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== Another [[WP:URFA/2020]] reminder == |
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As the 2020 FA sweeps advance, there remain a considerable number of 2006 WP Cyclone FAs from 2004–2006 that have not been evaluated in terms of whether they still meet [[WP:WIAFA|FA standards]] or need to be [[WP:FAR|submitted for review]]. If Project members could evaluate these, and enter commentary on article talk (or mark "Satisfactory" at [[WP:URFA/2020]]), that would help get the ball rolling towards either marking these articles as "Satisfactory" or sending them to FAR. |
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* [[Hurricane Iniki]] |
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* [[Hurricane Gloria]] |
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* [[Hurricane Claudette (2003)]] |
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* [[Hurricane Nora (1997)]] |
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* [[Hurricane John (1994)]] |
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* [[Tropical Storm Allison]] |
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* [[Hurricane Irene (1999)]] |
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* [[Hurricane Esther]] |
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* [[1933 Atlantic hurricane season]] |
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* [[Hurricane Gustav (2002)]] |
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* [[Hurricane Fabian]] |
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* [[Hurricane Edith (1971)]] |
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* [[Tropical Storm Bill (2003)]] |
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* [[Tropical Storm Bonnie (2004)]] |
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* [[Tropical Storm Henri (2003)]] |
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* [[1995 Pacific hurricane season]] |
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* [[Hurricane Erika (2003)]] |
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* [[Tropical Storm Edouard (2002)]] |
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This list comprises a substantial proportion of the older FAs that need review; help from this Project in either marking them "Satisfactory", or entering notes of improvement needed on article talk under a section heading <nowiki> == [[WP:URFA/2020]] == </nowiki> would be most appreciated. If you could each do one a week, we might get these resolved! Best regards, [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 02:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC) |
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Did you know
- 05 Aug 2024 – Meteorological history of Cyclone Freddy (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by HurricaneEdgar (t · c); see discussion
Templates for discussion
- 09 Aug 2024 – Template:Hurricane Dennis series (talk · edit · hist) TfDed by Hurricanehink (t · c) was closed; see discussion
Featured article candidates
- 10 Aug 2024 – Hurricane Cindy (2005) (talk · edit · hist) was FA nominated by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
Featured list candidates
- 24 Jul 2024 – Timeline of the 1995 Pacific hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was FL nominated by Dylan620 (t · c); see discussion
Good article nominees
- 10 Aug 2024 – Tropical Storm Kai-tak (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by TheNuggeteer (t · c); see discussion
- 21 Jul 2024 – Tropical Storm Harold (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by IrishSurfer21 (t · c); see discussion
- 17 Apr 2024 – 1876 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by 12george1 (t · c); start discussion
- 09 Apr 2024 – 1873 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by 12george1 (t · c); start discussion
Good article reassessments
- 11 Aug 2024 – 1982 Pacific typhoon season (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for GA reassessment by Z1720 (t · c); see discussion
Articles to be merged
- 12 Aug 2024 – Hurricane Cora (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 1978 Atlantic hurricane season by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 12 Aug 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Isabel in Pennsylvania (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New York and New England by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
- 12 Aug 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New Jersey (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New York and New England by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
- 12 Aug 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New York and New England (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New Jersey by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
- 11 Aug 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Katrina in Mississippi (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Hurricane Katrina in the southeastern United States by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 11 Aug 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Katrina in Alabama (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Hurricane Katrina in the southeastern United States by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 11 Aug 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Katrina in Florida (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Effects of Hurricane Katrina in the southeastern United States by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 10 Aug 2024 – Hurricane Katrina effects by region (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Hurricane Katrina by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
- 09 Aug 2024 – Effects of Tropical Storm Allison in Texas (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Tropical Storm Allison by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 08 Aug 2024 – Tropical Depression Sixteen-E (2004) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 2004 Atlantic hurricane season by Zzzs (t · c); see discussion
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Articles for creation
- 15 Aug 2024 – Draft:Tropical Storm Maria (2024) (talk · edit · hist) submitted for AfC by 119.94.44.85 (t · c) was moved to Tropical Storm Maria (2024) (talk · edit · hist) by HurricaneEdgar (t · c) on 18 Aug 2024
- 02 Aug 2024 – Draft:Meteorological history of Hurricane Sally (talk · edit · hist) submitted for AfC by 107.122.189.15 (t · c) was moved to Meteorological history of Hurricane Sally (talk · edit · hist) by Mariacallas2024 (t · c) on 12 Aug 2024
- undated – Draft:Hurricane Ernesto (2024) (talk · edit · hist) submitted for AfC was accepted to Hurricane Ernesto (2024) (talk · edit · hist) by Robert McClenon (t · c) on 19 Aug 2024
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Project notes
I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. Jdorje 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
2018 Global FT
Bumping thread for 730 days. However long it takes... NoahTalk 16:07, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- WPAC work will take longer than it could have, so maybe bumping this until 16:07 UTC 25 May 2023. Feel free to revert. MarioJump83! 02:00, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
What's in the topic?
