- 1 Your edit to Benjamin Banneker
- 2 Many edits
- 3 Wikilinks
- 4 Washington, D.C.
- 5 Reply to WikiLinks and Washington, D.C.
- 6 August 2008
- 7 Steve Fossett
- 8 Ben Banneker Valued Picture Nomination?
- 9 Gutenberg Book Hot Link
- 10 VPC
- 11 Re:
- 12 Peer review of the national mall article
- 13 David Stuart
- 14 MLK Memorial
- 15 Hi Corker!
- 16 A kitten for you!
- 17 Washington and Old Dominion Railway
- 18 National Mall border
- 19 WP:CITEVAR
- 20 Citation templates
Your edit to Benjamin Banneker
Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Benjamin Banneker, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. ——Mr. E. Sánchez Wanna know my story?/ Share yours with me! 01:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Your many individual edits via "Save page" overwhelm the history page of an article. See for example the history of Jeffereson Pier. Please use "Show preview" for each individual edit until you are satisfied with the result of all your edits. Only then should you click "Save page". — Joe Kress (talk) 23:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I notice the work that you've put into articles like History of Washington, D.C., and would like to thank you for your help in improving the page. However, it appears that the article suffers from over linking. I would invite you to take a look at WP:OVERLINK, which describes what words should actually be linked. Best, epicAdam (talk) 20:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I would like to discuss with you the reasons that I have reverted your edits to Washington, D.C. I have also left a message on the talk page that outlines my reasoning. Please respond there first before we continue to make and undo each others edits. Best, epicAdam (talk) 21:40, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. As for the edits to image captions, I outlined my reasoning at Talk:Washington, D.C.#The L'Enfant Plan. The Library of Congress credits L'Enfant for the plan. I feel that crediting Ellicott for the engraving is adequate but not for the plan itself, since it wasn't his idea. According to the National Park Service, Ellicott made very superficial changes to the plan. The overall idea of the traffic circles with the National Mall in the center is very much L'Enfant's plan, to say otherwise is certainly misleading. Further, during the article's FA process it was decided by the editors that information about the design of the City of Washington would be placed under the "Cityscape" section, which is where it is mentioned. Ellicott's role in the final design is mentioned in the footnote. I wouldn't really be opposed to moving that information into the main article text, if necessary. Best, epicAdam (talk) 22:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just a note about talk pages: You can just respond on your own talk page, it's not necessary to go back and forth if you don't want to. And superficial was the wrong word choice. You're absolutely correct that L'Enfant bristled at the changes that were being made, it's exactly for that reason that Washington let him go; L'Enfant wanted to micro manage every aspect of the city's construction. Despite the changes made to straighten the roads, in the grand totality of it all, the city's design still is credited to L'Enfant. It is for that reason that I object to the engraving, the "Plan of the City of Washington", being credited to Andrew Ellicott only. It may have been his drawing, but not totally his plan. The Library of Congress' collection does not credit that drawing to Ellicott and I am hesitant to credit him in the caption. Best, epicAdam (talk) 22:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I thought I'd take a minute to step back a little from the Wikipedia jargon and explain why some of us are so insistent about the caption for the 1792 plan for Washington, DC. The short of it is that everything that's in Wikipedia has to be verifiable information derived from a source deemed reliable by Wikipedia standards. One's own opinions and points of view, no matter how sensible or well founded, aren't properly included in the encyclopedia. See WP:OR for more on that. It's your view that the 1792 plan is most fairly described as Ellicott's plan, not L'Enfant's, and you've been captioning it as such in Washington, D.C. and other articles. There are two problems with that. The first - actually not really relevant here - is that it just makes no sense to give full credit to Ellicott when his plan so clearly proceeded from L'Enfant's original conception. The second problem, and the one that matters for the encyclopedia, is that all of the sources that discuss that engraving describe it as "L'Enfant's plan". Some - most? - acknowledge Ellicott's role and adjustments to the plan, but *none* of them call it "Ellicott's plan", to the exclusion of L'Enfant. As best I can tell, that characterization is entirely yours, and is not based on any reliable source at all. In fact it is contradicted by the sources. For those reasons the caption as you'd like to have it really can't stand, and after looking at the discussion, I think almost all editors would agree with me.
Reply to WikiLinks and Washington, D.C.
