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It's not listed as a reliable source, and there's a good reason for that - it takes all its information from Wikipedia articles. You can tell just by looking at it. [[User:Deb|Deb]] ([[User talk:Deb|talk]]) 16:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC) |
It's not listed as a reliable source, and there's a good reason for that - it takes all its information from Wikipedia articles. You can tell just by looking at it. [[User:Deb|Deb]] ([[User talk:Deb|talk]]) 16:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:I thought so too at first. |
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:But after using the source for a while, I found out that it contains infromation that wiki doesn't. |
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:So it's definetely cant take "all" from the Wikipedia. |
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:Also, althrough it's not always 100% accurate, I saw many DOY pages citating it and nobody undid this changes. Thus I and the other users believe, that source can be trustworthy in most of the cases. |
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:P.S. You undid only my recent edit, that source was used on that and other pages before. |
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:If you are interested in that topic, better start a public discussion on Talk page, my edit hasn't got much to do with it. [[User:Glebushko0703|Gigman]] ([[User talk:Glebushko0703#top|talk]]) 16:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC) |
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In one of your recent edits, you cited https://wfneurology.org/private/downloads/aiCLirG2FuedshzLRg_7tw/wn_jun09_row.pdf as your source. I'm getting a 404 error when I try to retrieve it. Deb (talk) 15:47, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
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- How can I restore that page and fix all mistakes? Glebushko0703 (talk) 21:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Mike Jeffries (painter) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://transportartist.co.uk/biography/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.Deb (talk) 07:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, the source from which you copied your wording was a primary source and clearly intended to be promotional. Please don't do this again, or you could end up being blocked. Deb (talk) 07:59, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- What source I can use then if that's the only one available? Glebushko0703 (talk) 09:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Will it be okay to paste link via web.arhive like this: * Mike Jeffries biography
- Or will it still count as promotion? Glebushko0703 (talk) 14:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, it still counts as promotion. If the only source available is a primary source, then the subject clearly does not meet the notability criteria and there will be no Wikipedia article about him until this changes. Deb (talk) 15:09, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you. I'll be more carefull nest time. Glebushko0703 (talk) 15:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- One more question: If I add primary and side trustable source. will it still count as promo?
- For example, let's say I add this source
- with the
- [Biography » Transport Artist (archive.org) Mike Jeffries biography]
- on the page. Will it be ok? Glebushko0703 (talk) 16:06, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, it still counts as promotion. If the only source available is a primary source, then the subject clearly does not meet the notability criteria and there will be no Wikipedia article about him until this changes. Deb (talk) 15:09, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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Nomination of List of automotive artists for deletion
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DOY edit reversions
Hi there, myself and @Mr.choppers have reverted a few of your edits to DOY articles relating to car launches and sales. Although the cars may be notable in themselves, these events certainly aren't. As per WP:EVENTDOY, there has to be a wiki article specifically about the event in order for it to be eligible for inclusion in the Events section of DOY articles. Please take the time to familiarise yourself with this requirement. Please also feel free to reach out for support. Cheers, Kiwipete (talk) 05:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Then why there are events in this section about related to Ford Model T and VW Beetle?
- Cars I added are first of their kind and not less significant then those two.
- I think they deserve to be mentioned. Glebushko0703 (talk) 12:56, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- The Model T and the Beetle are probably the only two cars to merit inclusion. And the Benz Patentwagen, of course. Unless a number of other editors agree with you, you don't get to make the decisions all by yourself; see WP:BRD. Best, Mr.choppers | ✎ 23:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Then give them time to agree with me, instead of deleting all my edits right away. Glebushko0703 (talk) 00:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- The Model T and the Beetle are probably the only two cars to merit inclusion. And the Benz Patentwagen, of course. Unless a number of other editors agree with you, you don't get to make the decisions all by yourself; see WP:BRD. Best, Mr.choppers | ✎ 23:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Cars introduced in October
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a place for your list
https://list.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page you can copy over your list there and work on it without fear of deletion. You can also perhaps look at https://automobile.fandom.com/wiki/Autopedia Dream Focus 07:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I prefer this list to stay on wiki, where it would be much easier to find or stumble upon.
- I just don't understand admin logic. Complaining about "significance", while there are such things as List of sexually active popes
- Sometimes I really think contamination of information here depends purely on the mood of admins. Glebushko0703 (talk) 08:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Admins might delete pages but it's typically regular editors that tag articles for speedy deletion or AFD deletion discussions. Liz Read! Talk! 02:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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January 2024
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:December 25, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Suonii180 (talk) 11:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- User Kiwipete made this post on purpose to shame me publically, instead of using my Talk Page.
- I take it's existence as personal attack, and they are not allowed here.
- I insist on that message to be removed from public.Glebushko0703 (talk) 11:44, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- They started a discussion about why they reverted your edits which is the recommended process as per WP:BRD and you called· them lazy and incompetent so I don't think you should be accusing other editors of personally attacking you. Every editor has edits reverted at some point or other and the discussion regarding reverted edits often happens on the talk page of the article these edits were made. It's easier to get WP:CONSENSUS if other editors are involved. Suonii180 (talk) 12:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- I understood that already and I'm sorry, my case was closed.
- Can that discussion be closed too, or should my name remain on that talk page as an example of "how not to do" and "whom not to be" forever? Glebushko0703 (talk) 12:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- They started a discussion about why they reverted your edits which is the recommended process as per WP:BRD and you called· them lazy and incompetent so I don't think you should be accusing other editors of personally attacking you. Every editor has edits reverted at some point or other and the discussion regarding reverted edits often happens on the talk page of the article these edits were made. It's easier to get WP:CONSENSUS if other editors are involved. Suonii180 (talk) 12:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- You can WP:REDACT your own messages by striking through them but you can't remove someone's talk page message just because it means other people can see that they've disagreed with you. Any further discussion about removal of messages should tak place at the articles talk page with the editors who were involved. Suonii180 (talk) 14:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- So if I get the permission from the original author of that discussion - Kiwipete
- You will allow to delete that topic about me? Gigman (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's not just between you and @Kiwipete: if it's on an article talk page. The discussions are for other folks too and they stay if they have been responded to. Toddst1 (talk) 23:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- You can WP:REDACT your own messages by striking through them but you can't remove someone's talk page message just because it means other people can see that they've disagreed with you. Any further discussion about removal of messages should tak place at the articles talk page with the editors who were involved. Suonii180 (talk) 14:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
www.onthisday.com
It's not listed as a reliable source, and there's a good reason for that - it takes all its information from Wikipedia articles. You can tell just by looking at it. Deb (talk) 16:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- I thought so too at first.
- But after using the source for a while, I found out that it contains infromation that wiki doesn't.
- So it's definetely cant take "all" from the Wikipedia.
- Also, althrough it's not always 100% accurate, I saw many DOY pages citating it and nobody undid this changes. Thus I and the other users believe, that source can be trustworthy in most of the cases.
- P.S. You undid only my recent edit, that source was used on that and other pages before.
- If you are interested in that topic, better start a public discussion on Talk page, my edit hasn't got much to do with it. Gigman (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)