User talk:Sitush

... or panic madly and freak out?

Have you come here to rant at me? It is water off a duck's back.

pamiri people and list of pashtuns

for pamiri people source is this and [this

the reason why i added gojal pakistan was because the second largest population of pamiris is in pakistan and the headline doesnt state anything about that.. i would appreciate if you could revert it after looking at the sources

also in regards to list of pashtuns, pakistani is not an ethnicity but a nationality but kapoors are not pashtun as sources have been provided in the main articles of kapoor family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saladin1987 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the sources and revert if necessary, thanks. However, you've been advised before that the best place to discuss content issues is on the talk page of the relevant article. Why you keep ignoring this advice, which has been given to you by multiple contributors, is beyond me but you've said nothing at Talk:Pamiri people and you provided no source for your original edit (you've also had multiple advisories about WP:V). You can raise such issues at an article talk page and still attract the attention of a specific editor by using the {{ping}} template, which can be handy if you suspect that they may not be watching the page.

@C.Fred: Regarding the old chestnut of Pashtun/Pakistani ethnicity vs nationality generally, please recall the conversation at Talk:Prithviraj Kapoor#Pathan/Pashtun ethnicity of Prithviraj Kapoor. Ignoring the ethnicity etc entirely seems to be the optimum way to deal with the problem and is usually possible. The point is rarely important and this solution would certainly make it less likely that you'll get blocked, provided that you explain on the relevant talk pages and you seek dispute resolution rather than edit warring about it. You might also be interested in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lagoo sab/Archive. You'll notice that I have used {{ping}} in this paragraph: that is for the benefit of C.Fred, who is a level-headed admin and has (probably to his regret!) been drawn into some of the current issues. - Sitush (talk) 05:20, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	I have seen your profile and immensely respect you for the valuable contribution that you have made to some of the articles. I am just a new user and would like to be guided and supported by an expert, in his field, like you. You have an impressive collection of accolades and mine is just a token of co-operation and friendship. Khufiya Vibhaag (talk) 20:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikilove canvassing

Weird. How's he picked them? Some new,some inactive.... Dougweller (talk) 20:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for concern / remembering me. Your guidance was of great help for me to contribute. But sometimes, it is frustrating, when my edits are reverted without reason/on silly grounds! e.g. Gol Gumbaz. I am a little busy in real life activities : in India, the working hours sometime extend from 10 am. to 8 pm plus time taken for returning from office : then I find little time to contribute. Regarding your connection with Bangalore, I knew of it when glancing through your talk page about a year ago. /I've got some ugly skeletons in the family closet/ I donot agree it as ugly skeleton , because I consider it as historical statistics, maybe long forgotten! What we do now, today or this year or this decade matters most. Thanks. - Rayabhari (talk) 14:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

@Rayabhari: good to know that you're still around and that you've got your priorities right! Work is more important than Wiki. I'm afraid that silliness is never going to go away: it happens and we just have to deal with it. Keep on doing what you do. - Sitush (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Please fill out your JSTOR email

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A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Thanks for your help for Dadasaheb Phalke Award FLC. Your copyediting made a lot of difference. Its a FL now :) - Vivvt (Talk) 14:30, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

@Vivvt: No probs. Glad your hard work paid off. - Sitush (talk) 15:09, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

message from sockdologer

you are very serious Wikipedia offender. you removed very reliable sources I added to list of Rajputs. I know you'd wish to remove Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto as well but for now you have left to do it some other time, the reason being citation of Encyclopedia Britannica. you are indeed a loser. I will not add those references again because if people like you are sitting on Wikipedia to make mess of the well referenced things. then its better I quite from Wikipedia and stop reading it as many other people has done due to your malicious mischiefs. at the end I must that please get a life because your intentions doesn't matter to people who have a real knowledge of things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sockdologer (talk • contribs) 14:21, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Please see WP:RS, WP:MIRROR, WP:BLP and note the words at User:Sitush/Common#Castelists. - Sitush (talk) 15:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Ooh, you've been up to your malicious mischiefs again, you devil ;-) — Alan / Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Quit (sic) - Sitush (talk) 15:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Malicious mischiefs from an ignorant scurvy dog. These people should write for the next Pirates of the Caribbean movie. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:37, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, that one has now done this - a most bizarre criticism of me not signing my message. I'll say no more there but my bet is that story also will not have a happy ending. - Sitush (talk) 15:53, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

• "Sock"dologer is an interesting name. Blocked per WP:DUCK.[1] Bishonen | talk 16:22, 26 July 2014 (UTC).

