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== WTF on AfD ==

Hey Metropolitan90, thanks for cruising by and leaving me this message:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dannysullivan&diff=0&oldid=207042508

Telling me that by golly, I left a message on a close AfD page (huh, what, can you just speak plain language?) and that hardly anyone will see those comments there (even though you did) and that if I want to challenge a deletion of something, I should use some arcane cryptic obscure Wikipedia deletion review process.

Here's a little acronym for you. WTF?

Look, somehow in the insane closed little world of Wikipedia editors, where non-specialist editors pretend to be experts on what's notable, you decided that this person wasn't. You know, because you all couldn't find enough references, in part because you don't know the subject enough to even know how to find the right references -- but even if you had, since you're not subject experts, they mean nothing to you.

So, despite my general feeling that contributing anything to Wikipedia is a big giant waste of time, I actually left you all some pretty detailed references. At the very least, I'd think you'd have though hmm, maybe there's enough there that this should be put up for re-review. And since you're actually an expert on Wikipedia procedures -- why didn't you just do it?

What's the point here? To have an accurate crowd-sourced encyclopedia, or to only have it be as accurate as the incredibly tiny few number of people who care to play in the high priesthood of Wikipedia editing allow it to be.

If it's the latter, well, job well done. If it's the former, well, you know what to do.

Geez, just to leave you a response, in the email I got, I was told to go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Metropolitan90

Which then told me at the top that actually, to contact you, I should come to this page. Which in turn, you know, isn't particularly user friendly.

Revision as of 23:35, 23 November 2011



Inquiry on AfDs

Hi Metropolitan90, I'm interestd in the AfDs process in Wikipedia and notice that you once involved in AfDs. I'm not sure whether you find that some discussers are admins while some are not. I'm just wondering whether you care about the adminships of the participants in deletion discussions. Does the referee's adminship affect your attitude towards the result of AfDs? Thanks. Bluesum (talk) 03:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It doesn't make that much difference to me (from my perspective as someone participating in AfDs as opposed to closing them), because I often don't remember who is an admin, and it would be unusual for me to check on all the participants in an AfD discussion I was in to see which ones are and which ones are not admins. On rare occasions I might do that, but not normally. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:20, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for weighing in!

Thanks for weighing in on Wafah Dufour. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 19:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2011 July newsletter

We are half way through the penultimate round of this year's WikiCup; there is less than a month to go before we have our final 8. Our pool leaders are New Zealand Adabow (submissions) (Pool A, 189 points) and Russia PresN (submissions) (Pool B, 165 points). The number of points required to reach the next round is not clear at this time; there are some users who still do not have any recorded points. Please remember to update your submissions' pages promptly. In addition, congratulations to PresN, who scored the first featured topic points in the competition for his work on Thatgamecompany related articles. Most points this round generally have, so far, come from good articles, with only one featured article (White-bellied Sea Eagle, from Scotland Casliber (submissions)) and two featured lists (Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story, from PresN and Grammy Award for Best Native American Music Album, from Another Believer (submissions)). Points for Did You Know and good article reviews round out the scoring. No points have been awarded for In the News, good topics or featured pictures this round, and no points for featured sounds or portals have been awarded in the entire competition. On an unrelated note, preparation will be beginning soon for next year's WikiCup- watch this space!

There is little else to be said beyond the usual. Please list anything you need reviewing on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, so others following the WikiCup can help, and please do help if you can by providing reviews for the articles listed there. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews generally at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup- points are, of course, offered for reviews at GAC. Two final notes: Firstly, please remember to state your participation in the WikiCup when nominating articles at FAC. Finally, some WikiCup-related statistics can be seen here and here. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 11:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Simply a friendly greeting

I hope you enjoy this cookie as a friendly greeting from a fellow Wikipedian, SwisterTwister talk 07:07, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 17:08, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hot Sauce

You should consider switching to Crystal Hot Sauce — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fasttimes68 (talkcontribs)

Talkback

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-- Luke (Talk) 00:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You've declined the proposed deletion of BollySpice, which doesn't quality per WP:NOTABILITY and WP:WEB. The website has not received specific coverage from independant, notable third party sources or newspapers. Its content has not won a well-known and independent award, and is not distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators. Scieberking (talk) 10:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Côteaux et Châteaux

Hello! You deleted the talk page of Communauté de communes Côteaux et Châteaux on August 28. :(

I was building a draft for that article and had explained that on it's talk page… Anyhow, i have (re)created the article and talk page so please don't delete them : they do now have a parent article. :|

I now realise it's my fault for leaving a talk on it's own (G8 —thanks for info) but i'm just informing you in case you think that i'm some nut who's been re-creating deleted pages. :)

Thanks for reading this! Benzband (talk) 14:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC) :D[reply]

WikiCup 2011 July newsletter

The finals are upon us; we're down to the last few. One of the eight remaining contestants will be this year's WikiCup champion! 150 was the score needed to progress to the final; just under double the 76 required to reach round 4, and more than triple the 41 required to reach round 3. Our eight finalists are:

