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Merger proposal

Proposal

Merge Turkic migration into Turkic peoples; basically the same topics, with the same info. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Support - per above. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - The sections on history in Turkic peoples and Turkic migration are fairly similar, however Turkic migration deals with one specific phenomenon; the migration of Turks over time from their ancestral lands (West Mongolia), into the lands they currently live in (Central and West Asia). I don't believe they should be merged, instead if necessary, trim down the history section on Turkic peoples, and expand the Turkic migration page, perhaps including a bit on the history of the pre-Turkic natives of the lands the Turks settled in. --Qahramani44 (talk) 18:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, who's going to do the job, then? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - as per Qahramani44, migration warrants it's own article, whereas Turkic peoples should, imho, be an overview article. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 10:13, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support - per Joshua Jonathan, but it has to be noted that also in the Turkic people article we should also outline which people are of proven Turkic origin and in which case it is just one of the many assumptions, without clear evidence, and according to that proportion to expand or shorten per WP:DUE.(KIENGIR (talk) 17:36, 27 May 2019 (UTC))[reply]

* Support - per Joshua Jonathan. Turkic migration article is short and mostly whitout references, it will be more value on turkic peoples page and there you can rewrite and put ref on, I also support KIENGIR´s idea MeLoveGames (talk) 15:58, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above user was a sockpuppet. --Wario-Man (talk) 09:06, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Qahramani44. The fact that the Turkics spread so far and so fast seemingly out of nowhere has made their migration itself a popular scholarly subject. This is not unprecedented; it's the same thing with Indo-Europeans, the Bantu peoples, the Germanic peoples, Vikings, etc.. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 06:47, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Turkic people are not only a collective when it's about the trnasmission from nomad folks to settlements. They also share a geographic history, linguistic history, common ethnic features, etc. That's why this article is needed. There is even room to broaden the article. TheGroninger (talk) 21:36, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note - I have removed the bar above the article since it's there for almost a year. It also doesn't seem like there is a majority or funded support for the proposal of Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk!. Feel free to add it again if it is shown useful. TheGroninger (talk) 21:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to change a sentence "The first known mention of the term Turk (Old Turkic: 𐰰𐰼𐰇𐱅‎ Türük, 𐰰𐰼𐰇𐱅‎:𐰜𐰇𐰛 Kök Türük or 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚‎ Türk; meaning "origin")[33][34][35][36] applied to a Turkic group was in reference to the Göktürks in the 6th century."

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"The first known mention of the term Turk (Old Turkic: 𐰰𐰼𐰇𐱅‎ Türük, 𐰰𐰼𐰇𐱅‎:𐰜𐰇𐰛 Kök Türük or 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰚‎ Türk; meaning "origin")[34] was in reference to the Göktürks in the Khüis Tolgoi inscription probably not later than 587 AD (https://www.academia.edu/39809819/Groping_in_the_Dark_The_First_Attempt_to_Interpret_the_Bugut_Br%C4%81hm%C4%AB_Inscription)." RavenKhar (talk) 18:32, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Partially added, Changed probably to most-likely! JAZHAZHANDZWIKI (talk) 19:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Joshua Jonathan: The map you restored here is problematic. The image is also tagged for being inaccurate on Wiki Commons and I am not the only editor who has been cautioning against using this map. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 14:11, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aman Kumar Goel: thanks; I see. Regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 17:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This was removed due to sockpuppetry, but I think if the content pass as reliable, we better restore them. @Erminwin, Queenplz, and Steve Quinn: Your opinion? --Wario-Man (talk) 03:56, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Wario-Man: I'm OK with restoring the content. I think it is a good idea. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Wario-Man: Agreed. Erminwin (talk) 03:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkic_peoples&diff=951502155&oldid=950856494 This] was removed due to sockpuppetry, but I think if the content pass as reliable, we better restore them. {{Ping|Erminwin|Queenplz|Steve Quinn}} Your opinion? --[[User:Wario-Man|Wario-Man]] ([[User talk:Wario-Man|talk]]) 03:56, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 :{{re|Wario-Man}} I'm OK with restoring the content. I think it is a good idea. ---[[User:Steve Quinn|Steve Quinn]] ([[User talk:Steve Quinn|talk]]) 23:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
+:{{re|Wario-Man}} Agreed. [[User:Erminwin|Erminwin]] ([[User talk:Erminwin|talk]]) 03:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)