Please restore my edits. If you believe that there are too many links, feel free to remove those that you believe to be excessive or redundant.
You stated that Ellicott's changes to L'Enfant's Plan were "very superficial". L'Enfant himself considered them to be far more important. His letters strenuously objected to the changes in his plan that Ellicott had made after L'Enfant had offered his letter of resignation to George Washington.
L'Enfant believed that lines of sight should be limited. His plan therefore offset some streets around plazas and elsewhere so that people would see buildings, creating a neighborhood effect. Ellicott (perhaps because he was a surveyor) preferred distant views. He therefore straightened Massachusetts Avenue and removed some of L'Enfant's plazas.
The books the the History of Washington, D.C. Wikipedia article references describe much of the above. L'Enfant's letters are consitent with this.
Perhaps one of the most significant changes that Elllicott made to L'Enfant's Plan was to radically change to shape of the present Judiciary Square area. L'Enfant's plan provided for a curved south border of the area, which L'Enfant expected would contain the Supreme Court. Ellicott eliminate the curve to produce plaza with straight sides. The current position of Indiana Avenue NW between Pennsylvania Avenue and Judiciary Square reflects this change. The Judiciary Square area would look very different if Ellicott had not made this change. Corker1 (talk) 22:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I have recently found a copy of a letter that Ellicott wrote that suggests that Ellicott himself considered that his plan was his own (and that of his brother), rather than a revision to L'Enfant's plan. His letter states:
- "Philadelphia, Feby 23, 1792
- On my arrival at this City, I found that no preparation was made for an engraving of the plan of the City of Washington. Upon this representation being made to the President and Secretary of State, I was directed to furnish one for an engraver, which with the aid of my Brother, was completed last Monday and handed to the President.
- In this business we met with difficulties of a very serious nature. Major L'Enfant refused us the use of the original! What his motives were, God knows. - The plan which we have furnished, I believe will be found to answer the ground better than the large one in the Major's hands. … ".
- (Reference: Ellicott's letter to the commissioners on engraving the plan of the city … in Bob Arnebeck's Web Pages Accessed February 5, 2009.) Corker1 (talk) 01:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edit(s) to Washington, D.C., it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. JohnInDC (talk) 00:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
FYI, I reverted a recent edit you made to the lead section of Steve Fossett. It was accurate and supported by the references, but it didn't seem to follow the guideline for an article lead section (WP:LEAD), specifically regarding conciseness. There is a section further down in the article where such detail would be more appropriate.
I appreciate your contribution and I hope you continue to help keep the quality of this article at its current high standard and help improve the overall quality of Wikipedia. Thank you. —Danorton (talk) 19:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Ben Banneker Valued Picture Nomination?
Hi. I noticed you removed the Ben Bannaker nom. First off, thanks for spotting the misinformation. However, if it's so incorrect, why is it still on the article? Just a thought. Also, I restored the text of the nomination and put it back on the VPC page so it can be closed the correct way - that should be done in the next few days. Finally, thanks for all your hard work on the wiki! :) Intothewoods29 (talk) 20:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- The misinformation is in the "Mythology of Benjamin Banneker" section of the Wikipedia article about Banneker. The "Mythology" section explains the reasons that some of the text in the Charles Alston cartoon is misinformation. Please also note that the Charles Alston cartoon was a Wikipedia Featured Picture Candidate (FPC) in April and May 2008, but was not promoted to FP (See Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Benjamin Banneker). Corker1 (talk) 21:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Gutenberg Book Hot Link
- Darrell Greewood: The link that you added to the text duplicated a link that was already in the reference section. Wikipedia articles should not contain redundant links. Additionally, Wikipedia articles should not contain external links within the text. Such external links distract readers, especially those that are not interested in the specific link. For that reason, I removed the external link that you added to the text.Corker1 (talk) 20:06, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
|You are being contacted because you have in the past participated in the Valued Picture project. The VPC project is suffering from a chronic lack of participation to the point that the project is at an impasse. A discussion is currently taking place about the future of this project and how to revitalize the project and participation. If you're interested in this project or have an idea of how to improve it please stop by and participate in the discussion.|
Peer review of the national mall article
