Talk:Super Bowl XLIV

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Super Bowl XLIV:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
  • Expand: Add pictures. PICTURES! This page needs some of the actual game.
  • Update: Update the page to have the MVP section, hopefully with a pic, and replace all past tences with present
  • Other: Add a few references, maybe one ref from each major national newspapaer per drive?

International telecasts[edit]

There was also telecast in Slovenia on Šport TV channel. I can't add this to list, because I'm not an established user. Please, someone add this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYG (talkcontribs) 08:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Could someone verify the delay? german television aired the half-time show of The Who, experiencing a several second long lag. the audio was running ahead of the video feed. the official announcement of the ARD (german broadcast station) explained this as a world wide technical glitch, that they couldn't fix in post... sooo... could anyone confirm this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.90.219.47 (talk) 11:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there were 2 feeds. One produced by CBS and one by NFL Network. On CBS everything was OK. On NFL Network there was a delay. Almost all Europe had NFL Network's feed so almost all Europe had delay in Half-time show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYG (talkcontribs) 12:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I added Slovenia now so this is OK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYG (talkcontribs) 14:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Referee[edit]

I keep hearing it will be Scott Green. Im unable to edit at this time. Keep your eyes peeled.jC... 20:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skittlecar1 (talkcontribs) 17:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Here is the link everyone. jC... 01:33, 3 February 2010 (UTC) http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4881428 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skittlecar1 (talkcontribs)

Yes check.svg Done Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:39, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Update?[edit]

Since the West Side Stadium is dead now, did the NFL say anything yet? Are they going to wait and see if another NY stadium becomes available? --feitclub July 7, 2005 05:00 (UTC)

  • The NFL has not really made an official announcement yet. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 7 July 2005 07:28 (UTC)

In the section about the mancrunch ad, it mentions a bowl of popcorn. But in the commercial, it is a bowl of potato chips. This should be fixed. http://mancrunch.com/media —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chairman87 (talkcontribs) 18:54, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

The Mancrunch ad does NOT show the other man being "disgusted" -- just surprised. It's humorous but not negative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.96.39 (talk) 21:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Please change "much to the disgust of the other man present" to "much to the surprise of the other man present" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.127.244 (talk) 17:03, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Removed Citations Box[edit]

The information on the Pro Bowl is pretty much common knowledge, as most of it can be realized by looking at a sports calender, or watching five minutes of the 2009 Pro Bowl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shep.Hayes (talkcontribs) 02:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit]

I've noticed the super bowl logo wikipedia has is the wrong logo. On the super bowl 44 website the logo is different. The football between the field goal thing on wikipedia has the middle line of the football going all the way down while on the website the line doesn't go all the way down. also the logo should be darker.

Sedna10387 10:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

You are correct and I have access to the correct one. I will fix this. ASPENSTITALKCONTRIBUTIONS 05:41, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Calendar[edit]

"The game will be played on February 7, 2010, the latest date of any Super Bowl played during the calendar year."

Have there been any Super Bowls that were not played during the calendar year? LordAmeth (talk) 09:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

It means it will be latest in the calendar a Super Bowl will be played -- early Super Bowls were played in mid-January, then late January, now early February. –Howard the Duck 14:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

The Who[edit]

"The selection of The Who is notable as the band performs the theme songs for each TV series in the CSI franchise, all of which air on CBS - which will air this Super Bowl." Removed-Unverified and confusing. Are the episodes being aired? What season? Sephiroth storm (talk) 14:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Whats even better was their song seclection. Can anybody say CSI PROMO?--Subman758 (talk) 01:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

External links[edit]

i think http://www.superbowlxlivlive.com/ should be removed from the external links since it doesn't have any content yet and has no relevance at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickdet (talkcontribs) 18:01, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Bad link: Sport1 is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_1 not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.248.136.34 (talk) 23:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Internet[edit]

Will there be internet coverage? 169.233.57.145 (talk) 05:12, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I am also curious about this. I read somewhere that CBS will be streaming this (first superbowl where that's the case) but I cannot verify. Anyone have a good source? Timneu22 (talk) 22:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

International telecasts[edit]

  • [Flag|Grecce] [Nova Sports],
  • [Flag|Turkey] [Spormax] also unsilable HD 01.00[EET] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yagmur.semiz (talkcontribs) 23:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

New user so I can't edit the page. Can someone add the italian tv that will broadcast the game please?

