User talk:Sitush

Jag är Ikea. This user stands with Sweden. Je suis Ikea.

... or panic madly and freak out?

Have you come here to rant at me? It is water off a duck's back.

Indian Govt Gazeteers

Hi All(Sorry I did not know where else to post this message except on Sitush's page). If I remember correctly, govt of India gazetteers are not reliable sources for opinions on caste issues (since they are often heavily politicized and plagiarized by govt employees who are not historians). I remember some discussion on this but cannot find a link. Am I mistaken? Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 10:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

part of Nadeem-Shravan

What is it?Xx236 (talk) 11:42, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

No idea what you are referring to, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 11:50, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

SaifiXx236 (talk) 11:53, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea. Feel free to remove it but I suggest that you check the linked article first to see if that provides an explanation. - Sitush (talk) 11:56, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Your recent vandalism

This is loopy trolling: claims I have reverted them but says they have never edited the article. WP:DENY. - Sitush (talk) 07:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

It is fairly obvious that you and that other editor User:Ramesh8888 have conspired and colluded to revert my stable edits to 2011 Indian anti-corruption movement under cover of some non-existent edit war. WP:BRD is not an official policy and I don't intend to abide by what is admittedly a practice simply because you say so. The WP:BURDEN is always on you to justify the merits of why you undid all my edits without discussion. 06:55, 4 October 2018 (UTC) Bollocks. All I have done recently is revert Ramesh8888. This sort of inane, crazily obfuscated accusation is typical of the stuff that people listed on WP:LTA/IAC used to do. I have no idea who you are but, yes, it would seem that you are not new to Wikipedia and thus have edited the article under some other IP address or account in the past. Could you please indicate where/when that was if you wish me to consider the position at the time of your "stable edits". - Sitush (talk) 07:01, 4 October 2018 (UTC) This diff show that you reverted all my stable edits recently without any explanation to me. For the rest of it, you seem to be sick. Get well soon.103.30.142.163 (talk) 07:38, 4 October 2018 (UTC) Sitush, WP:DENY. Abecedare (talk) 07:40, 4 October 2018 (UTC) FWIW I have never edited that article in the past. WP:PROVEIT. 103.30.142.163 (talk) 07:44, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Bind caste

अरे भाई ये बिन्द कास्ट में चाई या चटाई क्यों लिख रहे हो

बिन्द जाति को केवट /निषाद के रुप में जाना जाता है

आदरणीय भाई साहब कृपया करके इसे संशोधित करे

धनंजय बिन्द (talk) 08:31, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Please use English everywhere in the English Wikipedia. Bishonen | talk 09:16, 6 October 2018 (UTC).

I agree with Bishonen but on this occasion I think I have worked out what is being said using Google Translate. The reason why Chai etc are being shown as synonyms at Bind (caste) is because that is what is said in the source that is cited there. Please see the information at WP:V. - Sitush (talk) 10:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Grand ideas....

• You might wish to see (and chime in) at this t/p thread.I was planning to leave a note, as to the amount of potential disruption, it can unfurl in the volatile scenario of Indian castes and communities, with every POV pusher trying to exploit the to-be-added arguments but later decided upon you, as one who can hit the nail on the head, much more precisely:-) Also if my memory serves correctly, you have aired your views on this particular locus, previously.
• P.S.--For a particularly interesting example, you might wish to see this, a piece of work that was vetted by a bunch of WIR regulars (the major-editor of the article seems to be the most devoted to pushing across the changes over the afore-mentioned thread) as sufficiently passing the notability guidelines and later, my nomination which got me branded as a vindictive stalker gathered the sole contrarian !votes from the chamber, itself.Frankly, I am half-inclined to keep a copy of the to-be-deleted article in my user-space, as an example of acute reference-spamming
• P.P.S--As to Namasudra, I've got hold of the three remaining chapters of Sekhar's book and will add the final bunch of content, by tomorrow.Pending that, I will indulge in tidying the overall article and copy-editing to establish a coherent and smooth reading experience.I have scanned chapters of every book, (that has been used) and shall you need it, please drop an email;-)∯WBG^converse 18:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

What? The entire thread that queries white male perspective etc? It's probably the usual stuff, ie: some people who have a hobbyhorse and struggle to get it through the finish line so suggest that we should change the policies so that they succeed. Next thing we know, Mr and Mrs Bloggs, their cousin third removed and her cat will all have articles and the entire project will implode. I'll try to read it but my concentration isn't great today. - Sitush (talk) 18:45, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

not you, the other guy

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

All done, I see. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 07:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

A now blocked editor pinged me requesting me to 'deal with you' see here. They perhaps don't know that you are one of my favourite Wikipedia editors. Thanks. Jakichandan (talk) 08:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, it's nice to know that someone appreciates me! They had some agenda relating to Bihar going on that I do not understand. That said, I am not always right and you should speak up whenever you think I am wrong. - Sitush (talk) 08:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of C. Anbarasan

