User talk:Demiurge1000

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1st Airborne Division

Emblem of British Airborne Forces

Thanks for you help the 1st Airborne Division Good Topic has now been been completed. The nomination is here Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/1st Airborne Division (United Kingdom)/archive1 if you want to participate. Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:29, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic, I'd read about featured topics but I'd forgotten that good topics were possible too. I guess there might one day be a similar one related to 6th Airborne Division? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

September barnstars

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	This barnstar is awarded to Demiurge1000 for copy editing articles totalling over 8000 words during the GOCE September copy edit drive. Thank you very much for your help! Dianna (talk) 05:06, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

		Leaderboard Award—5k articles—5th Place (tied)
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Demiurge1000 for copy editing one article of 5000 words or more during the WP:GOCE September 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you so much for your contributions to the project. -- Dianna (talk)

Ooh, thanks Dianna! I didn't realise there were awards based on copyediting longer articles, that's great. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

Barnstar of Diligence

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your ongoing help with the NNU class project!Njnu-ban-xueshenghao (talk) 03:03, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Tapani CSD

Coatrack!

Hi Demiurge - I removed the A7 from Tapani Koivuniemi. He definitely has the level of coverage necessary to meet the GNG. There are two sources from Helsingin Sanomat (the largest newspaper in Finland) already in the article, and there are plenty more available. Kevin (talk) 01:09, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Article is a WP:COATRACK, he does not even come close to meeting WP:GNG. Taken to AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tapani Koivuniemi. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Please look at

Rcsprinter (talk) 17:04, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 backlog elimination drive report GOCE September 2011 Backlog elimination drive progress graphs Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We would like to thank all who participated in this drive. Here is the end-of-drive report. Participation There were 58 editors who signed-up for this drive, of which 42 participated. This is a slight increase from the July 2011 drive participation, where 39 out of 50 people that signed up participated. Thank you to everyone! Progress report During the drive, we reduced the backlog by 146 articles, or by about 4%. Overall we did well, especially considering the exceptionally large number of articles that were tagged during September. Thus far we have reduced the copy edit backlog by 4854 articles, or by about 58%. If we keep up our current rate of copy editing, the backlog should be reduced by 65–70% by the end of this year. End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. Barnstars will be handed out this week. Once again, thank you for participating in the Guild's September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Our next drive will be in November, and we hope to see you there! Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Thanks Demiurge1000 for helping to promote 3rd Parachute Brigade (United Kingdom) to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give some a pat on the back today. Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 04:52, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Zoom Interface to help coordinate article improvement

Hi Demi! Will you make a link to planning so others can find it? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:27, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done (oops, this was a while ago.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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FYI :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Perfect, problem solved :) Thanks. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Dragosh

Problems related to football in Romania

I don't think he has an account on Ro.Wikipedia. From what I talked to him, he edited only on En.Wikipedia. I personally explained to him what he did wrong, but he didn't understood. I even tried to help him, but with no use. I think he is yet too young to be an editor. And yes, I will translate the explanation, but Andrei already put one on his talk page, in Romanian. Alexynho (talk) 12:10, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the translation. Stay hopeful for the future outcome in a year's time! And I suppose you'd better keep an eye on ro.wiki in case he does follow the advice, and just ends up creating chaos there :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Harriet Harman

I've listened to one of her speeches from the public gallery, a long time ago

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Help

From a school in Sussex County, New Jersey, of which this is the highest point

Can you create my vector.js and vector.css page? I want to put up a message box to convince the boneheads here to stop messing around. I will have to talk with the IT director to find the source of these edits, kids shouldn't be making these edits instead of doing their work.

Also, an English teacher found a number of errors on a few articles, mabye I can get him to highlight them.

I'm so sorry for the conduct of my classmates. I have an account which I will not state for privacy reasons. I thank you for your help.--207.99.40.142 (talk) 12:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Umm! If IP addresses are unable to create vector.js and vector.css pages for themselves, there's probably a fairly good reason for that. Let me know what you want to be in the message box (on your IP's talk page, presumably?) and I'll put it there.

