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DB's message

Currently it says "add {{bots|deny=DASHBot}} to somewhere on your talk page," and that sounds pretty iffy, grammatically speaking. Shouldn't it be "add {{bots|deny=DASHBot}} somewhere on your talk page"? The best, Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 19:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Album review move: I am starting to feel guilty

Hi Tim. It's now a few weeks ago since I emergency-stopped DashBOT performing the album review move requested by the WP:ALBUM project and I am starting to feel bad about it. I do sincerely hope that I didn't unintentionally hurt your feelings with this action. I can assure you that I had the best intentions, and I have been doing my best to provide guidance in resolving the outstanding issues. I certainly do hope that you are decided to stay on board. It's a big implementation for the project (definitely the biggest since I joined 2 years ago) and we can't do it without the assistance of someone like you. In best cooperation. – IbLeo(talk) 17:01, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Haha, no I'm a big boy. You have been supremely helpful. Just the fact that you did not use all CAPS was somewhat of a blessing. I will try to get to fixing the bugs, I have been busy lately. Sorry for the delay, and again thank you for the help, Tim1357 (talk) 17:11, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
That's good to hear, a real relief for me! No, I never write in CAPS no matter what state I'm in :-). Sure we all do have a life away from WP that sometimes need a bit of attention, so I sympathize with you on that point. Nevertheless, I hope you get DashBOT going on this soon—I noticed that at least one editor has started moving reviews back into the infobox! Please drop a word on the project page when you start DashBOT, I think other members would be interested to follow the progress. Cheers. – IbLeo(talk) 19:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I finished coding the fixes, I need to test them now. Tim1357 (talk) 03:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Sweet music to my ears :-). Let me know if I can be of any help. Cheers. – IbLeo(talk) 06:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Do you have a target date for when you will be able to restart the bot in the article space? Not trying to pressure you, just curious... – IbLeo(talk) 10:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

False message

Hi, sorry for bothering you, but your bot sent me this message, while the file is not orphaned and in use as you can see here at it's page, and at the article's page, thank you MaenK.A.Talk 06:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Dont worry at all :-), I just wanted to let you know so you can fix that, enjoy editing MaenK.A.Talk 18:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


Orphened

I have recieved a message about an orphaned image, but it is not (File:Pirates of the Carabian PA190094.jpg. Deror (talk) 11:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind assistance. Deror (talk) 08:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Screenshot of abusive use of Wikipedia material

{{helpme}} Dashbot has tagged File:Wokiwiki-Main-2010-01-15.png as "non-free image that is not being used in Wikipedia article space." It is actually a screen shot of a site that serves (or served) subtly adulterated copies of Wikipedia articles, using the Wikipedia name; an activity that could be very damaging to Wikipedia. The screenshot was uploaded to serve as evidence for a complaint filed two months ago in the page Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Vwxyz. (It is unclear whether the site has been taken down in the meantime.) I could keep a copy in my local computer but there are several inconvenients with that; uploading to Wikipedia seems a better solution. So what shall one do to stop the file being deleted in such cases? All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 14:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I have no idea what you should do. Perhaps try archiving it with WebCite, and providing a link to the copied website. In anycase, I asked for comment from people in the wikipedia-help channel. Maybe he or she can give you a better answer. Tim1357 (talk) 16:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think that the image can be kept on Wikipedia. The problem is, if it does contain copyright material, we could only have it under the non-free image policies, which means it would need a 'fair-use rationale'. For that, it would have to be used on an actual article, so that we could give a justification for its use. I understand your dilemma, but I think that it falls outside the project scope, as it is not for an article. I think you will have to link to it elsewhere. This is my opinion on the matter; if you want to check it further, please ask on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Sorry I couldn't give a more positive answer.  Chzz  ►  20:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

bot notifications

Hi. Your bot recently notified me a bunch of times about orphaned images; see here. Thing is, I only uploaded reduced versions of these and tagged them to have to old revs deleted. As such, I don't want to be pestered by the bot. Personally, I favor much higher standards for fair use rationals and many articles that don't properly meet a reasonable notability standard sport images with dubious FU claims that are often inappropriately over-sized, so these orphanings are a sign that others are also working to prune the unencyclopaedic dross that the anybodys inflict on the project.

I'd like to opt-out of your notifications, at least for images I didn't not upload the original of, and would suggest that such things be on an opt-in basis.

Also, I went looking off your bot's user page for where these notifications were approved and did not find it. I did notice the FU-resize task and read that discussion and feel that this is a bit dodgy for a bot to be doing. I see there's some discussion about the issue but that it's currently approved. There is little justification for fair-use images beyond the reasonable default sizes used in article space; typically 180px to 220px wide. I often resize images and I will generally resize images that are over 300px wide to 250px wide; sometimes narrower if the image is quite tall. For higher res, interested readers should follow a link to an off-site source or, in the case of a screen-cap, go buy a copy of whatever or learn to use Google Images.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 21:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Alan Isler and Les Percussions de Strasbourg

Hi Tim you questioned my article on Alan Isler - fair enough for my failure to meet certain guidelines: I tend to get it up and assume others will go forward, especially for important writers. Having said that, can you help me with another article, on Les Percussions de Strasbourg, a major performance group for classical music in France? I just basically translated the French article. How do I show this? Thanks Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterbruce01 (talk • contribs) 23:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Paul Newman (linguist)

Hi, Tim1357,

DASHbot has left a message on my talk page saying I created an unreferenced article Paul Newman (linguist) and should add references. I am curious what kind of references you think this article needs to be properly referenced. This article includes a bibliography of 9 books by its subject, the linguist Paul Newman, contains 11 links to other Wikipedia articles, and contains 3 online links, 2 of them to articles on the author from reliable sources (one of them a website at the University of Indiana, another a website at the University of Hawaii), and finally an interview with Paul Newman from the scholarly journal Semiotica. The article text also contains direct references to published works, in the form "Modern Hausa-English Dictionary (1977)" and The Hausa Language: An Encyclopedic Reference Grammar (2000)". This provides enough verifiable material to make up a valid article on a person. Furthermore, the article contains few or no controversial statements and certainly no personal observations, so it is not in any kind of danger zone. I suggest your bot be fine-tuned to avoid these "false positives".

However, if you think there is some other kind of reference that is required (a reference to a paper scholarly journal, perhaps?), I would be grateful for the information.

Regards, VikSol (talk) 03:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi VikSol, I've left an explanation on Talk:Paul Newman (linguist) Josh Parris 04:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

The Multiple Barnstar

The "What a Brilliant Idea!" The Editor's Barnstar The Working Man's Barnstar
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar The Barnstar of Diligence The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
The Multiple Barnstar
The "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar should be awarded to a user who identifies a means to improve Wikipedia in a profound way.

