucrat would. Do keep an eye on me as I learn how the new buttons work! Thanks again. -Splash 13:24, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[edit]

Hi, I think this user was editing from an open proxy, so I unblocked your short block so I could block him with an indefinite block. (I couldn't find a way to work the word "block" into that sentence more than 4 times. I tried.) Joyous (talk) 02:56, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

I look it up here. It's not 100%, but it helps. Probable open proxies are listed in red, but so are IPs that are just dynamic, so be careful before permablocking. Enter this latest vandal's IP, and you'll see what it looks like. Joyous (talk) 03:11, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Inadvertent block[edit]

Hello Rdsmith4, I appear to have been blocked due to Vandalism. I am on an AOL browser so obviously as a result of you blocking a vandal, I have been impeded also. Is there something you can do?--Knucmo2 19:00, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

user name[edit]

Okay, point taken. I'll try to think of a good alternative username soon, and get back to you. Inspiration is lacking at the moment. Main Page 20:18, 10 September 2005 (UTC)



In response to your message:

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. — Dan | Talk 03:48, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I wanted to inform you that I have not, in fact, vandalized any pages. I have not even changed a single letter of any single page. What I have done is clicked on a couple of the links that said "edit" out of curiosity. Once I saw that all the article text was actually editable, I used my back arrow to avoid making any changes. I was merely investigating how the site works, in case I do feel the need to make alterations to an article in the future. I can understand your desire to protect valuable site content from vandalism and I can assure you that I appreciate the veracity of the articles.

Just wanted to set the record straight,

S. Milton

Import Watchlist[edit]

Running CDVF and cannot discern from the instructions here how to properly download my watchlist for importing into the program. Clarification would be appreciated. - RoyBoy 800 06:02, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Darn. Just saw you doing yo thang and felt overly optimistic you had it setup nicely. Will message CryptoDerk. - RoyBoy 800 06:07, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Science pearls[edit]


Since you contributed in the past to the publications’ lists, I thought that you might be interested in this new project. I’ll be glad if you will continue contributing. Thanks,APH 09:39, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Not all clock towers are Big Ben[edit]

I completely agree. I think it is absolutely crazy that Clock Tower continues to be redirected to the Big Ben article! --Rebroad 13:39, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Revert on [Ray Nagin][edit]

You probably didn't mean to do it but you reverted the Ray Nagin article to the version that claims that Blanco sent out a press release asking for a state of emergency to be declared instead of contacting the Whitehouse to ask them to declare the emergency. This is not merely POV it is total lunacy. The individual who has been peddling this and other theories has reverted the article 9 NINE times in the past 24 hours. All work on the article has essentially stopped because 5 editors are reverting the edits by this one individual. --Gorgonzilla 18:49, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Your early pulling of RfA[edit]

I saw your early pulling of my RfA, and I do not pretend that I would have an easy time dealing with this situation if I were in your position.

Normally, I follow concensus, and please note that I am a user in good standing, maybe not as "experienced" as some, but in good standing: Look at my block logs:

However, concensus must give way to policy: Either the "concensus" must be opposed on policy grounds, or the "policy" must be changed (if it is really wrong).

Since the policy, as applied, allows any user in good standing to be admin, I have notified Jimbo of the lack of compliance with policy: Mob Rule is fun -but it rarely ever works.

The "ill will" factor, while not significant in my honest opinion, has not diminished by the pulling of my nomination; I would ask that you repost my nomination and let it run its course --giving me about 2-3 extra days to make up for what you've done in the early pulling, but, if you want to wait and talk to Jimbo first, that is alright.

PS: Please read the RfA page from beginning to end before you suppose to do anything: You will find that the situation is not what you think, and I suggest your reading it so that when Jimbo asks you about it, there won't be any surprises.

Best.--GordonWatts 07:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/GordonWatts[edit]

Regarding the above, I saw that you withdrew the nomination because it had no chance of succeeding. However, Gordon and others continued posting to the page, which was becoming somewhat toxic as a result. He also lodged an appeal with Jimbo [1] and tried to have the story of his RfA written up for Signpost. [2] I've therefore put a note at the top of the page saying the vote has closed, and I added his name to the failed nomination page. I also asked him to stop posting to the voting page, but he continued, so I protected it. If I've done the wrong thing there, I'm sorry, and obviously feel free to undo it. I've left a note on his talk page telling him what I've done. [3] Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 09:18, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Vandal User talk:[edit]

Since you warned the user about being blocked could you pursue this further? Problems continue (examine contributions). Thanks, Leonard G. 17:48, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

It's a school IP (i.e. shared between a large number of students), and the last spate of vandalism was from the beginning of this year; the recent vandalism didn't continue after the first warning. I'm not sure this requires further action. --fvw* 21:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Devil's Reject[edit]

Hello, a visitor to the help desk left this message. They have found an error in [4]. However, I can't fix the problem because the page is protected. I left a message on the article discussion page, but apparently no administrator has seen that notice. Since you protected the page, would you mind responding to the problem? Thanks, Johntex\talk 00:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

I accept your offer to reopen my RfA - see comments[edit]

From my page: "As for reopening your nomination - if you don't mind the "ill will", I'll replace it on the RFA page and adjust the closing time; the premature removal policy is really intended to protect the nominee from undue stress, and if you don't care, then it doesn't apply. — Dan | Talk 15:00, 15 September 2005 (UTC)"

I accept your offer here (Revision as of 15:09, 15 September 2005) to reopen my RfA.

