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So the frenzy around your idea on the graph is that there are potentially other explanations for the changes in job growth outside of marginal tax rates. Presenting that graph as is, without an outside authoritative source that directly draws that comparison is the nub of the issue. Your sources seem to address other items related to, but not directly addressing this issue. It seems like a lot of energy is being exerted around this so I thought I'd check directly outside of the noise. [[User:Mattnad|Mattnad]] ([[User talk:Mattnad|talk]]) 19:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC) |
So the frenzy around your idea on the graph is that there are potentially other explanations for the changes in job growth outside of marginal tax rates. Presenting that graph as is, without an outside authoritative source that directly draws that comparison is the nub of the issue. Your sources seem to address other items related to, but not directly addressing this issue. It seems like a lot of energy is being exerted around this so I thought I'd check directly outside of the noise. [[User:Mattnad|Mattnad]] ([[User talk:Mattnad|talk]]) 19:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC) |
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== FYI -- Accusations against User:MilesMoney == |
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Hello Ellen. I think you may not be aware that an editor is accusing User:MilesMoney of being a sockpuppet of a banned user with whom you may be familiar: See here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Nrcprm2026] and here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MilesMoney#Sock_Investigation]. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 21:54, 16 October 2013 (UTC) |
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using ref tags and cite templates
Hi, saw your short live question at the Teahouse about how to use ref tags and cite templates. Not a problem but a quick crash course in how to display them without upsetting the formatting :-) There's a very useful set of tags called <nowiki> </nowiki> which if you put them round anything else stop the wiki software acting upon those tags so to display <ref> without it affecting anything else I put nowiki tags round it. It's the same with {{cite}} or any other code.
Anyway to business, ref tags and cite templates are used mostly for Inline citations. The basics are:
"Add the article text that you want to reference<ref>Add the reference details in between some ref tags</ref>"
and then at the bottom of the article add {{reflist}} which is point at which the software will display all the references added. What you use for the reference details is up to you but this is where the family of {{citation}} templates come into their own.
There are quite a lot, but there are four that are more commonly used that the rest. These are {{cite web}} for web references, {{cite book}} for paper references, {{cite journal}} for sources from paper magazines, academic journals etc and {{cite news}} for news items either online or paper. Each has their own set of parameters which you can see by clicking on the links I've put in but in general there are a number of common parameters such as author(s), url (for online items), title, publisher/publication, date, page numbers (for paper references) etc. You don't have to use all of the parameters, but enough to get information over that would enable a reader to know where to look, if they wanted to look the source up.
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Thank you for your excellent work!
This edit that you recently made at Presidency of Barack Obama is wonderful, and does a lot to improve the article.
In addition, your recent comments and questions at Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama are much appreciated.
The following link contains a huge number of links to reliable sources which you may find helpful: tinyurl.com/138examples
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Welcome to Wikipedia, EllenCT! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. Thank you for your contributions. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions check out Wikipedia:Questions, or feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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stewardship economy
I was a bit surprised that the Stewardship_economy was accepted - could you talk me through your thinking on this one - is it a theory that is widely known and cited in recent economics? --nonsense ferret 10:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for your work on Stewardship Economy
Very many thanks for the attention you have given to this submission - very helpful. It's good to have an editor who is familiar with the field, New Economics Foundation etc. The points about prose and references in the benefits section are well taken, and I will revise it along those lines at the weekend. There's no url for the supplement because it is still in draft form, but I can abstract suitable references from the material to add. I think I will chip in on the deletion page that Nonsenseferret has initiated and follow up some of the points there. Naturally I'm convinced by your arguments, and impressed that you have found those references, but if it is deleted don't let it discourage you - you may just be ahead of the curve. Very best wishes Julianpratt (talk) 21:24, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Greetings. I think this is going down http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Stewardship_economy but many thanks for your efforts Julianpratt (talk) 06:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
on the U.S. section
hey. you've got some good sourced contribution on U.S. economy. But a couple of observations from an editor without 'a dog in this hunt.' Occasionally articles get a drive-by editor who only looks at long pages, and United States gets an occasional look-see by one of those sorts. So after I expanded U.S. constitution to about how I would like it to be, two editors and me doing some ancillary work alongside, have cut it by one-half. I think at the worst it was third-longest, yuk. my bad.
