User talk:Dcoetzee

Notice: I am currently engaged in a legal dispute with the National Portrait Gallery, London. You can read more about it at Commons:User:Dcoetzee/NPG legal threat.

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• 2007/2/22 – 2009/4/15

Gasp!

Cenophobia compels me to post as soon as possible. :) Actually, good call. You were beginning to load slowly even for me. (Unless that was the intent? ;)) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

:-) I'm ordinarily loathe to archive, but if your comment is at the top it's not so bad. I'll tell you more about why I didn't before and why I did when I see you next. Dcoetzee 00:35, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

C# MUD Help

Hi there. I'm building a new MUD codebase in C# from scratch. The networking, socket and telnet parts are my nightmare. I'd like to ask you for a bit of help. I've seen your reply to a post in a forum where you posted "the simplest MUD". It worked perfectly because that's what I need. I connected to myself using MUSHclient and it worked perfectly. I want to study that small code deeper and I need help clarifying some things up. I can be found as viniciusbmeireles at either hotmail or gmail. Please send me an e-mail when you have the time. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.70.145.113 (talk) 23:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Fibonacci dynamic programming.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Fibonacci dynamic programming.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:37, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Lord Monboddo

Many thanks for your help with the John Kay sketch. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you do magic?

Your wizardy is sought at the gastropod cleanup project. Might you pop by and let us know if what is being requested is within your power? :D --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

There are more specifics now on this at the Gastropod clean-up page. I'm also hoping that you can compile a list for me of the work of User:Footage, who seems to have been a problem for a while. He is currently on a two week block. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:58, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Not wanting to open a new section, I was thinking you might be interested in the proposal for Wikipedia:WikiProject Images and Media. Not sure exactly where it's going, but your being all imagey and everything.... :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. :-) I responded on the Gastropods page. Good to hear from you. Dcoetzee 21:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Uck_kla_logo.svg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Uck_kla_logo.svg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Rettetast (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if I was too curt

• Hi, sorry if I was too curt during conversation at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. I hope I didn't offend you. I certainly didn't intend to insult you. Best of luck Ling.Nut.Public (talk) 02:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Don't worry, I understand you have strong opinions on the subject and I'm glad we had the opportunity to discuss it. :-) Dcoetzee 02:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Me again, with strangeness

I've just cobbed a "press release" notice next to a reference which I added here. I've long thought we could use such a template and also one that says "public domain." I can't tell if we already have one, because quite a few templates are not categorized (these should be under Category:Wikipedia formatting and function templates, I'd guess). For the pd one, I was thinking "Pd-source", but I see that exists as a redirect. I can't see that it's been transcluded anywhere. Can you tell me if Template:Pd-source would be likely to be free for use, assuming that I provide an unincluded hatnote pointing to the template it currently directs to, to help those trying to find it? Conversely, can you tell me if we already have something like this? (I don't know if you have some magic search engine (or prior familiarity) that would let you know. :) I'm not asking you to comb through the land of uncategorized templates, doing my legwork. :D) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I didn't see right away any template like the one you describe, but I can tell you how to search templates efficiently: type something in the search box on the left, hit Search. Then scroll down to "Advanced search" and check only "Template." As for usurping templates, if the creator has lost interest and it's orphaned, be bold. :-) Dcoetzee 20:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm embarrassed to have to go "Oh,yeah" on that one. I had forgotten about "Advanced search." :D

Meanwhile, I've got a new question that sends me hat in hand. :) At my user page, it deals with creating images of cars; it's here. Can you help? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 10:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Could you adopt me?

