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'''[[Hygeberht]]''' was the [[Bishop of Lichfield]] from 779 and Archbishop of Lichfield after the elevation of Lichfield to an [[archdiocese]] some time after 787, during the reign of the powerful [[List of monarchs of Mercia|Mercian king]] [[Offa of Mercia|Offa]]. Little is known of Hygeberht's background, although he was probably a native of [[Mercia]]. Offa succeeded in having Lichfield elevated to an archbishopric, but the rise in Lichfield's status was unpopular with [[Archbishop of Canterbury|Canterbury]], the other southern English archbishopric. Offa was probably motivated by a desire to increase the status of his kingdom and to free his kingdom's ecclesiastical affairs from the control of another kingdom's archbishopric, and possibly the need to secure the coronation of Offa's successor, which the Archbishop of Canterbury had opposed. After Offa's death his distant relative [[Coenwulf of Mercia|Coenwulf]] became king, and petitioned the pope to have Lichfield returned to a simple bishopric. The pope agreed to do so in 803, by which time Hygeberht was no longer even considered a bishop: he is listed as an abbot at the council that oversaw the demotion of Lichfield in 803. The date of his death is unknown. ('''[[Hygeberht|more...]]''') |
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Saw your note "40em is a better system as it adjusts for wide monitors". Not sure what 40em is supposed to do, but I have a wide Apple monitor running Firefox and the cites are showing in a single long column, not multiple columns, with lots of dead white space to the right of the column. Is that how it displays on your screen? Green Cardamom (talk) 19:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- NOpe, three columns on my Apple 30" display in Safari. Probably a Firefox issue? Template:Reflist suggests to use the "em" option rather than forcing a specific number of columns. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- It seems to be the 40, I previewed on 10,20,30 and they all worked to create multi-columns but 40 didn't. If you don't mind I set it to 30, that's the example number in template:reflist -- Green Cardamom (talk) 03:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
QH & Morgans
Hey, long time no chat. Need your brain: Dana and I are working on Morgan horse. The article contains a claim sourced to the Okie state site that Morgan mares shipped to Texas, lost in the sands of time, influenced the American Quarter Horse. However, the AQHA site says zip about it, this book says they shipped some to the King Ranch. Can you help us either confirm or debunk the influence of the Morgan on the Quarter Horse? (I honestly don't care which way it goes, just want to bust breed myths if needed. So far the Morgan seems to have claims nearly as exaggerated as Arabians for influencing everything right and good in America!) Montanabw(talk) 20:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Short answer - yes, indeed there are Morgan bloodlines in the QH. Not a huge amount, but there are. One guy's name was Andrew Sellman, and he had a bunch of mares that influenced a number of the Texas breeders. Let me dig for a few articles... I have them in the files somewhere.. There is also one documented Shetland cross into the QH, along with a number of Arabians. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:57, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for anything you can do! Just throw it all into the Morgan article or on the talk page there, whatever works. (SHETLAND PONY! ROFL!) Montanabw(talk) 21:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Fuller answer - You want these articles: Frank King "The Quarter and Morgan Horses" Western Livestock Journal October 15, 1941 pp. 37-38; Duval Williams "Morgan Blood in Our Western Cow-horse" Cattleman September 1939 pp. 25-26; Jeanne Thomas "Morgan Bloodlines in Texas Quarter Horses" International Horse's Mouth (do not have date or pages on this); Mrs. S. W. Worthington "Was Steelduts a Morgan?" Western Horseman May-June 1939 pp. 10-11; LaVonne Houlton "Richard Sellman's Morgans Part 1" Western Horseman March 1967 pp. 12; 101-103; Houlton "Richard Sellman's Morgans Part II" Western Horseman April 1967 pp. 68, 102-106; Houlton "Richard Sellman's Morgans Part III" Western Horseman May 1967 pp. 80, 160-163. There are also Morgan bloodlines in the 6666 Ranch lines, in the Matador ranch lines, in the JA Ranch lines. The 4 6's used two Morgan stallions - Jubilee King and Redolent. Matador used Rondeau by Headlight Morgan and Pluto by Troubador of Willowmooor. The Triangle Ranch also had some Morgan bloodlines. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- It's also quite easy to troll through the first five AQHA stud books and see the various "mare by a Morgan stallion" or "part Morgan mare" as dam lines. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- What would be the best way, then, to state and cite something akin to "Morgan bloodlines had influence on the American Quarter Horse." We maybe could/should mention the stallions if they were quite significant? (See the talk page of the Morgan article) Montanabw(talk) 16:52, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ealdgyth, I don't have access to any of these sources. Do you have the time/interest to whip something up re: this topic, or could you e-mail me copies of whichever articles you think would be best for this topic? We don't need a huge exposition, but the fact that Morgans contributed to one of the most popular breeds in the world today is probably deserving of more than the sentence it's currently given in the article. Dana boomer (talk) 15:12, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- It depends on what you're looking for.... they contributed, but not nearly as much as the Thoroughbred or the Mustang would have. THe problem with the stuff from the Stud Books is that ... it's all OR. (I need to get that article done someday...). I'm like swamped in RL work ... and with William the Conqueror at FAC - my time is somewhat limited. It might be a week or so before I can really dig into this. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, maybe something along the lines of "Morgans played a part in the development of the Quarter Horse, although their contribution was much smaller than that of the Thoroughbred and Mustang. Some famous Quarter Horse lines that developed from Morgan stock were...." or something along those lines? Just a couple of sentences, a small paragraph at most, I'm thinking. No biggie on it taking a while - I still have some digging to do into a few other areas, so although I'd like to take the article to GA in the next few months, I'm not in any real hurry. July/August is extremely busy in RL for me, as well, so I'm not sure how I'll fare in the upcoming Cup round... :( Let me know if there's anything of yours that I can take a look at/help out on in return... Dana boomer (talk) 18:01, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Whatever you can do, as you can do it. Dana and I are noticing that the Morgan folks seem to have almost as many heroic myths about their breed as we saw with the Arabians and Andalusians, so as we slaughter sacred cows, we just want to have very good sources. We also have a good non-WPEQ helper on this one with Intothatdarkness. Montanabw(talk) 20:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, maybe something along the lines of "Morgans played a part in the development of the Quarter Horse, although their contribution was much smaller than that of the Thoroughbred and Mustang. Some famous Quarter Horse lines that developed from Morgan stock were...." or something along those lines? Just a couple of sentences, a small paragraph at most, I'm thinking. No biggie on it taking a while - I still have some digging to do into a few other areas, so although I'd like to take the article to GA in the next few months, I'm not in any real hurry. July/August is extremely busy in RL for me, as well, so I'm not sure how I'll fare in the upcoming Cup round... :( Let me know if there's anything of yours that I can take a look at/help out on in return... Dana boomer (talk) 18:01, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- It depends on what you're looking for.... they contributed, but not nearly as much as the Thoroughbred or the Mustang would have. THe problem with the stuff from the Stud Books is that ... it's all OR. (I need to get that article done someday...). I'm like swamped in RL work ... and with William the Conqueror at FAC - my time is somewhat limited. It might be a week or so before I can really dig into this. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ealdgyth, I don't have access to any of these sources. Do you have the time/interest to whip something up re: this topic, or could you e-mail me copies of whichever articles you think would be best for this topic? We don't need a huge exposition, but the fact that Morgans contributed to one of the most popular breeds in the world today is probably deserving of more than the sentence it's currently given in the article. Dana boomer (talk) 15:12, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- What would be the best way, then, to state and cite something akin to "Morgan bloodlines had influence on the American Quarter Horse." We maybe could/should mention the stallions if they were quite significant? (See the talk page of the Morgan article) Montanabw(talk) 16:52, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- It's also quite easy to troll through the first five AQHA stud books and see the various "mare by a Morgan stallion" or "part Morgan mare" as dam lines. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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What is your thinking on the IP who added the painting of Napoleon on Marango to the Arabian horse article? We DID need an image there since the Polish image was tossed from Commons (still want to find that painting and put it back, was mega-cool). My concern is how good the evidence is that Marengo was an Arabian, I've seen some stuff saying he's a partbred? What do you have on that?? Montanabw(talk) 17:07, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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- Um.. I've never edited your talk page. Since I haven't, I couldn't have spammed a Template:Talkback on your page. Perhaps have you mistaken me for someone else? Ealdgyth - Talk 17:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- This guy is impersonating you. You can't blame Niemti for assuming that the message came from you given that it had your signature attached. 188.29.226.84 (talk) 23:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Note that it was autosigned by Sinebot with the IP address. Also, a quick glance at the editing history of the user talk page would show I've never edited it. Nor have I ever edited the supposed edit-warred page... a bit of due dilligence is probably in order before accusing someone of something like that... especially when the warning was put in by an IP address. As an aside, I've never edited as an IP - but whatever. It's pretty clear it's not me. I've got no interest in editing TV show articles ... Ealdgyth - Talk 23:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Probably worth reporting the IP for that crap, though. Niemti appears to be a new user and the diff looked kind of real for a few minutes before Sinebot got there. That said, Niemti, you DID jump the gun not to check this out. Montanabw(talk) 01:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Note that it was autosigned by Sinebot with the IP address. Also, a quick glance at the editing history of the user talk page would show I've never edited it. Nor have I ever edited the supposed edit-warred page... a bit of due dilligence is probably in order before accusing someone of something like that... especially when the warning was put in by an IP address. As an aside, I've never edited as an IP - but whatever. It's pretty clear it's not me. I've got no interest in editing TV show articles ... Ealdgyth - Talk 23:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Catholic bishop
Hi Ealdgyth, long time no see. I'm in the middle of expanding an article on a Catholic bishop (draft here) but am worried that I'm not using some of the terms correctly. Could you help me, or point me at someone who has a pretty good understanding of the topic? Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:28, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Heh. I'm much more familiar with usage for terms in the middle ages, not modern times. I would post over at the Christianity project for someone conversant with modern usage. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:24, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yeah, I'll drop by the Wikiproject as the draft approaches completion. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hygeberht was the Bishop of Lichfield from 779 and Archbishop of Lichfield after the elevation of Lichfield to an archdiocese some time after 787, during the reign of the powerful Mercian king Offa. Little is known of Hygeberht's background, although he was probably a native of Mercia. Offa succeeded in having Lichfield elevated to an archbishopric, but the rise in Lichfield's status was unpopular with Canterbury, the other southern English archbishopric. Offa was probably motivated by a desire to increase the status of his kingdom and to free his kingdom's ecclesiastical affairs from the control of another kingdom's archbishopric, and possibly the need to secure the coronation of Offa's successor, which the Archbishop of Canterbury had opposed. After Offa's death his distant relative Coenwulf became king, and petitioned the pope to have Lichfield returned to a simple bishopric. The pope agreed to do so in 803, by which time Hygeberht was no longer even considered a bishop: he is listed as an abbot at the council that oversaw the demotion of Lichfield in 803. The date of his death is unknown. (more...)