The editorial guideline/policy they used was "encyclopedic style". So there have been large chunks moved to subsidiary articles, and one spin-off article. Much ruffled feathers at the removal because articles that have "always been political science" and those which have "always been philosophy" did not appreciate spill-over from 'constitutional history', and what is that in a faculty senate, anyway, so over time, most have been removed as not "germane". But generally I have found that Wikipedia --- apart from occasional proprietary turf wars --- is open to "expanding knowledge" of contributions of sourced information. [Aside. You can print out old editions, or mirror them on your own 'sandbox' or 'editor:article' page, so I have printed out 'my' WP articles in a notebook for my two daughters when I go. There is no time left to make things right, and keep them right for the sake of Wikipedia. I make a contribution and move on, except for maybe make a stand for 19th century Confederate flag-not KKK-not modern secessionist in Confederacy, and maybe modern era full citizens-not second-class aliens in territories. There is more to do for my notebook for my girls, see next paragraph.]
Oh, yes, the point is that much of your latest contributions at 'United States' which are resisted there, might be welcomed at another linked subsidiary article. Also, I have found that lots of subsidiary articles are not linked into general articles. For instance, at one time, a delightful project editors initiated some time ago, a series of historical-context ""[state, city] in the American Civil War]"" had not been linked in the "See also" section of WP-self reference links at 'American Civil War' at one time. Likewise because there was no project, the nomenclature for "[nationality/ethnicity] in the American Civil War" articles were of various formats and titles, so harder to put together for African-American, Irish, German, Italian ethnics, Canadian, foreign, Mexican nationalities. I have not gotten to the Amerindian tribes. Those 'first-nations' were divided North and South each among the Five in Oklahoma, the Plains Indians made war on everybody. The Mexican reference at WP has no separate article, it is buried in a subsection of a memorial bridge, so it is periodically removed by someone with a bot? or a POV? removing the link to a bridge about Mexicans as not-germane. I suppose I should take it upon myself to create the 'Mexicans in the American Civil War' article.
An-y-wa-y, the point, the encyclopedia would be well served if you find a subsidiary article which fits your contribution more detailed economic information that is resisted in a summary-topic-type article, then you make sure it gets connected in the 'United States' article either by a subsection link "Main article" or at the bottom in the "See also" section, so there is a link for those pursuing more detailed economic metrics. The links are an easier sell because they are short (do not interrupt the summary narrative), sweet (lends depth and thereby stature to the article) and unobtrusive (if one-blue-lined link. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 10:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello EllenCT
- I have recently removed a paragraph from Initial Public Offering that you may have worked on, or contributed to. The paragraph contained allegations made by a plaintiff in an ongoing lawsuit, and was supported with a reference to a NYT Op/Ed piece. The allegations were presented as fact, rather than allegations. The Op/Ed piece was presented as fact, rather than as an opinion of the specific author. The author's interpretations of legal documents and securities underwriting activities were presented as fact, without reference to the author's background and knowledge of either the law or corporate finance. No attempt was made within the paragraph to present a balanced presentation of arguments made by both sides of the issue. The paragraph heading was inflammatory, and presumed the truth of Plaintiff's allegations.
