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I will at the weekend.  — AARONTALK 09:34, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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I have done the review now  — AARONTALK 15:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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Well done on getting House of Plantagenet to GA.--SabreBD (talk) 19:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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Well done for working hard to make House of Plantagenet to Good Article Status :-).  — AARONTALK 11:09, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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It took longer than 7 days......Sorry. Good work. Thank you.--Mark Miller (talk) 13:15, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

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Crusades[edit]

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House of Plantagenet[edit]

I left a comment at the article's PR. Looks very nice, good job! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Congratulations![edit]

G'day Norfolkbigfish. Your nomination of House of Lancaster has been approved as a WikiProject Military History A-Class article. Congratulations on what I believe is your first one! On behalf of the MILHIST Coordinators, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 23:30, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

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Angevins vs. Plantagenet[edit]

In line with your addition of 'Angevins' to the Royal Houses of Europe template, perhaps the infoboxs on Richard the Lionheart, John, Henry II etc need to be updated. At the moment they give their royal house as 'House of Plantagenet'. I'm unsure if some would consider this contentious or not - maybe some consensus should be sought on the House of Plantagenet talk page? I'm not exactly in the know about the subject, so it may just be a case of being bold and going for it. Sotakeit (talk) 13:13, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Willing to be brave on this one, but the whole question has been very contentious in the past! :-) Norfolkbigfish (talk) 14:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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Royal intermarriage GA nomination[edit]

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DYK for Angevins[edit]

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Angevins[edit]


Disambiguation help needed for Angevin[edit]

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Question[edit]

Do you still want me to copy edit House of Plantagenet, or are you getting a bit impatient? I prefer to take my time when copy editing, to ensure that I do not make rushed decisions, but some others can copy edit much faster than I can. I'm still more than willing to do it, since that is a very interesting subject to me, but I don't want to delay your FAC longer than I have to... --Biblioworm 14:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Biblioworm:—I am happy with what you have done to date (although I occasionally raise an eyebrow at some of the edits). It looks great and would appreciate it if you completed it to the same high standard. So my answer is yes, please. I can wait, if we are going to get this right. What would be good would be if you could give a rough estimate of when you might complete the edit based on what you have learned to date and the amount of text to go? Thanks for everything so far, regards Norfolkbigfish (talk) 10:31, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi again, Norfolk. Unfortunately, I am unable to continue copy editing this article. Please see the note that I left on the GOCE requests page. Regards, --Biblioworm 02:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Copy edited House of Plantagenet[edit]

Hi Norfolkbigfish. I've finished the copy edit you requested. Sorry again that it took so long. I'll keep it on my watch list for now. There are some comments and questions on the talk page. One point: several names are linked many times. As the article uses so many names, I think this helps to avoid confusion, so I haven't removed any (or not many), but this might be questioned at FAC. I'm not sure. Kind regards, --Stfg (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

GOCE Request: Owen Tudor[edit]

I have finished editing the Owen Tudor page, as per your GOCE request for it to be copy edited. A few comments:

  • At the end of the Background section you included the phrase "and to the end of that predominance." I could not figure out its place in the sentence, so I removed it. Feel free to add it back in.
  • Clarify the phrases "Welshmen secured positions at the court," "steward of the king's court," "the liaison prompted," and "with a position in court". Whose court? Which king? What liaison? Which court?
  • At the end of the Early Life section you included the phrase "to serve in France." I could not figure out its place in the sentence, so I removed it. Feel free to add it back in.
  • In relation to Tudor's son, Jasper, you wrote that he "was attainted as a traitor in 1461." In the presence of the typo I assume you had meant to say something along the lines of "was branded as a traitor in 1461." If I distorted the meaning, feel free to change it.
  • Clarify the meaning of "protection from the statute on dowager queen's remarriage". It would probably be best to elaborate on this concept where the statue is initially discussed, in the Catherine of Valois section.
  • I removed the sentences about the family of Margaret, wife of Tudur Fychan, as it is not relevant to how Owen Tudor descends from Rhys ap Gruffydd, the purpose of the Ancestry section. I would not recommend adding the section back in, as it adds clutter to the article, however, you can add it back if you wish.

