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Cobra Maneuver Edit Revision

Hello, your reasoning for reverting my edit makes no sense, as long as it is a source that shows proof, it doesn't matter regardless of website. If a GIF that shows proof of the Saab 35 doing the maneuver, then a link to a YouTube video is also equally as much as a source as well. Along with being a Source for proof of the F-16 VISTA doing the maneuver also a YouTube link that you didn't delete. Duderocks5539 (talk) 03:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Duderocks5539: Does the source say this is the maneuver? Magnolia677 (talk) 10:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: If you bothered to even click the links and watch the videos and look at the title, that should answer your question. Yes, it says and shows the maneuver being done. Duderocks5539 (talk) 18:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Duderocks5539: What is the name of the source cited? Was the video filmed by a reliable source, or by some guy who knows a lot about airplanes and then uploaded their video after going to an airshow? Magnolia677 (talk) 19:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: The source is YouTube, it is a reliable source. And it doesn't matter even if it was filmed by a professional or consumer, as long as it shows video evidence that is in real life, of which both videos do, it counts as a source. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize and figure all this out...Duderocks5539 (talk) 19:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Duderocks5539: It is for this very reason that a consensus of editors have agreed that YouTube videos like the one we are discussing are generally unreliable as sources for Wikipedia content, per WP:RSPYT. Some guy who really knows a lot about airplanes goes to an airshow and records some plane doing some maneuver, and the guy filming says, "oh that's an F-46 doing the Kamasutra maneuver", so they upload it to YouTube, where some other person watches it and uses it as a source for Wikipedia. Know what happens to Wikipedia if this happens enough? People won't be able to trust Wikipedia, because all the stuff on it is sourced by "some guy". Please take a moment to see what I mean. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: From what I can see, you are just blind. That " some airplane" in both videos is clearly distinguishable and identifiable as an F-22, and "some maneuver" is also clearly a cobra. The source of the F-16 VISTA doing the maneuver is from YouTube and you didn't roll back that edit, how is 2 separate videos also on YouTube of an F-22 clearly doing the maneuver not "evidence" or a "source" whereas the F-16 VISTA video also on YouTube a reliable "source" of reference then? Please, what is your definition of a "source" then? I'm not reading the page you referenced to because I want to hear your definition of a "credible source", How is a GIF of a Saab 35 doing the maneuver a more credible source? Your logic does not hold any weight, people like you shouldn't be editing a rolling back others edits' then... Duderocks5539 (talk) 05:37, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Verifiability Policy

Hi @Magnolia677:, I am new to Wikipedia and would love to improve my edits and contributions. You removed parts of my edit due to the verifiability policy. I am unsure what parts of the contribution were not verifiable. The sources are in Dutch as the University of Groningen is a Dutch institution and finding comparable sources in English is nearly impossible. Could you point me to where I went wrong so I can improve and add some value?

Thank you in advance! (JoshStev (talk) 01:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC))

@JoshStev: You added text plus a source to support your text. When I looked at the source, it did not support your text, so I deleted your edits. Please see WP:CITEWEB: "Please link to the URL of the specific web page where the referenced content can be found". Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

I would also like you to stop deleting my factual posts. If you find them in question, please look them up to verify. Thanks.

@Magnolia677 Each of my sources are factual. Please do not remove information based on your own conservative values. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pensadora956 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC) I agree with this poster. @Magnolia677 removes content without performing their due diligence to make sure that deletions are justified. I am new to this community but this individual would be a first I would flag for unconstructive contributions if this pattern of behaviour continues.

Allen Texas Election History Edit Reversion

Hi. You reverted an edit I made to the page of the city of Allen Texas, citing that the edit had "unsourced content" and a "dead link;" however, I could not find any dead links in any part of my edit that you reverted. I followed the same citation conventions for city election results that pages for cities like Dallas, Richardson, and Plano use in simply linking to County election result archive pages. All of the data I used to calculate the election result totals could be found in the documents available on that page. Did I format my citation incorrectly? I would like more details regarding why my edits were reverted due to the amount of time it took to gather and analyze the information I used for it. OutlawRun (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: You sourced your edit with this link. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Yes I did. The link works perfectly fine for me and takes me to the right place. Was the issue that the citation was a link in and of itself and not formatted like a regular citation? OutlawRun (talk) 22:31, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: The link doesn't work. I tried it on two browsers, and an anonymous proxy based in the US. All bring back the message: "This page can't be displayed. Contact support for additional information. The Occurance Number is: N/A." Magnolia677 (talk) 23:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: I don't know what is going wrong with the link or why it is not working for you. I went ahead and copied over the citation from Dallas' page onto this one. The links both citations use are exactly the same, but maybe this one will work better because it is formatted in the same way as a page that uses the same citation for the same purpose. OutlawRun (talk) 23:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: Does the link https://www.collincountytx.gov/elections/election_results/Pages/result_archive.aspx work for you? Magnolia677 (talk) 23:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Yes. It does. OutlawRun (talk) 23:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

If you would like, here are some links you can use if you want to verify yourself that my data is legit.

