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- 1 Known only as beetroot in the UK
- 2 Name change to beetroot
- 3 Baked beetroot
- 4 Beta vulgaris
- 5 ..."The green, leafy portion of the beet is also edible. "
- 6 Betaine
- 7 Moving current beet article to Beta vulgaris, redirect beet here
- 8 possible error
- 9 How to show cultivar names
- 10 "Beetroot dye may also be used in ink"
- 11 Requested move
Known only as beetroot in the UK
- I am in Canada, I have never heard it called "Garden beet" ... only Beetroot 184.108.40.206 (talk) 07:49, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- English beetroot is rounder (moe globular) than the roots in the current picture - see http://www.deliaonline.com/ingredients/ingredients-a-z/ingredients-a-c/Beetroot.html for illustration. Not quite sure if that's worth mentioning, but the shape of the roots just looked wrong to me. --220.127.116.11 (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
It's the usual problem of American editors refusing to accept that their local naming conventions aren't used anywhere else. See the rutabaga talk page as a further example. Even now the article still claims beetroot is also known as the table beet, garden beet, red beet or informally simply as beet. Not outside the US it isn't. --Ef80 (talk) 11:46, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- How dare a people from another country an ocean away and on a different continent come up with a name for a damned vegetable that isn't the same as that used by the knowitall British. Americans don't mind that the British say beetroot while they use beet, but it sure seems to put British knickers in a twist. BTW, I already knew we (Americans) said beet and the British used beetroot while you Ef apparently didn't. With more than six and a half (6.5) thousand million (billion to Americans, whoops we did it again) people outside the U.S. it takes a special arrogance to claim to know what name they'll use or not use for a certain item. My name is Al Cook and I live in the U.S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:39, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Name change to beetroot
My understanding of article naming is that the most common name will generally be used unless other factors are involved. Google gives: Beetroot - 1,440,000 hits Garden beet - 49,600 hits
"Beetroot" is 30 times more common than "Garden beet"
Unless the existence of "other factors" can be shown here then the name of this article needs to be changed.
My mother (in the UK) was very fond of beets as a baked/roast vegetable. FWIW a Google search on baked beetroot give around 270,000 hits, boiled beetroot give approx. 160,000. Should it be added? 22.214.171.124 (talk) 06:48, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
..."The green, leafy portion of the beet is also edible. "
The next sentence talks about cooking it. However, here in Oztralia young beetroot leaves are served raw in a salad, b oth for taste and for colour. May I go ahead and include that in the article? Old_Wombat (talk) 08:44, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
In the section on effects it says that betaine "is important for cardiovascular health" and that homocysteine "can be harmful to blood vessels and thus contribute to the development of heart disease, stroke, and peripheral vascular disease".
There's a citation for this and I looked it up (http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/betaine-000287.htm). It says "researchers don't yet know exactly how high levels of homocysteine and heart disease are related" and "scientists don't yet know whether homocysteine itself is harmful, or whether it is just an indicator of increased risk for heart disease". I don't think this citation actually supports the claims I refer to. It doesn't say whether homocysteine is a risk factor or a marker of risk burden. It actually says they don't know either way.
I've seen a paper that concluded that adjusting for renal function "eliminates the relationship between tHcy and markers of vascular risk in subjects with proven cerebrovascular disease" and that "Our data are thus consistent with the hypothesis that mild renal impairment is an independent risk factor for vascular disease and elevated tHcy simply a marker for reduced GFR. The underlying relationship between tHcy and renal function is not altered by long-term B-vitamin supplementation and it is possible that, by treating homocysteine, we may be shooting the messenger rather than attacking the true risk factor." http://atvb.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/28/6/1158
I think that those claims I've highlighted are controversial at best (from the various scientific papers I've seen, I get the impression they have actually been disproved) and that they were never supported by the reference cited. Prak Mann (talk) 19:32, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Moving current beet article to Beta vulgaris, redirect beet here
I apologize if this is the wrong place to say this i am new to the wiki community. I believe the information from Source: USDA Nutrient Database(http://ndb.nal.usda.gov) is incorrect due to a typo. the value size is per 100g. should this be per 10g? According to nutritional facts from many other sites would suggest this to be the case.
- Although 10 g may seem like a more practical serving size for meal consumption, it is standard in science, nutrition and the USDA nutrient tables to express individual nutrient content per 100 g, as displayed in the Article table. One company, Conde Nast, publishes a detailed analysis of Nutrition Facts which can be displayed for different serving sizes via the pick list under the food title, shown here. --Zefr (talk) 18:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
How to show cultivar names
Before we start an edit war, I'd like to better understand the WP:CULTIVAR standard. My take on it is enclosing the cultivar name in quotes is only needed if the genus, or genus x species, is specified with it. Since the cultivar names are given by themselves, I don't see the need for quotes. There's lots of articles listing variety names that don't use quotes, for example List of sweetcorn varieties. n2xjk (talk) 20:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
- I've just added a citation to the ICNCP to WP:CULTIVAR, to make it easier to check. This convention is rather new, as can be seen in the code of nomenclature, which mentions earlier use of cv. and var. A lot of otherwise quite authoritative literature still says "variety" when "cultivar" is meant, thus continuing the confusion with Variety (botany). I'd say that in this case the species name is implicit from the topic of the page, so that it's okay to list Beta vulgaris 'Crosby's Egyptian' as simply 'Crosby's Egyptian', but the quotes make it clear that it is a cultivar and not an informal designation. By that reasoning, List of sweetcorn varieties is poorly named and not well typeset for an encyclopedia; it's quite informal and could be polished. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 21:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
"Beetroot dye may also be used in ink"
A google search for "is beetroot dye used in ink" returns a result from fountainpennetwork.com, giving recipes for beetroot-based ink. Is this an acceptable source, and should I cite it? Benjamaster1 (talk) 15:04, 30 October 2014 (UTC)