Tropical cyclones in 2018 (future featured topic)
2018 Pacific typhoon season
Tropical Storm Bolaven
Tropical Storm Sanba
Tropical Storm Maliksi
Tropical Storm Ewiniar
Typhoon Prapiroon
Typhoon Maria
Tropical Storm Son-Tinh
Tropical Storm Ampil
Typhoon Jongdari
Typhoon Shanshan
Tropical Storm Yagi
Tropical Storm Bebinca
Tropical Storm Rumbia
Typhoon Soulik
Typhoon Cimaron
Typhoon Jebi
Typhoon Mangkhut
Tropical Storm Barijat
Typhoon Trami
Typhoon Kong-rey
Typhoon Yutu
Tropical Storm Usagi
Tropical Storm Toraji
Tropical Depression Josie
Tropical Depression Usman
Timeline of the 2018 Pacific typhoon season
- Liua may be another possible article. NoahTalk 17:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: this spreadsheet is here if you need it. NoahTalk 20:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
@Hurricanehink: I thought that I would bring this rather large topic to the eyes of the project... I have worked extensively on the EPAC portion and almost have enough for an FT there. I plan to Leslie with Cooper and Gordon this summer. Any thoughts on this topic? NoahTalk 02:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- I believe a global FT would only feature the seasons, as each individual season could be its own good/featured topic. As usual, WPAC is going to be the biggest holdup. Also, the retired storms will be on the difficult side. I appreciate the efforts for a global GT/FT for a year. Eventually I think that navbox could go on the talk page for Talk:Tropical cyclones in 2018. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:38, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: This is displaying all storms involved in the subtopics... there are 60 total articles, but this has multiple subtopics. That is why there is indentation for storms and then for Florence's Met. Although that could be an issue for the SHEM seasons since some storms would not qualify as part of this year, but would for other years. NoahTalk 13:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- You're right. For instance, the 2018-19 SWIO season would need to be a GA, but (thankfully) not Idai and Kenneth. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: How should we handle this? NoahTalk 21:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean handle. All storms with articles in 2018 will have to be a GA or better. It'll be a lot of work, but it'll be impressive when it's done when it gets there. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I mean how would the SHEM be handled since the entire season subtopic wouldnt get included? Should we just have the topic as it currently stands to keep it consistent? NoahTalk 17:59, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricane Noah: All of the topics for the SHEM seasons wouldn't have to be included. For instance, Idai being a 2019 storm wouldn't have to be a GA for the overall 2018 topic. Similarly, the 2018-19 season wouldn't have to become a GT for the whole topic, but it would have to be a GA at least. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I mean how would the SHEM be handled since the entire season subtopic wouldnt get included? Should we just have the topic as it currently stands to keep it consistent? NoahTalk 17:59, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean handle. All storms with articles in 2018 will have to be a GA or better. It'll be a lot of work, but it'll be impressive when it's done when it gets there. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: How should we handle this? NoahTalk 21:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- You're right. For instance, the 2018-19 SWIO season would need to be a GA, but (thankfully) not Idai and Kenneth. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: This is displaying all storms involved in the subtopics... there are 60 total articles, but this has multiple subtopics. That is why there is indentation for storms and then for Florence's Met. Although that could be an issue for the SHEM seasons since some storms would not qualify as part of this year, but would for other years. NoahTalk 13:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Have you seen the progress that KN has been making in WPAC? NoahTalk 16:03, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- I have! Good job KN, and good job to TY2013 for working on Usman. I might get Sagar and Mekunu to FA eventually (would just need one more FA to make that season an FT) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- No worries! Personally think that there should be an article for Tropical Depression Josie. Like even so, it seems to be more significant than Cimaron. Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:00, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- @ChocolateTrain: Would you be willing to help get the southern hemisphere up to a good quality for this topic? NoahTalk 01:33, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Accompanying task force hasn't been linked on this page, so here it is. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 06:44, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
2018 Pacific hurricane season (Featured topic)