Document with 2020 Election Results in Collin County: https://www.collincountytx.gov/elections/election_results/Archive/2020/11032020/November%203,%202020%20Combined%20Statement%20of%20Votes%20Cast.pdf

My own spreadsheet where I tabulated all of this data together: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jv1w0r8gqlBEYKYaaRz4_w1EEQa0QX14KFgFSXYK8_M/edit?usp=sharing

A precinct map for Collin County where you can verify which precincts are in the City of Allen: https://gis.collincountytx.gov/ccmap_mainvp/main.html

I hope these are helpful in resolving this issue. OutlawRun (talk) 23:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: I have left a message at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Website showing as dead. They are a wonderful group of volunteers. Perhaps someone there can help figure out why the website works for you, but brings back errors for me. Thank you for your forbearance. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Longview, TX Revision

Thanks for monitoring the Longview, TX page so closely. It's a big help.

I undid your revision removing the listing of directors. It's totally a judgement call, but without that information the entire section is lacking.

Thanks again. Your edits make the City of Longview's presence on Wikipedia better!

Icewolf1990 (talk) 20:13, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Icewolf1990: A consensus of editors at WP:USCITIES#Government have agreed that the level of detail you added is unnecessary. Please discuss on the article's talk page before reverting again. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Quincy University

I went back to the list at Quincy University and should have added back the dates (after having ENSURED that the source is fully verifiable WITHIN the LEAD of the article being pulled from). Please take another look if you'd like. Also, I didn't notice a prior edit from you on Quincy University, what brought you to that page? Thanks for the feedback regardless, I am getting the hang of this whole process you were asking for finally, it may add several steps, but I think it is best in the end... ♥Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk)♥ 23:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Ski Cross Image Deletion

Hi. You deleted an image from the page Ski Cross mentioning that it has no improvements. I have got that picture from a member already working with their team. Kindly undelete that picture. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt Pascal (talk • contribs) 18:20, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Matt Pascal: Two editors, myself and User:Ohnoitsjamie, have deleted your photos. Please take a moment to read MOS:IMAGES. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

--Matt Pascal (talk) 11:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC) Appreciated. I just want to know if it was the picture quality issue or any other reason. Kindly help. --Matt Pascal (talk) 11:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

@Matt Pascal: I did not see how the image improved the article, per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Basically that image showed ski cross racers in front of their club house. The image seemed relevant to the page and one of the key racers of that group sent me that image to upload it on that page. Is there any possibility that you can re upload that image?Matt Pascal (talk) 13:05, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Your licensing claim for that photo was dubious at best. It's clearly a scan from a magazine or print, yet you claim it as your own work. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 13:37, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Edit

I'm new to using Wikipedia, I'm not sure how to directly message, but I was hoping to discuss what I did wrong with my citations on my owyhee county addition. Billy the kid12 (talk) 18:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Billy the kid12: Thank you for writing. You made a long edit, and then added your sources in the edit summary, but they should have been added to the body of the text. I left a message on your talk page with a link which will help you. If you get stuck let me know. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:40, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Owyhee county

I watched a YouTube video and I think I added the citations correctly this time, does it look good now? Billy the kid12 (talk) 18:43, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Billy the kid12: Thanks for adding that. It passes the test for a reference, but it could be a bit more detailed. Have a look at the link I left you. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 21:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Just wanted to bring this to your attention..

I just wanted to bring [1] this to your attention. Wasn't sure if it was appropriate for this user to take your warranted warnings off his talk page, especially since they clearly have a problem being civil, looking through their edit summary. Spf121188 (talk) 20:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Spf121188: Thanks for that. They can remove the warning if they like (it means they read it). Cheers!

Fair enough! Just wanted to make sure :) Happy editing and cheers! Spf121188 (talk) 21:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Spf121188: It's all in WP:UP#CMT. Whenever I message an editor about a problem, I always check their talk page history first to see what's been deleted. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:25, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

FYI

Hi Magnolia,

I just wanted to make you aware of this appeal. I've also included a request for a 1-way IBAN in the event the user is unblocked. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:06, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: Thanks for the info. I still have their talk page on my watchlist, and have been keeping an eye on recent events. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 12:20, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: Are my pings turned off? Do you know how I can turn them back on? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 12:22, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I took that judgement because Nick said they were switched off during that discussion, I may be wrong!. Let's test - if @Magnolia677: works, you should have multiple notifications appear when I write on your talk page Nosebagbear (talk) 12:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: Just one notification. I'll dig around in my preferences and see if I turned them off. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 12:29, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I love all animal, but cat is one of my favorite

Robert Mac Denise (talk) 18:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy new year!