  • Scotland Casliber (submissions), Pool A's winner. Casliber has the highest total score in the competition, with 1528, the bulk of which is made up of 8 featured articles. He has the highest number of total featured articles (8, 1 of which was eligible for double points) and total did you knows (72) of any finalist. Casliber writes mostly on biology, including ornithology, botany and mycology.
  • Russia PresN (submissions), Pool B's winner and the highest scorer this round. PresN is the only finalist who has scored featured topic points, and he has gathered an impressive 330, but most of his points come from his 4 featured articles, one of which scored double. PresN writes mostly on video games and the Hugo Awards.
  • Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions), Pool A's runner-up. Hurricanehink's points are mostly from his 30 good articles, more than any other finalist, and he is also the only finalist to score good topic points. Hurricanehink, as his name suggests, writes mostly on meteorology.
  • Ohio Wizardman (submissions), Pool B's runner-up. Wizardman has completed 86 good article reviews, more than any other finalist, but most of his points come from his 2 featured articles. Wizardman writes mostly on American sport, especially baseball.
  • Principality of Sealand Miyagawa (submissions), the "fastest loser" (Pool A). Miyagawa has written 3 featured lists, one of which was awarded double points, more than any other finalist, but he was awarded points mostly for his 68 did you knows. Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, including dogs, military history and sport.
  • Canada Resolute (submissions), the second "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Resolute's points come from his 9 good articles. He writes mostly on Canadian topics, including ice hockey.
  • Greece Yellow Evan (submissions), who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool A). Most of Evan's points come from his 10 good articles, and he writes mostly on meteorology.
  • Australia Sp33dyphil (submissions), who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Phil's points come from his 9 good articles, 4 of which (more than any other finalist) were eligible for double points. He writes mostly on aeronautics.

We say goodbye to our seven other semi-finalists, Another Believer (submissions), Poland Piotrus (submissions), United Kingdom Grandiose (submissions), Bavaria Stone (submissions), Norway Eisfbnore (submissions), Saskatchewan Canada Hky (submissions) and Wisconsin MuZemike (submissions). Everyone still in the competition at this stage has done fantastically well, and contributed greatly to Wikipedia. We're on the home straight now, and we will know our winner in two months.

In other news, preparations for next year's competition have begun with a brainstorming thread. Please, feel free to drop by and share any thoughts you have about how the competition should work next year. Sign ups are not yet open, but will be opened in due course. Watch this space. Further, there has been a discussion about the rule whereby those in the WikiCup must delcare their participation when nominating articles at featured article candidates. This has resulted in a bot being created by new featured article delegate Ucucha (talk · contribs). The bot will leave a message on FAC pages if the nominator is a participant in the WikiCup.

A reminder of the rules: any points scored after August 29 may be claimed for the final round, and please remember to update submission pages promptly. If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 00:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Osarius : T : C : Been CSD'd? 11:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Gulf Organization

Hi, I made some changes in the article, please check and write the result in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Persian Gulf Organization if you can. Thanks Mehran Debate 20:37, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your attention. Mehran Debate 05:56, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2011 September newsletter

We are on this year's home straight, with less than a month to go until the winner of the 2011 WikiCup will be decided. The fight for first place is currently being contested by Principality of Sealand Miyagawa (submissions), Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions) and Australia Sp33dyphil (submissions), all of whom have over 200 points. This round has already seen multiple featured articles (1991 Atlantic hurricane season from Hurricanehink and Northrop YF-23 from Sp33dyphil) and a double-scoring featured list (Miyagawa's 1948 Summer Olympics medal table). The scores will likely increase far further before the end of the round on October 31 as everyone ups their pace. There is not much more to say- thoughts about next year's competition are welcome on the WikiCup talk page or the scoring talk page, and signups will open once a few things have been sorted out.

If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 12:44, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bradford Dungeon

Actually London Dungeon seems to indicate that you can actually create something of the sort and find enough tourists to make money. My afd was primarily based on the fact that surely nothing so stupid could ever exist. Since I'm obviously wrong about that, I'd rather kill the AfD even if I still feel the page should go because it's premature. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 15:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect the tourist attraction detailed in the article Bradford Dungeon (fan made) does not exist. I can find no mention of it on the internet, the article contradicts itself, e.g. "is a popular tourist Attraction in Bradford" and "Opening in 2012", but more disturbing is reference to a Great Fire segment, which tastelessly makes reference to the Bradford City stadium fire in which 56 people died. I suggest this article is removed at the earliest opportunity. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 12:53, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for fixing my blunder at Talk:Caiyad Phahad. Here, have a brownie. MJ94 (talk) 03:25, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AfD for Zip Code 30052

I've added a number of other ZIP codes to the nomination, you may wish to have another look. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:28, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pablo Cheng