- I believe that the information you were attempting to present does have a place within the article. But that would require a re-write, as a neutral, with careful attention paid to the sorting out (and identification) of facts from allegations and opinions. Gulbenk (talk) 05:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- I copied this to Talk:Initial public offering#Corruption and will respond to it there. EllenCT (talk) 21:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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Here is the user page that has the format for the project:
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Thanks for you advice on how to improve the presentation. I'm glad that you're willing to help. The next step is to recreate User:Mcnabber091/Economy of the United States for all 196 countries. I would be very happy if you were willing to help create new wiki articles for more countries (ex. China, Sweden, United Kingdom, Ethiopia, Monaco, Nauru, Japan, etc.). Partial data is all I'm looking for. Copy/paste from: User:Mcnabber091/Economy of the United StatesMcnabber091 (talk) 17:42, 10 April 2013 (UTC) I think the tables are necessary for the data being presented. All of the data is in 3 or more columns.There will be sections that are primarily qualitative such as 'History'.Mcnabber091 (talk) 00:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- You really need to work with Wikidata on this. EllenCT (talk) 05:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Once Wikidata is finished, it will be an awesome resource for all wikimedia projects. Wikidata will compliment the Global Economic Map in a great way.Mcnabber091 (talk) 18:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Global Economic Map to-do
Right now I am looking for volunteers to post new country articles to the project page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map. If you have any questions on where to find the economic data I can tell you where to look. I have emailed about 30 professors around the world trying to find volunteers to help add content. I am going to email some more.Mcnabber091 (talk) 15:16, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi EllenCT, there are some new developments in my project and right now I am seeking outside opinion about where this project should be located within Wikimedia. Recently, I tried submiting a Wikipedia article named 'Economic summary of the United States' and was rejected. If you are interested in learning more you can check out, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Economics#Global_Economic_Map Mcnabber091 (talk) 16:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Ellen, I hope your finals went well this Spring. Mine went well.
Now that the summer has begun for me, I am going to actively add to the project.
I'm curious to hear if you still want to help out and which country you would like to work on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcnabber091 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- I got a job and a near-perfect lab grade, but my graduation is delayed until Fall due to circumstances beyond my control. I am thinking of creating a guide to high-yield bond index funds amenable to foreign investment trusts in the developing world. It seems to me that is how I could help the greatest number while increasing income equality and building my own professional reputation outside of my day-to-day work as an analyst. Have you made contact with Wikidata about your almanac-style project? EllenCT (talk) 09:34, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Crooks & Liars
Are you 'News Hound Ellen'? If so, WP:SELFCITE should be considered. (And with that guideline in mind, WP:SPS would restrict you from making any comment about a third party.) – S. Rich (talk) 14:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- No, and I don't even know who that is. I don't even read C&L regularly, except when one of their stories comes up on my http://getprismatic.com profile, which they do about once per week. Are you John Stossel or related to him or have a financial interest in his work? EllenCT (talk) 15:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- I only asked the question because "Ellen" is used as the name on the blog. I was not implying WP:COI. I am not John Stossell. I do not have any connection to him or his work. – S. Rich (talk) 15:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Baseless NPOV accusation
Hello, I'm Srich32977. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Economic inequality seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Yes, there is a discussion involving you and Morphh. But the issue (in the real world) is not resolved. Seeking to skew the Garret study as an "early" one was not proper. – S. Rich (talk) 15:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- This topic has as much to do with "June 2013" as there is evidence that people who think the jury is still out on income inequality have read the math. I thought that policy specified that these discussions should take place on article talk pages, not user talk pages, but perhaps there is some contrary mathematics that I don't know about and as such my ability to judge that 2010 is earlier than 2011 needs to go down on my permanent record. :( EllenCT (talk) 16:11, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- The heading is added automatically by the template bot, and it serves to parse recent postings from others. I've revised it. Not a big issue. I did post the message as a reminder to you about the necessity to follow NPOV, which became a concern in the Economic inequity edit you made. In posting this message, I hope to remind you to look at your edits. The discussion about what should be in the actual article is well underway on that talk page. I shall follow it with interest. Turn that :( into a ! – S. Rich (talk) 16:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- If you want me to be happy then please read the sources and answer the questions I've asked. How would you like it if someone accused you of political bias when you knew you were mathematically and otherwise correct? EllenCT (talk) 17:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Ellen, you asked if I was connected with Stossel and I answered. Your questions had absolutely no foundation, but implied COI and bias on my part. On the other hand, I asked you if you were News Hound Ellen because both New Hound and you use the same name. (And given your response, I will continue to WP:AGF.) My concern about income inequality was regarding the particular edit you made some two weeks after the last commentary on the talk page. It was an improper edit because it mischaracterized what the Garret article said.