At the RfA main page and the subpage for my RfA here, I've reopened the nomination and adjusted the time as it seems appropriate.

Since this is a contentious RfA, let me clarify some things for critics of your offer and my decision to accept it:

1) If any ill will is felt by those voting, then they don't need to be at Wikipedia: The voting is voluntary: Anyone that doesn't feel welcome should simply go to another page: Unless someone has something to hide, the RfA should proceed to completion, which looks to be about the 23rd of this month: After all, if 25-30 users may be offended by something they voluntarily log on to and review, this is not relevant to the tens of thousands of Wikipedians who might be affected if there is any merits to my concerns raised in this RfA.

2) The concerns about Wikipedia's image are not founded -unless there really is a widespread problem of people not following policy. (In that case, it could be very' embarrassing, but rather "cathartic."

3) However, if there is merit to my claims of failure to follow policy, then my RfA is needed to bring this to other's attention. This is best done by letting it go to completion.

People have acted very immaturely over this, and they just need to butt out, and let the process work its way to completion; this, after all, is just wiki -however, this immature attitude is something that can offend and alienate a great many other users, who are promised that policy will be upheld, but, instead, find little "cliques" of the "inside crowd," and many current admins have argued vigorously just as much as I have, but they criticize me for this, because there is a "Double standard," and this mistreatment of the lower caste must stop.

Accordingly, now I have two goals, not just one with my request for adminship: 1) Promotion if I get enough valid votes; and, 2) Enforcement of policy (or change of it) --or discipline if actors would refuse to comply with our current policies in RfA or whatever: For, these type of actions are why a good many users are quitting Wikipedia, and leaving with hard feelings.

We can do better.

We should do better.

We will do better.

--GordonWatts 10:07, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Username Abuse Issue Resolution Request[edit]

RDSmith4, greetings.

After reading your info page, thought it might be an appropriate intro to note that I'm the May 2005 AUK Hammer of Thor winner, hold webspace @ and a databasix e-mail address (I think that's supposed to be the text equiv of a secret handshake (TINSH)) and that the following attempted resolution of kookmess is actually bleed-over from Usenet, specifically and AUK...that said, I'll save the database space and just give you a link to the situation:

Anything you can do to help, I'd surely appreciate.


NB: Please reply here; I have no registered name at this point and I come from multiple IP addresses. Tx, JHD

I've renamed the user; User:John Henry DeJong now does not exist, and you are free to recreate it. — Dan | Talk 23:02, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks much! I guess now it's time to start reading le FAQs ;-) John Henry DeJong 03:24, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

User:John Henry DeJong[edit]

Hello! I've just received a plea from a would-be user (at User talk:Mel Etitis#My Real Name Stolen, Used for Harassment/Stupidity). He says that his name has been used by a vandal sock-puppet, whose account – User:John Henry DeJong – was permanently blocked; he'd like to edit, and wants to use the account name. Curps suggested that I contact a bureaucrat: "They have the technical ability to change the username of the vandal to something like John_Henry_DeJong_impostor and free up the username for you (as long as the current registrant of the username used it only for vandalism, I believe they would authorize this)." Would that be possible? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:29, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for helping. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:45, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Username change[edit]

Re your earlier comment, please could you change my username to: Terra Green

See ROT13#Trivia for why I like it.

Sorry it's taken a long time for me to think up a good one.

Many thanks.

Main Page 17:22, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! Terra Green 21:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Chicago Meetup[edit]

Have you and Karynn (User:Kelly Martin) figured out something there? I was thinking mid-october to november. And perhaps we could invite Jimbo along? — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 02:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Alright...well I'm okay as long as it's after October 14th and on the weekend (and like you said; not on a holiday). And I'd love to have Jimbo'd be really cool to meet the creator of Wikipedia in person. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 22:34, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikijunior Solar System Needs You[edit]

Danny Wool has challenged us to get Wikijunior Solar System out to hurricane evacuees by October 32005. This is going to be tough!

You expressed interest in WikiJunior. Would you be willing now to join the push to get Wikijunior Solar System completed?

--SV Resolution(Talk) 16:55, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but...[edit]

I don't know what you are talking about. I have never added anything to Wikipedia. I don't know how it works. Sorry, you must have the wrong IP or something.