Hi i'm new to Wikipedia and I was wondering if you could adopt me and help me out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaminski825 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the slow response - I'm afraid I'm pretty busy, but feel free to ask me a question if you ever need help. :-) Dcoetzee 09:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

National Portrait Gallery

I believe you may know the copyright side of images from the National Portrait Gallery (UK), judging by uploads of yours I have come across. Today I'm interested in Nicholas Byfield, as in this page; this wouldn't be the only case. I'm generally busy with creating early-modern articles, and this point is going to come up again. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Charles. Those are all good and clear based on publication date - it needs two tags to be uploaded to Commons: {{PD-Art|PD-UK-unknown}}, which indicates that it's a reproduction of a work that was published in the UK before 1939 and the engraver is unknown, and {{PD-1923}}, which indicates it's public domain in the United States because it was published before 1923. Alternatively, you can simply say {{PD-Art|PD-old-100}}, on the reasonable basis that whoever engraved it, must have been dead for at least 100 years by now. Dcoetzee 09:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Second opinion

Hi. I'd like a second opinion on whether a close paraphrasing situation rises to the level that the article needs to be blanked pending revision or not. I'm sorry, but there's a fair amount of reading involved. :) The situation is at Talk:Stacey Castor. If you are able, can you take a look and weigh in? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Constantly after you. :)

Hi, one of my favorite commons admins. :D We've got yet another massive infringement going at AN (here). They never stop, do they? :/ Anyway, this one may have spilled over onto Commons with the image: File:Bananaplant.jpg. Would you mind evaluating that and figuring out what ought to be done? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

And deleted. :-) I personally consider reputation sufficient cause for deletion in cases like this. Dcoetzee 23:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

RE:Regarding car images

Thank you, and dont worry, I appreciate your work to keep wikipedia in the best shape. and I under stand that, I wanna know if this applies to all cars?? Maen. K. A. (talk) 18:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

As long as its design has a utilitarian practical purpose, yes. When you talk about fictional cars like the Batmobile things might get more complicated. Read the policy I linked you for the full explanation. :-) Dcoetzee 18:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much, you are so helpful :-) Maen. K. A. (talk) 21:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Confirmation

Hi, can you confirm it was you who signed up at The Wikipedia Forum with this username please? Thanks! dottydotdot (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am. :-) Dcoetzee 22:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, activated! dottydotdot (talk) 07:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Code block templates

Discussion about code block templates is being carried out at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 May 5#Template:Code block template. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 02:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Commons image question

Hi. I believe we have an issue with File:Georgia Guidestones.jpg, which is a picture of a sculpture that seems to be under copyright. Probably fair usable, but I don't know about Commons. Can you take a look at the discussion and see what may need to be done, including correcting me if I'm wrong? :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Therapeutic hypothermia

Hey. I just saw you made a pretty significant edit to this article. Would you mind taking a look at the talk page and give your opinion about the Arctic Sun section? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 01:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I am in no position to compare various methods of inducing hypothermia. I just wanted to avoid the heavy front-loaded praise and survival statistics in the intro, and stick with a more neutral definition. I figured discussion and debate over evaluation could go elsewhere. Dcoetzee 07:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Marion Huxley

Many thanks for uploading this wonderful portrait! Macdonald-ross (talk) 05:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Glad to help. :-) The National Portrait Gallery did the hard work of producing the photo. It is a beautiful work. Dcoetzee 05:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:DONTQUOTEPERSONALESSAYSASPOLICY)

Would you consider restoring Wikipedia:DONTQUOTEPERSONALESSAYSASPOLICY, another editor speedied it as an implausable redirect to the essay, but it is the most concise and most used version leading to the essay akin to WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. The deleting person has now left about 30 redlinks in article discussion pages. It is shorter than Wikipedia:Generally it is not a good idea to quote personal essays as if they were Wikipedia approved policy --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 06:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Note: This is already at DRV. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

At first it seemed to have a lot of incoming links, but they really are all created by one user. I re-deleted it and will take no further interest in this, letting DRV sort it out. I also strongly admonish Richard against seeking assistance from admins without giving them complete information about the situation - this sleight of hand diminishes my trust in you. Dcoetzee 06:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

• No sleight of hand at all. The deletion was based on "its too long" and "implausable". Certainly no more implausible than OTHERCRAPEXISTS. And it is very clearly marked as an essay, what secret information was I hiding from you? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 06:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  • The fact that it was up at DRV. It's a bad idea for admins to delete or restore anything when whether that action should be taken is the subject of current community discussion, as it amounts to usurping consensus. Dcoetzee 06:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
• No one has voted on it. I could have just as easily withdrew it from DVR since I posted it and contacted you within a few minutes of each other. There is not a single vote at this point. Just a comment from a guy. If I had asked you to restore it and people had agreed to keep it deleted then that would have been deceptive. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 06:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Lodowicke Muggleton

Many thanks for putting up the 2 pix of Loddo- it really is appreciated by us folks out there in the dark. Also for the note (above on this page) about the NPG in London. I was a bit worried about that.Coxparra (talk) 20:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Glad to help. :-) I'm glad NPG went to the work of producing these reproductions. Dcoetzee 22:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Um, help?

