User talk:DePiep

Per WP:NOBAN, I have the right to deny editors editing my userspace, by notification. The fucking trolls know who I am talking about. -DePiep (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

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	Thank you so much for all of your amazing work with the Chembox - and for putting up with all of my OSH data requests. :) You're awesome! Emily Temple-Wood (NIOSH) (talk) 01:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

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		For turning the trivial names of groups table in the periodic table article into a visual feast for the eyes Sandbh (talk) 13:43, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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THIS today is edit #50000 by DePiep on en:WP.
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Svg files

DiPiep, what software do you use to generate svg files?

I have inkscape on my winXP desktop computer. That is how I learn and produce (trusting that program). Inkscape adds loads of code. I do read svg code to see what I did (eg grouping).

I'm also learning to produce svg code literally: by text editor (like: use "circle"). Takes time!

-DePiep (talk) 21:04, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I have that one (on a Win 7 notebook masquerading as a desktop) ) but have never had the time to master it. I do my pics in word then drop them into PowerPoint and convert them into pictures. Sounds clunky but it's faster than having to learn a new app. Thanks for that. Sandbh (talk) 23:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Our issue is that I don't like to spend time on your A, B route. And as for 14xx-graphs, I'd happily make them. I disagree with File:Periodic table (polyatomic).svg because is does not gap. Even to make that gapped PT (my favorite!!), I have no time/energy these days. -DePiep (talk) 23:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

• Sandbh I like your pics, they look professional & OK. And yes, Inkscape takes a huge lot of learning time. Even worse: that is to learn the program, not to learn svg! Since svg is open standard, I am looking at internet sites to learn write it myself (by text editor). Nothing produced - yet. -DePiep (talk) 20:37, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

BTW, why do you spend so much time on 18-col (1946) PTs? Just when I start getting the big picture ;-) ? -DePiep (talk) 21:55, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Changing leads to one paragraph

In this edit you are changing the leads to one paragraph [1]. They should be left as three paragraphs IMO. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Same here [2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:06, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Doc James You are right, bad edits in the lede. You c an safely revert my edit (instead of manula repair). Because, that will notify me and it will put the article page back in the maintenance category it was about.

Interestingly, MOS:PARAGRAPHS says: "Between paragraphs—as between sections—there should be a single blank line". However, what you reinstated (and what most FA's have!) is just a <br/> forced single break at the end of a paragraph (no blank line at all). Strange. -DePiep (talk) 09:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

I manually undid the few I have come across. No worries. Not sure what a "<br/>" is. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Good. "<br/>" (=line break) in wikicode does "enforce newsline here", so the same as the two whitelines do we are talking about. Dmo

Like this lorem ipsum: blaba end of paragraph.
next paragraph newline. more blabla. -DePiep (talk) 18:23, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Spinosad

The edits you made earlier today on this article seem to have completely changed the article to one on Sorbitol. Was this intentional (or as I've done in the past a mistake using AWB)? Nthep (talk) 12:44, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

No not intentional. Reverted. Background: I use AWBscript (is not WP:AWB), and sometimes in a run it copypastes full text from article 1 into the next page article 2! Of course any preview or visual check does not reveal this (it looks like an OK page, but for the topic). I'll have to be suspicious for this. (If I made it look weird again somewhere, you can revert it safely). -DePiep (talk) 12:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Nthep (talk) 12:54, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Trains Portal and Railways Portal Merger Proposal

I'd like your input on this proposal I made here: Portal talk:Railways#Trains Portal and Railways Portal Merger Proposal. I have contacted User:Aaron-Tripel as well, but it says on his talk page that he has not been active on Wikipedia for over a year, so no guarantees that we'll hear from him. Jackdude101 (Talk) 18:03, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Golden Galen barnstar

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		You have been awarded the prestigious Golden Galen award for your contributions to anatomy articles on Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions!

Thanks for your many behind the scenes contributions to anatomy articles on Wikipedia this year, it's most appreciated and been a pleasure to continue working with you. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Appreciated! Did you notice that now we are removing all the improvements we made one year ago ;-) -DePiep (talk) 09:28, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Yep, but one lives and learns :). At least now we have a comprehensive understanding of our templates. I've used this on countless occasions when merging, deleting or proposing changes to templates (eg moves to lists in article space) so it's at least had some benefit! --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:42, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Would you consider ... YBG (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Would you consider moving your Against from the end of the brainstorm list to the newly created support/oppose section? Thanks! YBG (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

P.S. I've tried to include your comments into the brainstorm list. I trust I haven't wrenched your ideas out of context. YBG (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

So far, I see no reason to withdraw becasuse I do oppose. You may consider another reason by me, as I explained above (ie before jumping into brainstorm list.

