User talk:Thehistorian10

A small translation required

Hi, I am reviewing some content on the wp:en April 1961 page (16 April), where a widely-distributed part of a Spanish language speech of Fidel Castro is quoted. At present, no English translation is provided. I think I have found the most accurate Spanish version, from the Granma website:

• "Compañeros obreros y campesinos, esta es la Revolución socialista y democrática de los humildes, con los humildes y para los humildes. Y por esta Revolución de los humildes, por los humildes y para los humildes estamos dispuestos a dar la vida." http://www.granma.cubaweb.cu/secciones/6to-congreso-pcc/artic-04.html and http://www.ecured.cu/index.php/Socialismo
• Two machine translations, below:
• 1. "Fellow workers and peasants, this is the socialist revolution democratic and humble, the lowly and the humble. And this revolution of the humble, by the humble and for the poor, are willing to give life."(google)
• 2. "Working companions and farmers, this is the socialist and democratic Revolution of the humble ones, with the humble ones and for the humble ones. And by this Revolution of the humble ones, the humble ones and to the humble ones we are arranged to give the life."(yahoo-babel & bing)
• I know very little Spanish, and I only have a pocket Spanish-English dictionary, but my crude interpretation is as follows: "Fellow workers and peasants, this is the socialist and democratic revolution of the humble, with the humble, and for the humble. And with this humble revolution, we wish to give a humble life to the humble."(peterwd)
• So far, I have been unable to locate a convincing English version (eg today borrowed Volker Skierka Castro biography). I would be most grateful if you can help find a reliable and uncontroversial translation that can be quoted in wp:en, or perhaps suggest a translation of your own. MTIA, PeterWD (talk) 16:13, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for your speedy response; I intend to use your translation in my planned changes. PeterWD (talk) 19:31, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Update. I amended the article as planned, but now I have found an English version (but not the Spanish) in Fernandez, Jose Ramon. 2001. Playa Giron/Bay of Pigs: Washington's First Military Defeat in the Americas, p. 56: "Companero workers and peasants, this is the socialist and democratic revolution of the working people, with the working people, and for the working people. [Applause] And for this revolution of the working people, by the working people, and for the working people we are prepared to give our lives." The publisher's note says: "This book is being published by Pathfinder simultaneously in English and Spanish. The 1961 speeches and documents included here have either been out of print or not easily accessible in either language for several decades. In English some are appearing for the first time, and all are published in new and more accurate translations. The April 16 speech by Fidel Castro has been translated into English for the first time; the April 23 report to the Cuban people on the battle of Playa Giron has been newly translated, and the May 1 speech was previously published only in an unreliable English text prepared by the U.S. government's Federal Broadcast Information Service..."

Your comments will be welcome, to help decide whether to stick with the currently posted version, or amend it to suit. MTIA, PeterWD (talk) 14:38, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your advice, and your generous award tags; I hope you won't mind if I clean out the tags after a period - I'm not keen for my efforts to be proclaimed. In the amended page, I have continued with the truncated version of the speech, to suit the summarised nature of the day entries, but I intend to use a fuller version elsewhere, perhaps in Wikiquote. PeterWD (talk) 20:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Historian. I'm one of the co-ordinators at the Mediation Cabal. We'd really like to thank you for jumping in to try to mediate a dispute, but we're a little concerned that you may not have the dispute resolution experience needed to handle the burden that a mediation entails. We were wondering if you would ask on the MedCab talk page for some other mediator to co-mediate the case with you, or perhaps consider withdrawing and returning the case status to "New", as we feel the case may be a little tricky for someone a bit new with mediation. If you choose to withdraw, we'd encourage you to get some experience working at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard or at the Third Opinion project then come back and take or co-mediate a MedCab case later because we always need some help. Perhaps you could have a read over our suggestions page and let us know what you'd like to do? Regards, Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 06:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Notice of intent to torture

The Dive Right In Award I award this Dive Right In Award to you as a newcomer who has shown real enthusiasm in helping with administrative tasks at Wikipedia. It's sometimes hard to get your balance, and there's a lot to learn, but keep on trying. Many, many thanks, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Nonetheless, in light of your user page, please be on notice that as a speaker of the Texan dialect of American English I intend to torture you by using the word "y'all" as the second person plural pronoun each time we are editing on the same talk page, just as I do in everyday informal speech. (Just be thankful that I'm not from Arkansas and use "you-uns" instead of "y'all". That would really get your panties in a wad. Oh, sorry, let me translate that: get your knickers in a twist.) Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

And If I see such a thing such as "y'all", I will viciously correct you! --Thehistorian10 (talk) 17:41, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Trial of Conrad Murray

Do you still want to mediate your issues? You had two, and one of them is now moot because I replaced the infobox with a case infobox that doesn't include the names of the participants. So, the only thing left to "mediate" is the verdict. The verdict is now mentioned in two places in the article, in the lead and in the body. It has to be mentioned in the body because it's so obviously important, and the lead is a summary of the highlights of the body, and, clearly, the verdict is a highlight. So, the only thing left to discuss is whether it deserves its own section. As I said on the Talk page, there's no existing section to put it into (I didn't create the strange structure of the article). It doesn't belong in the prosectuion or defense sections, so where would you put it?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:52, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

The point is that I wouldn't have it in the article at all (other than in the infobox). If I had it my way, the section "verdict" would be struck out. --Thehistorian10 (talk) 17:39, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Based on that point of view, I won't agree to the mediation. Thanks for clarifying your position, though.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:39, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

