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The Signpost: 31 July 2013
[edit]- Recent research: Napoleon, Michael Jackson and Srebrenica across cultures, 90% of Wikipedia better than Britannica, WikiSym preview
- Traffic report: Bouncing Baby Brouhaha
- WikiProject report: Babel Series: Politics on the Turkish Wikipedia
- News and notes: Gearing up for Wikimania 2013
- Arbitration report: Race and politics case closes
- Featured content: Caterpillars, warblers, and frogs—oh my!
Wikidata weekly summary #69
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- Discussions
- Request for comment on defining CheckUsers.
- Request for comment on class ⇄ instance relationship in Wikidata
- The d:Wikidata:Global Economic Map task force is starting its property list. Please go there to propose important properties about economics for countries, regions or companies.
- Events/Press
- Next office hour on August 26
- COSCUP this weekend, Taipei (August 3-4, 2013)
- Wikimania is nearly here!, Hong Kong (August 7-11, 2013)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The list of interwiki links has been updated with more infomation and now also includes wikivoyage!
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: removed feature, introduced feature, Parent company
- Newest task forces: Global Economic Map task force
- Development
- Custom edit-summaries added for the majority of API modules
- Started working on implementation for ordering qualifiers in the JavaScript user interface
- ChangeOps for wbsetclaimvalue, wbcreateclaim, wbremoveclaims and refactoring of wbremoveclaim
- Fix handling of '0' value in API response
- Solved bugs related to copyright notice
- Some minor UI speed improvements
- EditEntity refactored
- Test cases improved
- Further work on URLs
- Work on implementing QueryEntity
- Open Tasks for You
- Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
- Hack on one of these.
Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!
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- Hi! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
- -- 19:54, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Mission 1 | Mission 2 | Mission 3 | Mission 4 | Mission 5 | Mission 6 | Mission 7 |
Say Hello to the World | An Invitation to Earth | Small Changes, Big Impact | The Neutral Point of View | The Veil of Verifiability | The Civility Code | Looking Good Together |
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The article 574.7 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- coincidence of no scientific or historical notability
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. BHBrunt (talk) 10:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- You can G7 this. Rich Farmbrough, 20:52, 8 August 2013 (UTC).
- Done. Dpmuk (talk) 21:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Your thoughts on the problem represented by, for example, (5796) 1978 VK5 ? Chrisrus (talk) 18:10, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Chrisus, I remain willing to complete this work once I am permitted to do so again.
- It does not really constitute a "problem" as such, asteroids are not like people where there are some billions we actively don't want articles on, for legal reasons not least. Asteroid stubs are harmless and verifiable.
- My main concern is that, given consensus to replace the stubs with redirects (rightly or wrongly) we do a good clean job, without loosing information, and without prejudicing re-creation of individual articles as circumstances change.
- Rich Farmbrough, 00:51, 3 August 2013 (UTC).
- I understand. Please, if you would, put Wikipedia:Minor planet articles that might fail NASTRO on your watchlist and comment or act as you may/would. Chrisrus (talk) 05:28, 3 August 2013 (UTC) Actually, you might want to see this first: Wikipedia:BOTREQ#Bot_needed_to_make_a_list Chrisrus (talk) 05:46, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- I thought I created an on-wikilist, of course that might be outdated now. The job could be substantially finished reasonably quickly, were I permitted to do it.
Rich Farmbrough, 22:59, 8 August 2013 (UTC).
- I thought I created an on-wikilist, of course that might be outdated now. The job could be substantially finished reasonably quickly, were I permitted to do it.