Encouraging teachers (or others) to make constructive edits, such as spelling or grammar corrections, would be a good way to avoid the IP address getting blocked permanently. Or, I suppose you could encourage them to make accounts instead. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Now that is a coincidence

Easier on one of these? Not sure

Hello Demiurge 1000. Having just seen your edit summary here [1] I thought you might like to see this one [2] that I posted a mere matter of minutes before yours. The design change in keyboards is one reason that I like this User:Mufka/Userboxes/typewriter userbox. Thanks for being part of a fun, for me anyway, coincidence and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 17:30, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Ha, I've used a "real" typewriter as well... but only just! I doubt I'd manage very well with one now - apart from anything else, I'd forgotten the very considerable changes in the height of keys they had, from the front to the back of the keyboard. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

NNU student

Hello, i wrote an article, can you give me some suggestions? Thank you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Yu_Yu Nnu-12-22100562 (talk) 08:38, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Demiurge 1000! Olympe 404 (talk) 08:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I notice that this article is about Peggy Yu. The present article is only a one-liner, though. Should the student move her content there? Njnu-ban-xueshenghao (talk) 10:10, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes I think that's probably the best idea. I've suggested this on the student's talk page, along with a couple of other ideas. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

breaking into wikipedia

Mike is a notable Wikipedian mainly due to a court case that ended up in this building.

hi demiurge

thanks for help. i finally think i got to your user talk page. i want to break into editing but, as discussed, not sure where and how to begin.

now when you respond to this post, will it show up on my user talk page? If not, is there any way you can respond to me by email so that i know what you have said (either msiris@solomonsiris.com or mikesiris@gmail.com). i am assuming that isnt allowed but i just want to insure that i see your response

as i said before, it seems like there is a lot to learn.

are there gradations of editors?

for instance, i guess i am an "editor" in the sense that anyone can edit an article? but how is the hierachry set up? obviously, you have gradations. not anyone can post a tag of , say, a COI at the top of an article. who decides who those people are? how do they get to those positions?

thanks--hope i am doing this right. i am going to use four 17:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC) but my name is mike siris Mikesiris (talk) 17:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

breaking into wikipedia

demiurge, here is a question, that relates on how to break into wikipedia, i am an attorney so i have many colleagues/friends who i believe should be in there but are not (conversely, i have seen some attys who are in who i dont think should be in). i might consider doing a bio on one of these colleagues/friends (and would ask the person beforehand) but then I run into the COI problem that is at the forefront (literally) of the article about me. i think, frankly, this is ridiculous. i know i am in a position to know if an atty is deserving enough to be in there (at least in the area in which i specialize). there has to be a way around this. for instance, let's say i got permission from a colleague i know and posted his bio, i could simply say as part of the post that i know the person but i dont think my neutrality has been compromised. i mean it is totally impossible to be competely objective and, indeed, an argument can be made that it is only because of your knowledge about that person and familarity with him/her that you are in a position to know about that person. That is, the person might be extremely worthy but, if i did not know him/her, he/she might never make into wiki--a disservice to wiki that makes no sense.75.99.90.234 (talk) 19:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Demiurge

I am back, as they said in Poltergeist--or similar words. Anyway, did you see my question regarding my creating a wiki entry for a friend/attorney who is a colleague and who i know is worthy? It seems ridiculous that I should be barred from doing so if the person truly is worthy and not included in wiki? What if I dislclose, in creating the entry, that I know the person. I have some friends in mind who I know deserver inclusion (and indeed who may not care one way or the other if they are in). It would seem like a good place/way for me to break in?? What say you? Thanks Mikesiris (talk) 20:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker comment:) Mike, if you have a potential conflict of interest then it isn't a good idea to create an article straight away. If you think that this person is notable enough then there are three possible things you can do:

• write a userspace draft User:Mikesiris/sandbox
• use the article wizard
• request that the article be created

My suggestion is that you click that red link above & write the article that you want to write and then ask someone (Me, Demiurge1000 or someone else) to review it. Then we'll let you know how to improve it, or whether the subject meets the notability guidelines.

--Mrmatiko (talk) 06:05, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

demiurge

i had a message from your talkpage but it was from a "talk page stalker"---mr. natico or something like that. i take it from the link on tps that these are simply people monitoring your/my talk messages, making constructive suggestons sometimes? in any case, did you see his/her comment and do you agree? i would like to get started on editing (or creating) but dont want to make this more complicated than need be. i still havent gotten around to reading the various articles you suggested. thanks Mikesiris (talk) 11:38, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike, sorry for the long delay; I've replied in detail to various of the above points, back on your talk page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Help needed for a student class project

The university looks lovely but the architecture looks a bit brutalist!

