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Thanks for the warning [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]]. I didn't know the policy of Discr. Santions. However, in the relevant page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Appeals_and_modifications] it says "Pages relating to the Balkans (Macedonia)". Does it include all the Balkans (and Greece of course), or just Macedonia? If it means all the Balkans, I propose that all other users involved in the Arvanites and Souliotes articles, should be warned. The policy is not unidirectional, I suppose. If this is the case, to my understanding, they should not do reverts about Greeks without consensus . I am not expecting you to answer this question, as I bothered you enough already. I will see where can I brink this question. Cheers.--[[User:Skylax30|Skylax30]] ([[User talk:Skylax30#top|talk]]) 05:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC) |
Thanks for the warning [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]]. I didn't know the policy of Discr. Santions. However, in the relevant page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Appeals_and_modifications] it says "Pages relating to the Balkans (Macedonia)". Does it include all the Balkans (and Greece of course), or just Macedonia? If it means all the Balkans, I propose that all other users involved in the Arvanites and Souliotes articles, should be warned. The policy is not unidirectional, I suppose. If this is the case, to my understanding, they should not do reverts about Greeks without consensus . I am not expecting you to answer this question, as I bothered you enough already. I will see where can I brink this question. Cheers.--[[User:Skylax30|Skylax30]] ([[User talk:Skylax30#top|talk]]) 05:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:Per [[WP:ARBMAC]], "Topics related to the Balkans, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions." As regards notifying others, you are the one who is in trouble and [[WP:DR]] gives good advice. Another admin might have just gone ahead and blocked you without further ado, instead of issuing a warning. I did not notice anyone else whose warlike behavior put them at risk of a block. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 13:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC) |
:Per [[WP:ARBMAC]], "Topics related to the Balkans, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions." As regards notifying others, you are the one who is in trouble and [[WP:DR]] gives good advice. Another admin might have just gone ahead and blocked you without further ado, instead of issuing a warning. I did not notice anyone else whose warlike behavior put them at risk of a block. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 13:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::It looks like you have ignored my warning by going ahead with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Albanian_Regiment_(France)&diff=846144320&oldid=846142520 an edit about the Souliotes], even though in another article. Please explain why I shouldn't go ahead with a block of your account. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 17:13, 16 June 2018 (UTC) |
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I don't see anything about the article Souliotes.
Souliotes
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Can you stop those threatening-looking messages please? I am one of the editors and I am supposed to be part of the "concensus", if there is any. Of course I discuss everything. Go now to the discussion and explain please, what's the relation between Zagori and Souliotes. Thanks.
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αναφορά
Τον Μάιο, πρόσθέσες αυτή την αναφορά στο άρθρο Θεσσαλονίκη:
- Α.Ι. Θαβώρης, "Θεσσαλονίκη - Σαλονίκη. Η ιστορία του ονόματος της πόλης", στο "Η Θεσσαλονίκη", Κέντρο Ιστορίας Θεσσαλονίκης, Δήμος Θεσσ/νίκης, 1985, σ. 5-21.
Δεν έχω καταφέρει να βρω αντίγραφο. Μύπως θα μπορούσες να μου στείλεις κόπια; macrakis@gmail.com --Macrakis (talk) 17:04, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
ΟΚ. Νομίζω πως θυμάμαι πού βρήκα αυτό το βιβλίο. Βρίσκεσαι στη Βρετανία;--Skylax30 (talk) 17:11, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Τα έλαβες;--Skylax30 (talk) 18:03, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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. Swarm ♠ 23:23, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
User:Swarm, is it a common practice in WP to block someone for unclear reasons, such as "personal attacks" without links to the event(s), and for a non-defined period? Thanks for the answers. I would have some questions for possible personal communications of the admin with certain users of greek WP, but these are probably confidential.--Skylax30 (talk) 09:45, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- Checking your block log [2], you were blocked for 48 hours. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:04, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks User:Beyond My Ken.--Skylax30 (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- If you truly don't know why you were blocked, then there's a serious competence issue for which you will most likely end up blocked indefinitely. It should be extremely obvious that you were blocked pursuant to the ANI report for personal attacks. The links were provided there, and petty procedural objections such as me not providing you links are not valid, as you were aware of the report. Also, I know full well that your block log shows up when you try to edit while blocked, so you had the information as to when the block would expire. It's either completely disingenuous or completely incompetent to claim that you did not know how long the block was, because that information is always available even if we don't include it in the blocking template. Swarm ♠ 18:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
May 2018
Your recent editing history at Turkish Cypriots shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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Thanks for the message User talk:Moxy. I was the one who added the sourced text that Tzeronymo is deleting. I suppose you checked the sources. Discussion and concensus is always welcomed, provided that there is good faith on both parties. Anfortunatelly, this is not the case with Tzeronymo. First he asked for "back-up" by sending message to a turkish-speaking user, and after they congratulated each-other for the "good job" [3], Tzeronymo was claiming that his position is a "concensus" and, therefore, he can constantly delete the text. The assisting user is supporting his opinion by citing an irrelevant article in an obscure turkish-cypriot blog, plus some personal unintelligible arguments. I believe you are an old user, and you know that we don't need concensus to expand an article with a text that is very relevant and well-sourced with academic sources. Otherwise, the articles could be written after voting. If however, the Tzeronymo's part is insisting that this text should not be in the article, THEY have to take the case to Disp. Resolution. --Skylax30 (talk) 18:55, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