- I understand. Please, if you would, put Wikipedia:Minor planet articles that might fail NASTRO on your watchlist and comment or act as you may/would. Chrisrus (talk) 05:28, 3 August 2013 (UTC) Actually, you might want to see this first: Wikipedia:BOTREQ#Bot_needed_to_make_a_list Chrisrus (talk) 05:46, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Correction required - Barbie
[edit]Barbie includes the sentence "At 5'9" tall and weighing 110 lbs, Barbie would have a BMI of 16.24 and fit the weight criteria for anorexia." Firstly the wiki-link to anorexia is to the wrong article, and the correct article is linked earlier in the paragraph. Secondly BMI is not a "criteria" for anorexia nervosa unless relatd to other symptoms as I understand it, though unsurprisingly correlations exist. I would suggest the whole sentence is removed. Rich Farmbrough, 00:37, 9 August 2013 (UTC).
- Note that the figure of 17.5 is described (in our BMI article as well as other places) as having a relationship (we say "informal criterion", without a cite), other places say "People with anorexia generally have a BMI below 17.5. " to a plain wrong " Adults with anorexia have a BMI below 17.5." Rich Farmbrough, 00:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC).
- We should possibly have an article on SEED.Rich Farmbrough, 01:00, 9 August 2013 (UTC).
- We should possibly have an article on SEED.Rich Farmbrough, 01:00, 9 August 2013 (UTC).
Wikidata weekly summary #70
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- Discussions
- Events/Press
- Wikimania continues! If you are around make sure you come and say Hi!
- Wikidata meetup in the chapters village on Saturday at 1 PM at Wikimania.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Following numerous discussions we are happy to present the new version of the proposal that would lead to Wikidata supporting structured data for the Wiktionaries.
- There are now only an estimated 1,000,000 articles remaining with inter language links, down from the previous 26,000,000!
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: LAU (local administrative unit), Sikart (identifier in SIKART), symptoms (the possible symptoms of a medical condition)
- Frequently used for cities and other places, P17 ("country") indicates the sovereign state an item relates to. There now at least 100 items for most present day sovereign states. Leading is China (Q148) with 607,817 items, followed by Iran (!794) with 105,875 items and the United States of America (Q30) with 99,243 items. China rose from just 5266 items a month ago.
- Development
- Changeops implemented for all Api modules
- All Api modules now have better auto comments and custom summaries
- Work on claim ordering started
- Work on refactoring Api Tests
- Bug Fixes!!
- Open Tasks for You
- Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
- Hack on one of these.
The Signpost: 07 August 2013
[edit]- Arbitration report: Fourteen editors proposed for ban in Tea Party movement case
- Traffic report: Greetings from the graveyard
- News and notes: Chapters Association self-destructs
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Freedom of Speech
- Featured content: Mysterious case of the grand duchess
- Discussion report: CheckUser and Oversighter candidates, and more
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s/envoys/convoys/
The
massive movements of currency around the country went off well, although two
currency convoys were unsuccessfully attacked in an intense firefight near Samarra in late November 2003
Rich Farmbrough, 23:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC).
- No editing by proxy, please. Huon (talk) 23:34, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. Rich Farmbrough, 00:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC).
- Thank you. Rich Farmbrough, 00:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC).
The Signpost: 14 August 2013
[edit]- News and notes: "Beautifully smooth" Wikimania with few hitches
- In the media: Chinese censorship
- Featured content: Wikipedia takes the cities
- Discussion report: Wikivoyage, reliable sources, music bands, account creators, and OTRS
- WikiProject report: For the love of stamps
- Arbitration report: Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds case closes
Wikidata weekly summary #71
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- Events/Press/Blogs
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Wikivoyage is scheduled to get access to Wikidata data (aka phase 2) on August 26th.
- Listen to and watch beautiful Wikidata edits
- To support the inclusion of geographical coordinates in Wikidata, just about two months a new data type came available and d:Property:P625 "coordinate location" was created. Already 565,000 pairs of coordinates are now available on WikiData. Compare this to 870,000 coordinates on English Wikipedia or 1,500,000 items with d:Property:P17 "country", likely to have coordinates. Have a look at them on a map.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: approved by (P790), ISIL ID (P791), chapter (P792), Key event (P793), as (P794), distance along (P795), geo datum (P796), executing authority (P797), mission design series designation (P798), air ministry specification (P799), work (P800), notable work (P801), student (P802), professorship (P803), GNIS Antarctica ID (P804), subject of (P805). Italian cadastre code (P806) In Addition new properties to describe mushrooms were created: hymenium type (P783), mushroom cap shape (P784), hymenium attachment (P785), stipe character (P786), spore print color (P787), mushroom ecological type (P789), edibility (P789). These will allow to build the data for a mushroom infobox (as w:Template:Mycomorphbox).