This rare multiple barnstar is awarded to Tim1357. Thank you so much for making the User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects bot, which will help wikiprojects reference living people articles. Okip 09:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

) Tim1357 (talk) 11:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Your Bot...

...claimed an orphaned image resulting from an edit that actually screwed up the page it was on. I have undid the incorrect edit and will be contacting that bot's owner to have him/her figure out that particular problem. I'm not turning off the bot, but please make sure it doesn't delete Lucille and Other Classics at this point. Cheers. CycloneGU (talk) 20:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I wont, the bot removed the tag for deletion only an hour or so after you fixed the article. Thanks! Tim1357 (talk) 10:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup listings

Hi Tim, I've just seen User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects, and I thought I'd point you to Wikipedia:Bot_requests#User:WolterBot, because having done that bot for unreferenced BLPs, it ought to be straightforward(ish) to do variations of that for other maintenance categories. I think this sort of thing is sorely needed, to provide wikiprojects with up-to-date To Do tasks which help keep them alive. Of course there are quite a few maintenance categories and presenting tasks from them in a friendly way is going to be more of a challenge; maybe a complete listing is actually not called for, so much as presenting a limited, regularly updated selection of relevant cleanup tasks. What do you think? cheers, Rd232 talk 17:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I would like to see the focus remain just on uBLPs for now, but if/when we see some significant progress on clearing the backlog, then we could define a list of the most important clean up categories - (maybe just BLP related - the last WP:Australia Wolterbot list had 108 sections in total!), such as BLP refimprove, NPOV disputes and add them as selectable switches in the signup page - uBLP=yes (default to yes if not specified), BLPrefimprove=yes, NPOV=yes etc and have the bot output them into sections. If Wolterbot can be recovered and run by someone, it's would be goof to have as a complete, monthly total cleanup list, but the daily list is vital for the most important cats. Are computing resources - server time etc - likely to be significant for these tasks - even if it's run on hundreds of projects, or is that fairly irrelevant - just your time to do the initial coding/debugging?The-Pope (talk) 18:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
How do projects get added to these BLP alerts? I've been looking to get a list drawn up for WP:WikiProject Athletics. No doubt, a lot of unreferenced BLPs reside in this area. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 10:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Thats a good Idea. Ill look around for some of wolterbot's code, but If i need to code a new one, what are the maintenance categories that you want listed? (Example: Category:All articles needing copy edit). If you could generate a list for me, it would be helpful. Other then that, it is not too much work, just a few more lines of code. Tim1357 (talk) 10:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I hadn't really thought about it in detail. In principle, all of them! Perhaps initially a selection of different types of task (eg wikifying, NPOV dispute, references improving). Rd232 talk 16:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tim1357. You have new messages at DASHBot's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--Nick—Contact/Contribs 03:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

You have a great tool, I have shared the word. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 10:30, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

You are a scholar and a saint

thank you! Okip 02:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

question to you from other editors

User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#Subcategories Okip 04:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

BAGBot: Your bot request DASHBot 8

Someone has marked Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DASHBot 8 as needing your input. Please visit that page to reply to the requests. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 01:36, 20 March 2010 (UTC) To opt out of these notifications, place {{bots|optout=operatorassistanceneeded}} anywhere on this page.

File:"April in Paris" refrain.png

The replacement of File:"April in Paris" refrain.png with a scaled down version doesn't appear to address the copyright or fair use issues since size/quality of the image I created wasn't an issue regarding the copyright or fair use. Hyacinth (talk) 08:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Capitalized first letter

☒N the 'i love' regex. Tim1357 (talk)
Capitalized first letter "I Love" or "I Hate" indicate a proper noun that should be excluded from the regex. Sole Soul (talk) 06:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
No, that doesnt work, because we still want to match things like 'I LOVE JHONY DEPP'. I just reduced the points given to that regex. Tim1357 (talk) 17:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
But that is not capitalized first letter. It is highly unlikely that a vandal would bother capitalize first character. The other false positive "Dude" is also capitalized first letter. Sole Soul (talk) 21:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
See User_talk:Emijrp/Good_and_evil_list.css#Suggested_good_Words. Sole Soul (talk) 22:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

DUMPREP question

Did you have any success with Wikipedia talk:Dump reports#Pages in cat Category:Disambiguation pages and have ("NRHP" or "National Register of Historic Places") in wikitext ? –xenotalk 12:22, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Fair use on images

Hello,

I updated the page for Dunstable Town F.C. as part of my duties on the committee to run said football club. The badge has no trademark, and if it did surely I'm in a position to permit its use, and was created by myself. I've received a message threatening to delete the image to do with declaring it free to use.

Could you offer some guidance on the issue, as I've uploaded several images I've created/enhanced concerning clubs related to us which again have no trademark.

Hatter69 (talk) 19:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

How's the bot going?

Your comments at [1] made me wonder if it was too difficult to finish or not. You said you had made progress. Dream Focus 03:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Its not so hard to get the edits that a user made to an AFD, rather the result is being tricky. Ive tried to build a database of know results but it hasnt worked well. If you wouldnt mind not having the results, then I can put the code up sometime soon. Tim1357 (talk) 03:41, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Why warned me?

Someone has edited my Talkpage/sandbox, but this bot has warned me!! Amazing! What can I do know. Please let me know. Thanks. Tanvir Ahmmed (talk) 14:36, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Ganeshbot 4

Hi Tim, It's been a few days since I posted the trial completion and subsequent verification. Is there anything that is holding off the bot approval? Please advise. Thanks. Ganeshk (talk) 01:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for the approval. I am not too happy about the condition, but I understand the reasons you did that. I will come back to BAG to appeal it once the bot has a track record of creating good articles (may be in six months). Thanks again, Ganeshk (talk) 11:51, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I have a question. But we can Request for approval for other Ganeshbot task? Gastropods have few hundred families? Should/can we request for approval for all of those families? And separatelly or all at once? If not, then I (as an individual) do not need that limited approval at all. Your theory, that "Wikiproject would be swamped" is not appropriate. This was request for approval for the only one genus. They are placed in only one category. This is very large genus consisting of over 600 species. This is uncomparable with other animals that are people usually familiar with. There are definitely much more areas, where Ganesbot will need to be used. This is a free encyclopedia so why should we be forced to work alphabetically when we wish to work efficiently? I do not know what other members will do, but I will not even start neither checking nor improving what Ganesbot made until it will be finished all. Compare it with previous tasks of Ganeshbot. Would it be usefull to start only few stubs of cities in a limited area of India in alphabetical order? If still not approved, please, move my protest to a proper place. Thanks. The optimal process would be like this: approved Ganeshbot for all gastropod-related articles from that certain source under supervision (we can not use all Ganesbot's abilities immediately anyway, we have to check gastropod related things - like taxonomy - first) of gastropod project members, not under Bot project members. And this is only one wikiproject(!) that you are restraining in a very limited scope of the project. Will not have other wikiprojects related to all animals the privilege to use Ganesbot's "skills" at all? --Snek01 (talk) 13:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I have also made a comment there [2]. --Snek01 (talk) 15:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

