User talk:6YearsTillRetirement

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My revert

I reverted you because going by your username and the fact that you have only 11 edits I assumed this account was a throwaway of a blocked user or a troll. I apologize if this is not the case.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:16, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Pawnkingthree: I understand. No harm done. Thank you for the polite followup :) Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 14:18, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Pawnkingthree: Well apparently someone decided my attempt to follow the processes listed on wikipedia counts as "vandalism" and deleted the request page so that is just sad. :( Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 14:25, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

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Other accounts

The question raised at AFD is valid, it is odd that you kept straight in at AFD. Do you (or have you even had) another account?Slatersteven (talk) 17:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

I was asked to make an account. I didn't want to but it was required to start the one on the page when I saw it and realized how long it had waited without sourcing or notability. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 17:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

OK I shall rephrase, I take it for the above you have edited as an IP before?Slatersteven (talk) 17:58, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Sandbox

Sorry I have no access to such information. You will have to speak to the Admin that did the delete, or recreate. Koncorde (talk) 18:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Koncorde:I would prefer to have someone else to pass the request given that the deleting admin seems very touchy and aggressive and marked my attempt to follow procedure as being vandalism, which I do not consider it to be. But if you do not feel comfortable with that I understand. Also would it be appropriate for me to place the Template:Canvassed markers with the commenters known to have been canvassed into the AfD discussion or should that be requested to be done by someone else? I defer to your judgement on this. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 23:26, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

I can ask the admin, but without knowing what was on that page to warrant it being deleted I am obviously wary of doing so (as much as I would like to take your word for it!). And as for canvassed tags, I would leave it. The discussion is burning down now. An admin will review and take into consideration all evidence and there are several experienced admin / editors on that article already. Koncorde (talk) 23:41, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Koncorde:I am fine with someone reviewing what was on the page and telling me what warranted it being deleted if that is needed. I would rather know instead of having to guess what it was. I had included a copy and paste of Uncle G's initial post from the ANI discussion and then had added notes on how specific accounts matched the pattern Uncle G describes of the accounts by the Trasel, accounts like User:KLoWnTaZ as described by Cullen [1]. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 23:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about it then. Action has been taken, and the other SPA were as much victims as anyone else. Being used as shills by someone for their own sense of grandiosity. I doubt any further action will be taken against the other accounts at this point due to their low edit amounts etc barring them actually committing some egregious error on Wikipedia itself (such as calling everyone wankers). Koncorde (talk) 23:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Alright. I will take your advice and let it be then. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 00:00, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you @Koncorde: but there appears to be more and I don't know how it would best be addressed at this point. More canvassed people, more hate on his facebook page. [2], [3], [4], [5] and a legal threat [6]. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 02:08, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Again, I wouldn't worry and would pass this information directly to Doug Weller or one of the other admin in the main discussion and let them decide if further action is required. We know there is canvassing, we know Mike is pulling strings off Wikipedia. None of this is really new. Koncorde (talk) 07:55, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I have passed the information to Doug Weller. Thank you again. Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 12:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Template:Z12

Your account has been blocked from editing Wikipedia with this username. This is because your username, 6YearsTillRetirement, suggests disruptive intent.

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

6YearsTillRetirement (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Would it not have been more polite to simply suggest a username change first? I will make the request.

Decline reason:

You forgot to pick a new username. The above instructions explain how. You also need to address the concern your account name suggests disruptive intent. Yamla (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

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This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

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Requested username:

6YearsTillRetirement (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Accept reason:

Renamed. won't try to understand all this. sorry for the inconvenience.   Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:04, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@Yamla: I do not know how I am supposed to address your question, you can see above and in my edits that I am asking for advice from experienced editors and trying to follow the policies and not be disruptive. Had I been politely asked to request a user name change I would have done it as soon I was informed. @Koncorde: was this a concern I needed to know about? Imadethisstupidaccount (talk) 18:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I have renamed you. Another admin will review your unblock request. --Yamla (talk) 18:50, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I will try to be patient. I know it is not your fault but it feels like someone listed me as a form of retaliation or bullying. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 19:17, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Also @Yamla: if you feel like it please feel free to delete that sandbox page, @Koncorde: suggested using it but then it turned out to not needed. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 19:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Err, I mean it could be seen as disruptive in some way because it's somewhat facetious or snarky - but I have never seen an account blocked for something so innocuous a "joke". I personally think as you have been editing / contributing mostly at talks and group pages it may have popped up on someone's radar somehow. I wouldn't worry about it, so long as it's resolved now. Koncorde (talk) 20:13, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@Koncorde: well now I have someone accusing me of leaving bogus signatures. This is really frustrating. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 04:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Suggest you relax. Easy to make mistakes in active discussions if you click reply before checking User ID's. Koncorde (talk) 14:37, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Seriously, per above and below, calm down and relax. Make your vote. State your case per policy. Leave others to stake their own claims. Let them have their conspiracy of thought. You are liable to be identified as an SPA, and be seen as a disruptive influence by a passing admin if you continue to argue and or engage with others (regardless of who starts it) if it is perceived not to be WP:CIVIL. Koncorde (talk) 16:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

outing

Your latest edit to the Kratman deletion page looks like outing. If a user does not say a YouTube page is theirs (here) we cannot say oit is because someone says it is.Slatersteven (talk) 16:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

protection policy

Hi, I noticed you mentioning requesting protection for several articles based on potential vandalism concerns due to off-wiki comments. I just wanted to let you know that page protection isn't applied preemptively, only in response to actual vandalism/edit-warring. You can read more about it at WP:SEMI. Schazjmd (talk) 16:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, 6YearsTillRetirement,

You have had a rocky beginning here. An unfortunate editor name choice raised suspicions that you were a blocked editor who was returning to cause trouble with a sockpuppet account. Persistent comments at an AfD also might make some editors think that you are a SPA, Single Purpose Account, who is not here to contribute to the general project. It's not possible to start anew but if you want some unasked for advice, it would be to spend some of your time not involving yourself in issues under dispute but instead on some general editing of articles.

There are over 6 million articles here and most of them could use some help....copyediting, a better reference for some claim, bad writing can be improved. If you spend more time on improving articles and less on article deletion discussions or noticeboards, you will be seen as a worthwhile addition and good contributor which will not only result in some improved articles but you will find that the heat has been taken off of you.

There is an endless amount of work to do around here and we are always in need of help and new editors to get to work. Please rethink where you choose to spend your time and instead think of where you can make the biggest contribution. And if you have any specific questions about editing, I highly recommend the Teahouse which was invaluable to me when I stopped editing as an IP and created a user account 6 years ago. Good luck! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:27, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

This is why Wikipedia isn't worth it. Classic abuser good cop / bad cop behavior. Come back and they will just do this over and over again, be rude as crap to you and then send someone like liz to reel you back in until they are tired of abusing you. Want my advice? Stay gone.

@Liz: I don't know what you are really trying to tell me by your comment. After being threatened and the names I've been called, the repeated accusations of bad faith and false accusations that I was somehow targeting conservative authors (UNTRUE)[7], and even having someone call my workplace thinking that they were going to get somewhere harassing me in my personal life, I don't think Wikipedia's admins did enough to safeguard their community and I don't think half of them even care about it. 6YearsTillRetirement (talk) 04:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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