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A tag has been placed on C. Anbarasan requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, a group of people, an individual animal, an organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content, or an organized event that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Wow. And it got deleted, despite him being a Tamil Nadu MLA and the article saying such, with sources. Must be a mistake. - Sitush (talk) 18:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I've undeleted it, it's beyond belief that this would be tagged A7, and then deleted! —SpacemanSpiff 18:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. The tagging was wrong, as I have explained to the tagger, but the deletion was well weird. - Sitush (talk) 18:31, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

It was a serious mistake on my part to tag a Tamil Nadu MLA for proposed deletion under A7. I confused "notability" with "importance". Sorry for my behavior and for unnecessary waste of time. I hope that both of you will forgive my naivety. Suman chowdhury 22 (talk) 07:14, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

No worries. It is a common mistake. I was more surprised that the admin actually deleted the thing because, well, they should know better. Perhaps they were tired or something. - Sitush (talk) 07:55, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

New watchlist design - slow?

Is it just me or have things really slowed down when watchlists load since the new look was introduced? I am finding it very frustrating and keep misclicking things, thinking that it has fully loaded and then discovering that it has not. Is there a way to switch to the old interface or summat? - Sitush (talk) 08:03, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Under Preferences -> Watchlist -> opt out of improvements, click on the box next to "Hide the improved version of the Watchlist". Nikkimaria (talk) 13:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for that. I have done as you said and will see how things go. - Sitush (talk) 13:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

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History of Mithila Region

Please take a look at the recent edits to the History of Mithila Region page. Thanks.—Jakichandan (talk) 09:09, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Gahlot

Gahlots are one of the many groups of Rajputs, but they are different from the Guhils or Guhilots of Mewar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.215.123.235 (talk) 13:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

I have opened a discussion at Talk:Gahlot. That is the best place to get your message across. - Sitush (talk) 14:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Bhonsle

Hey Sitush et alia, this article still has one of those homemade infoboxes. Can you stick in the proper one? You can do in two minutes what would take me twenty. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Not sure about me being any quicker - I dislike infoboxes and doubt I've ever set one up. But I'll do a copy/paste job. - Sitush (talk) 15:15, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Oiniwar Dynasty

Hi Sitush Why are you removing other references from Oiniwar dynasty . I see you have removed Geneome Mapping , SN Singh History of Tirhut , Recasting the Brahmin in Medieval Mithila: Origins of Caste Identity among the Maithil Brahmins of North Bihar by Anshuman Pandey

You have made the page dependent on only one book thats not Ideal . Please revert your changes and use the authentic reference like History of Tirhut etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:500B:164B:B961:E230:6CED:C38A (talk) 11:51, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

The explanations will be in my edit summaries or in the recent discussions on the article talk page, which is where this conversation should be taking place. - Sitush (talk) 11:57, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

As an example, see the summary for this edit. - Sitush (talk) 12:11, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

• THat's Burbak up there, Jakichandan can you check where else there's been contribution/disruption? —SpacemanSpiff 13:22, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

@SpacemanSpiff: Please take a look at 2409:4064:386:7414:0:0:19E3:A8AD (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Thanks.—Jakichandan (talk) 13:27, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

2405:204:C004:BA24:0:0:C58:18A5 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) also. Thanks. —Jakichandan (talk) 13:30, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

2409:4064:40C:A8D3:0:0:2A05:E8A0 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) too. MADHEPURA2018 also seems to be linked. Thanks.—Jakichandan (talk) 13:37, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

2001:630:E4:42E0:150B:FFB1:6C:E22E (talk · contribs · WHOIS) may also be. Thanks.—Jakichandan (talk) 13:41, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Ah, is this the Bihari nationalist thing? MADEHEPURA2018 was indef blocked for constant disruption and claims of racism. NB: Damien2016 was a self-admitted sock of Burbak (long since blocked). I know that there has been a lot of problems relating to Maithila stuff but never made the connection. How much crap have they got away with? - Sitush (talk) 15:22, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Is this "Jha, Makhan (1997). Anthropology of Ancient Hindu Kingdoms: A Study in Civilizational Perspective. M.D. Publications Pvt. Ltd." even remotely reliable? The article leans a lot on that one reference. --regentspark (comment) 15:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

And is Suyasham, the creator of the article, possibly related to MADEHEPURA2018?--regentspark (comment) 15:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Makhan is very poor. I've said so in my edit summaries and at Talk:Oiniwar Dynasty. I' now cleaning out Gajendra Thakur which is just fancruft. There are masses of this type of thing in the Maithili topic area. - Sitush (talk) 15:48, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sitush and RegentsPark: Jha might not be highly reliable but he is reliable to a certain extent. Some other authors also seem to cite his books in their own books. For example this. Thanks.—Jakichandan (talk) 15:59, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Also Burbak sockfarm seems to be related with Mithila regionalism, on the other hand, MADHEPURA2018 seems to be pushing Bihar regionalism (i.e. pushing POV on both Mithila and Magadha related articles). Thanks.—Jakichandan (talk) 16:08, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Why more Wikiquote?