Rai Due and Rai Sport Più live broadcast with italian commentary, ESPN America live broadcast with original english commentary and Dahlia Sport pre-recorded broadcast with italian commentary.

Thanks Cleropaleis 12:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cleropaleis (talkcontribs)


France: Viewers in France will be able to watch the event on W9. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldoreille (talkcontribs) 14:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

W9 is a tv channel not a radio network,

The link needs to be moved in the "international telecasts" section —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldoreille (talkcontribs) 10:01, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Also Spanish Canal+ is a TV Station, not a Radio Station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.129.36.60 (talk) 22:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

For the record, Finland is in EET timezone, thus it's 01:00 EET (instead of the 00:00 CET). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kynde (talkcontribs) 11:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Ed Hocklee[edit]

Ed Hocklee has Ben confirmed by teh NFL to be the Super Bowel XLIV refree —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.21.135.132 (talk) 22:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Really is that why Scott Green Officiated the Game. Also you need to learn how to spell.--Subman758 (talk) 02:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
LOL ASPENSTITALKCONTRIBUTIONS 17:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Game Line[edit]

The game did open at -4 Colts. However, due to the volume distribution the line has shifted to -6 Colts. A significant move in gambling lines for a Superbowl absent the injury of star players. The line can be confirmed at any major sports betting site or ESPN.com's odd aggregation service. http://espn.go.com/nfl/lines

References for shifting spreads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_betting http://www.docsports.com/line/moves.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.76.215.54 (talk) 15:24, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Uniforms[edit]

What does everyone think about the possibility of adding the teams' uniforms somewhere on the article? We could follow the Wikipedia soccer model. On every big soccer final there are uniforms of the two teams displayed somewhere (for example: 2009 UEFA Champions League Final and 2006 FIFA World Cup Final). I think the choice of uniforms are of historical importance and it would benefit the Super Bowl articles to have a small picture or representation of them somewhere. --Tocino 20:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

The soccer uniforms you mentioned are rendered by Template:Football kit, which uses simple drawings and sub-templates to display small approximations of those uniforms. A similar elaborate template for American football was created at Template:American football uniform, but it is not widely used. What IS widely used on these American football articles, however, are actual images for the uniforms, like File:NFCS-Uniform-NO.PNG and File:AFCS-Uniform-IND.PNG. But unlike Template:Football kit and Template:American football uniform, these images are tagged as fair use and must comply with all the criteria of WP:NFCC. Zzyzx11 (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Do you think we should add Template:American football uniform -style pictures for this article? I would be in favor of it. --Tocino 00:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I have always been neutral to that template. On the one hand, its nice to have something that is free content and thus does not have to follow all the WP:NFCC criteria. On the other hand, the most significant part of an American football uniform, that primarily distinguishes the appearance of one team from another, is the team logo on the helmet. This is probably one major reason why Template:American football uniform has not become widely used and fair use images are primarily used instead. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
I'd have to agree with Zzyzx11 on this one. The most distinctive way of recognizing teams is their helmets and the logos on their helmets, but they aren't free content, so it's a bit of a drag including them on every article. 174.103.16.44 (talk) 02:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
It should also be noted, regardless a which team wear their dark or light jerseys during this game, the super bowl uniforms are different than the ones used during regular season and traditionally have a patch affixed with the Super bowl roman numerals on them. Maybe i'm just being too critical ASPENSTITALKCONTRIBUTIONS 05:35, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
How can the Saints extend a winning streak that started during a game they didnt participate in? (Super Bowl 39, the supposed start for their six game white jersey winning streak.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.11.51.211 (talk) 15:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Records and milestones[edit]

There should be such a section, no? it would include information like it being the first time the Saints reach the Super Bowl and Matt Stover being the oldest player in Super Bowl history.[1] --ChaChaFut (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

The content about this being the Saints first Super Bowl is already in the very first paragraph in the article, and in the "Teams" section, so that does not need to be repeated again. As for listing records and milestones, you can model it after last year's article, Super Bowl XLIII#Statistics. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
After the on-side kick, one commentator said it was the first during a Super Bowl that was not in the fourth quarter while another disputed this. Is there any way to confirm and cite this in the future, and if so I think that would fit as a milestone for this Super Bowl. — CobraWiki ( jabber | stuff ) 03:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
It was not the first onside kick in Superbowl play but it was the first onside kick attempt before the fourth quarter. --ChaChaFut (talk) 17:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Game Section[edit]

Should we add a real-time game development section? 1&10 for the Colts after a failed Saints drive.