Otherwise, it looks great!. You should be good for a GA nomination. Hampton11235 (talk) 00:28, 25 June 2015 (UT

* Many thanks @Hampton11235: - that was well done. I'll address these points in the near future. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 07:34, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

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Nice work on the Crusades...[edit]

...it is starting to look a lot better! Hchc2009 (talk) 14:43, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

...but unfortunately, it's too unstable for a full copyedit at this time. Please feel free to relist it at the Guild of Copy Editors request page when it settles. All the best, Miniapolis 18:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Crusades copyedit[edit]


  • Thank you for this and your patience when the editing war erupted temporarily @Miniapolis:—great work. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 07:13, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 29, 2016[edit]

Hi NBF, I'll start work on this one today. You nominated the article at WP:FAC. - Dank (push to talk) 16:59, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Precious[edit]

House of Plantagenet

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Duties[edit]

I came to this topic from the blurb on the main page and have commented at WP:ERROR. As a major contributor, you may be able to help, please. Andrew D. (talk) 08:29, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

As this is not a main page error, please conduct any further discussion at the appropriate venue, namely the article talk page. Many thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:58, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Definitions of crusades don't match body text[edit]

Hello, I'm trying to ce Crusades, but the definitions don't seem to match the body text. The defs in two sections on the page seem to want to limit crusades to only those sanctioned by the relevant Pope, and then draw a further distinction between (sanctioned) religious actions and (also sanctioned) political ones. However, the pages also discusses shepherds' crusades etc. which seem to be only (non-sanctioned) popular movements. Thoughts? Change or explain definition (preferable) or remove popular movements (less preferable)?  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 02:23, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

  • @Lingzhi:—thanks for the help. This one has caused massive argument on here in the past and also generally amongst historians. I suspect they do match but arn't worded clearly. What is called pluralistic really does cover the Papal sanctioned Crusades i.e. a crusade is any military activity sanctioned by a Pope for religious reasons. What is called narrower I think is any campaign by Europeans to recover the Holy Land in the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries which just about covers the popular crusades although of course they never even got there. I could source this to the OED. What do you think? Norfolkbigfish (talk) 08:52, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
  • If people have been arguing about this then yes of course we must source it to the best source(s) available. I will probably have some time tomorrow or maybe the next day to fix things according to your post here. Please do look over the lede and see if I screwed anything up other than the def of crusade. :-) Will keep working but am busy in real life right now. later!   Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 09:09, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
  • PS while I'm here the lede mentions poerty and songs 'n stuff but I don't see it in body text. PLease see other comments on talk page. More comments later. Tks  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 09:11, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I've actually done some genuinely nontrivial editing so far... I'm on vacation now, though. Things are slowing down here and I might have more time in the next few days to do more editing, but I can't guarantee that. So, I could mark the Crusades as "done" on the GOCE page, or we could just continue to play it by ear as we have been. What do you think?  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 01:43, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Lingzhi:—I think play it by ear. You have already improved this article a great deal thx, it would be a shame not to complete what you can editing wise. Is this ok with you, though? Cheers Norfolkbigfish (talk) 09:04, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I could mark it Done on the GOCE page but still continue editing later, maybe three weeks from now, after my vacation. At that time I would have much better access to computer time and reference resources. For the next two weeks or so I can make no promises about being able to do anything at all (tho I might find some time in there somewhere). OK?  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Crusades PR Do you want help?[edit]

Hello again. I don't know what you want to do on the Crusades PR. Do you want me to help add missing info or make corrections or whatever as suggested at the PR? I may have already told you that I know exactly zero about the Crusades other than what I learned during ce the article. I have access to sources, and can track down info in many cases, but perhaps you might be more familiar with the information and the sources and so might do things faster and/or with better accuracy. I actually don't know if that's the case. You also seem to edit sporadically... Do you want help?  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 02:22, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

  • @Lingzhi:—help would be great thanks Lingzhi as I edit when I can but don't have too much spare time for it. I can't claim to be a Crusades expert either, but have found it interesting. I knoiw what it takes to get an article through FAC and I don't think I have the capacity right now, though the article deserves it. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 09:14, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
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