Has anyone got any idea why we suddenly seem to be getting more links inserted to Wikiquote? When I click through, they usually turn out to be utterly random commentary/opinion and mostly about rather than by. Or is it just me? - Sitush (talk) 06:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Regarding removing of names

Hi Sitush, what's your problem. Why are you removing names from List of Deshastha Brahmins - MRRaja001 (talk) - 8:09 AM Monday, 15 October 2018 (UTC) MRRaja001 (talk) 08:10, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

See the talk page. - Sitush (talk) 08:11, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Regarding removing of names

Hi Sitush, what is the problem. I undo the Sudhanoti District Notable people some name deleted why I Know people name he was the great people in Sudhanoti District — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sardar Jay Khan (talk • contribs) 13:39, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

See the talk page. - Sitush (talk) 14:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

your msg.

I have seen what you have written about me on my page. I must remind you that certain pages such as Charan today exist because the most of the sources have been provided by me. And you tried your level best not to allow them to exist though you are neither a scholar on the subject nor you belong to the culture. All your action are prejudiced and you are actually removed them without even thoroughly examining them. And you are actually misusing your ppwers as Administrator. I will not spare you. And I will provide all the authentic sourcea as I have done in the past. I will also make sure that you get removed from the priviledges you enjoy as wiki admin since you dont deserve to be the one. Give me some time and then I will sue you. Lalit Jugtawat (talk) 14:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I am not an admin, and threatening to sue is just going to get you blocked per WP:NLT. - Sitush (talk) 14:30, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I am not afraid of getting blocked for writing the truth and exposing people like you who misuse their powers. If you are a genuine person why dont you reveal your identity. So that I can send you a legal notice. But since you very well know that it is not possible you are again misusing it as an excuse to get me blocked. I will take up the matter before the other administrators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lalit Jugtawat (talk • contribs) 14:38, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) User is blocked. — LeoFrank  ^Talk 14:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. They've had a fair few warnings in the past but seem not to be understanding. - Sitush (talk) 14:51, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Your Gurjar Pratihar confusion

Just search in google -

"gurjar samrat mihir bhoj PARK"

And

"gurjar samrat mihir bhoj MARG"

Its in Delhi and Noida that clearly states Gurjar-Prathihar empire relates to Gujjar \ Gurjar tribe only, and the empire king Mihir Bhoj was Gujjar.

work on ground level my dear.

Just writing a book does not create a history. It is mentioned all over the stones and stuff found from the historcal sites.

That is why govt of india / delhi and uttar pradesh Noida made the Park and Marg (Highway) on Gurjar Tribe name.

And stop creating myth or confusion over web, because on ground level it is clear.

If still you have any doubt, then let me know why Indian Govt made that PARK and MARG on Gurjar Tribe name ?? MaverickDelhi (talk) 14:30, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

On Wikipedia we work off reliable sources, which generally means books and other published material. But not all sources are reliable, eg: ancient inscriptions are primary sources and have limited use. The issue of the G-P origins has been discussed in depth in modern reliable academic works etc, who are doubtless familiar with the inscriptions and will have included them in their assessment of what happened way back then. You cannot discount such sources just because your interpretation of the veracity and meaning of the inscriptions differs. - Sitush (talk) 14:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Dhusia

Could you weigh in on the blanking in Dhusia earlier today, please? Sam Sailor 14:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Done. - Sitush (talk) 15:12, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Re: Yashpal

No edit war!, just some comments/questions.

1.) Notable? Vidyalankar appears to be relevant to the article, so what more is required?

2.) Frustrated? Anyone who clicks on that link should know it's interlanguage. They should also know, or be able to guess, that "hi" stands for Hindi, and translation is very simple and easy. Why is Hindi different than, say, Spanish, German or Russian?

3.) Poor article? I don't know Hindi, but I did translate it and, you're right, it's not a very good article...but since when did an article need to be judged worthy of having a link? Maybe that will help encourage someone to improve it. (you?)

Oh, and my sympathies. I'm truly sorry to hear that Hindi Wikipedia has such low standards. WQUlrich (talk) 19:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

There are doubts about notabilty, translation is not easy for many, inter-language links are arcane for non-Wikipedia editors, and I never said Hindi was different to Spanish etc, just that the Hindi Wikipedia standards are different to ours. And that is why not all inter-language links are worthy. I've fixed the problem in the more traditional way, ie: doing some research. We have to think of the readers, not the contributors.

And that you have replied here says it all, really, rather than at the article talk. You're not thinking it through. - Sitush (talk) 19:42, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I replied here because you left a message on my talk page. Duh. WQUlrich (talk) 19:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

The message was to let you know of the thread on the article talk and the note at WT:INB. In any event, most people keep user talk page threads in one place, so if I start at your page then you reply there. Duh. - Sitush (talk) 20:11, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

And doing this now doesn't help, {{|WQUlrich}}, does it? In fact, it seems pointy. - Sitush (talk) 20:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

WQUlrich - fix ping. - Sitush (talk) 20:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

That wasn't me. I don't edit anonymously or from a cell phone. WQUlrich (talk) 18:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Dummy edit

For obvious reasons. Vanamonde (talk) 03:16, 16 October 2018 (UTC)