User talk:Jetstreamer

How To Have Someone Blocked From Editing A Page

Hi Jetstreamer.

I need to have someone blocked from editing a page. A user by the name of DONALDderosa keeps removing information on the Allegiant Air page under the fleet section. The last sentence of the last paragraph on that page keeps getting removed when I clearly added a reference and removes it for no apparent reason. I need some help administrating this page. I need protection before this gets out of hand.--Triple A (talk) 23:35, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Protection is intended for preventing anonymous users to edit a page, but it won't work for registered users. The only protection that will work is full protection, which will force the users engaged in an edit war to discuss the issues at the article's talk page. If the edits in question are vandalism, you may report the user here.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 00:15, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok so now that same person is adding junk to my talk page that I do not want to have. Everytime I keep removing it, he keeps readding it. What do I do for that? Can you report them for me, or can you warn them to stop doing that?--Triple A (talk) 03:51, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The page is now fully protected, so you can discuss the differences in your edits at the article's talk page. The other user is accusing you of vandalism, but your edits are not vandalism at all. You just have a dispute regarding content (not so long ago you and me also had them). The best way to solve this is to reach consensus.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks alot Jetstreamer! I really appreciate it. I don't that user will be bothering me again! Happy holidays!--Triple A (talk) 14:42, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

@Aerospace, There is a discussion started at Talk:Allegiant Air regarding the full protection. Just a reminder....When discussing, be civil to one another and no personal attacks to one another. Happy Holidays! Snoozlepet (talk) 17:30, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Corruption in Rafic Hariri article

I notice that you undid my edit removing the section concerning Rafic Hariri and corruption. But I did so becuase the cited sources in no way supported the paragraf. In fact, they contradict it! The Independent article said that "No one is accusing Mr Hariri of anything... the Prime Minister was so rich that nobody stood a chance of bribing him". The Nation article does critisize Hariri, but does not level the accusations in the paragraph.

That's why I removed it. It's compleltly unsourced, and increadibly not NPOV. Do you now think I should remove it again?81.129.211.200 (talk) 21:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Do not remove anything, just try to find suitable sources to correct the things you mention, as well as to give due weight to the section.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:00, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

RE: Talk:Ethiopian Airlines

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አቤል ዳዊት (Janweh) (talk) 15:21, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Casablanca airport

The route Malaga - Casablanca is not on sale on the website of Helitt, that´s why I put the remark on the Casablanca airport article. 85.84.34.236 (talk) 13:49, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

According to WP:VNT, you should provide a source.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

May I ask why you delete new routes announced by Transavia from the article about the Eindhoven airport? What sources? The routes have been announced all over the place, have be on sale on the website of the airline for weeks http://www.transavia.com/hv/nl-NL/vluchten. And the same goes for the cancellation of the Malaga-Casablanca route. It´s nice to ask for sources but sometimes it gets a bit obsessive. 85.84.34.236 (talk) 21:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Verifiability is a policy. Everyone should stick to it.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:58, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	For your hard work on aviation related articles. ...William 14:15, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you William. Happy New Year 2013!--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:44, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Help with translation

Hello Wiki-fellas! This time I'm needing help with a translation. In principle, a Chinese-speaking Wikipedian can help. Can anyone please translate 安哥拉航空公司北京代表处正式落成 into English? Thanks in advance.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I know no Chinese, but Google Translate says it means "Angola Airlines Beijing Representative Office officially completed". Any good? If not, a post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China will be seen by many Chinese-speaking editors. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:50, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Neither do I regarding Chinese. Thanks for the advice! I will post the message there.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:57, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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editing

Dear,

I received a message from u concerning some of my edits on Balkan, Bulgarian Airlines [BBA] English page. It would be easier 4 me not 2 do a thing, as what I do, I'm doing it 4 free, but still let me explain:

In the table that I tried 2 remove there are wrong data, based on Aviation Safety.net. This is a private site which sometimes obviously reproduces wrong info.

The total of the victims of BBA is 547, and according 2 what u support - about 300. This difference comes from several mistakes on the mentioned website, including a crash on August 2, 1988, presented as one made by an aircraft of Hemus Air and not BBA. But Hemus Air was established several years latter - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemus_Air.

There are also other similar mistakes.

How do I know -

Well, in Bulgaria, during the secretive communist regime there was no any info on such crashes. Latter on, during the 90's experts from BBA produced a documentary book /in Bulgarian only, unfortunately!/ - where all the accidents and crashes were described in detail - ref 4 here:

http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BD_(%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F)#.D0.9D.D0.B0.D1.87.D0.B0.D0.BB.D0.BE_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D0.B1.D1.8A.D0.BB.D0.B3.D0.B0.D1.80.D1.81.D0.BA.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B0_.D0.B3.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B6.D0.B4.D0.B0.D0.BD.D1.81.D0.BA.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B0_.D0.B0.D0.B2.D0.B8.D0.B0.D1.86.D0.B8.D1.8F

So, I'm sorry 2 disturb u and will no longer edit this page, but it's unfortunate that u prefer repeating wrong data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.213.136 (talk) 13:20, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

No disturbance at all. All I did is to follow WP:VERIFY and WP:VNT.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:48, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Kenya Airways planned acquisition of Boeing 77W.