	Have a happy New Year filled with light and magic!
	Hi Magnolia677, Best wishes that the new year brings peace, prosperity, health and happiness. Thank you for everything you do for the encyclopedia and this community. Image: New Year's Eve Foxfires at the Changing Tree, Oji, Utagawa Hiroshige, woodcut, 1857 Netherzone (talk) 00:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Netherzone (talk) 00:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

@Netherzone: Thank you very much. All the best for a great 2022! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:30, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Deleting information about school

Hello, I have written about a district program that is at the prince of wales secondary school. I have read the guidelines and there is no promotional material. It is the most highly sought after program in the school district and should not be effectively erased from Wikipedia. The program is at risk of being taken away and having it repeatedly removed from Wikipedia is not making the situation any better. Why should the existence of such a program be removed from Wikipedia? The same standards are not being applied to the rest of the article. Gratefulsloth (talk) 18:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Gratefulsloth: You added a paragraph about a district-wide program called "Prince of Wales Mini School", which is located inside Prince of Wales Secondary School. The only source you cited was the school website. I went looking online for a secondary source to support the notability (not existence) of "Prince of Wales Mini School", and found nothing. A consensus of editors who created WP:WPSCH/AG frown upon relying on school websites to support edits, and while WP:PRIMARY does not forbid the use of primary sources, you have done so to support text for a non-notable program. This makes your edit promotional. Please find a reliable secondary source to support your edit. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Please have the same standards for the rest of the programs offered on the page- every other program cites only the school website. I would consider a program such as the Mini School with 140 students more notable than the program with 8 students (GOLD, on the same page, left untouched by you). Nevertheless, I have added multiple sources. Gratefulsloth (talk) 23:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Nina Hartley is very notable for her feminism. She published several articles, spoke at universities and is a founding member for a feminist porn foundation. The fact that you can't wrap your head around that or are willing to do research your self is your own issue but not that of the worlds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.183.232.66 (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Henderson

I'm new so I don't know alot about this but Indians should probably be changed to native americans to avoid confusion, how should links be done for refrence and is the flag not good?AidenCasteel (talk) 01:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Dermot Seymour, List of Northern Irish artists

Hi. Can you please explain the reasoning for removing this artist from the NI list when he is clearly notable? Suburbanabstrakt (talk) 14:53, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Suburbanabstrakt: My edit summary was clear as a mud-free river. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello again. Indeed it was. Very clearly you are mistaken in this instance: "Not Notable" -Aosdana is the premier cultural institution in Ireland, the elite of the elite if you like. Inclusion is from election by one's peers only, and membership is strictly limited to 250 members. RUA is one the leading artist organisations in Ireland, of which Seymour has also been elected to it's second tier through a rigorous election and election process. Seymour has shown internationally virtually every year since 1981 in New York, Berlin and Ireland. Highly notable. "Wikipedia article was deleted" -the Wikipedia article was deleted due to plagiarism, not on grounds of notability. Amen. Suburbanabstrakt (talk) 17:36, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Suburbanabstrakt: I challenge that this person meets WP:ARTIST. Please seek consensus on talk page. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Venice, FL

Hello ! I saw that you reverted my edit for Venice, Florida where I added more detail about the Higel family. They were one of the earliest pioneers to the area. I believe adding more details about their lives and what they did in Venice contributes to that history and helps provide some context for who settled the area. Can you explain why you think it's out of scope for the article? Thanks! Amscheip (talk) 18:58, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Amscheip: Hi, you wrote:

"In 1892, Frank Higel killed himself during a domestic dispute, but his family remained in Florida. The 1897 Manatee County directory listed only 16 residents in the Venice area, including at least half of Frank's children. Frank Jr. became a school teacher in Venice while Ralph and George remained to work the family's farm. George also became the Venice correspondent for the Sarasota Times, using the pen-name "Nemo" after his father's schooner."

What's this got to do with an article about a city in Florida? None of these people are notable. How does this fit with WP:USCITIES and WP:BALASP? Magnolia677 (talk) 19:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: I understand that by most standards they aren't famous, but they are notable for being early pioneers. And they were notable enough to have their lives recorded by a county government historical report. Most towns are founded by non-notable people. It fits with WP:USCITIES because it is a "Brief note about historical roots/founding." As far as WP:BALASP is concerned, a description of the family is part of describing the town's history. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any local history that doesn't cover the lives of otherwise non-notable people. Would it help if I added even more description to give some weight as to how Higel and his family impacted the town? They bought and developed several dozen acres of land (a lot for a small town like Venice) and Frank helped get a post office established. I am trying to work in good faith here but I also think that removing facts about the area's early history doesn't help anyone. Amscheip (talk) 19:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Amscheip: You are welcome to revert. I'll start a discussion on the talk page. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Denton County Overzealous Deletions and Assertions of Ownership