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Classroom coordination/SFSU Class Project and consider adding your name.

According to the teacher's instructions, this group of students may not create a lot of new articles, but may instead focus more on improving existing articles. The scope of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Classroom coordination/SFSU Class Project is mainly concerned with new articles. So, there may be little for us to do in the way the Wikipedia:WikiProject_China/NNU Class Project required. The students, however, may call on us for guidance in other areas. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:10, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Anna, thanks for letting me know. I'm very short of time at the moment, but I'll try and look in when I get a chance. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

breaking into wikipedia

demiurge

wow!! that was a very thoughtful message. and, yes, i see your point about bios of living person--atty/colleagues (I wasnt actually thinking of anyone in my firm, as that would be an obvious conflict, but of colleagues who are friends but who I know are considered to be a "lawyer's lawyer"--that is, a lawyer who another lawyer would go to for advice.) i will think about what you wrote and certainly not rush into writing a bio of a colleague (whose permission i would seek in the first place). you certainly gave me plenty of other law-related topics to think about.

realizing all the wiki help that is available, including the live chattig (where i met you), what i feel i really need would be a wiki expert to sit down w me at the computer and help me get through some of this stuff by showing me. i wonder if there are such people out there. i went on google and type in "wiki expert" but didnt get anything. i might try "wiki lessons" which is what i am talking about.

getting back to law related material, the US Supreme Court Citizens Union case was a very significant development in the field of campaing finance law. i may take a look to see if there is an entry for that and, if not, i wonder if that is the type of case you are talking about. of course, there are many many cases coming down all the time from different courts so it is hard to decide why one particular one would be worth writing up but, for some reason, that case comes to mind (it is not in an area in which i practice but i have read about the case in the newspapers).

Ol Yeller (who put up the COI tag on the article posted about me) wrote on my talk page that he would take it down. i dont know if he has, but , if he hasnt and if you think it appropriate to do so at this point, that would be much appreciated.

btw, i hear what you are saying about talkpages and stalkers but i sure wouldnt mind talking to someone to help walk me through some of this stuff (as indicated above by my reference to "wiki lessons"). i take it that your schedule is such, and/or the rules of wiki are such, that that wouldnt be permitted? i dont feel in am yet in a position to be tutored (i need to read more background material) but, once i get a better handle on things, a one on one tutorial is something that i think could help me (make a contribution to wiki).

i had no idea that wiki was supported by donations and that so many volunteers like yourself are what makes it go. that is really mind blowing. i doubt that most of the public is even aware of that.

anyway, i can see i have a long way to go here.

thanks for your help, suggestions and encourage.

Mikesiris (talk) 20:57, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

breaking into wikipedia

demiurge

two specific questions:

1. let's say i decide to take a stab at a bio of living person i know and i want to disclose that i know that person. how would i indicate that so the the community would be aware of a potential conflict of interest?

2. w/r to questions such as above, am i better of posting them on my own "talkpage"--with a view towards inviting more responses--or writing directly to you in response to your message to me?

thanks ps in the event you are available to talk one on one to me, pls send me phone number.

21:30, 15 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikesiris (talk • contribs)

breaking in

demiurge

at the risk of overburdening you w questions, here is one more:

i wrote to you a response about writing on the law and, on my talk page, there seems to be a response from someone beginning "heyo" (and he is a "fellow jurist"). but unlike the messages from you, there didnt appear to be a way to "talk" back to him--no link. if he is an atty and a wiki editor, he is someone i might want to speak to. indeed, he implied that i might be able to assist him w something.

if you see his message (i guess on my talk page?), could you let me know how i write back to him

thanks

Mikesiris (talk) 03:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike. I see Ironholds has now signed his post on your talk page. However, to check who wrote what and when, whether on a talk page or indeed on an actual article, you can click View History at the top of the page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:17, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Hi Dem! I hope you enjoy this home-made cookie of mine as a warm greeting from a fellow Wikipedian. Sp33dyphil © • © 09:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:17, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Ani-Matilda Serebrakian and notability tag

About an Alpine skier

Isn't she notable for just participating in the Olympics per WP:ATH? Regards, --Bbb23 (talk) 19:07, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

No, WP:ATH actually says "...the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. These are merely rules of thumb which some editors choose to keep in mind..."