- I am not going to engage in debate with you about income equality in general. That subject is too complex and controversial, and I have other interests. You might be mathematically and politically and otherwise correct, but the issue, for us as Wikipedians, concerns proper editing. Please be careful and don't let your correctness (and/or motivation about the subject) hamper good editing. Jesus told us we will always have the poor amongst us (Matthew 26:11 and Mark 14:7). If that is true, then our edits to WP won't change the world. But we do need to approach our edits with the best NPOV attitude we can muster. – S. Rich (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- That sentence has a second clause. EllenCT (talk) 03:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed it does. Still, Jesus said decision to help them is voluntary, and Jesus recognizes that helping them directly is a feckless undertaking (because they will always be amongst us). Enormous progress has been made in the last few decades of the 2 millennia to reduce poverty around the world. Moreover, this progress did not come about because people with "good ideas" go about using other people's money to help those who will not help themselves. Is there income/wealth inequality? Yes. But I am not going to get upset about it. – S. Rich (talk) 13:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- "Feckless"? These last few decades have seen the most poverty reduction where modern post-industrial NGOs such as Doctors without Borders, the Peace Corps, and the World Bank have been throwing around the same mix of donated and other people's tax money as the state-supported missions of the 15th-19th centuries did, but with increasing efficiency and more powerful agricultural tools. EllenCT (talk) 17:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed it does. Still, Jesus said decision to help them is voluntary, and Jesus recognizes that helping them directly is a feckless undertaking (because they will always be amongst us). Enormous progress has been made in the last few decades of the 2 millennia to reduce poverty around the world. Moreover, this progress did not come about because people with "good ideas" go about using other people's money to help those who will not help themselves. Is there income/wealth inequality? Yes. But I am not going to get upset about it. – S. Rich (talk) 13:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- That sentence has a second clause. EllenCT (talk) 03:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- If you want me to be happy then please read the sources and answer the questions I've asked. How would you like it if someone accused you of political bias when you knew you were mathematically and otherwise correct? EllenCT (talk) 17:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- The heading is added automatically by the template bot, and it serves to parse recent postings from others. I've revised it. Not a big issue. I did post the message as a reminder to you about the necessity to follow NPOV, which became a concern in the Economic inequity edit you made. In posting this message, I hope to remind you to look at your edits. The discussion about what should be in the actual article is well underway on that talk page. I shall follow it with interest. Turn that :( into a ! – S. Rich (talk) 16:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- [1]. In Africa, at least, the aid effort has not been too worthwhile. But you are certainly right about more powerful agriculture. Technology, which is developed by corporations and implemented by farmers, has had dramatic impact on reducing hunger -- [2] is part of the story. NGO giveaway programs do not help. In fact, they hinder. – S. Rich (talk) 18:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Who do you think has been sowing the "high-yielding varieties" mentioned in that Nature Geoscience article, teaching the locals how to tend them, and digging their irrigation channels? Most of the lack of progress in Africa has been due to the AIDS epidemic in the 1990s shown at right and progress there should continue to accelerate. Do you still contend that the voluntary actions separating the Sheep from the Goats at the Last Judgement are "feckless"? EllenCT (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- [1]. In Africa, at least, the aid effort has not been too worthwhile. But you are certainly right about more powerful agriculture. Technology, which is developed by corporations and implemented by farmers, has had dramatic impact on reducing hunger -- [2] is part of the story. NGO giveaway programs do not help. In fact, they hinder. – S. Rich (talk) 18:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Ellen, just dropping a note to say hi. I hope you don't mind that I'm keeping on eye on you. Anyway, I don't have anything particular to discuss except to say that I hope you don't get too burnt out or discouraged by the contentious debates around here, and you find the time to stick around, even if on a limited basis. Over the years I've tended to get into the habit of just moving on to another topic when I get into a vicious debate. Perhaps not the best habit, but it can reduce stress. However, I certainly don't want to discourage you from spirited debate. Regards, II | (t - c) 07:18, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
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- A bug that made it impossible to save VisualEditor edits that triggered a CAPTCHA has been fixed. [3]
- Several bugs that occurred on right–to–left wikis have been fixed last week (bug #49416, bug #49613, bug #50543).