DASHBot tagging uploader

Hi Tim. First off, thank you for your contributions in bot creation. Tedious tasks are an inherent part of the wiki, and your work makes everything much easier. Recently DASHBot tagged my talk page about the orphaned fair-use file File:Jollygoodfelon.jpg. I was not the original uploader of the file, but rather I reduced the resolution of the file to comply with fair use policy. The original version was deleted, which is probably what caused DASHBot to tag my page. Would it be possible to make the bot look into the file history and tag the original editors page instead? I know it's not a huge deal, but I'm seldom interested in the article these files are used in, whereas the original uploader most likely is. Thanks for your time. Jujutacular T · C 20:17, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Tim1357. You have new messages at User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#chess_bot.
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a million thanks again tim. Okip 12:29, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Chess BLP's

The bot keeps reporting no unreferenced BLP's in the Chess category. This is not the case. I'm going to turn it off if this continues because false reporting of information is worse then no reporting. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 03:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

It appears to be searching the non-existent category [[Category:*Chess*]] instead of [[Category:Chess]].--Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
It started with Category:Chess before I believe and then when it didn't find any was changed to [[:Category:*Chess*]]. Neither work. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I've switch the UnRefed BLPs task off. No communications for six days and hundreds of projects receiving inaccurate and misleading information. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Religious felines

Howdy. At Wikipedia:WikiProject Cats/Unreferenced BLPs‎ the bot appears to be mixing in items from WikiProject Catholicism (and also items that I can't determine the reason for, such as Bill Gold). Just fyi :) -- Quiddity (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Harsh

Dashbot take no prisoner.Antigrandiose (talk) 00:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

New data set

I've generated a data set (for the first 2000 revisions of the Rocket article) identifying good/bad revisions. See: User:Dc987/Dataset_for_the_Rocket_article. Most of it is auto-generated, but some questionable edits were human verified. I'd like to see it cleaned up even more. Would you be willing to run your favorite vandalism identification bot against it? --Dc987 (talk) 01:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

DASHBot

This has removed the photo of Arthur Schmidt from the DYK suggestions page. Could you please put it back or tell me why it is not fair non-free historic use. Thanks. Ericoides (talk) 06:48, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Update. I've uploaded another file at DYK with the same [File:Arthur Schmidt22.jpg] image, and filled in a more extensive rationale. Perhaps this will help? Thanks, Ericoides (talk) 07:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Your bot has just paid me a visit, saying, "Thanks for uploading File:Arthur Schimdt.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed." Well, it's orphaned because I removed it from the article, because it was removed from DYK. There is no rationale given on the article. In this rather Alice world of circular logic, I'm forced to ask you, as the owner of this out-of-control atttack dog, echoing Henry II of England, "Will no one rid me of this turbulent bot?" Ericoides (talk) 06:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Gackt another world2.jpg

Resolved
 – 01:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your work, but would like to infom you that I'm intending to delete the file. Other version will be uploaded. Do you know anyone to inform, that I as a uploader allow to be deleted?--GreyWolfy (talk) 12:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

 Done Looks like MuZemike did it. [3] Cheers! Tim1357 (talk) 01:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

CRC

Hey Tim, the CollabRC client is now at a point where it can do a good job of evaluating edits, rollback edits, and pass edits. It now also responds with the appropriate !GOOD and !BAD commands on hit. If you let me know of your OS details, I can build you a copy. That will probably make training the bots a lot easier. Let me know. (I have a flight today so I may not be able to respond until later tonight.) --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 15:04, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey Shirik. I have Leapord 10.5.8. Thanks! Tim1357 (talk) 16:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

re this: the image had been deleted from the article temporarily, as some editor corrected the pic's wrongly spelled name "File:Edward Said thowing a stone at Israeli soldiers.jpg" to "File:Edward Said throwing a stone at Israeli soldiers.jpg". It's being used right now and it is important, please don't delete. --tickle me 00:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Gackt another world2.jpg

Resolved
 – 01:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your work, but would like to infom you that I'm intending to delete the file. Other version will be uploaded. Do you know anyone to inform, that I as a uploader allow to be deleted?--GreyWolfy (talk) 12:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

 Done Looks like MuZemike did it. [4] Cheers! Tim1357 (talk) 01:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

CRC

Hey Tim, the CollabRC client is now at a point where it can do a good job of evaluating edits, rollback edits, and pass edits. It now also responds with the appropriate !GOOD and !BAD commands on hit. If you let me know of your OS details, I can build you a copy. That will probably make training the bots a lot easier. Let me know. (I have a flight today so I may not be able to respond until later tonight.) --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 15:04, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey Shirik. I have Leapord 10.5.8. Thanks! Tim1357 (talk) 16:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

re this: the image had been deleted from the article temporarily, as some editor corrected the pic's wrongly spelled name "File:Edward Said thowing a stone at Israeli soldiers.jpg" to "File:Edward Said throwing a stone at Israeli soldiers.jpg". It's being used right now and it is important, please don't delete. --tickle me 00:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You seem very busy

I understand. What was this in reference to: User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates, is this dependent on the project banner's transclusions instead of categories? Thanks for the edits, if you have a second, can you look at User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#Chess_BLP.27s? Okip 08:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this is dependent on the project's banner. I also responded at User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects. Thanks! Tim1357 (talk) 13:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thank you! Wow! Do all of the pages from User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects‎ now need to be transferred to this list? If you could respond at User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects? Thanks. Okip 13:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm glad to say User:Funandtrvl had already given at least a particle fix to the problem on the Chess BLP's. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Doom-chronicle

your bot informed this user he had 3 unreferenced biographies. i wanted to alert you to the fact that this user has many more unrefd biographies, from 2006, when he claimed to be writing articles based on his copyrighted material that is no longer web accessible. im not saying he did anything in bad faith, but he definitely never kept up his created articles and has not edited in 4 years, so he is presumably done. anything that should be done about his articles?(please reply at User:Mercurywoodrose, or here, not at Notmercurywoodrose)Notmercurywoodrose 19:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notmercurywoodrose (talk • contribs)

File copyright problem with File:DASHBot_image.jpeg

Thank you for uploading File:DASHBot_image.jpeg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Chris G Bot (talk) 00:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

DashBot

Hi, I recommend you avoid stating "Hello! Thank you for your contributions" on the talk pages of users that started contributing in 2004 and left two years ago. Thanks Gurch (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Good news

Warning parsing and chaining appears to be working, and so is issuing of warnings. With that, I'm going to take that code and apply it to the bot and it should be up and running. How's DashBot-1? I've noticed CRC is quite slow without it, sadly. We will probably have to add in some kind of fail-safe filtering. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 16:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Fideo

Just curious why you changed that edit? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.26.153.4 (talk) 20:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

DashBot working?