Hi, Metropolitan90! Just curious as to *why* you declined the speedy deletion request for Pablo Cheng? The article (about a person) doesn't credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject and is an obvious candidate for speedy. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Two reasons: his Internet Movie Database listing indicates that he does seem to have an acting career, and the article has been on Wikipedia for almost six years. Although the article doesn't truly assert his significance, as you indicated, it would be better to take the page to AfD and have an open discussion to see whether he does have significance and there is some interest in improving the article so it can be kept, or not. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 19:47, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Gnostic Marshalism Spirituality

It looks like this article was recreated. I didn't tag it as spam, is it the same article? Gnostic Marshalism Spirituality Thanks! --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2011 October newsletter

The 2011 WikiCup is now over, and our new champion is Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions), who joins the exclusive club of the previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009) and Sturmvogel_66 (2010). The final standings were as follows:

  1. Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions)
  2. Australia Sp33dyphil (submissions)
  3. Greece Yellow Evan (submissions)
  4. Principality of Sealand Miyagawa (submissions)
  5. Ohio Wizardman (submissions)
  6. Scotland Casliber (submissions)
  7. Canada Resolute (submissions)
  8. Russia PresN (submissions)

Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.

No prize was awarded for featured pictures, sounds or portals, as none were claimed throughout the competition. The awards will be handed out over the next few days. Congratulations to all our participants, and especially our winners; we've all had fun, and Wikipedia has benefitted massively from our content work.

Preparation for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Interested parties are invited to sign up and participate in our straw polls. It's been a pleasure to work with you all this year, and, whoever's taking part in and running the competition in 2012, we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn and The ed17 00:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 WikiCup participation

Awarded to Metropolitan90, who reached round 2 in the 2011 WikiCup.

It was good to have you on board this time around- we hope you enjoyed the competition! In case you are interested, signups for next year are open. Thanks, J Milburn and The ed17 20:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Metropolitan90. You have new messages at Bwilkins's talk page.
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FOSTER NATURAL GAS/OIL REPORT

Thank you for your prompt administrative action on the [[Foster Natural Gas/Oil Report]. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:40, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would ask to restore the talk page of Foster Natural Gas/Oil Report. It contains several discussions as also open page-move request. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 20:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's restored now. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:04, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

SEO "professional" biopage argument

Very solid argument in favor of deletion here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jessie_Stricchiola I had another deletion request going from the same category that struck out as a draw. Would you give it a look and share your thoughts on article and argument for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jill_Whalen Cantaloupe2 (talk) 20:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

for signing in for me. I haven't done that in quite awhile! My bad. Smatprt (talk) 07:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You declined the CSD on the above page with the edit sum "article asserts notability", which part of the article does that ? Mtking (edits) 20:11, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All firms can describe themselves in that way. Mtking (edits) 20:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's an "assertion" of notability. I didn't say it was "proof" of notability, but an article doesn't need that to escape speedy deletion. Just take the page to WP:AFD if you think it ought to be deleted. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:03, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chatting with Classmates

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 Chzz  ►  18:15, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your userpage inspired me

I have resurrected Wikiracing. As you seem to have an interest in the topic I thought I should let you know. Any sage wisdom would be welcome. heh. JORGENEV 05:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As the article needs more work before it is ready, I ask that you consider my suggestion that it be Userfied back to its author for continued work OUT OF MAINSPACE, as the topic IS verifiable and might well be seen as passing WP:NF when completed. I will be glad to oversee its growth and improvement away from the ticking clock and I have strongly urged on the author's talk page that he use userspace for creation of his drafts for new articles in the future, and not mainspace. I think its reasoable to give him guidence and time to learn. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:21, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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WTF on AfD

Hey Metropolitan90, thanks for cruising by and leaving me this message: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dannysullivan&diff=0&oldid=207042508

Telling me that by golly, I left a message on a close AfD page (huh, what, can you just speak plain language?) and that hardly anyone will see those comments there (even though you did) and that if I want to challenge a deletion of something, I should use some arcane cryptic obscure Wikipedia deletion review process.

Here's a little acronym for you. WTF?

Look, somehow in the insane closed little world of Wikipedia editors, where non-specialist editors pretend to be experts on what's notable, you decided that this person wasn't. You know, because you all couldn't find enough references, in part because you don't know the subject enough to even know how to find the right references -- but even if you had, since you're not subject experts, they mean nothing to you.

So, despite my general feeling that contributing anything to Wikipedia is a big giant waste of time, I actually left you all some pretty detailed references. At the very least, I'd think you'd have though hmm, maybe there's enough there that this should be put up for re-review. And since you're actually an expert on Wikipedia procedures -- why didn't you just do it?

What's the point here? To have an accurate crowd-sourced encyclopedia, or to only have it be as accurate as the incredibly tiny few number of people who care to play in the high priesthood of Wikipedia editing allow it to be.

If it's the latter, well, job well done. If it's the former, well, you know what to do.

Geez, just to leave you a response, in the email I got, I was told to go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Metropolitan90

Which then told me at the top that actually, to contact you, I should come to this page. Which in turn, you know, isn't particularly user friendly.