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- I'll keep it on my watchlist, but as I said on the talk page, I'm not interested in being repeatedly insulted by one person who has no support and several opposers in an argument going around in circles, in an attempt to replace mainsteam POV with a pro-politician propaganda campaign. EllenCT (talk) 23:19, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree there is no point in continuing to debate the WP:Consensus version of the article with CJK on the talk page. I have tried to summarize the issues under the heading “WP:Consensus – CJK’s edits contain original research and move article to a less NPOV” on the talk page. I hope you with continue to contribute your NPOV to the article, which is now unlocked. I do not think we should allow CJK to replace a NPOV article with a pro-politician propaganda campaign. Truthwillneverdie (talk) 15:44, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
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- A new version of the Flow Prototype can be tested on Wikimedia Labs. [13]
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- SpamBlacklist messages are also supported (bug #50826).
- Users can now edit
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- Hello Ellen. Thanks for commenting on the North RfC. I thought I'd give you a quick reply here rather than posting my thoughts on the RfC. (I set up the RfC and am holding off on posting my own thoughts. I've already said a lot in the discussion earlier.) With regard to WP:ABOUTSELF, I'm looking at #3. If North were talking about himself, directly, ABOUTSELF would apply. But some of the stuff quoted in the North article is North talking about others -- American Indians, the Puritans, and homosexuals etc. If there was a secondary source that talked about how North was making such comments, I'd have much less heartburn. But these are North's thoughts all on their lonesome, and they are presented in a negative light. I'd have heartburn too if editors were posting North's positive comments, if those comments were not discussed by secondary sources. Thanks for considering my remarks, and happy editing. – S. Rich (talk) 00:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I had never heard of the guy until Steeletrap's message above, but I did read the sources. If someone claiming to have egalitarian motives in their professional life is going to self-publish bigoted and sectarian screeds under their own name on their own blog, I think that says a lot about the author, not just the groups he's writing about. EllenCT (talk) 19:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Pywikipediabot moved their code from SVN to git; bot owners need to update their tools. [21]
- The Notifications and Thanks extensions were added to Meta-Wiki on July 26; other wikis will get them soon. [22]
- It is now possible to add edit summaries on Wikidata using the API; the feature will be added to user interface soon. [23]
- The software that resizes large PNG images on all wikis was changed on July 25. Resizing of PNG files bigger than 35 megapixels should be faster and more reliable now. [24]
- Three new webfonts (Gentium, Old Persian and Shapour) will be added to Universal Language Selector. [25], [26], [27]
- Special:MIMESearch, which gives a list of files by type, will be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis with MediaWiki version 1.22/wmf12 (bug #13438). [28]
- A mailing list to discuss multimedia features was started; users are encouraged to sign up.
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- A preference to completely disable VisualEditor while it is in beta phase was added on July 24. [30]
- Many bugs were fixed in right-to-left languages. [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36]
- It is possible again to scroll down in the template editing window (bug #51739).