Our WikiProject list hasn't been updated in over a week - just checking on whether the bot needed to be kicked or not :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Tim1357! Haven't heard anything from you on this. Is the bot down? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey there SatyrTN! I think the bot hasn't updated your page because there has been no change in the listing. Note that the bot generates a list each night, and only updates the page if there is a difference. Do you think that is appropriate? Tim1357 (talk) 23:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
That isn't true. The first article Carmen Vázquez was referenced and the BLP template removed on 24 March, but it still remains on the list. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh, thats interesting. Im working on it now...Tim1357 (talk) 23:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Actually the BLP template was removed on 29 March, not the 24 March, but you get the idea. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I didn't know that about it not updating unless there's been a change. That makes sense to me :) Let me know about the Carmen Vazquez situation. Many thanks for your help!!! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Man Eaters of Tsavo

Tim, I added some content to this page, but the literary box with the cover of the book was already part of the page, not my addition. I do have a question, though. Since the text is now public domain because of the publication date of the book, wouldn't the image of the cover be public domain as well? EDSClikes2hunt (talk) 18:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Tim1357. You have new messages at User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#Do_wildcards_work_for_a_bot_to_list_certain_subcategories_in_a_template.
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Hope to see you soon! Okip 01:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Punctuation & capitalization corrections to notice for Unreferenced BLPs

Resolved
 – 22:20, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Way it is

<noinclude>{{notice|This is a page created by a [[WP:BOT|bot]]. This page lists Unreferenced living people articles ([[WP:BBLP|BLP]]s) in [[:Category:WikiProject Lehigh Valley articles]].To stop this bot from adding future updates on this page, please remove your wikiproject from the list [[User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects|here]]. This page was last updated {{REVISIONMONTH}}/{{REVISIONDAY2}}/{{REVISIONYEAR}}}} </noinclude>

Proposed change

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<noinclude>{{notice|This is a page created by a [[WP:BOT|bot]]. This page lists Unreferenced living people articles ([[WP:BBLP|BLP]]s) in [[:Category:WikiProject Lehigh Valley articles]]. To stop this bot from adding future updates on this page, please remove your WikiProject from the list [[User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects|here]]. This page was last updated {{REVISIONMONTH}}/{{REVISIONDAY2}}/{{REVISIONYEAR}}}}.</noinclude>

  1. Add 2 spaces after 2nd sentence
  2. Add 1 space after 3rd sentence
  3. change wikiproject to WikiProject
  4. add period after 4th sentence (although I haven't figured out yet how to make the "period" stay in the notice box, need help there.) --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
The best idea would probably be to just use a tamplate and let anyone edit it as they see fit. Less job for you Tim. Rettetast (talk) 12:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Great Idea: On its next run, the bot will use this template as its message template. {{{1}}} is the name of the Template/Category and {{{2}}}, if used, signifies that the list was generated based on the the Wikiproject's template. Feel free to alter to your liking. Tim1357 (talk) 22:20, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Spain/Unreferenced BLPs

Resolved
 – 02:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, this edit [5] removed all 213 unreferenced BLPs from the above page. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 00:29, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Ditto, for Chess WikiProject. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
It's not the bot, there are errors in how it's listed (and it's listed 3-4 times on 2 different pgs). I'll clean it up. --Funandtrvl (talk) 00:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
(ec) thanks funadtrvl, there needs to be one on each page for now, the original and the new page. Eventually we will phase out the original. See posting on the bot page, for full details of what is happening User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#Two_bots_currently_running Okip 00:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Can you fix the subheading language of the bot?

Resolved
 – 02:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, the MoS requires headings to be in sentence, not title case (no caps after the opening letter); and "non-free" to be hyphenated. Please tweak the output? Tony (talk) 02:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey Tony, thanks for that catch. Please make any and all changes to the message template at User:DASHBot/FAIR. Thanks, Tim1357 (talk) 21:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Done, just a minute ago. Tony (talk) 02:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

New messages on DASHBot talk page

Hello, Tim1357. You have new messages at DASHBot's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Otheruses4 -> About

Resolved
 – 02:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello,

I was wondering if you could help me replace {{otheruses4}} with {{about}}.

Thanks174.3.123.220 (talk) 10:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey there! I have a few bot tasks that I have to work on, but I suggest you make a request at the bot request page. Just make sure you have WP:CONSENSUS to do so. Good luck! Tim1357 (talk) 22:23, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Removing more non free files

I just noticed that DashBot removed two fair use files from User talk:ManathMagesinger. However there were a ton more. Dashbot removed two and warned. Would it be possible to allow the bot to remove more, or is this limit in there on purpose? NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs/Vote! 00:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

DASHBot

Resolved
 – 02:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Your bot just removed all of the unreferenced BLPs from WP:CFB here, even though only a few should have been removed. Malfunctioning? Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

It just did it again. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Same for WP:CANADA here. Most likely others also. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
All better now. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

A series of free lectures on natural languages processing

You might find them interesting: [6] --Dc987 (talk) 23:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

DashBot

CRC DashBots 1 and 2 are down for some reason. Probably had something to do with the recent TS maintenance. Would you mind kicking them? Thanks! --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 01:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

DashBot

Hi, I appreciate the reminder from the DashBot.
But, I have found a more appropriate place for the orphaned image, and now the orphaned image template can be removed.
Can I do it myself or do you have to since it was your Bot, which corrected the then-image problem but is now fixed?
How do I note that the orphaned photo has found a "new home" to the Naked Idol (TV movie) article?
Thanx!
ATC . Talk 01:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The logo was part of the article Sindh but was then removed due to up-gradation of the article. Now i've added this logo in the article Government of Sindh. nomi887 (talk) 06:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

No, not at all!

