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RFC notifications bot down

I've written a brief message at User:WhatamIdoing/MassMessage to all the editors listed at Wikipedia:Feedback request service#Wikipedia policies and guidelines, to let them know that they shouldn't expect any notifications for the foreseeable future. Could someone please send this?

Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey @WhatamIdoing, just a friendly reminder to use the request format when making mass message request. A little glitch during MMS delivery could lead to unintended spam on pages that aren't relevant. Thanks for your attention to this! – DreamRimmer (talk) 01:35, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
@DreamRimmer, where is the request format documented? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Not documented anywhere, but you can see above requests. It would be easy for us to send this way. :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:32, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Found it, see here. – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:35, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
At Wikipedia talk:Mass message senders § MassMessage Delivery Requests, if you select the "add request" link, then the text box will be preloaded with the standard format. (The format is essentially based on the one I used back in 2014.) isaacl (talk) 07:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes Sent – DreamRimmer (talk) 08:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, DreamRimmer.
Isaacl, the instructions at Wikipedia:Mass message senders#Requesting a mailing say only "Requests for mailings may be made on the talk page" (that's a link to this talk page in general, not to the section heading). Perhaps that should be updated? WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
@WhatamIdoing Just scroll down a bit and find the "Add Request" option below the MassMessage Delivery Requests section. Once you click on it, a ready-made format will open in the edit box, making it super easy for you to fill in the details as needed. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Personally I think requests should be split off onto their own page (see previous discussions in 2018, 2022, and earlier this year). There doesn't appear to be much interest, though, amongst those who hold the mass message delivery privileges. In the meantime, I've changed the wikilink for the text "made" (which points to the specific section in question) so the full link text is "made on the talk page". isaacl (talk) 18:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

GAN backlog drive message

Would someone please deliver me the GAN backlog drive message my fellow collaborators are receiving. I have reviewed one successful GA-Queen Camilla- and nominated one-Catherine, Princess of Wales- both after October last year. Yet I have received no messages from MediaWiki message delivery on my talk page. Please take up the matter for consideration so that I receive talk page messages in the future.

Thanks for your assistance! Regards MSincccc (talk) 14:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

@MSincccc, the drive coordinators sent out the mass message to a mailing list that was last updated during the August 2023 backlog drive, which explains why you haven't received the March drive notification. If you'd like to receive this March drive message, just let me know, and I'll be happy to send it to you manually. Also, just for your information, this venue is for requesting mass message deliveries, and requests like this should be made at relevant venues, such as the GA talk page, which was the right venue for this request. Thanks! – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:58, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Delivery requests

Request for mass message delivery: February 2, 2024

Would someone please deliver notifications as required by a recent request for comment before implementing phab:T355462.

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
@HouseBlaster could you please add a line at the bottom of the message text explaining why they are receiving this message, because we don’t generally spam talk pages of users who have not subscribed to any messaging list. Also, I think blocked users should be removed from the list. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
No problem at all! Taking a look at the RfC, it seems like everyone should be good with it, and I don't expect any issues. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:58, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Yes Sent Checked 3 random pages. Appears to have sent correctly. – DreamRimmer (talk) 06:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: February 22, 2024

Would someone please deliver an invitation to join NPP

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... -- EN-Jungwon 15:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Yes Sent -- EN-Jungwon 15:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: March 1, 2024

Would someone please deliver the latest S++ issue

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! Maybe the signature timestamp should be changed? Aaron Liu (talk) 00:58, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Doing (t · c) buidhe 02:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Sent with current timestamp, if that was a concern. (t · c) buidhe 02:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Welp, I meant maybe change my signature to the actual timestamp of sending, not add another signature. Thanks anyways! Aaron Liu (talk) 02:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Aaron Liu If you want a message sent out under your name, but a current timestamp, please end it with ~~~ (in my case, this expands to (t · c) buidhe) then the person sending the message can add five ~ which prints out just the date without the signature. (t · c) buidhe 03:50, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: March 1, 2024

Would someone please deliver WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 26

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! AryKun (talk) 10:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... – DreamRimmer (talk) 12:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 Done – DreamRimmer (talk) 12:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: April 7, 2024

Hello - could you please send the below? First time making a mass message request, so please let me know if anything's not right. I've included a line explaining that this is a one-off message and why they're receiving it. Mailing list: User:Jonathan Deamer/Leeds meetup list Subject of mass mailing: Leeds Wikipedia meetup on Saturday 4th May (this is already included in the message) Content of mass mailing: User:Jonathan Deamer/Leeds meetup message Requested delivery date: ASAP Thanks very much for your help! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 20:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... TheDoctorWho (talk) 20:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 Done Checked five random talk pages and it seems to have delivered properly. TheDoctorWho (talk) 20:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: May 1, 2024

Would someone please deliver WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 27

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! AryKun (talk) 02:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Is anyone going to respond to this? AryKun (talk) 15:12, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
DreamRimmer: pinging since you've delivered these before and it's getting ridiculously delayed. AryKun (talk) 05:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 Doing... – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done AryKun, feel free to ping me for future requests if you need instant delivery. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much, much appreciated! AryKun (talk) 05:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
@DreamRimmer and AryKun: I attempted to send this earlier yesterday. However, my preview page showed the newsletter bracketed by two pieces of cruft, {{../Issue-nav}}, as well as the Page to be sent as a message: field not accepting anything outside of Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Newsletter/027. Having only recently been granted this right, I thought it better to let more experienced editors handle this. Now I'm curious as to what I had to do to send it out cleanly. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Issue-nav is marked as a "noinclude", which means that it is not supposed to be included in the mailing message. Instead copy the content of the template page except for what is in the noinclude. Part of the issue may be that the tree of life newsletter is much larger and more complex than other newsletters. (t · c) buidhe 03:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
I thought there was a chance that the noinclude portion wouldn't be sent out with the mailing, even though it was included in my preview. If that wasn't the case, I wasn't going to risk having what would be mystifying cruft landing on 73 user talk pages. And I didn't go to the trouble of setting up a test mailing list, one with only my user talk page address. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: May 9, 2024

Would someone please deliver An invitation to the Wikimedia U.S. Mountain West Online Meeting

Here are the details

Thank you for your assistance!  Buaidh  talk e-mail 05:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:07, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: May 13, 2024

Would someone please deliver the invitation to Women in Green's June 2024 edit-a-thon.