Any thoughts on having a 2018 Pacific hurricane season featured topic within the next few months? My goal is to rewrite Walaka on Monday/Tuesday (and put it up for ACR) to make it better. I want to later rewrite Olivia and Bud to improve them both (also ACR). CooperScience is working on the timeline article currently as well. NoahTalk 19:00, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Good idea. I'm busy with Cyclone Owen now, but I'm nearly done. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Chicdat: The first article is the hardest to do usually. There is no time restraint on the work. Keep in mind I have been working on this topic on and off for two years now. NoahTalk 19:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink and Chicdat: I can tell you that the topic isn't going to be happening until 2021. I actually would like to hold off on nominating it (even after the timeline is done) until I have gotten the chance to rewrite the storm articles I need to (Bud and Olivia at this point) and get them to FA. I think it would be cool to have an entirely featured featured topic going into the nomination. I really appreciate the effort everyone has put into the topic. I hope to do this prolific season due justice. Bud will be next storm I rewrite (after Leslie in ATL). I will do Olivia in December most likely. NoahTalk 23:34, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think the entire worldwide topic should be done by 2023 (the 5 year anniversary), which will allow for a lot of TFA's. ~Hurricanehink (talk) 18:25, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: A GT should be doable, but idk about a FT by that time. After Hector, we would need 31 more (32 if we need a couple more WPAC articles). I will continue doing EPAC FAs and move to ATL next year, but it will take more than what I am able to do to get us all the way there in only two years. NoahTalk 19:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- You're right, 11 per year is a lot. It's doable, for sure, but is probably too steep a hill. I'm already committed to Mekunu, Sagar, 2018 NIO, and Alberto. I'm interested in Yutu for the PTS. But that's only 5, and my editing time isn't what it used to be (peak 2007-08 during college, should've studied/partied more, oh well ._.) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:24, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: A GT should be doable, but idk about a FT by that time. After Hector, we would need 31 more (32 if we need a couple more WPAC articles). I will continue doing EPAC FAs and move to ATL next year, but it will take more than what I am able to do to get us all the way there in only two years. NoahTalk 19:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think the entire worldwide topic should be done by 2023 (the 5 year anniversary), which will allow for a lot of TFA's. ~Hurricanehink (talk) 18:25, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink and Chicdat: I can tell you that the topic isn't going to be happening until 2021. I actually would like to hold off on nominating it (even after the timeline is done) until I have gotten the chance to rewrite the storm articles I need to (Bud and Olivia at this point) and get them to FA. I think it would be cool to have an entirely featured featured topic going into the nomination. I really appreciate the effort everyone has put into the topic. I hope to do this prolific season due justice. Bud will be next storm I rewrite (after Leslie in ATL). I will do Olivia in December most likely. NoahTalk 23:34, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Chicdat: The first article is the hardest to do usually. There is no time restraint on the work. Keep in mind I have been working on this topic on and off for two years now. NoahTalk 19:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Actually, I am going to get involved with finishing off this EPAC timeline article (I will finish August and do October). Nova has expressed interest in helping to finish it and KN may be willing to lend a hand. I do know that KN said he plans to do a bunch of PTS articles in December as he will be done with his months of exams. NoahTalk 21:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- The WPAC is gonna be a majority of the remaining work, especially with needing four new articles, and improving five start-class articles. Here's hoping the tropics get quiet soon so we don't have to keep up with the busy active season! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:15, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- So the remaining nominations for the EPAC in the likely order of completion:
Hurricane Bud (2018)
Timeline of the 2018 Pacific hurricane season - CB has been hammering this one
2018 Pacific hurricane season
Hurricane Olivia (2018) - I'm working on fixing up this storm rn
2018 Pacific hurricane season - I will update this article (Bud, Olivia, and ACE) after finishing Olivia
