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Yeah when I get the chance I will certainly help you, my suggestion is to change the wording on the RfA. You will probably still get a lot of votes. But not as many if you keep the way you have it. The wording makes it seem like you want the tools to much. But I will give you credit, you are being honest. Rgoodermote11:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your choice, I really thought you were going to make it. The only thing was that you needed a rewording..there are probably worse comments coming from some where else. Rgoodermote03:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do not suggest giving up, have them restore the RfA a little bit later and then reword. I have to deal with illness and this everday. Yet I am going to go for RfA March 24th..hopefully. Rgoodermote03:34, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can't but I know you can, if it is not to much could you make a userbox for people who fight vandalism while listening to music and users who edit/fight vandalism on their Wii. No rush, I just think those would be interesting. 22:42, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The Day header is clutter at the top of the article. Very few things are so important that they go above an article. Dab tags do. We have arguments about unref tags and such. Anything that doesn't have to go up there doesn't. If you're worried about the inconsistency with Month header, well, nobody told you to put Month header in either. You don't get to clutter up one set of articles and then claim that sets a precedent for another set. -- Zsero (talk) 14:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello The Obento Musubi, could you please point me out where's the discussion about how "fer" should be lowercased? Thanks, Korg (talk) 14:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually you're wrong. There are not any 'right' and 'wrong' spellings, only common and uncommon ones. The English language has no body to define it's content and even if it did, people would be free to ignore said body. Just because 99% of people spell something one way (e.g. "through") doesn't mean that the other 1% who spell it "thru" are incorrect, just that they are different. I am sorry if you don't understand this. I will go back to the earlier version. — Nicholas (reply) @ 16:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ʻukulele is the correct spelling in the Hawaiian language; "ukelele" is listed as a variant. My understanding is that we use the most common and accepted spelling of the word on Wikipedia, which is ʻukulele. As for whether it is "incorrectly spelled" or "spelt" as Nicholas writes[1], we only need to indicate that it is a preferred variant. See also: WP:SPELLING. —Viriditas | Talk22:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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A little humour-deprived today? The "nonsense" you deleted translates to "Real elite there, blanking a Wikipedia page. I fear your mad skills". This was intended as a humourous way of pointing out to the vandal the irony and futility of what he was doing. I do not believe that adding levity to warnings (nor, for that matter, the judicious use of l33t-speak) is inappropriate, particularly in this case. Dethme0w (talk) 07:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to change the contributions link in your signature; it points to the contributions of your old username (which no longer exists as a username after your name change). -Jéské(v^_^v:L5 Tediz Strong)06:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please take the time to read WP:SIG. also User:????? ??? is indefinitely blocked. If you want to be an admin you need to be able to communicate with people and enter discussions in a meaningful way the current signature doesnt exactly promote that. Gnangarra01:11, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The reason for not being more detailed was to encourage you to read the policy, the points I was hoping you would note is the specifically the one about signing with another users signature, while I'm sure that you didnt intend to do that there was a User with that name and the user happens to also be blocked. Gnangarra04:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice job. I would be happy to contribute. I am currently on wikibreak, but when I get back I'll dive right in. Could you please coordinate the new awards and the newsletter with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii/Outreach subpage? Also, I don't think we need a bot to deliver the newsletter, since we only have 32 members, and that can easily be handled by AWB, of which multiple members of the project (including myself) are registered to use. —Viriditas | Talk01:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am going to give RFA, one more shot. But I am not going to nominate myself...just because I feel conceded. Would you do the honors? I will not be opening it for maybe a month or so. But I think it should be there for me to work on while I study some more. Really hope the questions are Avruch's. Rgoodermote15:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again mate, again it may not get transcluded for a while. I am going to get a hold of Avruch as soon as I finish with my portion. By the way, currently (I added it) I have 5,864 edits and it grows by 100+ everyday. Rgoodermote22:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now that that is out, I am willing to say that the outlook is only grim for now...I will try again...both surgery and the RfA. One month from the 24th of this month I will try my RfA again and I will self-nom and if not to much to ask. With you backing, next time I will make a subpage to edit and work on it so that I can't mess up like this time. Rgoodermote17:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On 20 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stoccareddo, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
And I'm here to help. I can contribute to this effort in any way provided that I learn to do it if it's something technical. I am already helping reassess the articles that fall under the scope of the NWHI, and I can write stuff for the newsletter if you need me. SeanMD80talk | contribs04:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The newsletter is looking good, Obento. I've got a few more ideas for the newsletter you may like:
Consider merging the paragraph by Sean into the section on NWHI without offsetting it from the rest of the text and remove his sig, but work his name into the text as a lead contact. Discuss using the DYK system to bring more users to NWHI articles; explain how the project can employ the DYK strategy: one editor can significantly expand, while another nominates their work for DYK, resulting in more traffic and readers who can contribute. Focus should be on bringing the B-Class NWHI articles to GA/FA. Also consider whether the NWHI should become a workgroup/task force.