I am not frustrated by you at all, I am VERY pleased by the work you have been doing! I am SO sorry you read my comments wrong. My deepest apologies for the grievous misunderstanding! Okip 00:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

If Okip is not then I am. Tim I know your a volunteer, but there has to be a basic level of interaction. Answering questions. Explaining how things are suppose to work. Beta testing things so that it does work. The bot stopping when it's suppose to stop etc. These are things that are to be understood from a bot and operator. The delays of the DASHBot Wikiprojects not working or not working in an understandable manner is frustrating. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I too would be frustrated. What I would appreciate from you is a wishlist. Some sort of list of things I can do to make the whole process run smoothly. Thank you all for your patience. Tim1357 (talk) 02:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Tim - I think we just need to bot restarted and then we can see which projects still work using the cat method and which work using the template method and then either move them required or get the projects populate their "articles" cat. I had noticed, however, that some of the cat page ones, such as Category:Sports and games work group articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Sports and games/Unreferenced BLPs hadn't been updated for over a week before all of this happened. SunCreator, apart from the odd one or two, the whole template method addition was done because people were too stubborn to make their project compliant with how V1.0 of this bot worked - it was working perfectly on all of the Australian projects. Tim was nice enough to build V2.0 after being distracted by V1.1 (category wildcards) for a while. Okip probably made an error in trying to migrate every project over to the template style, but we're all just trying to provide a tool that helps to get a job done. And I made my mistake today by posting first, reading second.The-Pope (talk) 13:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Tim,
  1. I like you to answer outstanding questions on your talk page. User_talk:Tim1357#DashBot_working.3F and User_talk:Tim1357/Archive_4#Chess_BLP.27s.
  2. Explain why the bot doesn't run daily or any seeming regular basis. What can be done(if anything) to get it to run on a particular project.
  3. Explain what the difference is between using a category, a wildcard and a template selection. How you would go about working out what is appropriate for a WikiProject and why. Then when decided where and what you add to the project list .
  4. Take some actual projects and get them to work(consider this a beta test). Wikipedia:WikiProject_LGBT_studies/Unreferenced_BLPs, Wikipedia:WikiProject China/Unreferenced BLPs, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Military biography/Unreferenced BLPs seem diverse useful examples that currently don't work.
  5. Amend the message when no unreferenced BLPs are found, to say the bot didn't find any and explain what it look for (not to say there isn't any which in most cases is factually incorrect). Alternatively(and best) give a \notfoundpage where editors can amend the wording in cases nothing is found.
  6. Add the WikiProject Unreferenced BLP list creation in the User:DASHBot#Tasks as currently I don't believe it's listed. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 14:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
SC, for #3, see User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#Instructions.The-Pope (talk) 17:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Those instructions are useful. What happens in situation (which I think is common) where there is no category nor any template that contains all the articles related to a WikiProject? WP:CANADA for example? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC) Maybe I am wrong seems Canada is done via Template:WikiProject Canada. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Response
  1. The bot doesn't update each page daily because the lists don't always change daily. The bot generates the list every night, but only updates the wiki version if there is a difference.
  2. I am trying to phase out the use of the categories. I have automatically moved 200 of them using a simple script. The other 100 or so will have to be done by hand or with a smarter process.
  3. I will redirect User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects to User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates so that User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects is the secondary option.
  4. I will add more in-depth messages for when a list is empty.
  5. I believe everything is working well now. Please check with your wikiproject's page to see if that is correct. I have checked the example pages that you provided and they all seem to be working well.

Tim1357 (talk) 01:49, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Tim, I'll try to compare the full list to a compilation of the Dashbot generated lists and try to work out which projects are missing - or are there just a bunch without projects? I think we need to keep some cat based ones, as some subprojects don't have their own template, they use a master project template with a parameter = yes qualifier, so I wouldn't hide the non-template list yet. I've resorted the category list to make it easier to see what's what - does having spaces, or would even having subheadings affect the bot's performance?The-Pope (talk) 13:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

CRC Dashbot

Dashbot-1 stopped responding again. The following is the last active line I saw, in case it helps: 

 (22:59:11) (+DASHBot-1) !FLAG 355889088 0.6095

Before that, everything was running smoothly. It's not like it slowed to a stop, it just came to a grinding halt. I see nothing else around it that looks unusual, either, so I'm not sure if it's something IRC-side that triggers the failure. Hopefully your logs might be more revealing. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 09:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Wha...?

re: removing files from userspace. The log notes removal of The Whole Shebang cover from my userspace. I have never seen that file and certainly did not put it in my userspace. Either it's a mistake or someone pasted it in my userspace.Hammerdrill (talk) 03:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Dashbot error (sort of)

I did have a non-free image on my page that it got however the bot also blanked a section of block text above it that did not display an image it is likely a very minor error that likely doesn't happen often. Just thought you would like to know.

The page is here User talk:Krj373/PG4 under section flag if you would like to take a look.
Krj373 (talk) 20:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

BAGBot: Your bot request DASHBot 9.5

Someone has marked Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DASHBot 9.5 as needing your input. Please visit that page to reply to the requests. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 17:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC) To opt out of these notifications, place {{bots|optout=operatorassistanceneeded}} anywhere on this page.

Bump, will do. Tim1357 (talk) 02:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

DASHBot Lies

Your DASHBot marked an article as not having references when it does. Saltysailor (talk) 16:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Probably, the article was unreferenced but had it's tag removed between the time the bot messaged you and the time you got the message. Tim1357 (talk) 02:45, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned files

How do you check for orphaned files on here? I been wanting to do my own checks so I can cleanup the images that are on here. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The bot runs every other night and finds all orphaned non-free images. For hat reason, there is no real need to have a page to do that. However, you can see a list of images you have uploaded here. Good luck! Tim1357 (talk) 02:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, I want to scan categories that your bot does not scan, but I hate to bug people to run checks for me. That is why I want to learn how to do it myself. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Lucille and Other Classics Image

Apparently they didn't consider removing the image before removing the article. Just go ahead and delete it. CycloneGU (talk) 04:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Okie, hold on here. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lucille_and_Other_Classics comments suggest using it on the discography page. I'll let you decide the best course of action here. CycloneGU (talk) 04:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Thats not up to me, I think you want an admin. I think it's best for the AFD to expire. Good luck Tim1357 (talk) 02:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Random question

Your edit-filter tracking bot: How does it work, and is it open source? I just realized another application myself and a few others have for a bot that tracks edit filter hits (specifically, a certain one, at least to start) and was hoping we might make use of it. Perhaps we can chat on IRC about this sometime. Take care! --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 23:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

User:PotatoBot

Just wanted to tell you that PotatoBot has completed its first task successfully. Thanks for getting my bot running! Cheers --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:40, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Mark Steele

Hi, no bot experience so I don't know if this is fixable but I received a message about on unreferenced BLP from the bot (admittedly in January but I've been away from the talk page for a while). I created the page as a redirect and since then someone's expanded it.