- How does this sound? NoahTalk 11:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well. This is almost perfectly done, only Hurricane Bud (2018) and 2018 Pacific hurricane season aren't FAs yet. I think Hurricane Bud should be at least an A-class article. MarioJump83! 05:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- How does this sound? NoahTalk 11:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Adding this in as I plan to work on it during 2021. Just a heads up to everyone... Destroyeraa is working on Beryl and I am doing Leslie right now. I started on Gordon this past summer and plan to finish it in 2021. NoahTalk 22:14, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- Beryl and Chris both up to GA. L&D2K and I will work on Florence, Noah will handle the rest? ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 03:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I will get Leslie and Gordon done. NoahTalk 21:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Beryl and Chris both up to GA. L&D2K and I will work on Florence, Noah will handle the rest? ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 03:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I added this topic here as I know you plan to work on it some during the next year as time permits. I believe you said only Titli needed to be created? NoahTalk 22:14, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- Titli created by Nioni1234 and me. I’ll try to work on it when I have time. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 18:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Adding Phethai as DachshundLover82 wanted it. MarioJump83! 12:39, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Luckily, Titli was improved to start. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:33, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- If we need a timeline, I'm willing to work on one. JavaHurricane 11:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Luckily, Titli was improved to start. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:33, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I'm thinking that a featured topic could be done here. I don't think it would be insanely difficult to get. NoahTalk 15:27, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- The tricky part would be the 4th FA. The timeline would be 2nd, and I suppose Fakir would be a good one to take eventually, so then perhaps the season article? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:29, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Most of what's left for the season article is met histories and the season summary. I was thinking Dumazile could be a potential choice for a FAC. NoahTalk 16:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Added in the WPAC topic that KN has been working hard on. Prapiroon and Barijat may also be article worthy and should be checked out. NoahTalk 22:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- I am going to check Prapiroon and Barijat. I'm going to create these articles first, but if I can't find any more Prapiroon and Barijat information, they'll be merged back into the season article. MarioJump83! 06:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Drop argument mess in Template:Infobox tropical cyclone current
{{Infobox tropical cyclone current}} currently takes two positional parameters, which are used to feed into the {{coord}} template of the infobox. This is (incredibly) clunky and is the main reason why we've been using a <!--comments-->
between the |lat=
and |lon=
parameters. I think it's about time that we scrap those two and move on to simply feeding in positive/negative coordinates: something that {{coord}} has supported since 2008. I was planning to boldly make the change myself, but I'd rather ask here first and take comments before doing so.
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Wikitext | Output | Wikitext | Output |
|lat=15.2|N|lon=143.1|W |
15°12′N 143°06′W / 15.2°N 143.1°W | |lat=15.2 |lon=-143.1 |
15°12′N 143°06′W / 15.2°N 143.1°W |
|lat=15.2|N<!-- -->|lon=143.1|W |
Indication of support or approval is appreciated. Chlod (say hi!) 03:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Changes applied.
|1=
and|2=
are now deprecated. See the talk page for additional information and the documentation for new usage instructions. Chlod (say hi!) 07:49, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather § RfC: Changing the color scheme for storm colors to make it more accessible
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather § RfC: Changing the color scheme for storm colors to make it more accessible. Chlod (say hi!) 02:57, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Another WP:URFA/2020 reminder
As the 2020 FA sweeps advance, there remain a considerable number of 2006 WP Cyclone FAs from 2004–2006 that have not been evaluated in terms of whether they still meet FA standards or need to be submitted for review. If Project members could evaluate these, and enter commentary on article talk (or mark "Satisfactory" at WP:URFA/2020), that would help get the ball rolling towards either marking these articles as "Satisfactory" or sending them to FAR.
- Hurricane Iniki
- Hurricane Gloria
- Hurricane Claudette (2003)
- Hurricane Nora (1997)
- Hurricane John (1994)
- Tropical Storm Allison
- Hurricane Irene (1999)
- Hurricane Esther
- 1933 Atlantic hurricane season
- Hurricane Gustav (2002)
- Hurricane Fabian
- Hurricane Edith (1971)
- Tropical Storm Bill (2003)
- Tropical Storm Bonnie (2004)
- Tropical Storm Henri (2003)
- 1995 Pacific hurricane season
- Hurricane Erika (2003)
- Tropical Storm Edouard (2002)
This list comprises a substantial proportion of the older FAs that need review; help from this Project in either marking them "Satisfactory", or entering notes of improvement needed on article talk under a section heading == [[WP:URFA/2020]] == would be most appreciated. If you could each do one a week, we might get these resolved! Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Project-Class Pacific hurricane articles
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- Project-Class Pacific typhoon articles
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