Message to Sitush

Hi sitush, I have edited Bhagwati Charan Vohra the page with authentic source . His comrade Yashpal in his autobiography has written about his death birth and this faith which is I think is most reliable than any other sources. And about the Khatri they lived Nepal also Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darchoola (talk • contribs) 02:34, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

@Darchoola: I think you might benefit from a read of WP:Citing sources and WP:NPOV. You didn't provide a source for all of the changes that you made and when you did provide one, it was pretty meaningless. In addition, Yashpal's view may be only one of several: if various reliable sources say different things then we have to show all of them, not cherrypick one. I'm not even sure how useful Yashpal's autobiography is as a source: yes, he knew Vohra as a fellow revolutionary/co-conspirator but he is unlikely to be independent.

I can help you with citing stuff but would need more information. For example, the full title of the book, the publisher, year of publication, ISBN number (if one exists) and the page number(s) where the information is contained. You might also want to provide a quote from the source if it is difficult to get hold of. - Sitush (talk) 08:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

@Sitush: Please go through the page when Bhagwati was died on the banks of Ravi while testing Bomb as written below in the text how can you write he died in United Providence on the top ? where Ravi flows ? surely in Punjab, Lahore and not in United Province , Do you need any other reference for conformation for that also ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darchoola (talk • contribs) 03:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Darchoola, which page number is that, and in which book? Yashpal's autobiography? If so, what is the title of it? I'll certainly look into it but, as I said, I need more details about what we're supposed to be citing. - Sitush (talk) 06:17, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Sitush, there is an inconsistency in the page. The "Death" section says he died when a bomb exploded on the banks of the Ravi while the infobox says he died in the United Provinces. The Ravi flows in the Punjab and not the United Provinces. Also, while not particularly reliable, note this source [2] which says that he "died on the banks of the Ravi" (viz, The Punjab) but also says the bomb exploded on the Delhi - Agar Railway line (Agar is possibly Agra?) (which would imply the United Provinces). I'll see what else I can dig up. --regentspark (comment) 11:34, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

this source says he died of wounds sustained in Lahore. Though it is possible that he was wounded in Lahore and then moved to the United Provinces, that is extremely unlikely. Pending some other source, I'll restore Darchoola's edit. --regentspark (comment) 13:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

@RegentsPark: as I've been trying to explain to Darchoola, I don't care what we say provided that it is properly sourced. I've not had time to delve into Vohra's life. - Sitush (talk) 16:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

@Sitush: Yashpal has written autobiographical book in four volume Sinahavalokan(Retrospection) : An attempt of armed revolution in India published in 1952 by Lokbharatiya prakashan Allahabad. Book in Hindi is story about armed revolt by Hindustan Socialist Republican Army and role played by Yashpal. He has written Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev were his classmate in Lahore and Bhagwati charan was a two class senior to them.He wrote Bhagwati was a tall almost 6feet and handsome man and was a Gujrati Brahmin but came to Lahore from Agara where they lived. In volume II PAGE NO 137 He has written that center committee meeting of HSRA held on third week of January 1930 at Kanpur which he had attended. In that meeting Bhagwati charan was chosen as Secretary or Coordinator of HSRA, Azad was commander in chief,Damodar swarop as propaganda chief. In page 176-183 he wrote about incident which killed Bhagwati charan. Pseudo name of Bagwati in party was Hari , He died due to bomb blast in his hand while testing on the bank of Ravi river. He was cremated drowning into the river by Azad,Yashpal and Bachan as he had written in his book.

India Against Corruption, Aam Aadmi Party

I have reviewed your editing history and habit of regularly inserting libelous text into Wikipedia articles on India such as India Against Corruption andAam Aadmi Party and their top leaders, so as to convert Wikipedia into a "battleground" and defame/damage them electorally.