Any ideas if something that has a category when created as being a redir page won't get notified? BigHairRef | Talk 14:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Cokecola.png

Your bot sentme a message about the image being an orphan; your bot worked perfectly, but the image is now not a orphan. Thanks --Nascar1996 00:41, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

DASHBot and resizing non-free files

Howdy. I'm curious why when DASHBot resized this file it didn't add {{Non-free reduced|~~~~~}} to the image's page?--Rockfang (talk) 05:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

When you have a moment, could you please respond? Thank you.--Rockfang (talk) 05:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, must have missed this on my talk page. I had an error early on where the bot would sometimes not use that tag. I will do a query to find what others I may have missed. Thanks! Tim1357 (talk) 05:07, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Image is in use, not showing up under "File links"

Images File:Bell Atlantic logo (1984).svg and File:BellAtlantic97.png are no orphaned, have been in use at Verizon Communications since 19 April 2010 when Cluebot fixed some vandalism. The usage of these images is not showing up under their “File links”, which is why your bot probably tagged them for deletion.--Svgalbertian (talk) 13:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Thats so weird! You are right, the bot looks at the File Link section of the File's page. I wonder why they are not showing up as links. Maybe the database hasn't updated it yet. Tim1357 (talk) 13:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Someone has since edited that page and they show up in the file usage again. You can turn the bot back on. Cheers! --Svgalbertian (talk) 21:26, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Bot restarted Tim1357 (talk) 02:17, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

10 largest articles on Wikipedia

Is there a list of the 10 biggest articles on Wikipedia, I saw you make lists and thought this might be a good place to ask/ suggest this. Sign My Guestbook! User:Sumsum2010 01:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Here you go (length is given in bytes). Tim1357 (talk) 01:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Extended content

SELECT page_title , page_len FROM page WHERE page_namespace = 0 ORDER BY page_len DESC LIMIT 10;

+----------------------------------------------------------+----------+
| page_title                                               |pagelength|
+----------------------------------------------------------+----------+
| List_of_allied_military_operations_of_the_Vietnam_War    |   486734 | 
| List_of_Fellows_of_the_Royal_Society                     |   452082 | 
| List_of_Advanced_Dungeons_&_Dragons_2nd_edition_monsters |   391108 | 
| Line_of_succession_to_the_British_throne                 |   390858 |
| Timeline_of_United_States_inventions                     |   388270 | 
| Licensed_and_localized_editions_of_Monopoly              |   361427 | 
| United_States_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics                |   339382 | 
| 2009–10_Coupe_de_France_1st_through_2nd_Rounds           |   329515 | 
| List_of_Spanish_football_transfers_summer_2009           |   315062 |
| Chronology_of_Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_actions  |   313343 | 
+----------------------------------------------------------+----------+
Thanks! I've wondendered this for years, now I know! Sign My Guestbook! User:Sumsum2010 02:01, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Working well but...

I'm not sure if it's doing every project that's listed? I find it hard to believe that some of the big lists with 1000s of pages aren't being updated everyday - maybe they just aren't being referenced (I know that it just skips the page if there have been no changes). I've referenced a few today from some of the lists that haven't moved, so it will be interesting to see if they get updated tomorrow. Is there an order to the Bot? It would be good if it could run in the same order as they are listed on the submission page so that we could see if it gets stuck or just skips over some. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 16:14, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I've yet to find an error. Can you give an example of a list you think has changed. Then one from the list can be referenced and the template removed and you'll see the following day if it has been done. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
OK, some examples:
I wonder if you should try to record a log file, which records both the changed files (maybe copy the edit summary you've been using) but also records if no articles have changed, or if no articles were found. Hopefully it's an easy fix for you.The-Pope (talk) 11:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Australian motorsport, Australian television and Canadian music have the same problem, they don't have a template for there project but use an option i.e {{WikiProject Canada|music=yes}} within the country template. Otherwise it could be templates are working but categories are not. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:16, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
The-Pope, there are some problems still unresolved for sure. I've created Category:*New_York_Yankees* to see if this is an issue of populating categories. Only one issue among many perhaps. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
The issue is that some work - some don't. One wildcard cat are being updated - the Dodgers one. Some standard category based ones (option in another template rather than a dedicated template) also work. The following lists were all updated in the last few days from the category list, not the template list.
I think you should delete that new category - it isn't the problem, there is something wrong with how the bot reads the lists.The-Pope (talk) 14:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
I've deleted the category. Let's see what Tim says. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Be careful with the MNH Lepidoptera genus database

Just to let you know, you apparently had a bot create a lot of Lepidoptera genus articles which seem to be based on the Museum of Natural History database. This database contains all genera of Lepidoptera that were ever validly established - but this means that most genera listed there are junior synonyms nowadays.

This database is not useful to auto-create articles for Wikipedia. I am presently stuck just with the cleanup work, and the amount of it is staggering. (Still, the valid genera at least now have articles. But it will be a long time til we manage to sort it all out.) All the best, Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 17:54, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh no! I created those when I was a newbie. Let me clean up after my own mess: what do you want me to do? Tim1357 (talk) 01:54, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

DASHbot

Hi, I uploaded one non-free logo to wikipedia, which was to be used in creating one article Firstsource, but by mistake one User:RadioFan marked article for speedy deletion as i created the page, i thought on creating it on same side, by placing template underconstruction, After my communication with him, he moved page to User:Abutorsam007/Firstsource, as soon as article is completed with proper references & cites. I shall be moving it to main article. Now matter is that your BOT DASHbot removed the logo from the User:Abutorsam007/Firstsource here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Abutorsam007/Firstsource&oldid=357513799, i do understand it is right, so what i need to do next?, when article is completed, then should i place again the logo, or still can i use it in User:Abutorsam007/Firstsource.(  Abu Torsam  04:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC))

Removing fair use file from Talk:Reiki

Hey Tim, can you stop your bot from removing the fair use file Hawayo_Takata.jpg in the Reiki Talk page, as it's currently needed there to illustrate a point and current conversation. Thanks. -- Xxglennxx ★talk★ 13:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

[7] This should work. Tim1357 (talk) 21:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for Un-confusing Sumsum2010 Barnstar
This user has helped Sumsum2010 become un-confused. Thank You!Sumsum2010·T·C 02:31, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