I just noticed your submission of the National mall article for peer review. I added some general comments but the article still need quite a lot of work before I can identify specifics. I hope this helps though and please let me know if you have any questions. --Kumioko (talk) 20:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Your improvements to this article look good. My only question is where you got the information that he and his wife had 16 children? The source I found mentioned only "5 daughters and 2 sons". Now, that might very well have been only the ones that survived to be adults, but I couldn't find any other number. Brianyoumans (talk) 16:19, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- See the following reference: Johnson, R. Winder (1905). The Ancestry of Rosalie Morris Johnson: Daughter of George Calvert Morris and Elizabeth Kuhn, his wife. Ferris & Leach. This is presently reference number 1 in David Stuart. The reference states on page 30 that the Stuarts' children were "said to be sixteen in number". Other sources also provide this information. A direct quote from a letter that one of Eleanor Stuart's daughters wrote states that Eleanor Stuart had borne twenty children. The twenty children included the four children that Mrs. Stuart had with her first husband, John Parke Custis. Corker1 (talk) 22:43, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Dear Corker1, I admire your work on the page for the Martin Luther King, Jr National Memorial - which I worked on as well - but wanted to mention that unless I am wrong leads do not need references if the information is included and referenced in the text of the page. I see you've added references and referred to the statements as "undocumented," but (again, unless I'm wrong), I don't think that's necessary. (I did make sure all the facts in the lead were included and referenced in the article.) Do you think my understanding is wrong? Best wishes - and by the way, I visited the memorial and it is very, very impressive. NearTheZoo (talk) 22:14, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
- Found the answer to my own question:" The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis by editorial consensus. Complex, current, or controversial subjects may require many citations; others, few or none. The presence of citations in the introduction is neither required in every article nor prohibited in any article." (Quote from the wikipedia manual of style). Best wishes, NearTheZoo (talk) 22:18, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Corker1! Just wanted to stop by and say "thanks" for your contributions - I've noticed some of your DC related contributions, and it's really appreciated! On that note, if you are ever interested in meeting up with fellow DC area Wikipedians offline, we do have a DC Meetup Invite List which you can sign and then we'll let you know when we have edit-a-thons, meetups, and other cool events (including museum tours, etc). Just wanted to throw that out there in case you had interest (no pressure, of course). We also have a local chapter, which might interest you also: Wikimedia DC. Feel free to drop by my talk page if I can ever help you out with anything. SarahStierch (talk) 22:47, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
I appreciate what you have done for the Benjamin Banneker page. You are doing a great job keeping the site clean.
Washington and Old Dominion Railway
Please stop. Continuing to revert edits will be considered vandalism as well as WP:own. Further edits of this type may result in your being blocked from editing Wikipedia. The article is excessive in its WP:LENGTH, resulting in significant Wikipedia:Content forking.Oanabay04 (talk) 02:08, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
National Mall border
Please stop changing citation style at Deep TMS. You have two choices there: go back to the non-citation used by the first editor who created the article, or respect the citation style I established. But you may not change the citation style without consensus, and I do not enjoy working with a flawed citation style (the cite doi template). You can generate citations for the style in the article by entering a PubMed indentifier (PMID) into this template, which generates the style used on most medical articles on Wikipedia. Other than that, thank you so much for the article improvements !! Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- YOu have for the third time changed citation style without consensus, and without discussing your edits. Please review WP:3RR and understand that you can be blocked for disruptive editing if you persist. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:28, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- User:SandyGeorgia suggested that I use the pmid template for the citation style in Deep TMS. I did this. Please enter any further comments on this topic into the talk page for Deep TMS to help form a consensus. Corker1 (talk) 02:16, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Please stop posting to my user page (User:SandyGeorgia); for that, we use talk pages. I have your talk page watchlisted and will respond here. Almost every medical article on Wikipedia uses the citation style that you are altering. Regardless, if you continue changing citation style without consensus, you could be blocked. The options are the original, incomplete, non-citation (manual) style used by the first author, or the style I converted it to when I completed the incomplete citations. Stop introducing the cite doi and cite pmid templates. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:26, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
User:Corker1: I came here to help but I don't see how to say it more clearly than SG has. I looked at the Deep TMS page, its talk page, and both of yours, and I see no evidence that SG ever suggested changing the citation style midstream. Just stick with the one that's being used, as long as there is no consensus to change it. -- Scray (talk) 03:30, 21 November 2013 (UTC)