I went through and added sources to the notable people that you repeatedly deleted that I had added. I also used your standards to delete other unsourced "notable people" for Denton County -- some of which like Gordon McClendon, Sly Stone and Texas Watson I had added personally under another name in the past -- as they did not meet your standards but had somehow escaped your watchful eye. I would recommend their restoration of course. I was born and raised in Denton and am baffled by your selective and un-constructive deletion efforts which are arbitrary (as I demonstrate) and lack due diligence (which I also demonstrate). I appreciate the dedication of volunteers who add information and hope you can be a more constructive member of this community in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XhainXpert (talk • contribs) 20:31, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I have made citations requested. Please review the definition of Overzealous Deletion WP:OVERZEALOUS, specifically WP:POORLY which is called an "invalid reason to delete". Let me cite in its entirety here for your benefit:

  "Many newbies will write often short articles that show poor grammar, text, and overall writing and wiki skills. Even the initial creation of a page from a veteran editor (following additional 
  edits to improve it) may not have the tidiest appearance. This does not mean the subject is not worthy of an article.

   Articles about subjects that are probably notable, are poorly written, or even those that lack references (unless they are biographies) can be tagged to let others know of the deficiency. This    
   will let others who read the pages in the future know of these problems and potentially be able to fix them."

Also please look at the subcategories for "asserting ownership" of a page and threatening "no edit orders contrary to policy" as forms of WP:BULLY. The Denton, County page and other pages about North Texas are open for everyone to edit.

Struggles with Valid Reason for Deletion Policy

You seem continue to be struggling with the "invalid reason for deletion" policy. I have made a good faith effort to address your concerns. I am delighted to see that you have stopped your repeatedly deleting the additions I made to the Denton County. Unfortunately, you continue to do so under the Shady Shores entry. As mentioned in the restoration on the Shady Shores page, an appropriate course of action would be to flag "citation needed" and mention it on my page. I would again refer you to the "Overzealous Deletion" and sub-definitions on "asserting ownership" under Wikipedia's Bullying Policy above. A review of these policies could help you to de-escalate. I wish you the best of luck in your further Wiki endeavours.

Deletions in Town of Caledon page section about culture.

I am knowledgeable about culture in the Town of Caledon, being a long-time volunteer board member of the non-profit organization Headwaters Arts (HA) and co-founder of the Alton Mill Arts Centre (AMAC). I added some additional information about culture in the Town of Caledon, Ontario, Canada, including about HA and the AMAC, properly referenced to reputable websites. You deleted some of my additions and most of what had been posted by previous editors, with the note "trim promo". But curiously you didn't delete references to HA or AMAC altogether (as you shouldn't as they are the principal cultural agencies in the Town). What you did trim was not promotional and your change turned a factual statement into an incorrect one. Specifically, Caledon is part of the Region of Peel. The Town of Caledon has a dearth of directly municipally-owned cultural facilities (aside from its libraries) but its records are held in, and stories told by the the Regionally-run, Peel Art Gallery Museum and Archives(PAMA), which happens to be located in the abutting municipality of Brampton (also part of Peel Region). So the previous editor had rightly said Caledon's records are held and stories told by PAMA in neighbouring Brampton. Your edit now incorrectly states that PAMA is an art gallery in Caledon, which it isn't and eliminated the context. I had also added that PAMA curated an exhibit about the industrial heritage of Alton (a village in Caledon) at the AMAC, which is true and was footnoted back to the PAMA website. Jordan (talk) 00:03, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jordan Grant: You are in a conflict of interest, adding promo material to articles about organizations you are associated with. I will leave more information on your talk page. Please note that Wikipedia is not your Facebook page. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I understand. I have expanded the section to include more cultural facilities and make it more accurate and more complete. I did refrain from restoring the reference to who collaborated to create the Alton Mill Arts Centre, as that is the only thing that I could think of that might have led to your comment about "promo". If there is anything else you think is promotional or inappropriate, please edit more judiciously or better yet, reply to this comment with your specific objections and I will make the edit.