The da Vinci Barnstar
For your expedient, high-quality work in providing us with a configurable bot to announce filter hits which has been of immense help today and will surely be of help in the future, I hereby award you this slightly renaissance but highly valuable da Vinci Barnstar. Thanks! Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 03:43, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Tim1357 (talk) 17:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Album review move: An update would be appreciated

Hi Tim, people over at WP:ALBUM are starting to wonder where you are with the album review move by DASHBOT. An update from your side would be appreciated. The discussion is here:Template_talk:Infobox_album#Removal_of_.22reviews.22_field. – IbLeo(talk) 21:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey IbLeo, Im sorry I haven't been prompt with this task. Its pretty tedious and I am afraid to have the bot run by itself. Ill get to it hopefully by the end of the week. Cheers, Tim1357 talk 02:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
That is certainly good news! I am looking forward to that. As I said earlier, please drop a note on WT:ALBUM to let people know when you start the bot. I am sure a few of us will be around and help you following up on it. – IbLeo(talk) 05:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

DASHBot Wikiprojects

G'day Tim, Have you been able to find out why some of the category based projects are not being updated? Can you force the DASHBot to refresh it's list of categories to search or do some logging to see if it's not detecting the changes, or simply not actually doing the comparisons. See my comments above for the trials I've done. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 16:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Tim, the Bot has still not picked up the changes that I've listed above. Is there a way you can "refresh" the list of categories? Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 06:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Bump. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:05, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Hmm. I think the way I want to go about fixing this is by treating cases individually, and hope to fix the group as a whole. Therefore, can you give me a specific that you want me to work on? Tim1357 (talk) 04:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
The ones pointed out by The-Pope in User_talk:Tim1357#Working_well_but.... Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment/Unreferenced BLPs, Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian television/Unreferenced BLPs, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Actors_and_Filmmakers/Unreferenced_BLPs etc. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Macintosh Revival

Hello, Tim1357! You've listed yourself as an active member of WikiProject Macintosh, which is currently seeing very little activity. We are trying to revive the project and your help would be appreciated. To see who is active and who is not, we will be listing all active members under "status pending" in the project's participant list. Please move your name to either the "former members" section or "active" section. Hope to see you in the "active" column! For more information on how to help the project, visit the How to help section at our project page! · EdwardsBot (talk) 02:36, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


Oops!

Just thanking old Dashbot for removing non-free from user page. I meant to do it myself after getting the formatting right but then forgot all about the rule... :-(. Very good bot! Give him a pat on the head from me... :-) --Haruth (talk) 04:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Heh, you're welcome and will do. Tim1357 talk 04:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

The Cleanup Barnstar
For your botty help with unreferenced BLP cleanup, thanks! Gigs (talk) 13:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
You are very welcome. :) Tim1357 talk 15:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Improvement for DASHBot NFCC image removal task

Hi Tim. As a result of an editor shutting down DASHBot, I came across User:Shaakunthala/Asia-Pacific Telecentre Network. Three days in a row, about the same time every day, DASHBot removed a non-free media file from the developmental article (most recent example) doing so with its normal editor summary. Everything seems fine. Three times, the editor restored the image, and after the third time he shut DASHBot down. The bot acted correctly, and I turned it back on. I also removed the image again from the development article, and posted a message to the user's talk page. Dashbot also orphaned the image, and I retagged it as orphaned. So, everything seems fine. Except...

Dashbot never informed the 'owner' (defined as the editor in who's userspace the development article exists) of the development article about what it was doing and why. This flummoxed me. Dashbot always informs (removal,notification. So what happened? I thought perhaps it didn't inform on subpages. So, I went digging further.

Dashbot does inform 'owners' of subpages sub page removal,notification. What the...?

Then I found it... Dashbot doesn't inform owners of subpages if the owner of the subpage does not have a talk page. That was the case in this case that drew my attention, it was the case User:HappyPalooza/Marvel Cinematic Universe (still no owner talk page). I haven't found other examples as yet, but I believe I've uncovered a failing of Dashbot.

Would it be possible to improve Dashbot so that it can post notices to talk pages of users who do not have active talk pages? --Hammersoft (talk) 16:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: Heh

!! Busted! I have to say, I get to clicking through with Huggle and I have to learn to slow down. Had I noticed your edit summary, I'd have left it be. My bad. Sorry!  :) Wikipelli Talk 18:25, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I probably would have even if I saw the edit summary. Sneaky vandals! Tim1357 talk 18:26, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Filter 39

Hello Tim1357. I can't figure the false positive on filter 39, but I'm guessing it was your changes that did it. I notice the filter will now also pick up words like 'rapper' and 'closer'. Be great if you could take a look, and perhaps roll back some of the changes. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:07, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't me, the problem was that syllabuses has the word abuse in it. All fixed. Tim1357 talk 22:18, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
OK thanks. I've hopefully fixed those other things. I think it's generally a good idea to know when the removed lines also contain the bad words and libel, don't you? These are often articles with existing vandalism, and not widely watched. Any addition including these words is usually problematic, even when they were already there. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:32, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Move-to-commons assistant

Hi. I see that you're tagging a lot of images for speedy deletion F1. Good work but... could be even better. :-) Many of these images are public-domain and would be better off at Commons. You can use the move-to-Commons assistant. I also suspect that at least some of these images already exist on Commons so all of their copies on en.wiki should be removed. Cheers, 74.59.148.107 (talk) 17:21, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, heh. I have used that before. Right now, however, there are 13 thousand images to be deleted because they are {{NowCommons}}; I don't think I want to make that backlog any bigger for the moment. Tim1357 talk 02:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Specific examples - uBLPs lists not being updated

Tim, Going down the list at User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects:

See also the lists above where I referred to specific articles that I referenced a week ago, but were only removed from some of the lists. It appears (to someone who knows nothing about python or bots) that the bot has is not reading the "full list" or is being tripped up by one of the category related tasks. It's really becoming an issue - I want to start notifying some of these sub-projects that they aren't performing well, but without up to date information, it is hard to do. Thanks for all your help to date but this is getting frustrating. The-Pope (talk) 17:24, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. I have no idea what I did that fixed it, and frankly I don't want to. Tim1357 talk 02:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Better, but...

Tim, thanks for getting one more cat done, but the (at least) the following are still not being updated.