However, in this specific case, some searches reveal that there is indeed significant coverage of this person (as one might expect, I suppose) so I've removed the notability template. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:17, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Most of the notability guidelines have that kind of language, but I imagine the more specific language about the Olympics would be cited to if the article was AfD'd and there was no other coverage. In any event, given your research, the issue is moot for this article. I'm happy to leave the article in your capable hands. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 22:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Your DYK nom for Tim Guthrie

Hi Demiurge, I've reviewed your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Tim Guthrie and there are some issues with referencing and an image. Please reply at the nomination page when you get a chance. Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:19, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Crisco, will try to get back to it soon. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

New pages

Thanks for your willingness to help me through this... What's your advice for the best, fastest way to get information up about an organization that doesn't currently have a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmetz (talk • contribs) 21:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

What I'll do, is to see if I can turn it into a viable article, over the next week or so.

What you can do to help, is to keep adding reliable independent sources to the draft article (like the ones you already have at the end). Newspapers, books, magazines and reputable online news sites are all good. Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, most blogs, and websites run by or associated with the organisation itself, are all bad. The more the better, regardless of whether they're online or offline, national press or local press is all fine.

If "a week or so" is too long, then a suggested starting point is WP:PSCOI. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

NNU

Hello, Demiurge 1000. I have moved my article to Peggy Yu. Thank you fou you advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnu-12-22100562 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Great! Good job! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

breaking in

demiurge

can you give me some guidance on communicating as i am attempting to do here?

for instance, am i supposed to post something on my own talk page for the public at large to see/answer? or am i supposed to post/reply on your talk page a i am now doing? or does my reply to you show up on my own talk page?

in any case, i would like to start a draft of a friend, Louis J Schepp, who is a well known trial attorney in the NY metropolitan area. i understand this should be done in draft form on my own talk page?

thanks for any assistance here

75.99.90.234 (talk) 14:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike, you forgot to log in to your account when posting this :) Talk pages can work either way. If someone posts on your talk page, you can reply in the same place (but use a : before each line of your reply, so that it indents it, like I'm doing). Alternatively, you can reply by posting on the other person's talk page. You can also use your watchlist to see what changes are made, either to other people's talk pages, or to articles that you're interested in. Just click the star at the top of the page to add it to your watchlist; then click My watchlist (right at the top) to see what recent changes have been made to pages on your watchlist. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ruhollah Khomeini

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Mikesiris messages

Messages from Michael Siris

demiurge

i just wrote to you but using "edit"--was that not correct? I am now writing to you on your talkpage? anyway, i think i followed your instructions, uploaded a photo to wikiepdia commons, and then inserted the link to the photo in the article. hope i did it right. i will be quite proud of myself if i did as i sometimes am technologically challenged or impatient!!! ):

thanks

Mikesiris (talk) 23:05, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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(copied from userpage by HurricaneFan25, hope you don't mind)
demiurge

i think i followed the instuctions on uploading photo and inserted the link to the photo in the article. you said you will be watching to make sure i did it right--thanks. so i am writing to you on your talk page??

thanks agaiin

Mikesiris (talk) 23:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike, I think the first time you got my userpage instead of my talk page (note that one says User:Demiurge1000 at the top, and one says User talk:Demiurge1000), but HurricaneFan25 has kindly moved it to the right place.

Yes, the photo looks perfect! You forgot to put a Description in, but I've fixed that; and Chzz has cropped the top off the photo so that we get more of you and less of the plant :) It's now on the article (Michael Siris). If you Edit the article, you should be able to see the Infobox template that I put it in. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Rebecca Reyes

File:Reby-Sky-Red-Carpet.jpg

About this nice lady

i disagree with you. but in any event, how about you fix it yourself instead of bitching about alleged copyright violations? fix it so it shows all that information but in a way that u think is correct so u can show me how it is done.

Sure, I'll do that sometime over the next couple of days. However, there are three things we have to keep in mind here. First, we can't copy and paste entire sentences (or even parts of sentences) from other people's websites - that's the copyright thing. Second, we have to be neutral - so if one source carries a story relating her side of things, and another source carries a story only giving the police's allegations, we can't just ignore one of them. Third, we have to take into consideration due weight - in thirty years time, would someone writing a biography of Reby Sky have an entire section (an entire chapter?) about her getting arrested after a traffic stop? Or is it just something that was in the news this week, and isn't really central to her career? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Notification about a stray word

demi i note that in 4th par from bottom of bio on me the word "the" appears 2 x in a row . as o am not allowed to correvt do u mind174.254.194.20 (talk) 01:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

pologize for typos. i am on handheld 174.254.194.20 (talk) 01:05, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

did u see my message about typo in 4th par from bottom? on han.dheld so pls excuse typos 174.254.194.20 (talk) 01:08, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the spurious extra word has been fixed. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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derek goldby