Add a section on "Collaboration", highlighting the ongoing work of WikiProject Food and Drink and WP:HAWAII, particularly in regards to Cuisine of Hawaii, and mention the great work done by User:BorgQueen. There are other ongoing collaborations, such as between WP:HAWAII and the LDS project on Laie Hawaii Temple, etc. The temple article needs a peer review and is very close to GA status, but needs a small expansion.
Great. Please thank User:Snocrates and Latter Day Saints WikiProject in relation to Laie Hawaii Temple. There are also several other outstanding collaboration requests with other groups that need follow-up (I can specify). It would be nice to use this occasion to give a "Collaboration Award" to both BorgQueen and Snocrates. Would you be interested in creating this award? Also, I would like to interview Jonny for the newsletter, but it will be very brief. —Viriditas | Talk06:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. Move the second pane from the top to the bottom, and delete {{Hawaii}}. Also, merge "About the Newsletter" into this bottom section. Keep the newsletter body for news about the project; nobody is going to want to read "About the Newsletter" every time. We're publishing this as outreach to our members, and the first thing we want to do is capture and maintain the attention of our audience. Always remember, the reader comes first.
2. Monthly focus - We can remove a lot of verbiage here - get down to brass tacks. You've already established in the the first pane that the focus of the special edition is the NWHI. It's ok to use the header to introduce it here. Instead of "Monthly focus" as the lead, just write, "Northwestern Hawaiian Islands" and introduce it with, "The focus of the April issue is the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands." Move the part about consulting SeanMD80 to the end, and move the "statement" to the top. Also, consult the list of 24 articles I've added to Sean's talk page here (click show) and discuss these articles, mentioning there are 24 articles at present, but pick only four, like Laysan Duck, Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument, French Frigate Shoals, and Kure Atoll to discuss. Pay particular attention to the comments Sean has added to the table as there is enough content here for six newsletters! We want to encourage members to contribute to these articles, but without actual links, we aren't giving them any pointers. Ask Sean to help you expand this section if you aren't sure.
3. Did you know? You can remove the "prominent" part, as well as the references to my name. DYK strategy is part of every project, so it's not a unique idea. Just say that WikiProject Hawaii wants to encourage the use of DYK to help expand stubs and bring more traffic to the articles from the main page. There's no need to quote me or refer to me by name. Also, mention that using DYK on the 24 articles related to NWHI is a good way to get the project involved in improving these articles.
4. Task Forces - You did a good job on this section, but let's focus on NWHI. Discuss whether we need a task force for only 24 articles. The benefit is that we can better assess this part of the project and help monitor its growth. Sean would be a good candidate to manage it. You can also remove the first person part ("It was recommended to me") and my name, as using task forces is part of every good project. The question becomes, do we need them? If you take a look at the talk page for WP:HAWAII, you'll see that some interest has been generated for a Hawaii history task force, so you may also want to mention that too. These questions are open to discussion, which is the point of alerting the members. Ideally, we would ask them to continue this discussion on the project talk page.