Your recent edit of the Kenya Airways fleet page is quite amusing & misguided. In 2011, KQ signed an agreement to acquire two 77W's through a 12 year leasing deal with GECAS. The first aircraft will be delivered in October of 2013 and the second in the 1st quarter of 2014. In April of 2012 when KQ signed the mega deal with GE to acquire 19 engines for the 9 787's GE engines, the CEO also mentioned the two leased 77W's which will also be powered by GE engines. Search: "Kenya Airways in $380 million deal for Dreamliner's engines" on YouTube and hear the KQ CEO talk about the two 77W's.

The latest press release (2012) which you quoted which states Kenya Airways has one 773 on order is the one being financed and to be fully owned by KQ through Afreximbank after the recent cash call. In actuality, KQ has THREE 77W's on order. The reason why all the orders are not in a composite press release is because the leasing of the GECAS aircraft is done through an offshore leasing company in a Tax haven region. The current four 772's were acquired in the same manner.

I wont change your edit, but I'll be back in October when the first of the two leased aircrafts are delivered and you can explain how a 773 order was fulfilled in less than a year.

Happy New Year! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magellanmax (talk • contribs) 03:38, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Ryanair services to Manchester Airport

Thanks for your prompt reply

I have been updating the Manchester Airport Page for some 7 hours today making sure all linked articles return to the Manchester Airport home page correctly and removing many broken links and cancelled routes.

I have now added the references and short note - Initially as a seasonal flight showing in the Ryanair booking engine. It may be year round but don't know at the moment.

Regards

Rutankrd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rutankrd (talk • contribs) 22:30, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm trying to find a third-party source...--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:35, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Link to Manchester Airports own new services page

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/manweb.nsf/Content/NewRoutes

Regards

rutankrd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rutankrd (talk • contribs) 23:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Added a third-party source. Despite it does not provide a firm date, it's better than nothing.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 23:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Official websites

Hi! About this edit of West Caribbean Airways that page was an archive of the page of the company official website. The URL wca.com.co was that of West Caribbean WhisperToMe (talk) 07:32, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

It's evident that it was not my best day when I made that edit. The reference you reinstated is perfectly valid. My apologies.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Apology accepted :) - Happy editing! WhisperToMe (talk) 16:13, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Monarch Airlines routes from Larnaca International Airport and Faro Airport

Id like to advise I have re-added Monarch Airlines routes that are currently operated from this airport, I don't understand to why you have removed them as these routes are 100% in operation and can be found selling on monarch.co.uk.

I have also re done my revision for the route Leeds Bradford Airport to Faro which is a route that will begin and currently being sold on monarch.co.uk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.95.15 (talk) 19:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Help

Hello you keep removing my edits when in fact I am correct in my edits, the routes will be operating and can be seen on <monarch.co.uk> please check out the routes and allow my changes to be made to ensure Wikipedia is kept up to date and 100% correct and reliable.

Many Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.95.15 (talk) 20:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I understand what you say, but that's not the way Wikipedia works. See WP:VERIFY and WP:IC.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:34, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

What should I do then? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.95.15 (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Either provide a source with any claim you add or do not add anything at all.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:42, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

My source is Monarch.co.uk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.95.15 (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

See WP:SOURCE.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:46, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I give up, ha thanks anyhows, however you will see the route added within the next couple of months! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.95.15 (talk) 20:48, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Cairo International Airport

People continue to add airlineroute.net as a source for Korean Air but that source cannot be used as it is not considered reliable. Thanks! 71.91.69.220 (talk) 05:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

No idea who is behind this IP but he/she added more or less the same thing on my talk page including a threat against me. The discussion about airlineroutes.net continues on WikiProject_Airports. Maybe you'd like to contribute there as well. JochenvW (talk) 13:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

PLUNA

I've replied at Talk:PLUNA. --RFBailey (talk) 00:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Istanbul Ataturk Images

That is normal to repeat images of Turkish airlines aircrafts. In wiki commons category of airport is upload only 30/35 photos and 10/15 of them are of Turkish airlines. And I think it is nice to have pictures on Airlines and destinations category.

Wikipedia is not a collection of fancy images.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 01:56, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

P.D.: Newest thread goes at the bottom. Also, you should sign your posts, like I do --->--Jetstreamer ^Talk 01:56, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

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Move request

Hello. Can you please move my recently-created article Air Algérie Cargo Flight 2208 to Air Algérie Flight 2208. I cannot do it on my own because the latter page already exists, yet it's a redirect. Moreover, I made a mistake when moving the article from my sandbox, and mistakenly created User:Air Algérie Flight 2208. Can you please delete it as well?. Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Y done MilborneOne (talk) 15:44, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Ethiopian Airlines Referencing Questions

Hello Jetstreamer.