I see your comment on my talk page. I'm fairly new to the back end. Is there another method for me to "reply"? I am not being paid. I am doing this as a volunteer. I did disclose my relationship to Headwaters Arts and the Alton Mill on my user page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordan Grant (talk • contribs) 01:17, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Why did you delete all the article's information? Also I thought I added an article to Chaedria Labouvier https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/06/157304/aunt-raising-kids-mothers-against-police-violence — Preceding unsigned comment added by DustyLosAngeles (talk • contribs) 18:06, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

@DustyLosAngeles: Which article? Magnolia677 (talk) 14:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Edit warring warning

I'm sure you know leaving an edit summary like "Please seek a consensus to remove this on the talk page, and stop edit warring." as you continue your edit war is grounds for an WP:EW block. If you didn't, you do now. Toddst1 (talk) 23:42, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

@Toddst1: I guess this user hasn't really learned: They're currently edit warring with me instead of individually removing content they disagree with, then threatening me with a block. Seems hypocritical. SilentRevisions (talk) 13:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Centreville, Mississippi Notable people

If you look at the source I cited:

http://www.nasonline.org/publications/biographical-memoirs/memoir-pdfs/thurstone-louis.pdf

You'll see that page 3 of the sources says that Louis Leon Thurstone was educated in Centreville, Mississippi. 216.14.157.170 (talk) 20:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

I missed that. Still, going to school someplace doesn't make you notable there, per WP:USCITIES#Notable people. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Haverhill, Massachusetts Revision

Thank you very much for reverting the work I made to Haverhill, Massachusetts. I also applaud you for leaving crap on my talk page stating i was adding uncited information when I was literally only moving around the information already provided in the article. The article is a complete mess, is never touched, and has the worst grammar one can read, however when one idiot (me) decides to waste 2 hours to try and fix it, I am slapped with a revision deleting all of my work. Thanks but no thanks. SilentRevisions (talk) 23:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@SilentRevisions: I didn't caution you about unsourced content; I cautioned you about making test edits. Why did you add so much bolding to this edit? What's Wikipedia's policy about bolding? Also, you wrote that the Riverside" area has "residential developments, Holy Family Hospital, Trinity Stadium, and the Riverside Plaza Shopping Center". Really? How do you know? Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with editing, and feel free to add your information back when it is corrected and sourced. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:20, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Well I guess the bolding can be removed, I just thought it looked better, however the other edits I wrote about the Riverside area are because I literally live in this city. SilentRevisions (talk)

@SilentRevisions: Thank you for responding. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not accept original research. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:31, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Thank you for responding. Unfortunately, you just reverted all of the edits I made last night, which included sourced content from the Eagle Tribune, an official news source in Massachusetts. Due to this, I will be reverting the version of the article to it's previous state. If you do not agree with "Original research" please remove that individually, rather than simply deleting all of the edits I have made. Continuously removing my edits is bullying and also Edit warring. Thanks. SilentRevisions (talk) 13:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Cary, North Carolina

Can we talk? You just reverted about 5 hours of my work because you say that I used a blog as a source. I have a masters in library science and a masters in history. I assure you that I did not use a blog. What I did was correct factual errors, found and added citations to unsourced statements, and added a significant amount of content to the history section-all new content was correctly cited using a UNC Press book, a variety of newspaper articles. NCpedia (published by the NC History Museum), an article from the Cary Heritage Museum, etc. I also used CaryFood which is NOT a blog. It is part of CaryCitizen.news which is the enewspaper/ezine that was established with the print newspaper Cary News went out of business. This is an actual e-newspaper with editors and sales/ad staff. If you are truly against that source, I will find another--but please do not remove hours of work, including the bulk of information that has no relationship to FoodCary. Thanks for your consideration. Rublamb (talk) 21:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: This source is written by a group of local volunteers. One of the strengths of Wikipedia is that it insists on reliable sources. Please take a moment to read Help:Referencing for beginners. Also, it is very difficult for other editors to tease out poorly sourced text from a very large edit. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:01, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: Please add back your text that was reliably sourced. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:33, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: This source is credible as it is from a history museum: The Cary Cultural Center and the Page Walker Arts & History Center. I understand that it can be confusing when a corporation is DBA something other than their legal name (Friends of the Page Walker) and then uses the legal name on their website. However, this organization has published several (and the only current) books on the history of Cary. They conduct research and create the museum's exhibits. They conducted oral history interviews that are now part of the collection of Wilson Library at UNC Chapel Hill. They provide guided history tours of Cary and work with teachers. This info is all from their website. I also learned from articles in the News and Observer newspaper that this group has involved scholars, librarians, and researchers from the beginning. Why do I know all of this--because I researched the credibility of this source before I used it. Furthermore, whether or not a author is a volunteer or paid is not the sole determining factor in its credibility, as we must also consider the publisher and the quality of the writing itself. When I was the director of an nonprofit historical society with a staff of two, we had a PhD in history write a book for us to publish as a fundraiser. He wasn't paid. We weren't big and did business as the museum, rather than our legal name. Yet, I think you would agree the resulting book was credible. And, remember, you too are just a volunteer.