5. Collaboration - Very nice job here; please also mention that we are creating a collaboration page and plan on future collaborations with the Catholic project (Hawaii churches); the Volcano project; and the Plant project.
6. Membership corner: Interview with Jonny-mt: A new member of the project who has actively worked on article development (Papakolea Beach) and the most difficult aspect of the project - dispute resolution. We want to briefly ask Jonny how the project should deal with WikiProject Hawaii disputes currently disrupting eight of our articles, most of which are priority topics. Also ask Jonny about the Hawaii Portal, his plans for it, and what we need to do to get it up to featured status. —Viriditas | Talk10:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
hey I noticed that you did some of the original work on the Free Radio page. I am a new wiki user and have updating the free radio page lately and was wondering if you could let me know what you think. What things should I add? Are there ways to make it more user friendly? Any advice or help you can give would be much appreciated. Thanks! :) Pass3514 (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I finally removed all instances of your old name on my talk page and archives..quite a pain to be honest with you. Just wanted to let you know. Anyways happy editing. Rgoodermote03:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I've reverted the template name back to where it was. We're having some issues with the template right now and I'm trying to trace the problem. The shorter name is used for the majority of all tags and was originally setup for use with WatchlistBot, which we are trying to get back up and running. There's really no need for 18 characters when you can type 8. —Viriditas | Talk08:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A Beautiful Cherry Tree in Spring BloomTheres nothing like seeing a field full of spring flowers.
Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Spring {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! ~~~~
If you live in the Southern Hemisphere and are entering the season of Autumn not Spring then I wish you a happy First Day of Autumn {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! To spread this message to others, add {{subst:First Day Of Spring}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Thanks for your kind words and thoughts, but I don't really need the tools. I would much rather rely on someone like Jonny. :-) —Viriditas | Talk21:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fantastic work, Obento. One thing we should fix is the into to NWHI. The part that says, "we wish to get the following four articles to at least start-class or above" should be changed to ""we wish to get five B-Class articles to at least GA-Class or above", and the articles are:
You might want to ask Sean if he would prefer to substitute one Stub and one Start-Class article instead of 5 B-Class. That might actually be better; I chose to go with 5 B-Class articles since they are closer to our goal, but others may disagree. (It just occurred to me, this is the reason we should use DYK on the Stub and Start-class articles - maybe you can mention that) You can also mention that we will attempt to establish a collaboration with WikiProject Protected areas, National Register of Historic Places WikiProject and WikiProject Birds. I'll have more comments for you later, but I really like the new layout. That was very creative of you to use the second pane as a lead-in and announcement section; I wish I would have thought of it myself! The "Message from SeanMD80" should be merged into the intro of "Northwestern Hawaiian Islands" as it concerns the listed material above; just give Sean credit as an "Editor" - we don't need the heading. I would still prefer to see the Editor information moved from the second panel into the About section on the bottom, but I like your idea of using the second panel as a lead section; very smart! I would just change "Interview with jonny-mt" to "Members corner", and note you are interviewing him in a brief sentence, after all, you are using the second panel to say you are interviewing him (just mention you are doing so in the Members corner section). —Viriditas | Talk09:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great. BTW, if you want some really good material to add to the newsletter, read the comments that Sean left in his latest article reviews. I'm leaving them here for you take a look at, below; Yet another reason he should be added as an "Editor". If you are feeling creative, how about adding this assessment to a template, inserting it into a new subsection of the WikiProject Hawaii Assessment page, and linking to it from the newsletter? It would work really well! If you do, it would be good to note that Sean did the work, and be sure to thank him! —Viriditas | Talk09:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please just keep me as an editor for now, no need for "Chief". You're the chief, so you might as well get used to it! Heheheh... :) —Viriditas | Talk09:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I respecfully request a demotion to "Editor". I am perfectly happy with you as "Editor in Chief" and I do not want the responsibility of coordinating the newsletter or the role of "Chief". Please consider my request. —Viriditas | Talk10:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Hawaii Assessment: Northwestern Hawaiian Islands
