Talk:Gender role

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Some sections a bit one-sided

Just recently a large edit was done and added sections to the section Gender stereotypes. I have marked this section as "undue weight" because I think that while it is important to show that many studies indicate that women are underepresented in high positions and offices, they way that it is stated in this article now makes it seem as if all researchers agree that social gender roles cause this. This is not the case, however, and it would increase the quality if other views were also discussed. Inequality is important but the passage does not do a very good job at demonstrating that they are due to gender roles... and there is an seperate artivle on inequality so it would be more concise to just link to that and maybe move this content there (if it is ok with editors there).

Furthermore, the sections give a very US-centric view. Some of the claims made there are not valid in other Western nations where women do indeed participate in politics at high levels, do participate in higher education (for example in scandinavia where university students are 60% women etc). The section is also a bit underreffed because some of the refs are opinions and do not really support the claims as they appear in the text. I realize this is a bit of "nitpicking" but just saying that it would be significantly more interesting to read if these things were there. 88.195.243.29 (talk) 10:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Unless you can provide reliable sources (WP:Secondary or tertiary sources, to be exact) showing that what is stated in the "Consequences in the workplace" and "Consequences for political office" sections is not the general viewpoint, then your WP:Undue weight tags are unwarranted. One thing I should note is that it's common for most reliable sources on matters such as these to be "western" or U.S.-based because most of the literature on the topic is "western" or U.S.-based, and/or because editors do not have access to sources from other countries. If we look at Template:POV, it states, "This template should only be applied to articles that are reasonably believed to lack a neutral point of view. The neutral point of view is determined by the prevalence of a perspective in high-quality, independent, reliable secondary sources, not by its prevalence among Wikipedia editors or the public." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 09:07, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Source definition lead

The definition of gender roles in the beginning of the article needs sources to back up the information givenStewartB (talk) 23:09, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

StewartB, if the content is sourced lower in the article, it doesn't necessarily need to be sourced in the lead. See WP:CITELEAD. Also, I reverted you on this because it's a poor source. See WP:Reliable sources. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:40, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Recent edits

@Positivity99 and Alychap: Can you tell us if you're here as part of a class assignment? Some of your changes are good, some are decidedly less so. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:41, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

The recent edits by Alychap (talk · contribs) and Positivity99 (talk · contribs) are somewhat problematic and need to be reverted so that any good addition can be added appropriately. This edit, for example, includes WP:Synthesis when it states "Similarly, female superheros are more and more frequently being represented in live action films, such as in the Wonder Woman movie, premiering in 2017" and uses this imdb.com source for support. And this edit has poor formatting and poor sourcing. Per WP:BADHEAD, we should not create faux headings. And per WP:Reliable sources, the sources need to pass Wikipedia's standard of reliability. If I get no response about objecting to reverting these additions, I will revert. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:36, 24 April 2017 (UTC)