As the changes you have made just now seem to be yours alone and without consensus of other editors, I am approaching the leadership of both organisations, ie. India Against Corruption as well as Aam Aadmi Party for their official clarifications arising from your edits, since I am a registered voter in India. Mansjelly (talk) 09:28, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: "libelous", see WP:NLT. More generally, approach anyone you like - it won't make a blind bit of difference. The issues have been discussed extensively, including at WP:ANI, and you are very obviously not new to Wikipedia. - Sitush (talk) 09:43, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Mansjelly: The opinions of India Against Corruption and Aam Aadmi Party have no bearing on Wikipedia's policies and practices, and neither organisation gets to say what editors can and cannot do here on Wikipedia. If you think there are changes needed, then you should discuss them on the talk pages of the relevant articles, provide sources to back you up, and try to achieve a consensus to support you. If instead, however, you simply go around making personal attacks on editors on their talk pages, you are likely to find yourself prevented from editing. Finally, implying illegal action is quite likely to get you a quick block as per WP:NLT. Mansjelly, I seriously suggest you have a read of WP:NPA before you decide how to proceed further - and take a look at WP:RS and WP:Consensus too. — Alan / Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:52, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Weird conversation I had with the OP here: User_talk:NeilN#Ashish_Nanda. First the information is in the public domain and now it's covered under the Official Secrets Act. Huh. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

The IAC pressure group seems mostly to be a bunch of self-appointed paranoid nutters. On Wikipedia, at least. - Sitush (talk) 00:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Indic Scripts

Hey Sitush, I could use a little help here  NQ  talk 15:12, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Never mind, taken care of. Thanks.  NQ  talk 15:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

User:Nayar Caste

I thought I'd ask your thoughts about what to do about this. Mentioning members must be a blp vio, though. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: it seems from this comment that Dougweller has picked up on your query here. I've been a bit busy uploading child pornography to Commons, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 00:35, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I responded to Dougweller with thanks for that. As for that other thing, wow, that is one horrible, horrible false allegation. One really does neet a thick skin to edit here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:43, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Thick skin, a sense of humour and/or proportion. All those who are gnashing their teeth about naughty words at the moment really don't seem to understand how trivial it all is. - Sitush (talk) 00:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Please do not change the definition to Propaganda or vague meanings in Wiki texts as youth is misguided and mis informed due to errors in edits

Dear Sitush, I can understand your eagerness to keep the propagand about hate of british imperialism alive... But the definition is a definition... U cannot simply say "Inquilaab Zindabad"...which literally means long live the revolution to "Down with the imperialism"... Many of the young viewers come to Wiki to read about bhagat Singh and most of them do not go to the link about Inquilab zindabad when its definition is given in bracket (which is wrong when we say "Down with the inperialism"). You are teaching wrong things to the youth bro.. Secondly, Bhagat singh was a revolutionary, a member of HSRA, wanted to bring the socialist changes in a free India... That can be seen with his views on ineffectiveness of future Democracy...Even when we add a non-definition "Down with the democracy" tag here shows he wanted a free India...thats it.. without the revolutionary changes in Indian system... That was his key profile which you are taking away frm his information in the wiki...

Frankly, I'm not sure that the precise translation really matters in the context of this particular article but we just follow what the sources say: it makes things verifiable and easier to deal with. You'll note that another experienced contributor has reverted you also. - Sitush (talk) 00:30, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

ANI

You're welcome. I was actually a little tentative about closing the thread since I wasn't sure you'd gotten all you wanted from it, but it was attracting socks like flies on horseshit - didn't seem much point in offering them another venue in which to libel you. Yunshui ^雲_水 19:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

@Yunshui: I didn't feel it appropriate to close it because, although idiotic to anyone who knows me, they were raising criticisms of me. Given the current belligerent climate across numerous noticeboards and talk pages, there might have been someone who would accuse me of censorship. Alas, I can pretty much guarantee that those behind it will be back very soon and doubtless they'll also be doing stuff off-wiki, like the death threat I got when they were last beggaring about. - Sitush (talk) 19:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, who wouldn't love a hobby where you get death threats and criminal accusations as standard? Stamp-collecting is for wimps. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

My talk page

If you cannot conduct yourself with more honor, I would like to ask you to stay away from the discussion on my talk page.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 22:00, 31 July 2014 (UTC)