Thanks. Did you get a chance to read Sean's reply to you on his talk page? The material you currently have under "Members' Corner - Written by SeanMD80" should be completely merged into "Northwestern Hawaiian Islands". There's no need to say "written by SeanMD80" (he's given credit at the bottom); we want to move the information about the improvement drive before the list of articles. Sean's also made some more suggestions on his talk page. "Member's corner" should be concerned with the interview only, whereas the material by Sean is concerned with the NWHI. The lead-in, "focus of the April issue is the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands" can be moved to the second pane, above the "props and shoutouts", and the third pane, beginning with "Northwestern Hawaiian Islands should start with something like the following. Please work with Sean to expand this. It reads better to incorporate the text as a project goal in news format, rather than as an informal "message from Sean":
Northwestern Hawaiian Islands
April's improvement drive focuses on the oldest islands in the Hawaiian archipelago, the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands. Many animal and plant species, such as the Laysan Finch and the Nihoa Fan Palm, make the NWHI their home and are protected by the Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument, the largest marine wildlife reserve on the planet. User:SeanMD80 has reassessed 23 NWHI-related articles, leaving detailed comments for improvement. 5 B-Class articles are targeted for GA-Class or above, while 9 Start-Class articles need to reach B-Class. 18 NWHI articles - 9 Stub and 9 Start-Class - are targeted for expansion using the Did you know system; if you are expanding these articles, please submit a DYK to link the article on the main page and increase visitor traffic. View the full list, and contact Sean for questions and collaboration.
As described in Sean's assesments, there is one problem that extends across the board and applies to many articles, that being that they need to be broken into sections, and content needs to be added. The islands follow the form "Geology/History/Ecology sections" and wildlife follow "Description/Range/Behavior/Conservation." A "reserve sign" award will be given to those users that make an effort to expand articles and/or submit DYKs.
BTW, it would be a good idea to move all the discussion about the newsletter to the talk page of that month's issue. What do you think? —Viriditas | Talk03:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A couple things: I was going to handle distribution, so you don't need to place the newsletter on the council page just yet. Plus, you asked Sean and I to edit the newsletter directly, but we can't view it with the show disabled. I'm going to remove it from the council for now, until we have a final version. —Viriditas | Talk03:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm confused, why did you remove "A "reserve sign" award will be given to those users that make an effort to expand articles and/or submit DYKs" with the edit summary "not true"? —Viriditas | Talk03:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you have any desire to take over distribution, that's fine too. You can request AWB access if you want to use that tool, or we can submit the newsletter to a number of bots that are used for that purpose. Otherwise, myself or User:MPerel are available to distribute. Keep in mind, we do not want to distribute on April Fool's Day for obvious reasons. I would prefer to distribute April's issue on March 30, although I welcome discussion on the matter. We still need information on the two new awards you and Jonny created, and Sean's new award should be added to the awards page. Ideas for increasing membership should be discussed. There's also the issue of the watchlist and the defunct WatchlistBot that needs discussion. We also want to thank User:Ling.Nut for both creating and bringing Pūnana Leo to GA-Class in January. I recommend that we award all of the people we are thanking in the newsletter with one of the two awards created by you or Jonny. —Viriditas | Talk08:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A new member of the project who has actively worked on article development (Papakolea Beach) and the most difficult aspect of the project - dispute resolution. We want to briefly ask Jonny how the project should deal with WikiProject Hawaii disputes currently disrupting eight of our articles, most of which are priority topics.