Buggie111 (talk) 23:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I have no problem with it. Doc Quintana (talk) 00:57, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Unlock the article.[edit]

I have something useful to add to the article. Colts are the greatest (talk) 23:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Sya what you want to add on the talk page and someone will add it, if its relevant.--Jojhutton (talk) 23:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Though somehow, with a name like yours I sort of doubt your definition of 'useful' meshes with Wikipedia's... HalfShadow 23:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Just a heads up, the protection of this page just expired 15 minutes ago, so there's bound to be quite a bit of vandalism between now until the end of the game, unless some sort of extension is put in place. 71.113.41.243 (talk) 00:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Page re-protected[edit]

Aw...you lose, kids. See you next year. HalfShadow 00:27, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

Yeah that's what they want you to think, but now everyone's edits must be approved first by god like edit kings.--Subman758 (talk) 02:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, because clearly leaving the page unprotected and allowing the raving lunatics that pass for football fans these days leave their opinions every ten seconds or so while at the same time keeping track of the game was a clearly superior choice. Are you this thick in real life or is this some sort of on-line persona thing? HalfShadow 02:53, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Oh don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you. I was just making light of the first thing you see on the wikipedia home page, mainly because I am just a smart ass.--Subman758 (talk) 03:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Performances[edit]

I though Justin Bieber was suppose perform at the 2010 Superbowl? ha ha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.130.76 (talk) 01:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

MVP[edit]

I'll add the MVP as soon as it's announced. --NYCTrainFan (talk) 02:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

If the Colts won, it would have been either Addai or Manning, now, I think it's either Roby or Breese.

Buggie111 (talk) 13:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Dockers ad clarification[edit]

I am unsure as to whether my account is sufficient to edit the locked article. I've had it a while but not many edits. Still, better to err on the side of caution and defer to the powers that be. Because it really doesn't matter who adds the information as long as it's correct, right? (This is in response to the vandalism stuff.)

Anyway, the Dockers ad suggests you can get a free pair of pants by accessing the URL they gave. I had my wife access it at home and the ad is misleading. Apparently you can enter to win a pair of pants. So I believe the article should read and a Dockers ad to promote a chance to win a free pair of their pants instead of and a Dockers ad to promote a free pair of their pants. Access the site yourselves (dockers.com/freepants if memory serves) and look at it yourself; you can even use the URL as reference in the article.

Thanks editors for your efforts to keep Wikipedia credible. NathanJ1979 (talk) 07:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

FYI: I corrected one bit of the Doritos section. There were 4 (not 3) ads and they were consumer-genereated, not necessarily viewer-generated. The ads were not created by Doritos or Frito-Lay, but by consumers. They were not necessarily viewers of the game. Thanks, Infoholder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infoholder (talkcontribs) 16:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Request an edit[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} This is the first time a team won the Super Bowl after losing to Tampa Bay during the regular season (known as the Tampa Bay Curse). Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.200.51.114 (talk) 07:56, 8 February 2010

I don't really think this is encyclopedic information, really more like hokus-pokus. And honestly, I've never personally heard of the "Tampa Bay curse". ASPENSTITALKCONTRIBUTIONS 17:36, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
As far as hokus-pokus goes that final paragraph in the lead section seems of similar accord: that this is the first time an NFC team won a Super Bowl succeeding a Pittsburgh Championship. 96.61.192.3 (talk) 20:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Celestra (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}} The fourth quarter "game summary" paragraph doesn't mention the first TD (Shockey) at all, and probably ought to mention the controversial challenge and revision of the call on the Lance Moore conversion attempt. http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/07/reversed-call-gives-saints-crucial-two-points/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.210.3.16 (talk) 15:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Already done Celestra (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}} "Brees" misspelled in the scoring summary when referring to that 2-point conversion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 18:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC) SPECIFICALLY, I found: (Drew Bress pass to Lance Moore) which should be (Drew Brees pass to Lance Moore) I was going to suggest the successful challenge regarding such play, but that suggestion was made above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 18:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Done Celestra (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll be watching the game, so I'll fix these concerns and elaborate (if anything is needed) on the game summary. Of course, this will be in 3 hours.

