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Gamergaters Elected Trump?

Just saw a news article that said that the opposition of Gamergate supporters to the media's bias, PC culture, and extreme lack of ethics helped get Trump elected. Whilst Gamergate was originally a movement about corruption in the gaming industry the same unethical behavior infects regular journalism so some supporters redirected their focus to bring integrity to the US election debate. Whilst CNN and other networks brazenly colluded with the DNC and Clinton’s campaign whilst attempting to control what their viewers thought, Gamergate supporters used memes and hashtags to fight back. Whether the article is valid, and whether it's appropriate to reference it here I've no clue but I thought I'd raise the point and see what others think. 人族 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:40, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful if you could link the article! Thanks. Dumuzid (talk) 12:16, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

comment just to keep this around a little longer ForbiddenRocky (talk) 20:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

possible refs moved from templates

I moved these from the template section of the headers

Mortensen, T. E. (2016). "Anger, Fear, and Games: The Long Event of #GamerGate". Games and Culture. doi:10.1177/1555412016640408. ISSN 1555-4120.

Jane, Emma A. (2016). "Online misogyny and feminist digilantism". Continuum. 30 (3): 284–297. doi:10.1080/10304312.2016.1166560. ISSN 1030-4312.

Lees, Matt (December 1, 2016). "What Gamergate should have taught us about the 'alt-right'". The Guardian. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 21:49, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No "Wikipedia" section?

Look at WashPo, Breitbart, Slate, Guardian, Adland, Think Progress, FrontPageMag, et al have mentioned this article due to controversy of the content itself. I don't see "Wikipedia" section. I want to add the section and use sources discussing the article itself. However, due to the nature of the topic, I must be cautious. Someone here can explain whether these sources are worth adding. --George Ho (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's worth exploring or even noting.--Jorm (talk) 19:32, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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