Sorry to bother you about Ethiopian Airlines again. I was wondering about a couple references that would be deemed acceptable, or unreliable to you. 1. I was looking on this website and say they have 9 Bombardier Q400s in the fleet and that the rest have been delivered to ASKY Airlines. So I was thinking that you should remove the order of Q400s that still appears under order. 2. I found an article stating ET's intentions to operate two of their Boeing 777-300ERs to both D.C, and Guangzhou. I looked for several articles seeing if ET ordered, or leased two Boeing 777-300ERs, but couldn't find any but the one listed above. 3. I have been hearing ET will be starting service to Madrid, Sao Paulo, and Rio de Janerio. I have found some references, but would like to see if you would see these as a reliable source to you.

• • Reference saying ET will operate to Brazil
  • Reference saying ET will operate to Madrid
  • Another reference stating ET will operate to Madrid

--Triple A (talk) 18:05, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

No, the sources above are not reliable ones.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

About my additions on Turkish Airlines Destinations page

Hello,

Just after I added Tallinn and Vilnius and revised Kuala Lumpur lines, I tried to add the references, but I was unable to do so. For some reason, I can see only limited number of references (until the one about Entebbe) and I could not add the new ones.

My references were http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/18/tk-dackul-jun13/ and http://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik-haberleri/thyden-baskentler-atagi.html by the way.

Regards, Engin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.169.193.30 (talk) 15:39, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Adding references

Hello again Jetstreamer,

I tried to add references many times on Turkish Airlines Destinations page, but cannot do so.

This is the official announcement regarding the initiation of Libreville service on January 31, 2013: http://www.turkishairlines.com/tr-tr/kurumsal/haberler/17318/yeni-ucuslarimiz-libreville

There is no official announcement yet, but a number of websites contain the following news. Kuala Lumpur service resumes on April 25, 2013: http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/18/tk-dackul-jun13/ Tallinn and Vilnius service begins on June 11, 2013: http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/18/tk-tllvno-jun13/

I cannot add these links to the References part.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.169.193.30 (talk) 08:01, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

The service to Libreville has already been added by another editor. Regarding the other two, the references you privide aro not considered reliable.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 12:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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Edit war on Mariscal Sucre International Airport

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Continued edit warring on Mariscal Sucre International Airport or any other article may cause you to be blocked without further notice. Toddst1 (talk) 22:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

There has been a blatant violation of WP:VERIFY, which is a policy. I thought policies were there to be followed.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:32, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but you can't edit war over it. Toddst1 (talk) 23:11, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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January 2013

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This is just surprising. I suspect I've been blocked by the admin above because I've reported an IP user that has been acting in bad faith, ignoring all the messages left in their talk page, and the one that gets a block is me. Apart from that, I've never broken WP:3RR. Can you please give me a resonable explanation? Of course, I intend my block to be thoroughly reconsidered. As per my contributions, you can see that I've never acted in bad faith. How does this continue? Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 1:23 pm, Today (UTC+0)

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In regard to the matter above, can an administrator block a user preemptively? If so, what about WP:AGF? I'm deeply concerned about this situation.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:01, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussing with blocking admin; I'll get back to you ASAP. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jetstreamer. After hearing Toddst1's explanation, I believe I understand the reasoning behind the block. He warned you above about edit warring with the IP, and explained that repeatedly reverting unverified information still constitutes edit warring. The continuation of your feud with the IP editor, despite this warning, is the underlying reason for the block.

Had you reported the IP straight away without reverting, this wouldn't be an issue, but except in cases of clear-cut vandalism (which this wasn't), repeated reversion of unconstructive edits is a violation of the EW policy. I don't for a moment argue that the IP's information should have been kept, merely that you should not have gone about it in the manner you did.

This is an extremely close call, and I must confess I'm rather on the fence with it. As such, I've decided not to lift the block; but rather than declining it outright I've re-opened the template so that another admin can offer their thoughts and unblock if necessary. I'm sorry that this obviously isn't the result you wanted, but I can't honestly call it a bad block given the circumstances. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, thanks for your time. Let me tell you that I'm not doing this because I'm blindly looking for an unblock, but because I believe the decision of the blocking administrator was misjudged. The episode at Vienna International Airport was not properly an edit war, as the IP user had already been warned by other users regarding their mass edits on other airport articles, and should at least be considered a disruptive practice. The proof of this is that the administrator that blocked me also blocked the IP. I'm well aware of the policies and guidelines regarding this matter. I'm again placing the {{admin!}} for another opinion. Honestly, I believe users that are not administrators but act in good faith, making huge contributions with the goal of improving this enciclopedia (I'm one of them) are in a clear disadvantage when situations like this one arise. Probably, the block will expire before I get a positive response. This is a bitter situation for me, but feel that also goes in detriment of the project, mostly given that I'm on holidays this month and it's my time for contributing most. Sincerely, my feeling about this is that I've been punished for a situation I did not create. Thanks again.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:36, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Comment from blocking admin: Perhaps you should read the wikipedia page on WP:EW. It doesn't appear that you understand it. I'm also concerned about your assertion that the IP you were edit warring was acting in bad faith. That is evidence of bullying. Toddst1 (talk) 16:05, 25 January 2013 (UTC)