This guy was assistant director here in the 1960s, before directing plays on Broadway and many other places

Yes, I am director of Autumn and Winter at the Orange Tree Theatre, as reviewed by Michael Billington in the Guardian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.59.123 (talk) 03:46, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the piece you referred to is quite false and I didnt realise wikipedia was so open to abuse. Since someone is clearly tampering with my bio, I dont want to have to check it every day, so I would strongly request that you remove me. 86.179.59.123 (talk) 05:53, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Given your recent history of edits to the abovementioned entry, I would like to point out that using WP for (self-)promotional purposes goes against WP:BLP.Neil pye (talk) 10:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I attempted to edit in a full list of my recent credits but it was blocked. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.59.123 (talk) 10:14, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Derek. Thanks for the details of the piece in the Guardian, that's been useful to me in understanding the situation. I'm not sure which edit (and when) added the details of the additional credits (productions you've worked on), but most likely it was removed because information in Wikipedia articles needs to be referenced in a reliable independent source. In any case, it's best to avoid editing your own article, as you have a conflict of interest. I've posted about the issues you've raised at some length at Talk:Derek Goldby. It's probably best to continue the discussion either there or at WP:BLPN#Derek Goldby. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

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Differences between user pages and talk pages. And more!

One to one help! In New York! This Saturday! Yes!

Hi Demiurge

Still struggling away here. You say one on one WK help feasible? How do I go about getting some?

Did you see (on my talkpage?) the analogy Ssilvers put up, saying think of the front and back pages of a book (the front being the article the back being the talk page?)) Could you explain a little further what he meant--and the differences between a talkpage and userpage?

Thanks

Mikesiris (talk) 14:09, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

With regard to one on one help, read the details at Wikipedia:The Musical, obtain the library card if you don't already have one, turn up on the day? It's this Saturday!

This is the sort of thing I put on my user page. Just because I can!

With regard to the differences between talk pages and user pages, let's go through some examples;

• Richard H. Stern is Wikipedia's article about the attorney and law professor of that name. If I go to www.google.com and type in "Richard H. Stern", then this is the Wikipedia page that is the first search result. This is an article, it's a part of the encyclopedia, it's the end product of what Wikipedia produces.
• Talk:Richard H. Stern is the article talk page for that article. It's used for discussion of that article - although there doesn't seem to be any just yet. For the time being, it just has some general information about which projects the article is in, the fact that the article is about a living person, et cetera.

• User:PraeceptorIP is a Wikipedia user page for the Wikipedia editor PraeceptorIP. This editor just so happens to be one and the same as Richard H. Stern. He uses this user page to put things about himself that other editors may find of interest. These things are supposed to be vaguely relevant to improving the encyclopedia; but this is not an encyclopedia article.
• User talk:PraeceptorIP is the Wikipedia user talk page for the Wikipedia editor PraeceptorIP. This is where we post messages for that editor. He might reply on his own talk page, or he might reply on our talk page, or he might decide it would be more appropriate to reply on the article talk page of whatever article we're talking about.

• Michael Siris is Wikipedia's article about the attorney of that name. If I go to www.google.com and type in "Michael Siris", then this is the Wikipedia page that is the second search result. This is an article, it's a part of the encyclopedia, it's the end product of what Wikipedia produces.
• Talk:Michael Siris is the article talk page for that article. It's used for discussion of that article, and there has been some.

• User:Mikesiris is a Wikipedia user page for the Wikipedia editor Mikesiris. This editor just so happens to be one and the same as Michael Siris. He would use this user page to put things about himself that other editors may find of interest; but because he hasn't put anything there yet, the page doesn't yet exist (that's why it's red). Things put on the page are supposed to be vaguely relevant to improving the encyclopedia; but this is not an encyclopedia article.
• User talk:Mikesiris is the Wikipedia user talk page for the Wikipedia editor Mikesiris. This is where we post messages for that editor. He might reply on his own talk page, or he might reply on our talk page, or he might decide it would be more appropriate to reply on the article talk page of whatever article we're talking about.