There's a listing I can't evaluate at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 May 9, on Weibull fading. The tagger seems quite certain. The creator is a long-gone SPA. Do you have any access to the suspected sources listed there? I like to be able to verify before deleting an article. If I can't, I will sometimes just rewrite it myself to be on the safe side. That's not an option here. :) And I don't even know which project I should best approach. If you don't have access to the source, do you have an idea how this should best be handled? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 02:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey. :-) Yeah, I do have access to that document, but not at the moment (my company's site account is currently full for some reason). I can get it to you when I have it again. You can read the abstract here. Looking at the article, I seriously doubt it's a copyvio in its entirety - most likely, it's the formulas that are the concern here. It's unfortunate that User:Corfuman is not responding, as they do seem to be a capable English speaker and subject matter expert. Dcoetzee 08:34, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Fabulous! I'll just hold resolution until we can take a look at it. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

FYI I haven't forgotten this, there are some technical issues, I'll get back to you. :-) Dcoetzee 07:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

More help (surprise!)

Can you do your magic here? Please? :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: PD

If you wanted to do that, you'd have to start fresh. ViperSnake151  Talk  02:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I realise it's virtually impossible - and that nobody agrees with me about it. But if I could turn back time I'd see if I could talk Jimbo and friends into it. Dcoetzee 02:54, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

help with NPG images

I read that you uploaded images (paintings by Sir Peter Lely) from the National Portrait Gallery using a "special tool" i was wondering how you do this because im tryng to get a picture of Queen Anne by Michael Dahl (NPG also) pleease help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesusislord65 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

It's no longer possible to obtain high-resolution images from NPG in the manner in which I did. Please e-mail me for further discussion using Special:EmailUser/Dcoetzee. Dcoetzee 10:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Lady Mary Scudamore

Thank you for the image of Lady Mary Scudamore. I have added that to the article on Sir James Scudamore, in addition to a great deal of new material I have found. Golden Hound (talk) 06:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Edward Gibbon

My under-translation Edward Gibbon article (in english wikipedia: Edward Gibbon) Thanks for your edit in my little under-translation (construction) article. I've been away for months and I haven't seen the modify yet. But please, if you edit this (or any else under-construction) article any more, write it on the Article's discussion page. Thanks - √ Dokee ⊄ talk √ 07:45, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry. Dcoetzee 08:05, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Request to participate in University of Washington survey based on ideas gathered during the Wikipedia focus group you attended

Hello again! As we mentioned when you attended our focus group back in April, our goal was to use your feedback to help design an embedded application that could quickly communicate useful information about other Wikipedians. We have now created a few images that we feel represent some of what you thought was important. We would appreciate it if you took a few minutes of your time to complete an online survey that investigates whether or not these images would be useful to you.

To take the survey, click this link.

Please feel free to share the link with other Wikipedians. The more feedback, the better! The survey is completely anonymous and takes less than 10 minutes to complete. All data is used for university research purposes only.