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Wikiquette case

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Co-op

As you've nominated it at GAN you'd better finish copyediting it.J3Mrs (talk) 17:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

It is not my article. I am merely an impartial reader who thinks that the article should be a good article. Unfortunately, I can't now reviewe it, as the rules state that the nominator cannot then review his own work --Thehistorian10 (talk) 20:02, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

It's a quick fail. If you thought it was good enough for GAN your judgement is flawed.--J3Mrs (talk) 20:36, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

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Pyrrhulina

I declined your speedy delete request as the article is not about an individual animal, it's about a species. You can of course take it to WP:AFD or WP:PROD if you want. --GraemeL ^(talk) 19:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

It's about a genus actually. :) If you PROD it, I will challenge the PROD. LadyofShalott 19:49, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Could have been worse, I could have come over all creationist and called it a kind. --GraemeL ^(talk) 20:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

<chuckle> LadyofShalott 20:33, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aaron Schulz

You opened this up why? Alexandria (chew out) 18:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Why do you think? It's blatant sockpuppetry

I invite you to read WP:Multiple Accounts and then get back to me on that. Alexandria (chew out) 18:19, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

You need to take a look at User:VoA, where it clearly says that it was a test account of User:VoiceOfAll, who also happens to be a MediaWiki developer (as well as an admin and CU, but that's beyond the point). The account was properly disclosed, and there is nothing close to any sign of abusive socking. Please stop. –MuZemike 18:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:CSD nomination of Helena Romanes School and Sixth Form Centre declined

You nominated this as having no context. At the time you nominated it, it began "The Helena Romanes School and Sixth Form Centre (HRS) in Essex, England, is a mixed-sex comprehensive school for ages 11-18.[2] It is situated in the rural Essex countryside, occupying approximately 35 acres (140,000 m2) just to the north of Great Dunmow. A Sports and Leisure Centre, shared with the local community, is located on site. HRS is a specialist Humanities College with approximately 1500 pupils." That is a clear and specific context so it is hard to understand how you could possibly have believed this nomination was appropriate. Please be more careful in the future when nominating articles. Thanks. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:44, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Request for third opinion

Hi Thehistorian10, thanks for looking into my request for a third opinion about the page Emeka Jude Ugali. The reason for my request was that another user, who has been editing the page anonymously, seems to disagree with the points I've made on the Talk page and keeps deleting my maintenance templates.

I hope WP:3 was the right place to ask about this kind of thing, apologies if it wasn't. I'm relatively new to en.wiki :) Jean (t · c) 15:56, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

It was the correct place - I don't have a problem with where you went, but I was puzzled by the fact that you (appeared to be) talking to yourself...--Thehistorian10 (talk) 16:04, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

I am pretty much talking to myself, the anonymous users only interacted with me by deleting my templates. May I ask, what would one normally do in this case? Jean (t · c) 16:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

If you use "Twinkle" in your edits, then go to the page, and, in the Twinkle toolbar (it's normally a dropdown menu starting witht eh letters "TW" if you use the "Vector" skin), click the link named "RPP". This will get you a diologue box for requesting a page protection for the article or the talk page (or you could do both). This means that no one can edit that page. It needs to be approved by an admin though, and you need to provide good reason. --Thehistorian10 (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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Adoption request

Hi Thehistorian10, I notice you've had a request for adoption up for a little while. If you would still like to be adopted, can I suggest that you contact one of the editors on the list of adopters? As Wikipedia is a volunteer project and many adopters are busy, a more pro-active approach would mean that you are more likely to be noticed. If you've got any questions, feel free to leave me a message. Worm^TT · (talk) 14:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear you had some difficulty finding an adopter - I'm going to see what I can do about that for future editors. For now though, I'd be glad to adopt you. Worm^TT · (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Thehistorian10. Sorry for the delay, but I've set things up for you. Have a look at User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Thehistorian10 and let me know if you've got any questions Worm^TT · (talk) 12:08, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Mediation Cabal

Hi,
How are you feeling about the medcab case so far? I'm concerned that it has been going off track. On one hand, it's good that the parties involved have all sat down at the table and are discussing it civilly (you'd be surprised how many medcab cases don't even get that far). However, I think it's unhelpful to talk in terms of deadline dates for submissions, or shutting down discussion when you're not around, or escalation to arbcom at this stage. The mediation cabal is generally quite informal and easygoing; a "lightweight" process (a deliberate contrast to things like arbcom). Most experienced wikipedians are fairly good at discussing things and working towards consensus/compromise if given the right conditions; a good mediator could just be a squirt of WD40 in the mechanism. Of course, if somebody in a dispute is obstructive/uncooperative, we might have to reach for a crowbar, but I don't think that's the case yet with string theory. bobrayner (talk) 03:50, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I merely set deadlines just to keep the thing on track! I don't think this needs to be drawn out, otherwise there will be a mountain of evidence to work our way through when it comes to deciding on anything. Without structure, this thing will not get resolved at all. --Thehistorian10 (talk) 09:12, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I'd like you to have a looksee at the last comment I made (the most recent one today which has my name attached) in our medcab case. In a nutshell: the recommendations made by the parties seem to have been implemented, and therefore I am willing to mark the case as closed. I have thus asked for final comments on that idea before I do so. I asked for such comments from all participants - including you. Please oblige, then we can decide what to do...--Thehistorian10 (talk) 18:16, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Happy holidays

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