June 2018
Hello, I'm Jingiby. I noticed that you recently removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Jingiby (talk) 06:26, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
OK, I will explain in the discussion. Symmetrically, if someone wants to include this content, he is expected to explain the reason. Thanks. --Skylax30 (talk) 06:35, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
June 15
Mporeis na apeuthinthis stoys stewards tis wikipedia an theoris ypervoliki i adiki tin fragi stin elwiki, yparxei kai to globalcommunity tis wiki episis an thelis na thesis tetoia zitimata, h elkoinotita den einai i anoteri arxi, ostoso prepei na stirixis tin thesi soy me epixeirimata, oi prosvoles poy eipes den tha se voithisoyn alla nomizo oti h epivoli tis fragis 3 minon os ekdikitiki gia tin sigkekrimeni periptosi kai i omadiki stoxopoiisi apo xristes poy xrisimopoioyn analogoys xaraktirismoys mporei na apodeixtei. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4F9:2A:166B:2:0:0:3 (talk) 07:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Efcharisto, alla den kaigomai na grapso stin ellinikh WP. --Skylax30 (talk) 09:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Άλλωστε, όπου κι αν πας η Ελλάδα σε πληγώνει [4].--Skylax30 (talk) 10:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Reported here. Ktrimi991 (talk) 10:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Souliotes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Arvanites (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
You've been reported for edit warring at WP:AN3. Can you reply and explain why you should not be blocked? I also notice you are currently blocked on the Greek Wikipedia. Any offer to negotiate, or proposals to use WP:DRN or WP:RFC would be welcome. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks EdJohnston. I suppose I can explain here, no? Actually I didn't understand that I violated the 3RR. If it is true, it happened while I was adding text and sources in the article while others kept on deleting. To be honest, I don't quite understand how this rule works. However, if I really violated the rule, I will not waste anybody's time with excuses. Formalities aside, the point is that 3 or 4 users are protecting a particular (pro-Albanian) POV in the article and prevent its development. As far as the Greek WP case, I was blocked for 3 months, which is a far too long block, for allegedly "annoying" a user, and on accusations that are obviously wrong for anyone who can read Greek. I complained to the administrator, and he did not reply. I don't want to bother you with more explanations, but the "hot" topic was that a typical leftist polemic language and insults against the Church was included in an article, and the "sources" were a user's interpretation of certain leftist sites. I expressed my opinion that I was blocked for political reasons, and nobody bothered to reply or to see the case. Do you mean that I can use WP:RFC or DRN for the case of the Greek WP?--Skylax30 (talk) 21:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- EdJohnston Though I haven't examined the 3rr issue, I don't find this summary of the dispute by Skylax to be accurate, having been tangentially involved myself. He is right that this is a Greek-Albanian issue. However, on those two pages I saw Skylax reverted by at least 6 users (myself, Resnj., Ktrimi, Tzeronimo, Jingiby and Fut Perfect). While an uncharitable view seen above might accuse all six of "protecting" some Albanist POV, the fact is that Skylax added WP:SYNTH using sources that didn't appear to mention Souliotes, the article topic. Well if he is willing to srv, abide by rules including avoiding and assume good faith, I hope he will do so, in the spirit of cooperation. Its not impossible that he could in the future make useful contributions to the topic areas of Souliotes and Arvanites, but the behaviors that led to this need to change.---- Calthinus (talk) 22:32, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hello Skylax30. You've been warned per the result of the AN3 complaint. You may be blocked if you make any further reverts about people of Albanian descent (such as Souliotes and Arvanites) unless you have received a prior consensus in your favor on the talk page. Consider using the standard methods of dispute resolution. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 01:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning EdJohnston. I didn't know the policy of Discr. Santions. However, in the relevant page [5] it says "Pages relating to the Balkans (Macedonia)". Does it include all the Balkans (and Greece of course), or just Macedonia? If it means all the Balkans, I propose that all other users involved in the Arvanites and Souliotes articles, should be warned. The policy is not unidirectional, I suppose. If this is the case, to my understanding, they should not do reverts about Greeks without consensus . I am not expecting you to answer this question, as I bothered you enough already. I will see where can I brink this question. Cheers.--Skylax30 (talk) 05:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Per WP:ARBMAC, "Topics related to the Balkans, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions." As regards notifying others, you are the one who is in trouble and WP:DR gives good advice. Another admin might have just gone ahead and blocked you without further ado, instead of issuing a warning. I did not notice anyone else whose warlike behavior put them at risk of a block. EdJohnston (talk) 13:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like you have ignored my warning by going ahead with an edit about the Souliotes, even though in another article. Please explain why I shouldn't go ahead with a block of your account. EdJohnston (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Reminder
Please carefully read this information:
The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding the Balkans, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you that sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.Template:Z33 --NeilN talk to me 16:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Skylax30: regarding your question on NeilN's talk page: the Ds Alert that NeilN left you here already contains a link with the answers to your questions. To repeat: that decision is here. Quoting from it: The area of conflict in this case shall therefore be considered to be the entire set of Balkan-related articles, broadly interpreted. For the context of that statement, see section #Findings of fact. I hope that answers your question. Mathglot (talk) 06:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
That was great. Thanks.--Skylax30 (talk) 06:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)