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Some queries about biography
Dear Sir/Madam, 1. While I am editing an infobox in a biography, should I not cite any reference? 2. In the infobox, should I write like - |death_place = Mumbai, India or |death_place = [[Mumbai]], [[India]]? Thanking you, --P.Shiladitya (talk) 13:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- P.Shiladitya, since Mumbai, India are common enough for Bollywood related pages, there's no need to link them. If the info which you intend to add to the infobox is cited to a reliable source in the main body then you can add that but if not then at least add a source in the infobox. However, don't add religion until very necessary and also the relatives info unless they are notable enough to have their own article. Hope that helps, --Skr15081997 (talk) 13:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Dear @Skr15081997: Sir,
- Thanks for your kind reply. I am new in wikipedia and want to learn rules. In the article Reema Lagoo, I named a part of the section 'Personal Life' as 'Death' and added a reference from Huffpost in the infobox, that all were reverted. And thus I asked the above question.
- Whatever, thanks a lot from the bottom of my heart.
- --P.Shiladitya (talk) 15:33, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- @P.Shiladitya: It looks like you're talking about this reversion] by Editor5454. The chief complaint seems to be that you created a unique section for death, which Editor5454 didn't feel was necessary. I don't quite understand why the references were removed. Some editors don't feel it necessary to include references in the infobox or in the lead if the references to support the statements (like a death date) are present elsewhere in the article body, but I consider this a very shortsighted approach to article maintenance. Vandalism is prevalent, and having prominent references for often-vandalised data like birth/death dates, location of birth, etc. are very useful and don't require other editors to search an entire article for confirmation of a piece of information. Though we don't need excessive referencing, there is no prohibition on referencing in the infobox or lead, and some infobox parameters like
|release_date= (in the film infobox) invite the addition of references. From WP:LEADCITE: Any statements about living persons that are challenged or likely to be challenged must have an inline citation every time they are mentioned, including within the lead. Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. I don't see why it would be any different in the infobox. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:12, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Hi! The reason I removed the infobox reference was, like you mentioned, due to "excessive referencing"; three references in the body already supported the said content. A person's death on a particular day would obviously invite enthusiastic contributors to the page on the said day and the following few days. But, there should not be a debate on the date of death. On the date of birth, there could be, which I understand and thus, have promptly left a reference next to the birth date in the infobox. I am no very experienced contributor myself, and am not aware of the 'extremely lengthy and hard to read Wiki guidelines' myself. But, thank you for bringing this to my notice. I shall henceforth be careful and leave a reference in the infobox wherever required. I believe content should be added keeping in mind that these pages are here for eternity, and not a few days or weeks :) P.S.: Cyphoidbomb, you are doing a great job replying to questions and concerns of fellow contributors in such detail. Thank you! Editor5454 (talk) 17:41, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Skr15081997:, @Cyphoidbomb:,
- Dear Sirs,
- Thanks a lot for your reply. It would help me a lot in editing. I hope, I will get your valuable help in future.
- Thanks @Editor5454: for participating in friendly discussion. I asked this question to know more and thus, kindly do not mind anything.
Thanking again, --P.Shiladitya (talk) 05:40, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- No, I am always up for a constructive discussion. So, thank you for initiating one. Also, just to clarify on why I removed your edit "[[ ]]" on Mumbai ('linking'), is because the subject's birth place was Mumbai too (known then as Bombay), which I had linked. Generally no page is linked to, more than once from an infobox. But, I suppose adding "(now Mumbai)" next to Bombay is necessary. Anyway, thanks! — Editor5454 (talk) 09:59, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Should Golden Kela Awards, Ghanta Awards, Filmfail Awards and the likes be added to accolades lists? List of awards and nominations received by Sharon Stone and List of awards and nominations received by Bradley Cooper (both FLs) includes Golden Raspberry Awards. --Skr15081997 (talk) 13:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- I strongly agree. --Kailash29792 (talk) 16:29, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Films of India awards
Hey guys, has anyone ever heard of the "Films of India Online Awards"? Their web presence appears to be here, but the anonymous nature of it with so little detail seems really sketchy to me. I first encountered this entity here when someone added a wixsite.com address at Neerja. The anyone-can-set-up-a-Wix-website notion bothered me, so I looked elsewhere on the project for instances of this site being used, then looked deeper. If anyone has any info on whether or not it's an award that anyone cares about (call me skeptical, since it only appears to have existed for 2 years) then I'll probably remove the instances. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
The admins says that they need a reliable sources.The Source used for the malayalam movie Pulimurugan is catch news.How is it reliable.It is not like any news channels or indian express.How is it possible to use it.Please clarify for what reason it is used.Who is the editor in that.What is his qualfication.Muhammed.suhail (talk) 18:00, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
admin please give reply against this problem as of my point of view in the section of highest grossing indian films the list and the editing is been done in fan base especially in the section of malayalam movie. A source is used there is catch news which is unknown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammed.suhail (talk • contribs) 16:15, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- For anyone else who has information about Catch's reliability, I answered a portion of Muhammed's question here, where I told him that Catch News is owned by Rajasthan Patrika and was founded by Shoma Chaudhury, who was fired after the site had been established. Jupitus Smart has previously expressed that he doesn't think Catch should be considered reliable. Does anyone from the Indian cinema task force have any opinions about this site? If nobody is willing to stand up for it, then it, like any other random website could wind up being disregarded as a reputable source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- Extensive discussion on Cyphoidbomb's talk page. Refer there. Jupitus Smart 16:10, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Jupitus Smart: Are you aware of WP:ICTFFAQ? I started compiling that a while back to help build a resource for this community, but it's not a strong document yet and many of the listed sites have never been discussed. Not sure if you have any time or interest in working on it, but it exists if you're interested. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:01, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: No I was not aware of WP:ICTFFAQ, though I am a little too pre-occupied now to actually contribute in any effective manner. I will try and opine on each publications once I make a full return. Jupitus Smart 03:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Aadhi Raat Ke Baad
There is an AfD that is relevant to your topic area at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aadhi Raat Ke Baad. Betty Logan (talk) 14:32, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Reliability of assamtimes.org
Hello everyone, I would like to know if we can or can not accept assamtimes.org as a reliable source to support notability for films and actors? As per their Join us page anybody can join them and share write ups and ideas which they will endorse according to their editorial policy but I can't find what their policies are. I also posted this question at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Thank you – GSS (talk|c|em) 05:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
2.0 film was moved
In case anyone cares, 2.0 (film) was moved to 2.o (film). There is some justification at Talk:2.o (film), but I'm not certain it was a sound decision. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:47, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
I have started a discussion to split the article National Film Award – Special Jury Award / Special Mention (Feature Film). I hope ICTF members would spare some time to join the discussion. Regards.--Let There Be Sunshine (talk) 09:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi folks, Vijay (actor) is a bit of a mess, heavy with puffery and the usual unsubstantiated claims of critical/commercial success, etc. It's the sort of article that's going to need a lot of fine-tooth cleaning. Any chance some of the GA regulars could add it to their watchlists and/or their To Do lists? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:31, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Regular editors keep an eye on Big B (film). Recently there was an incident of information loop. When a sequel of the film was announced, some reputed national news sites copied content regarding the original film's reception from its Wiki page. Unfortunately it was a damaged version with unsourced contents and fan puffery, originally added by two IPs -  and . I have removed it and pointed out the incident in the talk page. It is possible in future that the editors could reinstate the content with those sources that circular reported it. Indeed, I already reverted one.--Let There Be Sunshine (talk) 11:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)