- Newest task forces: Physics task force
- Wikidata helped remove 240,000,000 language links from Wikipedia's wiki text.
- Development
- Want to get an overview of what Pragun, our Google Summer of Code student working on Wikidata for mobile, is doing? Check here
- Worked on simple special page to make a query (bugzilla:52385)
- Worked on ability to move qualifiers
- Started improving API and Special Page tests
- Fixed links to Special:SetSiteLink in non-JavaScript interface (bugzilla:51914)
- ChangeOps, custom summaries and autocomments for SetStatementRank API module
- Fixed displaying “0” as label/description in autocomments
- Some minor fixes for rare crashes of editing UI
- Worked on moving Selenium tests to Cucumber
- Open Tasks for You
- See if you can connect some of these Wikivoyage pages to their item on Wikidata.
- Check if some of the items on this and this list can be merged. But be careful to only merge if they are really about the same topic! Help about merging is at d:Help:Merge.
- Update, expand and translate d:Wikidata:Introduction to make it easier for newcomers to understand what Wikidata is all about.
- Hack on one of these.
New user feedback
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User:AnnFran Morris has uploaded a lot of PD pictures by the artist Bill Lewis and got OTRS approval for them. Her talk page, however, consists mostly of huge warning templates from before the OTRS was obtained, and a block warning. It would be nice if someone were to leave her a personal thank-you note for getting the OTRS permission, and for uploading the images. Rich Farmbrough, 21:12, 17 August 2013 (UTC).
Done - see User talk:AnnFran Morris#Thank You!, and thank you for the heads up! Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 21:48, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Your article submission Hoërskool Voortrekker
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Hello Rich Farmbrough. It has now been over six months since you last edited your article submission, entitled Hoërskool Voortrekker.
The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply {{db-afc}}
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code. Please note, however, that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.
If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, copy this code: {{subst:Refund/G13|Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hoërskool Voortrekker}}
, paste it in the edit box at this link, click "Save", and an administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. —Anne Delong (talk) 01:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Fortunately, or otherwise, this article, for which I can claim less than 0.1% of the credit, has been live in mainspace for over a year. Rich Farmbrough, 17:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC).
- I am curious as to how long a notice we consider appropriate for the type of user who would have submitted an article and not touched it for six months. I can see no reason to rush, AFC responses themselves, when I last looked, took a good few weeks. Rich Farmbrough, 17:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC).
- It was discussed to death at WT:CSD, over many threads; it got so tedious that I unwatched the page. See Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 48#Proposed new criterion: abandoned article drafts et seq. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. It seems the general idea is promulgated by the fuss-budgets of the community, rather than those concerned with specific and somewhat relevant concerns. The matter would be simply resolved by dealing with AFC properly, but there seems to be a lack of resource for that - it was on my list of things to do. Rich Farmbrough, 22:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC).
- Thanks. It seems the general idea is promulgated by the fuss-budgets of the community, rather than those concerned with specific and somewhat relevant concerns. The matter would be simply resolved by dealing with AFC properly, but there seems to be a lack of resource for that - it was on my list of things to do. Rich Farmbrough, 22:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC).
- It was discussed to death at WT:CSD, over many threads; it got so tedious that I unwatched the page. See Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 48#Proposed new criterion: abandoned article drafts et seq. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #72
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- Discussions
- Events/Press/Blogs
- Report from Wikimania
- Wikidata meets Incubator
- Office hour on 26th
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Average edits per page is nearly 5 now.
- Wikivoyage is still scheduled to get access to data on Wikidata (aka phase 2) on August 26.