I know I added a lot of content, but the guidelines are to discuss rather than delete, unless the content is vandalism or defaming or the like. Even if this source was sketchy, we both know it was over the top for you to remove all edits rather than the one associated with the citation you didn't like. Such aggressive deletion is also against Wikipedia's guidelines--and we have already agreed that you initially deleted the totality of my content in error because you thought a source was a blog. The bottom line is that it is much easier for you to simply undo your delete than for me to reinsert all of that content. I again respectfully ask that you reverse your deletion. I am totally willing to revisit where I use the citation you dislike to see if it can be replaced or removed entirely. I stand by it, but know there are many other sources out there, including something you will agree to. Oh, and am I a beginner? I started in 2016, just never set up my user page until recently.... Rublamb (talk) 02:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: My apology for judging this source unreliable. Although user generated, it passes the threshold for reliability. Please add your edit back. Sorry for the confusion. Magnolia677 (talk)

10:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Magnolia677 As you have seen, I am trying to rebuild the intro for Cary. The other day, I took updated population stats and took out a dated fact since I couldn't fine an update. Then the other person moved stuff and cut until it was too basic. Happy to have your help as it is difficult to know where to start==and I know you have more experience with city pages. I was trying to follow the guidelines. You probably saw that I moved the metro area back to the top with a source. (maybe the other person will leave it there now that there is a source?) I am afraid someone will cut my history in the intro thinking it doesn't belong there. We shall see. Also wanted to let you know that I am fine with your edits to my text. I much prefer an edit or a note that a citation is needed than a delete. So thanks for that approach! A few FYI items. 1) Cary does touch RTP--looks like this is why they annexed into Chatham County. See this map [[2]]. 2) With the notable businesses, all I did was add two names (with sources and updates to their Wikipedia pages) and turn the list into a paragraph with some text edits. I thought it looked weird having two lists with different formats in the same sections. I actually like it without the corporate descriptions. That was a great edit on your part==I wasn't gusty enough to cut that that existing text. Also, I did not check the existing companies, again trusting the prior content provider. Apparently the companies you removed were fine until I made an edit to that section? Or maybe you had not looked at that section. Hope it was the latter. LOL. I will see if there is anything in the newspapers and update articles if it makes sense. 3) I figured someone would hate a public art list. The list looked awful, so I tried an table. It looked awful too. So I get it, just talk to me first, please. Rublamb (talk) 13:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: My map didn't show the research park next to the city, but your map is probably more accurate. A good resource is WP:USCITIES. I only have a few more layout edits. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:30, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: I am so confused by your post on my page. You indicate that I am removing your sourced text. I have not removed anything. All I have done is reedit the text that I wrote with the sources that I added. On the other hand, you have removed a bunch of sourced text that lots of people worked on. You want me to respect the edits you make to my text, but seem to lack that same respect for others. Maybe because you have gotten into the groove of editing rather than creating content, you forget how much time and effort is put into finding sources and writing text. But from my perspective, I am the content creator who work is being edited by you, not the other way around. If you want to talk or seek arbitration, I am willing. There has to be better way.... Thanks, Rublamb (talk) 04:21, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677:I am adding the section on the Green Level Historic District back as, this area in in Cary as can clearly been seen in the maps provided here [[3]] and on the the town website here [[4]]. You must be looking at sources that are really old.Rublamb (talk) 12:13, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Ohio Sanborn maps

Hello Magnolia 677. As requested, I have added my affiliation to my user account (Higher ed- we are not profiting off add our Wikimedia images to the articles). Please advise if you have suggestions for adding the Sanborns into the town/city pages. These historical maps are fantastic resources for people doing research on historical home renovation, architecture, geography, public history and genealogy. I am a digital librarian hoping to connect our open access free digital collections to interested researchers. We went through a lot of work last year to have this digital collection harvested into the digital public library of America (DPLA), who then in turn pushed our out of copyright images into Wikimedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdressle (talk • contribs) 22:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Vdressle: I am glad you are adding these maps to the Commons, where they are a valuable addition. My concern is when you spam them to multiple Wikipedia articles, where they are of little benefit. I believe you are a paid editor, so I would caution you again not to continue adding these maps. Thanks for your understating. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I am adding these on my own time (outside my regular job) and am not getting compensated for adding these. Just hoping these will be of interest or value to these communities. I tend work on these in small stretches of time as I am available. I do not personally benefit from this- just simply hoping to make these maps more discoverable and findable. Vdressle (talk) 23:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

City pronunciations

Hi Magnolia677. Hope things are going well. I have a question for you: I recently created an article called Sipe Springs, Comanche County, Texas. I want to add a pronunciation tag to it because in the History section of the article, you can see that it is pronounced as "seep". The sentence "It was named for the nearby springs that appeared to "seep" out of rock formations" can give you an idea. I want to do what was done in articles such as Gnadenhutten, Ohio and Delhi, Texas regarding the pronunciation, if you know what I am talking about. How do I go about doing that? Or should I not add it since it is already mentioned in the article? Thank you for reading, and I hope to get a response from you soon. Colman2000 (talk) 06:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Colman2000: I often see pronunciations added to the first sentence, but I'm not familiar with how to create them. I know there are a few editors who are very good with these. Try WP:HD. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:34, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! I actually don't need to do that anymore, as I looked at the article of Serbia for help. How does my article of Sipe Springs look now? Colman2000 (talk) 16:48, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Citrus Heights, California