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! Grnrchst (talk) 09:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done Grnrchst – DreamRimmer (talk) 06:17, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: May 15, 2024

Would someone please deliver An invitation to the rescheduled online meeting of the Wikimedians of the U.S. Mountain West 05/21/2024

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance!  Buaidh  talk e-mail 22:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done Buaidh – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: May 21, 2024

Would someone please deliver the WikiProject Scouting Newsletter: May 2024

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance!--evrik (talk) 02:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

 Doing... TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done Checked eight random pages and it has delivered properly. I saw the date, but didn't register that it lacked a timestamp until after delivery. Facepalm A few users may have to manually archive it from their talk page when the time comes. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Well, I bollocksed this request up. In the template, Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/Newsletters/May 2024. I placed some code at the bottom placing the template in a category:
<noinclude>[[Category:WikiProject Scouting newsletters|2024-05-01]]</noinclude>
Now, Category:WikiProject Scouting newsletters is populated with all the userpages that got the newsletter. Can anyone recommend a bot that can go back and fix this? --evrik (talk) 04:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done I ran it through AWB and think I got them all removed. It appears this wasn't the first time this happened. A number of talk pages had the category from last July's newsletter. TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:39, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: May 25, 2024

Would someone please deliver WP:MED Newsletter

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! Ajpolino (talk) 14:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: July 10, 2024

Would someone please deliver Proposed changes for WikiProject Wikipedians aged 70 and older

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Thanks for your assistance!  Buaidh  talk e-mail 00:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

 In progress. Buaidh, I'm noticing a link to a disambiguation page on the word inclusivity; you might want to address that before sending this out. Also, consider changing the notes to use {{notelist-talk}}. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
I've made the changes you suggested. Please let me know if you see anything else that might be changed. Yours aye,  Buaidh  talk e-mail 01:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that! Yes Sent. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: August 1, 2024

Would someone please deliver the latest S++ issue

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Liu (talk • contribs) 20:41, July 31, 2024 (UTC)

@Aaron Liu:  In progress. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
 Done, and it looks like they all shipped out at 04:00 UTC! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: July 5, 2024

Would someone please deliver WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter 51

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! Ktkvtsh (talk) 19:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@Ktkvtsh:  In progress. It seems no one got to your request earlier as it was on a page with no watchers. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
 Done —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: August 9, 2024

Would someone please deliver An invitation to a U.S. Mountain West online meeting

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance!  Buaidh  talk e-mail 23:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

 In progress. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes Sent. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: September 2, 2024

Would someone please deliver WikiProject Wikipedians aged 70 and older

Here are the details

Many thanks for your assistance!  Buaidh  talk e-mail 01:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

 In progress. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
 Not done. Buaidh, I'm really not seeing why a mass message would be needed to simply advertise your attendance at WCNA. The users on this mailing list received an invitation to the WikiProject not even two months ago, and the new message doesn't have anything different to say on that front. As such, this feels too close to the type of "spamming" that is disallowed by the canvassing guideline for me to action this request. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
@TechnoSquirrel69: I've deleted that personal note. (I'm not sure how it was spam.) Will you deliver the notice now? Thanks,  Buaidh  talk e-mail 03:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
The part I considered too close to "spamming" was the repeated notification of the same list of users with too little time between messages and not enough of a reason to do so. I don't think anyone would have an issue if you personally reached out to users who have previously shown interest in the project, but I tend to be very conservative when it comes to mass messages, especially when it's not clear the recipients want them. Some of the users on the mailing list haven't edited for years, and at least one has been indefinitely blocked. I welcome a second opinion from another mass message sender or administrator in case my interpretation of the guidelines is off, but I do not currently feel comfortable actioning this. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
I agree with TechnoSquirrel. Mass messages can be a useful tool for communicating about actual news—like picnics, backlog drives, coordinator elections, and the like. I've also used the permission for stuff like "this article you heavily contributed to got nominated for featured article review". Where they are not useful is when there is no news being conveyed by the message. (t · c) buidhe 03:59, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
OK. Thanks anyway,  Buaidh  talk e-mail 23:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: September 9, 2024

Would someone please deliver Administrator Elections: Updates & Schedule

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Thanks for your assistance! –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

@Novem Linguae: I can handle this request if you'd like, but you are aware that mass message permissions come bundled with the mop? ;) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
TechnoSquirrel69, they are aware that mass message permissions come bundled with the mop, so you can go ahead and send this. – DreamRimmer (talk) 00:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty busy this week so I prefer to crowd source it. I also don't want to risk messing it up by adding my signature or something silly like that :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
I had a sneaking suspicion that an interface administrator would know what's in the administrator toolkit (lol), but it never hurts to ask! I put a second pair of eyes on everything and took the liberty of a quick copyedit to the message. Yes Sent. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Awesome. Thanks a lot for your help. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Request for mass message delivery: September 11, 2024

Would someone please deliver the invitation to WikiProject Women in Green's October 2024 edit-a-thon.

Here are the details

Thanks for your assistance! Alanna the Brave (talk) 21:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

 In progress. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes Sent. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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