And let me be clear at the start of this year: you might as well ask Sandbh what his preferred colors are and then skip the process. Sandbh seems to think and press into content that his highschool wall PT is the perfect form and needs no further sources, discussion or improvement. (Strange you did not address this btw). As long as this threat to push looms over Elements, it is useless and misleading to ask for contributions of others. -DePiep (talk) 03:57, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not asking you to withdraw your objection, just asking you to consider moving it from one section (WT:ELEMENTS § Potential considerations in color selection) to a different section (WT:ELEMENTS § Support for and opposition to this suggested process). I considered inserting the section head ====Support for and opposition to this suggested process==== between the list and your vote, but I thought that would be a significant change of context that was skating too close to violating WP:TPOC. YBG (talk) 06:35, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Periodic table color in element pages

I have not been paying much attention to the extensive discussion of periodic table layouts, so please let me know if the following is part of one of them, or where else I should ask, but you seem to be doing a lot of work on these sorts of things. In the article for each element, the periodic table in the infobox, is color-coded according to a set of categories. The colors are defined in {{Periodic table (32 columns, micro)/elementcell}}. My problem is that the color of hydrogen makes its space virtually invisible against the white background on which it is displayed. |category=diatomic nonmetal gives color #e7ff8f, very hard  to  see or click the small space unless you know where to look. At least for the nitrogen and oxygen spaces, their locations are knowable from the surrounding darker colored ones on multiple sides. But hydrogen is fairly alone. I'd welcome any change of color but did not want to change it too WP:BOLDly..I'm not sure what other layouts are being kept in sync. DMacks (talk) 04:45, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

At enwiki We use a set of 11 colors for what we call "metallicity categories" in the periodic table (PT). See the legend in Periodic table. This set is the same over all PT's, both html tables and images. Could be a 40-50 together. Of course this consistency is very helpful in an already complicated topic. In specialised areas and in other topics (like blocks) a different legend-set is used.

Now you happened to walk into a new discussion about these colors (you have seen). Main issue with current set is bad contrast (re WP:ACCESS): background too dark. What you describe is an issue too (distinction from bg), and already mentiooned somewhere in there.

Now picking an other set (or just chaning one color in this case) is a huge process. There are many requirements to take care of , some even contradicting. There also is: contrast with fontcolors, distinction of neighbor colors, stressing main border area metalloids, colorblindness, and more. There is no single algorithm/process/recepy to reach an outcome; cyclic is better and still compromises might be needed. The problems are especially huge because of the number "11 categories": four would be a lot easier!

We have started the process by first focusing on: the 11 distinguishable background colors (status in User:DePiep/pt-2016). A lot of extreme errors are gone already. More tuning to do. Next step would be the other requirements like good contrast with fonts, and -- relevant for your point -- effects in big/small PTs, and re background. But today these 2nd set of checks is not processed at all. Also, I'd like to research more about such issues in the process (color perception).

So yes, this is a topic already in discussion, together with 20 other issues. To be a good website, we can not compromise on these access issues (but maybe elsewhere). And it takes loads of time. On my clock, and on the calendar. -DePiep (talk) 05:47, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Sõ, there is no bold & quick solution b/c the color is embedded. Maybe, while working on this, I'll find a interim improvement. -~~

Template:Chembox Properties/doc/parameter list

Hello. I attempted to add Triple point to your list of properties at Template:Chembox Properties/doc/parameter list. However when I then attempted to add the triple point to the infobox for Carbon dioxide, the line did not appear in the infobox so I must have done something wrong. Since you created this Template and presumably understand it better than me, could you please fix my Template addition if necessary and then add T = −56.6 °C and p = 5.1 atm to the infobox for CO₂? These values are now shown as the melting point but that is not really correct because the transition occurs at 5.1 atm and not at 1 atm. Dirac66 (talk) 18:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I see. This is what went wrong: Template:Chembox Properties/doc/parameter list is just a passive reflection (it lists what is programmed in the infobox). Changing that list does not alter the infobox (as you seem to expect).

I will add your suggestion. Unfortunately this might take some days.