I noticed you had reverted an edit from a former IP address in regards to the controversy section. I know WP is not a news section but it is notable due to the amount of reports done on the news for this area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stones_Gambling_Hall_Cheating_Scandal_(aka_Postlegate)

If there is a way it can be added to the section let me know. 2601:642:4400:9F00:147E:6065:D29:A6AC (talk) 02:54, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@2601:642:4400:9F00:147E:6065:D29:A6AC: Thanks for writing. I added it to the "see also" section. You may want to add a sentence-long description so readers know what the link is about. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Removing sourced content

Please do not remove cited content without a WP policy-backed reason, as you did on Cate Blanchet. You searched up one word on the article and indiscriminately removed all mention of it, despite it being cited. WP:VERIFY. Lapadite (talk) 06:40, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Lapadite: Thank you for writing. The content was over-the-top puffery. Do you feel it improved the article? Magnolia677 (talk) 08:53, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Replying on the talk page. --Lapadite (talk) 21:25, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Removing sourced content

Regarding A-ha discography. Source added. Now, let it be ! Mortyman (talk) 00:32, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

February 2022 - Lake Kenosia

Hello. Although the plaque may not be considered a reputable source, the postcard from Western Connecticut State University's Digital Archives does serve as historical evidence that "Kenosha" was an alternative spelling for the lake. With that said, when looking at the Wiktionary page for "Kenosha," it is defined as "pike" / "pickerel" in two Indigenous languages. This definition matches the plaque that was cited exactly. It is my belief that including the etymology would be very beneficial for the article. How many additional sources will be needed to serve as evidence of the alternative spelling "Kenosha" for that detail to be reverted back? Thank you. CLJ (talk). — Preceding undated comment added 23:37, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

@CityLimitsJunction: Thank you for writing. I removed the information from the plaque because it does not appear a reliable source. One part of the plaque actually mentions the specific source it used, James M. Bailey. But for the origins of Lake Kenosia, the plaque gives a vague "said to originate from a Native American word meaning pike or pickerel". Said by who? Wiktionary is also not a reliable source, per WP:CIRC. This article gives a detailed history of the region, but says nothing of the lake's Native American name. I have also been unable to find any source to support what is written on the plaque. For these reasons, I am reluctant to add something with such vague sourcing. You are welcome to start a discussion on the talk page. Other editors may have a source to support your edit.

As for the lake's variant names, there is no need to find additional sources; the origin source you added to the article already list them. My question is, why do you want to list all the variant names? I added "Mill Plain Pond" because there was some unique history to that name. All the others look like typos along the way. If you look at various lakes listed in GNIS, some of them have 10 or more variant names, though rarely are all the typos and non-notable variants listed in the Wikipedia article about the lake. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Stop Asian Hate

I'm not sure if you're editing because of Steven Crowder's nonsense but your edits are SYNTH at best. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:03, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Let me correct my edit summary: the data are from NCVS, not NIBRS. In NCVS the unknown is about 1 out of 10 and all race categories of offenders are based on the perception of the victim. NCVS is a self-report survey with a nationally representative (weighted) sample. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Thank you for writing. Yesterday I read an article about the increase in violent crime against Asians. This led me to seek out reliable information about these terrible crimes, and after about one minute of searching I came across a summary of criminal victimization data, published annually by the US Department of Justice. On page 13, Table 14, you will find the data I added to three articles about crimes against Asian Americans. It seemed relevant to each article to include reliable data about the number of violent offenses committed against Asian Americans, as well as information about the offenders. It would be difficult to find a more neutral and reliable source.

You reverted one of my edits with the edit summary "rubbish", and now you claim that DOJ data--obtained from a single table--is a "synth". Moreover, you have inferred that I was inspired by a podcaster I've never watched or even heard of, whose Wikipedia article describes him as a "conservative political commentator" with a history of "racist and homophobic slurs". I'm not sure if this is all some sort of intimidation tactic, but your response to my good faith edits is both upsetting and unwelcome. May I ask you to please strike out your reference above to Steven Crowder? Please also take a moment to read WP:GF. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:38, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

I apologize for the "rubbish" comment as I find myself emotional about this topic and the external campaign by Crowder and his followers to paint a racist narrative around anti-Asian hate crimes (I am not saying you are one of those people). I will strike the comment. I will respond to the substance of the edits on Talk:Stop_Asian_Hate#Bureau_of_Justice_Statistics_Figure. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Mill Plain, Danbury, Connecticut