Buggie111 (talk) 19:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Pro Bowl[edit]

According to the article: "A total of 14 players from the Super Bowl participants – seven each from the Colts and the Saints – did not play in the Pro Bowl."

I'm thinking that the combined number of players that didn't play in the Pro Bowl was closer to 90.

Perhaps this should be reworded as: "A total of 14 players from the Super Bowl participants – seven each from the Colts and the Saints – were selected to the Pro Bowl. Given the new schedule, they were unable to participate."

(And BTW, Hooray Saints!)

--Spencersoft (talk) 07:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Page hits[edit]

Just for those interested yesterday this page had over 168ooo page views; [2] Ottawa4ever (talk) 12:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Last year had more views. Maybe because the game was closer. –Howard the Duck 12:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Katrina[edit]

Does it have to be necessary to mention Katrina in this article? (see Teams section) It's supposed to be about the superbowl, not Katrina.

Internacional Telecast[edit]

In Argentina the Super Bowl was brodcasted by ESPN and Fox Sports. So anybody who can add it, please do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.47.88 (talk) 16:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

expand on pre game music artists?[edit]

I watched the super bowl 44 pre game show on cbs, and saw performannces outside the stadium by Daughtry and Steve Winwood. I didn't know if you would consider adding them to the pre game performers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jas84173 (talkcontribs) 18:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I say why not add it? It is interesting and was part of the game festivities.--Cooly123 23:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


You should change the section to this..

Chris Daughtry, Steve Winwood and Queen Latifah performed during the Super Bowl pre-game tailgate party, which started at 2 p.m. Carrie Underwood sang the national anthem, and Queen Latifah performed "America the Beautiful."

Barenaked Ladies played the Super Bowl Saturday Night event with O.A.R. and Robert Randolph & The Family Band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jas84173 (talkcontribs) 18:22, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone really care...[edit]

...That the Colts are 0-2 in Super Bowls when wearing blue jerseys? I call excessive statistics on this one. Grandmasterka 21:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

This is interesting lets add it!--Cooly123 23:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talkcontribs)

And they are 2-0 wearing white jerseys. Jrgilb (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Onside Kick[edit]

Ok something needs to be done about this.[3] [4]

Which one actually recovered it? They both couldn't have done it. Gune (talk) 19:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Officially, Casillas is credited with the recovery, but he stated that Reis was the one who actually came up with it. Tampabay721 (talk) 19:43, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
When I saw Casillas, I started thinking: Ikerr Casillas? What the heck was he doing in the Super Bowl? Well, guess not. I personally think it should be Casillas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buggie111 (talkcontribs) 00:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Although Casillas was originally credited, the official game book for the game (see top of page 10) shows Reis recovering the ball.[5] --Arxiloxos (talk) 09:20, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Postgame Section?[edit]

The section in the fourth quarter where it said Breese made y throws, x of which were complete, Who would have known" yada yada yada. Shouldn't that be in a Postgame section?

Buggie111 (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

After looking at the articles for the last two games, rather than making a new section, I think that part should be put under the statistics section, and then the part that's under the MVP note right now, about the Saints having been down 10 points, can go with that bulleted list at the bottom of the stats section. Tampabay721 (talk) 18:47, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Original location?[edit]

In the article it says that NYC was going to be the original host, pending the completion of the new stadium. But on ESPN's NFL Countdown show the day of the game, they said the game was originally set for New Orleans, and was moved because of Katrina. So which is it? Fred8615 (talk) 14:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

There are currently two citations on this article that verify that the game was originally going to be in NYC. I didn't see the ESPN's NFL Countdown segment you are referring to, so either they were wrong or that they were actually talking about something else. Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

It's 4.5 spread, Colts, not 4[edit]

They opened up as 4-point favorite, but closed as 4.5...

DON'T CHANGE IT!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.80.23 (talk) 01:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining your edit here, but your source is one commercial betting site's line and, as far as I can determine, is not a reliable source by Wikipedia standards. News reports had the line from 4 to 5, as noted in the sources I've used. --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)