Even if you are unable or unwilling to take this survey, we want to thank you for attending our focus group. Your generous contribution of your time and ideas was greatly appreciated! Commprac01 (talk) 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

hello

I just wanted to say that I am back, and that I am sorry for being so bitter to you in the past. --Oh no! it's Alien joe!(Talk) 21:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, will respond on your talk page. Dcoetzee 21:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Blog copy of Wikipedia

Hey there, in relation to this edit, if you compare the date of the blog post link to the date of the Wikipedia post diff, you can see that the material was on Wiki before it was posted on this blog. Whatever else this text may be, it isn't a copyright violation. Tim Vickers (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

This particular text, yes. This was already noted on the talk page. Dcoetzee 16:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I hadn't noticed, thank you. Tim Vickers (talk) 18:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Admin business, Commons

Hi. :) Can I tap you, please, to look into a copyright matter on Commons? Involved are the contributions there of this fellow. He had an article listed here and indicated that he would place a release on the external site. I can't find it, so I deleted the article with a note. The images are beyond my reach. It's always a bit puzzling to know what to do when the contributor probably is the copyright holder but doesn't follow through with verifying that. :/ Anyway, if you can find a release on the source, [1], that I've missed, we can restore the article Brother Joseph Thamby. I don't know what Commons does with images in this case, but I suspect it's not much different. Deletion debate? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey. :-) I double checked you, and no, no sign of a release statement on the site. However, I've seen no precedent for any such case on Commons, so I'm going to nominate them for deletion and see. Dcoetzee 23:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Nominated at commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/Images_of_Polimetla. Dcoetzee 23:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) I have no idea why the guy didn't follow through. But, then, sometimes people will actually write OTRS from an e-mail clearly associated with the publisher giving us an incomplete permission and then just not respond to our follow-up. That's even more baffling. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Got an e-mail! It may prove to be sufficient for the images, but it isn't sufficient yet. The e-mail address is not visibly associated with the website. The text is not going to be usable unless he can verify that it is PD, since he says he did not author it himself. I assume most of the images are panorama? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, I'm not quite sure what you mean by panorama, but I've noted that you received mail on the deletion page. Several of the photos are of signs or plaques that are not considered a "work of artistic craftsmanship", and as such don't fall under freedom of panorama laws in India. These will have to be deleted regardless. Dcoetzee 23:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know quite what I mean by panorama either. I am parroting the term. :) I guess panorama must be for buildings only? Or does India have no freedom of panorama laws? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 23:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you mean freedom of panorama. :-) India has freedom of panorama for buildings, sculptures, and works of artistic craftsmanship. See Commons:Commons:Freedom of panorama#India and Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#United_Kingdom (India law is based on UK law here), which breaks down the distinction between works of artistic craftsmanship and graphic works. Personally I don't think the signage here qualifies, but the other pictures would. Dcoetzee 23:32, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

←Well, at least the term has some meaning, even if I don't know exactly what it is. :D --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 23:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Music samples

Hi. I noticed you've participated in discussions at the music samples guideline's talk page, and I was wondering if you'd like to weigh in on my proposal regarding sample lengths. Thanks. Timmeh 01:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments on NPG

Congratulations on pissing off the NPG. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.225.23.29 (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Derrick, I would be happy to work at the National Portrait Gallery to capture images for commons if the NPG offers that as an alternative to using their digital images. - Pointillist (talk) 23:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, I will keep that in mind. :-) Dcoetzee 23:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

You're a twat for pissing off the NPG. So Wikipedia kicks up a fuss when people use small images from TV programmes or innocent diagrams and photos from Flickr yet it's fine to nick pictures from a public art gallery. Wikipedia is fucking stupid.--217.203.131.210 (talk) 14:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The images you describe (small images from TV programmes or innocent diagrams and photos from Flickr) are generally protected by copyright in the United States, but some of them may be eligible for use under our non-free content policy, or you may be able to persuade the copyright owner to release them under a free license (see Commons:Commons:OTRS). If there's any particular images you have in mind I may be able to help. Dcoetzee 15:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