Hello. Please feel free to make revisions on Draft:Mill Plain, Danbury, Connecticut to prepare it for the mainspace. Thank you. CLJ (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@CityLimitsJunction: Thanks for asking. I made a few copyedits, but a few others I'll leave with you:

• The link to Mill Plain (disambiguation) is red.
• Neither of the external links are necessary.
• I would keep two images at the most, per WP:IG.
• Get rid of the infobox flag.
• Is it a district, village, hamlet, or unincorporated area? Pick one and stick to it. If it's an unincorporated area, these are typically called "unicorporated communities" on US city articles, and you can also call them "the settlement" and "the community" to add some variety. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 19:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Refference on Qa Qc removed

Hai Magnolia677, I added a reference blog to the qa qc section for it to be more informative. My blog covers a lot of areas and I thought it would be very informative! Would love to see that reference being kept back. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nifan Nifu (talk • contribs) 11:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Re: March 2022

Hello Magnolia677. I am replying to your message to confirm that I am not receiving any compensation for my edits and am only adding the edits to update relevant information regarding the article. Anonymouse2021 (talk) 19:09, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Chicago Fire Department, and others

The same person who has been blocked with the other ip address that he was using is back and at it again. I'm no angel but this guy is doing disruptive editing. Wugapodes and Oshwah were of help last time I contacted them and they had him blocked. Doriden (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: Thanks for that. I'll have a look tomorrow. Feel free to report them to WP:AIV if they cross the line. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Chicago Fire Department and others

Forgot to sign it. Sorry Doriden (talk) 00:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: That IP and others have since been blocked. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Sir Doriden (talk) 09:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

However, the one up address 172.58.172.231 is only blocked for 31 hours. Thanks again, Doriden (talk) 09:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: I'll keen an eye on it. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks again, the on up address that he was using is blocked for 6 months by Drmies that was 172.58.188.128. However this other ip address 172.58.188.231 is only blocked for 31 hours. Then he will be back doing the same BS again. Another ip address that he was using about 5 or 6 months ago has been blocked for 18 months if I remember correctly. Thanks again, Doriden (talk) 11:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: If you see it continuing, you may want to ask for a range block of this IP address. In the past I have found User:Oshwah very helpful with range blocks. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

OK thanks Doriden (talk) 12:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Moose Jaw

Why did you undo my edit on the Moose Jaw page? Whitebro (talk) 03:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Whitebro: This was your edit. You added three links to the 2011 census, and gave each a different name. You also added population data without adding a source. With so many errors in such a short edit, it looked like a "test edit" by a new editor. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:08, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Suffern, New York

Why did you revert my addition of Peter Daszak as a notable resident of Suffern, New Work. You added a comment 'not notable'. Then why does Peter Daszak have a Wikipedia page? dmode (talk) 07:57, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@Boul22435: Thank you for writing. I removed his name because there was no source supporting that he ever lived in Suffern. Because you didn't leave a source, I looked on his Wikipedia article, and there was no mention there of Suffern. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

A ridiculous cat

Please excuse my erroneous edit, likely a mistaken rollback or revert caused by my fat fingers, hypnagogia, or one of my ridiculous cats. I have likely self reverted or noticed the mistake after you corrected it. Again, my apologies. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:31, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Not a problem! Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 17:14, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

User:CatDog2020

Hi Magnolia677. This editor has responded to your post at c:COM:VPC#New Flickr account and is asking for assistance. Another editor has already them information that helps explains what they need to do, but Commons doesn’t really care about WP:COI and the creating of articles on any of the various Wikipedias. Advising them of such things is probably best done on their Wikipedia user talk page. Since you’ve already posted something, perhaps you should also be the one to explain to them about COI editing and what things are going to be expected of them. If you’re not sure how to do so, then try taking a look at WP:COI#How to handle conflicts of interest. An important thing to remember is that more leeway is usually given to COI editors working in the draft namespace than in the article namespace, and things should be OK as long as they submit drafts via AfC. They should be made aware, however, that the situation does change once a draft is approved and they will then be expected to more closely follow established policies and guidelines. If you already know all of what I’m posting about above, then my apologies for assuming otherwise. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Seems to be a single purpose editor, but I'm not sure they are COI, otherwise they'd be taking their own pictures of Greg Cox. Thanks for your help. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

They posted I have exclusive rights to the photos here I know the photographer and artist im writing about personally at COM:VPC which seems to be admitting a connection to Cox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Indeed. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:14, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Pointers, New Jersey

The article Pointers, New Jersey has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Named intersection, not a notable community: Ref 4 only says "The second commercial district

primarily encompasses land owned by Salem Hospital and around the Pointers

intersection." and Ref 3 says "King's Highway rejoins the route at the Pointers, 26.6 m. The latter name comes from the junction of three old roads pointing here toward Salem." Can't find any newpapers.com sources establishing notability.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Reywas92^Talk 03:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)