I don't know what you can do to stop this chipping away at the problem and just force all listed articles to be updated, but I feel we're getting closer! Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 13:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

It might be that I havent ran the bot since I saw that Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Science and academia/Unreferenced BLPs worked, I figured when the bot runs tonight It could do all those. Ill force it to start right now and make sure all those pages work. Sit tight. Tim1357 talk 16:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Ugh, I found the error. I don't wan't to tell you what it is because it's so embarrassing and miniscule. Anyways, I'll babysit the bot until it's finished. Thanks for being so patient! Tim1357 talk 16:33, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
All done, those pages seem to be updating now. Tell me if there is anything else I can do! Tim1357 talk 16:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Excellent Tim and The-Pope. This error has been bugging me for a while. If this is now working then I think the next stage is to extend the lists to include other active WikiProjects. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:14, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

It's been bugging me for a while too, and I feel pretty stupid that the bug was so (ssoooooo) minor. Tim1357 talk 17:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't care why, glad you found the minibug. I'll have one more request for you soon.... just need to do some more investigation to see how big an issue it is. Thanks again, The-Pope (talk) 12:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


user-space drafts

Hiya Tim -- Why would fair use images not be appropriate for user-space drafts? Those drafts certainly qualify for the basic fair use criteria. We do need a better quarantine system for media that hasn't been confirmed to be under an appropriate license, or that is only around for fair use... but until a technical solution exists, I wonder why you are worrying about this particular corner case. –SJ+ 22:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • SJ, you might be interested in this conversation. I attempted to get an exemption added to the policy for development articles to have some leeway, and it was not accepted. I agree with you; I think development articles should get some leeway, but the community does not agree. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:03, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, can't say I'm a huge fan of the policy. In the end, however, it isn't up to us. Cheers. Tim1357 talk 03:41, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Abusefilter

Do not reuse low unused filter numbers. It makes the log confusing. Prodego talk 22:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Terribly sorry. I thought that because the filter was deleted (and had no future of being needed again) that I could reuse the filter. Anything I can do to fix it? Tim1357 talk 03:40, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

AbuseFilter improvement

Hey Tim. I noticed the work you did with filter 260; great job getting the time down. I'm sure you know it used to be horrendous. I was wondering if you could do the same with filter 58, which is at 7ms now, and is in a form identical to the original filter 260. Thanks. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:54, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. Tim1357 talk 03:38, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Tim. Just an FYI, I had to revert this change because it was denying a lot of legitimate edits. I'm not quite sure what was wrong; perhaps you can take a look at it again or we can go over it later together. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 14:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

False positive #1 is the ?????. Tim1357 talk 20:30, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Same with this one. Tim1357 talk 20:30, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
This one aswel. Tim1357 talk 20:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I have come to the conclusion that ??? is the source of our problems. (yet annother example) Tim1357 talk 20:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Dashbots

Hi Tim. I'm trying to test a fix I made to CRC I made today that should fix the crashing issues for Macs, but DashBots 1 and 2 went MIA recently. Do you think you could pull them back up when you get a chance? Thanks! --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 23:02, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Lemme see what I can do. Tim1357 talk 03:40, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

BLP Bot

Hi Tim, remember the DashBot run you did in January to the authors of unreferenced BLPs? I was wondering if DASHBot could be induced to do a follow up. I suspect that some of the authors have subsequently had their usertalkpages go blue, and as I remember it DASHBot was not writing to people with redlinked talkpages, also a lot of new editors and articles are likely to be in that group both because of the thousands of recently tagged unreferenced BLPs, and because some editors are changing unreferenced tags to unreferencedBLP ones whilst leaving the date unaltered. But the main reason for a reminder is that some of the authors who did get a note in January are probably ready for a reminder now , perhaps including the phrase "If you no longer think it will be possible to find sources for any of the articles that you created, you might consider tagging them for deletion with the tag {{db-author}} at the top of the article." ϢereSpielChequers 16:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

If I do that, I'm redirecting all the hate messages I get to WT:UBLP. Perhaps you can start a discussion there and get some sort of consensus to go again? Ill make a list right now of users who were not notified, and update you later on how many there are. Tim1357 talk 19:30, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks that's brilliant. I've started the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons#Another Dashbot run to the authors?. By the way I'm thinking of messages for both groups, a followup to people who got the last message and still have UBLPs, and a message to people who now have UBLPs and didn't get the first message. ϢereSpielChequers 11:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Tim, we've got a draft wording at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Unreferenced_Biographies_of_Living_Persons#Wording and yes it includes a talkpage to take responses. So I think we are green to go, unless we need to run this though Bot approval, or can you arrange that? ϢereSpielChequers 09:36, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Macintosh Role Call

Hello, Tim1357! You've listed yourself as an active member of WikiProject Macintosh, which is currently being revived. Your help would be appreciated! To see who is active and who is not, we will be listing all active members under "status pending" in the project's participant list. Please move your name to either the "former members" section or "active" section. The role call will end May 31; please move your name now if you are still interested. For more information on how to help the project, visit the How to help section at our project page! &middot MonoBot04:20, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Bot Disarming

I disarmed the bot for removing an image on my User page that was fanmade. This was the second time the bot did that.--It's my Junior year in High School! (talk) 20:39, 28 April 2010 (UTC)Chris

The image (File:SLAPSTICK.jpg) is tagged as a fair-use image, and is therefore (on wikipedia) restricted to the Non-free content criteria. If I may quote that page:

9. Restrictions on location: Non-free content is allowed only in articles (not disambiguation pages), and only in article namespace...

I am sorry, but unfortunatly you cannot have that image on your user page. (You can, however have a link to it.) Please ask any other questions you may have.
Sincerely Tim1357 talk 01:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

The articles on Gerry Desjardins and Marty Pavelich are legitimate articles. www.hockeydb.com was their source.

And I have another complaint. Game two of the 1925 Stanley Cup finals was played at Denman Arena in Vancouver---yet the Stanley Cup final article says all games were played at Patrick Arena in Victoria. Could you please change the location for game two to Denman Arena? My source is The Trail of the Stanley Cup Vol. I by Charles L. Coleman (The reason they played at Denman Arena for game two was that Denman Arena had a seating capacity of 10,500 and it helped pay the increasing Stanley Cup salaries to players. Patrick Arena only seated 4,000.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corey Bryant (talk • contribs) 19:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

About: File:Kolkata Meetup Map 9 July 2011.png

Hi Tim1357!
DASHBot has given me a notification that File:Kolkata Meetup Map 9 July 2011.png is orphaned. However, the file is being used on a Wikipedia:MEETUP page (Wikipedia:Meetup/Kolkata/Kolkata6).
Regards,
Guitarist(talk|contributions)05:45, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Dashbot is having a good run tonight, I see...

Noticed that Dashbot is running tonight, and having quite a run tagging all the orphaned non-free files. One thing that it did, however, is it double-tagged File:RachelJ.jpg (diff). I've already fixed the double-tagging, but I thought I'd let you know, just in case this is something where the bot isn't (yet) programmed to check for existing tags before tagging, or if it is and it's malfunctioning. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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