You can't nick something that belongs to everyone. Good luck, Derrick. -- Earle [^t/_c] 07:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your support, Earle. :-) Dcoetzee 08:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		As a British citizen, I'm very dismayed that my taxes are being used to fund a lawsuit against an American citizen uploading public-domain images to an American website. I'd rather they go towards fixing the economy, you know? Sceptre (talk) 13:17, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support, Sceptre. Dcoetzee 01:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You, sir, are a genius. Hang in there: it must be a daunting position to find yourself in. I'm exceptionally pleased that you have people working with you towards a good resolution for Wikipedia. What you have done is very important and the outcome even more so. As a British tax payer who has paid into NPG's coffers I am furious that they seek to imprison these works in their own fiefdom. What you have done is completely morally right. If this decision were to go against Wikipedia it would set back public access to the arts by a hundred years or more. In a vast amount of cases there will never be an ultimate substitute for actually visiting a gallery and appreciating a painting in all its natural splendour, so galleries still have a great role to play and people will still have a compelling reason to visit them. But there is also now an unrivalled opportunity for all public domain art to be appreciated by everyone with access to the internet and this greater good must not be trampled on by vested interests. I hope you'll be hailed as a hero one day. The alternative scarcely bears thinking about. --bodnotbod (talk) 03:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think of myself as a genius or a hero, but I still appreciate your support. :-) Dcoetzee 15:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Legal Advice on UK Copyright Position

Hi, here is some legal advice I got here in the UK regarding copyright from a UK Barrister (Senior Lawyer):

"There is no current UK court ruling that says that copyright exists in the photograph of an out of copyright painting. It all depends on whether the person who took the photograph of the painting made an original contribution, if yes, they may be able to claim a copyright in the photograph. If no original contribution, no copyright. Originality has not been defined in the Copyright Designs and Patents Act and is open for the courts to interpret on a case by case basis.

However, there is UK case law which has established that a mechanical photocopy of an original work is not copyrighted (Reject Shop Vs Manners 1995) and in the case of Interlego A.G. vs Tyco Industries (1989), it was held that that a drawing which was a copy of another drawing did not hold its own copyright. ‘Skill labour or judgement merely in the process of copying cannot confer originality’ said the court in this case."

So it would seem that Farrer are bluffing - there is no precedent that supports their position - but there are precedents in your favour... I very much doubt if they or any other UK gallery would want to take a case to court because the chances are they would lose. The only thing stopping people now from scanning images from books, postcards and posters is either a mistaken belief that it is illegal or fear that it may be judged to be so..

Left on 19th July 2009 bhy Jimbodiddly —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimbodiddly (talk • contribs) 08:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

postbqp

Hi, I'm in the process of fleshing out the postbqp page and the connection to pp, can you undo the merge that you just did? Daveagp (talk) 17:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)daveagp

I could but can you explain why you don't want them to be merged? There was quite a bit of redundant material between the two articles, and that was the main reason for merging, not because the PostBQP article was short. Dcoetzee 17:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

National Portrait Gallery copyright conflicts

[2] Ottava Rima (talk) 15:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's a good idea for me to advance an opinion in that discussion. Dcoetzee 15:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Your real name is being used on an article at Wikipedia. You have the same moral right to object to such things as Sam had. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I have no moral objection to that aspect. I just don't think I should publically comment on an article with relevance to an ongoing legal dispute. Dcoetzee 19:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Should you unblock Amisquitta? This user has not brought any legal action against you. The user who has actually threatened you, the National Picture Gallery, does not have an account. This is as close to the mess as I will come. Good luck to everyone. Acme Plumbing (talk) 06:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Amisquitta apparently represented Anthony Misquitta of Farrer & Co, who did in fact co-write the legal notice I received. I don't think it's wise to get involved as an administrator in matters related to the NPG, but neither would I object to an unblock. Dcoetzee 06:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm sorry to bother you about this issue you yet again. But Regarding your remarks about the AfD, could you possibly comment whether it would be at all accurate to say that your desire to have the article in project space if the AfD failed was at all connected or influenced by the fact that project space is NOINDEXed? That is, did you consider this to be a reason to keep it around? I'm sorry to bother you, but Ottava Rima and I apparently disagree over what the simple, obvious reading of what you had to say is, and asking you to clarify would help matters (there's a long discussion on both OR and my talk pages, but we both replied to each other on the other's page, so it is a bit hard to read through). JoshuaZ (talk) 01:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

No, that was not my motivation - in fact, in the days of the noindex debates, I argued that all pages on Wikipedia should be indexed, and I still believe that. The page itself should clearly indicate whether or not it is an encyclopedia article. Dcoetzee 01:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)