Thanks for de-uglification of Buffett article[edit]

It's much better now. --Zippy 23:57, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

2005 USA Grand Prix[edit]

Here is the answer to the 2005-USA GP. The is incorrect as listing as ret instead of DNS. This were the responses from the following people. Renowned F1 statistians, like David Hayhoe or Autosport's Peter Higham agree that all Michelin drivers were DNS in 2005-USA, but consider a RET if a driver didn't made a re-start, for example. That was the common view in the past - no contemporary source listed Lauda as a DNS in 1976-Germany - and they simply ignore the current "null and void" FIA rule. I totally agree to change it as DNS not Ret as they didn't take part on the first lap. Andreasu 16:53, 01 October 2005

Button will start his 100th race start in the 2005-China race. But according to wikipedia when doing the math by adding all Button race starts it would be his 101st race start in China as Button has been listed as Ret instead of DNS for this year 2005-USA race. Does this make sense to you. That means wikipedia will have for all the drivers who have no started in the 2005 USA have an extra race start which wouldn't be official to the drivers stats. Andreasu 04 October 2005 09:10
Believe me I have correct race results in the past. And I have proven that before on wikipedia they made mistakes on I also have the emails saved on my computer. Andreasu 04 October 2005 11:57

Your recent edit of Template:Stub[edit]

I'm curious. Did you remove the deprecation text from Template:Stub after seing my Talk page comment, Undeprecate the generic stub template? Also, why does clicking on your Discussion tab redirect from your Talk page (here) to User talk:Rdsmith4/me? Finell 01:50, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. Before I wrote my prior message, I clicked on the Discussion tab on your main User page and was redirected to User talk:Rdsmith4/me. There was 1 entry there posted by User:SeanMack, but it was otherwise blank. I don't understand why the page User talk:Rdsmith4/me would even exist. Its History begins with User:SeanMack's message of 8/11/2005. Finell 03:13, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, my guess is that SeanMack created User talk:Rdsmith4/me, probably by accident, when he posted his 8/11/2005 comment (praising you). How that might cause a redirect from your Talk page, if that is indeed what happened, is beyond my technical competence. Unless you created User talk:Rdsmith4/me for a purpose, that page should probably be deleted. Finell 19:10, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Chicago area meetup[edit]

I've finally decided on a place for the first Wikipedia meetup in Chicago: 2 p.m. at Saturday, October 15th at Cafe Iberico, a tapas bar in the River North neighborhood of Chicago at 739 N. La Salle Drive. They have parking available and are 0.3 mile from the Chicago stop of the CTA Red Line. See their website for parking information; for transit planning use the RTA trip planner with a destination address of "739 N. La Salle Dr." Cafe Iberico has vegetarian selections for those who are so inclined (sorry, they're not very vegan-friendly, I'm afraid). The food is excellent and the environment very suitable for an informal gathering. Do check their webpage for any additional questions, or ask me. They typically cost typically costs between $10 and $15 per person; I'm willing to cover for anyone for whom this is too much (as long as we don't get too many people).

Please let me know before Saturday, October 8th (by email or on my talk page) if you're planning on coming so I can make the appropriate reservations. See you there! Oh, and please share this invitation with anyone you know of in the Chicago area who I've missed. Kelly Martin 19:53, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


I thought you might want to know that I have renominated Image:Bentley badge and hood ornament.jpg to be a FP here. Broken S 02:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Rich Cabins[edit]

Thannk you for your message. My reason for deletion was indeed based mostly on notability (which, though not specifically a deletion criterion, is sometimes covered, more on that later), after a kind. From what I can tell, Rich Cabins Camp is just that: a campsite. Surely it is an interesting campsite to those who visit it, but it is a campsite. This, to me, is as reasonable an article as on my house, where nothing notable in the sense of events the world at large would be interested in has occured. It is verifiable. It exists. I can provide sources, census information, and photographs proving its location. But Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Likewise, a campsite unwarranted by anything other that having people stay there does not warrant an encyclopedia article, in my humble opinion. I could be wrong.

Notability is sometimes covered somewhere in WP:NOT, as in this case. It is also sometimes covered by WP:V. I personally believe that notability is a quality of encyclopedic content, and I am also a deletionist, for much the same reasons that Geogre is. It's just a different way of looking at things. I can understand why some people are inclusionists, I just kindly beg to differ.

I hereby recant my assertion that those camps are unverifiable. From what I gleaned out of the article, and from some quick searches, I concluded that the chances of someone verifying it were unlikely, and used that as shorthand. I'm sorry for any confusion. I wouldn't be opposed to any information that's worth keeping being merged into Philmont Scout Ranch, if that's the concensus. Me, I still don't see how it warrants an article. Maybe I'm just too stubborn :)? By all means, go ahead and create a list of them if you so choose.

I hope that clears things up. If you've still got questions, I'm happy to answer them. Yours, --Blackcap | talk 21:14, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

BillyH's RFA[edit]

OK, sorry about that. Ilyanep said he was performing a closeout, so I thought he was. Just a slight misunderstanding, that's all. Sorry! :-) --WikiFanaticTalk Contribs 18:43, 9 October 2005 (CDT)


Thanks for reverting that vandalism to my user page and blocking the vandal. I appreciate it. --Canderson7 01:37, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

And again, thank you. --Canderson7 03:27, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


I could have sworn that it didn't execute the block...thanks for the heads-up. Ral315 WS 05:22, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


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