Make sure and link to the disputed articles in the first question. The separate portal questions can be combined into one question. And you should probably strike out the question about using his adminship to better the project, as that is a conflict of interest and could be considered unethical, and we don't want to put Jonny in any uncomfortable position. Also, you attributed that question to me, and that's not correct, as I would never ask such a thing. It would be best to just remove it. Thanks for your continuing good work. —Viriditas | Talk23:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've answered the questions on my talk page, but I just realized that it would probably be easier for you if I just copied-and-pasted them over. So here are my responses; thanks for taking the time, and please let me know if you need anything else! --jonny-mt01:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. So, as you know, WikiProject Hawaiʻi has a section on its talk page regarding disputes. How do you think we should solve the current eight topics regarding some of our highest priority articles?
A: Given that the section of the WP Hawaiʻi talk page dedicated to disputes was last updated in August 2007, I think the first thing to do it take a look at the issues with fresh eyes. We have a number of new editors to the project and a number of old editors who have gained more experience in the past six or so months, and I think that if we take it one issue at a time we have a good chance of settling at least half or so of the eight outstanding issues with minimum fuss just by going back and reexamining the issues.
Naturally, some of the more tricky ones may require dispute resolution or discussions on the new NPOV noticeboard, but I think that a bit of patience can go a long way.
2. WikiProject Hawaiʻi also has its own portal, The Hawaiʻi Portal. What plans do you have currently to better the Hawaiʻi Portal?
A: When I first started working on the portal, my goal was to tie up all the loose ends and make it easy for others to contribute content. I think we're at that point now, and so the current focus should be on adding new featured biographies, anniversaries, quotes, and ʻŌlelo. There's also been discussion of revamping the portal to give it a bit of a nicer look--I certainly wouldn't mind, but it definitely takes a back seat to adding new content.
3. What do you believe are the steps necessary to make our portal gain featured portal status?
A: I honestly think that if we can get enough content on the portal, it should be no problem to breeze through the rest of the criteria and get the portal up to featured status. The only other really major factor holding back P:HI is the fact that it is largely self-referential in that it encourages user contributions--naturally, once we get enough contributions that problem should pretty much take care of itself :)
4. If you gain administrator privileges (it has a really bright outlook so far, and congrats), then how would you use your administrator privileges to better WikiProject Hawaiʻi?
A: Viriditas has already answered this question for me below--even as an admin, I would still simply be another editor when it comes to article writing.
Regarding your edit to my barnstar images[26]: (1) Do you really think you should be editing other people's user pages? If you felt I'd been wrong to use that image, wouldn't a note on my talk page have been more appropriate? Give people a chance to do the right thing before you force it on them. (2) I did find your page. I just didn't bother mentioning it to you. (3) Regardless of which, I made no direct claim about having found your secret page. You don't own that image. That's a cool star image which I was using to represent all the hidden pages I've found because the images in most of them are fairly lackluster and I only wanted to use one of them in that dropbox. For a while, I included the award from the first hidden page I found, but I've found far too many of them to crowd the page with any of them. DoczillaSTOMP!04:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Look at the licensing statement on the image's page. Once you release it for public domain use for any purpose, creation does not mean ownership any more. DoczillaSTOMP!04:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome, you certainly earned it! Btw, I'd love to help out and distribute the newsletter tomorrow via AWB as Viriditas mentioned above. Let me know if that suits you. Hope you had a fun vacation : ) --MPerel 06:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay, I've been offline and won't be back for another hour or so. The newsletter is ready, but we need to consider two things. One, for many reasons that I will not go into right now, the default delivery option should provide a standard link to the newletter, not the collapsed form itself. The newsletter should also give people the option to stop receiving it or to change the delivery format, usually by linking to the outreach page with a "Delivery option" section with signup sections for "full delivery" or "no delivery". This means we don't really need the collapsible function, which I admit looks great, but unfortunately represents an extra step for readers; simply providing a link to the newsletter in full is a good way to start and is the most polite way of distributing the first issue. I'll make some changes to the outreach page in a bit to show you what I mean. Also, the current title format of the newsletter makes it difficult to put all the newsletters in one category, so I would recommend changing it. More later. —Viriditas | Talk09:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Aloha. The April 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 15:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