• User:Demiurge1000 is the Wikipedia user page for the Wikipedia editor Demiurge1000. Like most Wikipedia editors, there is no Wikipedia article about this editor (or at least, not that he's made public). He uses this user page to put things about himself that other editors may find of interest. These things are supposed to be vaguely relevant to improving the encyclopedia; but this is not an encyclopedia article.
• User talk:Demiurge1000 is the Wikipedia user talk page for the Wikipedia editor Demiurge1000. (YOU ARE HERE - that's why it's not a link.) This is where we post messages for that editor. He might reply here on his (my) own talk page, or he might reply on our talk page, or he might decide it would be more appropriate to reply on the article talk page of whatever article we're talking about. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

KF

Increasingly puzzling

This was about a disgusting an edit summay violating NPA as it gets. Regretfully I'm not able to take action. Apologies for that. Pedro :  Chat  20:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Exactly as he said. Worm^TT · (talk) 20:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts. I'm apparently a jerk that must be removed, as well. Or at least, that's one of the options.

It's all increasingly puzzling. I had realised there was something strange about the KW-Lihaas connection when I saw that Lihaas was the one single editor, out of all the ones he contacted, that KW very carefully sought to bring in without openly mentioning that it was the RfC/U that he wanted comments on. It stood out like a sore thumb. And of course I knew that KW had gone to some lengths to defend Lihaas in the past. (Needs a fair bit of defending - AE block for violating sanctions on a political topic, a block for soapboxing at WP:ITN/C, and two other blocks for edit warring.) But I definitely wasn't expecting a huge explosion like this, over a simple and easily provable statement of fact. There's something very odd here.

As for the joke/not joke thing, that's even more bizarre. I respect people's right to be open about their political views, but it really doesn't reflect well on the editor whether it's a "joke" or sincere. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:13, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

edits

About sources for Mike's narrow escape from becoming a judge

Demiruge

Noting that I am not supposed to edit an article of which I am a subject, I see two requests for citations in the article about me:

1. reference to mailings giving incumbents unfair advantage: I believe the "[John] Feerick Commission" (or some other governmental bodies wrote extensively on how the mailing privilege was abused by incumbents (who statistically, at least in NYS, were returned to office at a rate of over 98%). I can look for the cite and send it to you if you like.

2. regarding my nomination to the NYS Supreme Court dying in Committee, all I can say is that, if it had not died in Committee, I would probably be on the bench now (the term is for 14 years but judges are routinely re-elected). Perhaps there is some way to access the records of the NYS Senate Judiciary Committee--I will take a look if you like.

I hope the above is helpful.

I am enjoying this immensely. And I am anxious to start making a contribution to WK

Thanks again

75.99.90.234 (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike... yes, details of these would be quite interesting. I've made a variety of replies to a variety of questions you asked above - you may need to scroll up and down a bit to find everything. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Some advice

Some of the weapons involved

Hi Demiurge

I'm looking for some advice how would you write the following sentence?

During their searches of Jewish and Arab settlements, men from the division had located ninety-two mortars, thirty-four machine guns, 174 sub machine guns, 375 rifles, 391 pistols, ninety-seven land mines, 2,582 hand grenades and 302,530 rounds of ammunition

or

During their searches of Jewish and Arab settlements, men from the division had located 92 mortars, 34 machine guns, 174 sub machine guns, 375 rifles, 391 pistols, 97 land mines, 2,582 hand grenades and 302,530 rounds of ammunition.

I'm leaning towards the second but following you recent discussion about WP:ORDINAL the numbers in the rest of the article are written as: nine and seventy-five for example. Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:46, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jim, this is a tricky one. I noticed a sentence in Max Hastings' Armegeddon with similar contents where he uses almost exactly the first format. It's a very striking example (because a very long list with quite a few different sizes of numbers in it), I should've kept the page number. However, unless this particular sentence is really near another similar sentence that will have spelled-out numbers, I think it's fine to use the second format. All of the numbers here are in the range of several dozens at least, and none of them can be spelled out as a single word, which, to me, does make a difference.

I know an argument could be made for being absolutely 100% consistent within the article, but I think it's more important to be consistent within the sentence and to keep things readable rather than jarring - after all, the ordinary reader is very unlikely to notice that seventy-five is spelled out in words a few paragraphs away. So I think the second format is ok, even despite a few other parts of the article being different. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - I just noticed the image was copied over as well LOL. Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)