- VisualEditor now works with the FlaggedRevisions extension. (bug #49699)
- If the user opens VisualEditor using a section edit link, the title of the section is added to the edit summary (bug #50872).
- Invisible templates now can't be deleted by accident or on purpose (bug #51322).
- I thought the discussion had established that my proposal wasn't part of the policy, even though people thought it was. I'd prefer that you put it back, otherwise I should just open a new one without the benefit of the previous discussion's context. EllenCT (talk) 00:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see where people think it is part of policy, I didn't, it is simply what we do. Why chase a problem that doesn't exist? In contrast this RfC addresses a real problem of disruptive editing which has being going on counter a previous WP:SNOW result. If you want to start a separate RfC on Franz Josef Strauss to enshrine what we already do and where a problem doesn't exist, then by all means go ahead and link to the old RfC, but if I might suggest, perhaps take some time to prepare what you want to acheive from such an RfC and identify some actual examples before doing so. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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- What? I've never edited anything about Spain as far as I can remember. EllenCT (talk) 02:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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- There was a bug that caused false positives for anti-blanking edit filters; it is now fixed. (52077) [43]
- The "edit" and "edit source" tabs and section edit links can now be changed more easily; for example, some wikis are using "edit source" for wikitext editing, and "edit beta" for VisualEditor. You can ask for the same change in bugzilla.
- You can now edit references that are added inside a
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Thanks for the link
That's good report you showed me. Thanks for showing me that. I can see how statistics from here such as the wealth estimates might be used in my project (consumer sections).
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Quick note to register how awesome I think your user name is. Out of curiosity are "C" and "T" initials, or do you hail from the great state of Connecticut? NickCT (talk) 12:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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Adding a second RfC
Hi, I'm removing your second RfC tags on the ASCII RfC. Good faith and all but I've never seen it done before that anyone on the 30th day of an RfC adds another alternative RfC, particularly with a massive WP:SNOW as this one. Also as you don't seem to be proposing anything that isn't already done. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, EllenCT. I've seen hundreds of edits made by Collect over the past few years. I can assure you that he believes in the rule of law, including the Geneva Conventions. When I read his comment "it fails the laugh test", I wasn't exactly sure what "it" was referring to. I sort of thought he either meant Democracy Now! as a reliable source or the awards given to Amy Goodman. I did not think he was referring to violations of the Geneva Conventions by US military personnel. No one in his right mind, and that includes Collect, would think such violations are a laughing matter. Collect is under duress at the moment—he and several other innocent bystanders are about to be barred from editing the Tea Party movement article for six months, without a shred of evidence being presented against them. So, he has gone on strike in protest. Thanks for listening and thanks to your family members who are serving in the armed forces of this great country. --108.45.72.196 (talk) 03:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Costa del Sol
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That Graph re: Marginal Tax Rates
Hi EllenCT (or is it Ellen?), I hope I don't come off as inflexible on the need for strong source to support that graph. You are a great asset to Wikipedia and I've noted your many positive contributions to the project. I wanted to ask you directly whether you understand the point that we, as editors, cannot construct a point of view on facts from disparate sources. Quoting from the wikipeda article on Logical fallacy:
If P then Q
Q
therefore P
If it rains, the street will be wet
The street is wet.
Therefore it rained.
So the frenzy around your idea on the graph is that there are potentially other explanations for the changes in job growth outside of marginal tax rates. Presenting that graph as is, without an outside authoritative source that directly draws that comparison is the nub of the issue. Your sources seem to address other items related to, but not directly addressing this issue. It seems like a lot of energy is being exerted around this so I thought I'd check directly outside of the noise. Mattnad (talk) 19:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
FYI -- Accusations against User:MilesMoney
Hello Ellen. I think you may not be aware that an editor is accusing User:MilesMoney of being a sockpuppet of a banned user with whom you may be familiar: See here [57] and here: [58]. SPECIFICO talk 21:54, 16 October 2013 (UTC)