- Developers are working hard to also make the URL datatype available by August 26 but there are factors that are not in their hands so it might have to be delayed until the next deployment in 2 weeks. URL as a datatype will soon be available on test.wikidata.org. Please give it some thorough testing and report bugs.
- Outsch! (Help collect and fix paper cuts.)
- Did you know?
- 20 undescribed monsters
- Newest properties: separated from (P807), code Bien de Interés Cultural (P808), WPDA id (P809), academic minor (P811), academic major (P812), date retrieved (P813), IUCN protected areas category (P814), ITIS TSN (P815), decays to (P816), decay mode (P817)
- Development
- Prepared deployment of phase 2 on Wikivoyage
- Worked on ability to sort qualifiers and references inside a statement
- Started work on an api module to merge items
- Worked on special page to query for items with one specific property and value
- Cleaned up code for handling recent change entries from Wikidata in the clients (Wikipedia/Wikivoyage)
- Worked on generic script for populating sites table and better integration with WMF process for creating new wikis
- Setup new git repo for WikibaseMobile skin and extension
- Fixed SetClaim api module to properly mark bot edits in recent changes and advised pywikipedia maintainers about adding support for the module. SetClaim can be used to create claims with references in a single edit.
- Reviewed code for Google Summer of Code students
- Updated doxygen documentation
- Open Tasks for You
- Report a paper cut (see above).
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Hack on one of these.
The Signpost: 21 August 2013
[edit]- Recent research: WikiSym 2013 retrospective
- WikiProject report: Loop-the-loop: Amusement Parks
- Traffic report: Reddit creep
- Featured content: WikiCup update, and the gardens of Finland
- News and notes: Looking ahead to Wiki Loves Monuments
- Technology report: Gallery improvements launch on Wikipedia
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s/without making it too big to be impractical to carry./without making it so large it is impractical to carry./
Inadvertent double negative. Could also wiki-link AK-47.
Thanks Rich Farmbrough, 02:20, 27 August 2013 (UTC).
- What an awkwardly worded sentence that was. Fixed it and added the wikilink. Howicus (talk) 03:27, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Rich Farmbrough, 03:28, 27 August 2013 (UTC).
- Many thanks! Rich Farmbrough, 03:28, 27 August 2013 (UTC).
Wikidata weekly summary #73
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- Discussions
- Events/Press/Blogs
- State of the Map (September 6-8, 2013)
- Recent office hour logs now availible.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Abraham, Denny and Lydia sat down for an evening trying to capture what Wikidata is about in a video.
- Deployment! Wikivoyage now has access to the wikidata dataset and various other bugs have also been fixed (including the copyright warning)!
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: interchange station (P833), public holiday (P832), parent club (P831), Encyclopedia of Life (P830), OEIS ID (P829), possible causes (P828), BBC programme identifier (P827), tonality (P826), dedicated to (P825), Meteoritical Bulletin Database ID (P824)
- Newest task forces: Wikidata:País Valencià task force
- Development
- Work on allowing API module editentities to edit claims
- Work on entity / item redirects
- Work on support for moving qualifiers in API and Frontend
- Adding coordinates to diff display and improving diff display code
- Allowing site groups for language links on clients to be configurable (needed for commons)
- EntityId changes, we are now working on 0.5!
- Show snaktype in summary for novalue and somevalue snaks
- Further work on merge module for the API
- Wrote missing tests for various jQuery widgets
- Work on value formatters
- Continue on moving tests to cucumber
- Bug fixes for coordinates following the latest deployment
- Open Tasks for You
- Report a paper cut (see above).
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Hack on one of these.
The Signpost: 28 August 2013
[edit]- Recent research: WikiSym 2013 retrospective
- WikiProject report: Loop-the-loop: Amusement Parks
- Traffic report: Reddit creep
- Featured content: WikiCup update, and the gardens of Finland
- News and notes: Looking ahead to Wiki Loves Monuments
- Technology report: Gallery improvements launch on Wikipedia