Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Statistics

Idle query - which page has featured most in DYK?

I'm working on brushing up an existing page, and will be putting it forward twice as a non-bold link in DYKs connected to stubs I am going to improve. It made me wonder whether there is a way to work out the page that has featured most in DYK, and how many times it has appeared? DrThneed (talk) 01:48, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey, DrThneed! Ran a quick python script for ya :) here's the top 50 non-bolded links, along with their counts:

1. United States: 928
2. World War II: 801
3. India: 602
4. United Kingdom: 472
5. Australia: 463
6. Association football: 442
7. England: 436
8. Major League Baseball: 408
9. France: 338
10. Norway: 302
11. Germany: 286
12. Oregon: 281
13. American football: 274
14. World War I: 274
15. Canada: 270
16. Japan: 256
17. American Civil War: 246
18. New York City: 234
19. Soviet Union: 229
20. Russia: 229
21. Poland: 222
22. Singapore: 219
23. London: 215
24. Baseball: 204
25. Romania: 204
26. California: 199
27. Nazi Germany: 193
28. Cricket: 192
29. New Zealand: 191
30. Mexico: 189
31. Texas: 169
32. Scotland: 161
33. Royal Navy: 161
34. College football: 160
35. Michigan Wolverines football: 158
36. Louisiana: 156
37. African American + African Americans (page move): 174
38. Europe: 151
39. Ottoman Empire: 150
40. China: 149
41. Italy: 148
42. United States dollar: 143
43. Israel: 142
44. Johann Sebastian Bach: 140
45. Supreme Court of the United States: 140
46. Tang dynasty: 137
47. Syria: 137
48. Byzantine Empire: 136
49. United States Navy: 135
50. Republican Party (United States): 135

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 08:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the list. Makes me think why we don't link current articles in articles but in hooks, or WWII and other such common things. I like Bach's position ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

well, we really shouldn't be linking most of these in hooks... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 08:53, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

that addition to the DYK rules might be less controversial than the recent debated one, but I - trouble-maker no. 1 at DYK - will not make it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Would it be easy to run just the DYK of 2022 - cause I'm sure we link them less anyway now compared to 2009 when I started, - in today's hooks, I also don't link Bach when also mentioning his composition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:53, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Sure thing! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Yegods, we've linked United States 900 times? What possible reason could we have for linking that? Valereee (talk) 14:51, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

1. Bob Dylan: 12
2. Oper Frankfurt: 11
3. George Balanchine: 11
4. National Football League: 10
5. Major League Baseball: 10
6. TikTok: 9
7. Taylor Swift: 9
8. Supreme Court of the United States: 9
9. Manga: 9
10. Soprano: 8
11. 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine: 8
12. Kanye West: 7
13. Doctor Who: 7
14. Billie Eilish: 7
15. The New York Times: 6
16. Regine Velasquez: 6
17. National Collegiate Athletic Association: 6
18. David Bowie: 6
19. Play-by-mail game: 5
20. Centre College: 5
21. COVID-19 pandemic: 5
22. Adele: 5
23. United States Army: 4
24. Symphony No. 9 (Beethoven): 4
25. Royal Swedish Opera: 4
26. Round (music): 4
27. Port Vale F.C.: 4
28. Metropolitan Opera: 4
29. La Scala: 4
30. Jerome Robbins: 4
31. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis: 4
32. Guinness World Records: 4
33. Flying ace: 4
34. Dmitri Shostakovich: 4
35. Broadcast license: 4
36. Atlanta: 4
37. Association football: 4
38. American Civil War: 4

Thank you, no more countries and Bach, and plenty of other music :) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you both - those are really interesting lists! I wasn't even sure what type of pages would be showing up, although suspected a large showing of some sort of sports. Shows our preoccupations in a new way, anyway! I am slightly amused by the presence of New Zealand in the first one, we are punching above our weight there I think! DrThneed (talk) 04:54, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

"All-time leaders" for hooks that get over 20,000 clicks?

According to the "here's how" link in the DYK notification sent to talk pages, hooks that get over 20,000 clicks are eligible "to be listed among the all-time leaders". Since the page Ida Hunt Udall received 24,003 views (1,000.1 per hour), I thought that meant it would be appropriate to follow that instruction and add it to the appropriate page. However, the wiki link to "all-time leaders" just leads to the main Did You Know Statistics project page. Where would one add pages that get over 20,000 clicks? The all-time DYK pageview leaders project page states hooks must receive over 25,000 views, not 20,000. Is that a typo? Or has the requirement been raised? And what precisely is the requirement? 20,000 and 25,000 are both different from the 800 views per hour (which would be 19,200 in 24 hours).

Apologies for any trouble; just looking for some clarification. Many thanks to all y'all who maintain the statistics. P-Makoto (talk) 04:33, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

@P-Makoto: that page needs a complete overhaul, it's just a mess – I'd say it should probably be the top 100 imaged and top 100 non-imaged. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 04:35, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Fixed small error on monthly page due to article title change

I noticed a reported error on the July 2019 page due to a subsequent page move (the article's current title was 'unoccupied' at the time the hook ran, so pageview stats could not be found), and fixed it. This involves one of my hooks from a couple years back, if anyone wants to check my work. (diff, pageviews link) – Reidgreg (talk) 14:12, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Talk page updates

I had a DYK posted yesterday and so was just following up the number of views. Some points arising:

1. The number of views for the day is not the same as the number recorded automatically at WP:DYKSTATS. The latter was 7,898 while the pageviews link was 7,919. Is there some adjustment for the half-day slot or what?

2. I added the number to the {{DYK talk}} template on the article talk page using its views parameter. It would be a time-saver if this was done automatically.

3. I wanted to make a similar update to the notification on my talk page as I like to keep a record. What's especially puzzling is that the notification doesn't use specific template like {{DYK talk}}. Instead, the user notification is made from more basic components like {{ivmbox}}. Why is there not a version of {{DYK talk}} designed for user talk pages?

I've discussed this before with @Theleekycauldron and Cielquiparle: but others may be interested too, please.

Andrew🐉(talk) 14:16, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson:

1. The adjustment is for background views – every hook loses the views of either the preceding two days or the preceding and following day, whichever is the better deal.
2. Doable, but I'd like to make some adjustments to the template first. There's also no accomodation for that in the {{article history}} template.
3. The notification template is made from {{UpdatedDYK}}/{{UpdatedDYKNom}}. If you want a DYK talk on your user page, you can always just copy and paste that template, nothin' stoppin' ya.

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:43, 25 August 2023 (UTC)