All suggestions can be added to Template:Chembox, BTW. -DePiep (talk) 22:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I guessed that it might be a passive reflection since my edit had no effect. I will wait for you to add it. Dirac66 (talk) 23:11, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Template talk:Short pages monitor

You may be interested in the discussion at Template talk:Short pages monitor#Need to define and possibly rethink this template. —Anomalocaris (talk) 23:29, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Chlorine

Hi DePiep, can you please write your opinion here too :-) Thanks, --Alchemist-hp (talk) 21:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Main Page (2015 redesign)

Hi DePiep

I left a response to your comments on the 2015 redesign of the Wikipedia Main Page.

Regards, Ntmamgtw (talk) 02:57, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Libyan Airlines Flight 114

Hello. I just noted that you reinstated your removal. Can you please tell me where in the article is ″Great Bitter Lake″ mentioned? I don't see the connection to the material that was removed.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 01:20, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

GBL is where the plane was shot (see the coord map). Dimona is as far as Jerusalem or Tel Aviv: not a specific threat. -DePiep (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to insist, but there's no mention to that location in the article and it also does not mention any coordinates, apart from the ones that appear at the top, which are clearly unsourced.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 01:57, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, the coord are in top. IF needed, source them. All things cut short: there is no reason that Dimona would be specifically protected in this. It's just the whole of Israel. (Unless you want to claim & sourcve that the plane was shot down because of Dimona, but would be left alone when heading for Tel Aviv?). -DePiep (talk) 02:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

No, I have no sources for that. But the coordinates at top are unsourced, so I'm starting a thread about this at WT:AIRLINES. Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 02:22, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

To be clear: independent on the correctness & sourcing of the coordinates, you still could give the suggestion a base that it had to do with Dimona (not Isreal as a whole). -DePiep (talk) 12:43, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Drugbox request

Hi DePiep. If it's not too much to ask, would you mind replacing all drugbox instances of

| chirality = 1 : 1 mixture (racemate)

with

| chirality = [[Racemic mixture]]

The current wording is clearly redundant and a wikilink would be useful (and "1 : 1 mixture" is potentially ambiguous as well). Based on your recent edits, it seems like something you might be able to do more easily via AWB script than what I could do manually. Thank you. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:02, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Edgar181 Sure I can do that, using AWB and regex. But I would be working in the blind, because I hardly understand the whole chirality issue (always must click & read those links; see Drugbox talkpage a month ago about this). I'm glad I got it right & simple with |chirality=!

So I will do that, trusting your statement here. Are you sure the average Reader does not need extra text? -DePiep (talk) 21:20, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm sure that "[[Racemic mixture]]" is less redundant and less ambiguous than "1 : 1 mixture (racemate)" and therefore an improvement. I think that for someone not familiar with the term, anything that we could fit into the drugbox field would be an insufficient explanation and therefore the wikilink to the page that explains what a racemic mixture is is the appropriate assistance for the average reader that wants an explanation. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Will happen. The foremost improvement of internet over Gutenberg's printing (1450) is: the hyperlink. -DePiep (talk) 21:58, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:59, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

I add: quite often the bad text appears in the image caption parameter, not the chirality parameter. For now, I can not scan that input (that is, I can not check for |caption=1 : 1 mixture (racemate)). -DePiep (talk) 22:09, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, all those 1 : 1 mixture (racemate)'s were originally added into the image caption and I was happy to see that you had moved them to a more appropriate new parameter. I'll look for any remaining captions and fix them manually. Again, thanks for your help (and for all the other great work you have been doing with the drugbox and articles, too!) -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:58, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks :-) And yes, they were image-captions earlier on. -DePiep (talk) 13:03, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

• FYI Edgar181: all drugboxes having |chirality= input are now listed in Category:Infobox drug tracked parameters under "C". Once this category is stable, I'll run my AWB over this list (once more). -DePiep (talk) 19:49, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

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February 2016

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, you may be blocked from editing. You changed a section heading that directly referred to you (since you were being complained about at ANI), to make it refer to others instead. It is not your place to make a change such as this. Similarly, it was not your prerogative to repeatedly remove your already-replied-to comments, per WP:REDACT. Please stop doing that. LjL (talk) 02:50, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Then you stop licking trolls asses. And your ANI-admin-friends non-reasoning blind support. Deal?

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. LjL (talk) 03:49, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Note

DePiep, if you call Christian75 a troll again, I am going to block you for a week (due to a previous history of doing similar things). If you want to call me names instead, go ahead, and if someone complains, point them to this diff, where I give you permission to say literally anything you want to about me. But you're done calling Christian75 a troll. --Floquenbeam (talk) 04:19, 28 February 2016 (UTC)