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I delete them as I see them. If your talkback has not been deleted, it is likely I haven't yet seen it. ɳoɍɑfʈ ^Talk!

MfD nomination of Portal:Wikipedia essays

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WikiProject Essays

Hi, thanks for renaming the WikiProject. I noticed one particular move in the move log: 23:31 . . SilkTork (talk | contribs) moved Wikipedia:Essay Categorization and/or Classification/Assessment/Statistics to Wikipedia:Essays/Assessment/Statistics Shouldn't that have been moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Essays/Assessment/Statistics? ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 22:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Separately from that, I'd like to see an article about the project in the next Wikipedia Signpost. Someone added a note, but I think there's enough info there for a full story. Care to write it? I can't because I'm one of the principal subjects. Same with Xeno. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 04:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I corrected the name - thanks for pointing it out. I found doing the name move was a bit more involved than I initially thought!

I'll bear your comment about an article for Signpost in mind, though I do have a growing list of things to do, some of which are overdue and need my attention. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 10:04, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Carnival of Carnage

I added the samples information to the "conception" section rather than creating a new section, because such sections tend to be confusing for some readers. (Sugar Bear (talk) 20:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC))

• I've asked Juggalobrink to take a look at your suggestions and work on the article a bit. The reason that only two samples are mentioned in the article is because the album doesn't use that many samples, and those were the only two that are sourced. (Sugar Bear (talk) 18:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC))

Talk:Blood rain/GA1

Thanks for reviewing the article. Sorry it took me a while to reply, I only just noticed the review. I've left comments on the page. Nev1 (talk) 22:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Kid Icarus GA

i changed things in the page, the page is now called Kid Icarus (video game), the messege in the talk says on hold but i do not now how to change it. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 01:16, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Taken care of. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 08:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Treaty of Ciudad Juarez

Thanks for the GAReview at Treaty of Ciudad Juarez. I do plan on taking it to FA but for now I've got couple other projects I need to finish up first. Will let you know. Thanks.radek (talk) 04:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, definitely. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 12:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

GA Review on Go

Hi - i noticed you requested alt tags for the article on Go. Are you sure this is actually demanded of an article to reach GA status? I read the guidelines and didn't see a reference for images conforming to the manual of style... I've been making a few updates you see. Also, the dead links, I just can't find them! What were they?--ZincBelief (talk) 13:39, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, found out after that, that you don't need them. Full MoS compliance is not necessary, just in certain sections. Sorry about that. Regarding the dead links, rather than give you a fish (i.e. tell you where they are), I'll teach you to fish: [1]. Let me know when I should take another look at it. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 13:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of Wikipedia talk:Article Incubator/Unreferenced BLPs/Athletes/Alex Murphy

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Edit summary

Use a better one. General fixes in user talk space? lol ! –xeno^talk 00:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Didn't notice. Thanks. About 80 pages tagged with "General fixes" and the other 100 or so with "Invitation to Backlog Elimination Drive." Oops. I guess people won't get to irritated about a bum edit summary. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 00:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Backlog cleanup notice

Thanks for letting me know, Noraft. Fdssdf 03:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

You bet! ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 03:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

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GAN backlog elimination drive - 1 week to go

First off, on behalf of myself and my co-coordinator Wizardman, I would like to thank you for the efforts that you have made so far in this GAN backlog elimination drive. It has been nothing short of a success, and that is thanks to you. See this Signpost article about what this drive has achieved so far. We're currently heading into the final week of the drive. At this time, if you have any GANs on review or on hold, you should be finishing off those reviews. Right now, we have more GANs on review or on hold than we do unreviewed. If you're going to start a GA review, please do so now so you can complete it by the end of the month and so that the nominator has a full 7-day window to address any concerns. See you at the finish!

–MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 16:21, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Trouble with "prosesize.js"

I can make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich but I seem to be having trouble with this prosesize.js tool. I followed the instructions very carefully (okay, they weren't that complicated) -- I even put it in the proper place (User:Bobnorwal/monobook.js). Then I reloaded/cleared the cache with Ctrl+Shift+R. It reloaded and presumably cleared the cache, but nothing new has popped up in the Toolbox section. (Note: I am using Linux, Ubuntu 9.10, with Firefox. I assumed my OS was not the problem, but you never know.) Sorry to bother you but I hope to participate in the upcoming Copyediting Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks for your time Bobnorwal (talk) 15:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

If you're using Firefox then you should be parsing javascript, which means there shouldn't be any problems. Have you ever changed to another skin beside the default skin? Are you using beta? ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 15:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I believe I have used another skin before. And yes, I am using the beta. Bobnorwal (talk) 16:08, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Good news! I left the Beta and the "Page size" tool works now. Bobnorwal (talk) 00:32, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

If you like beta, on the elimination drive talk page someone reported that they got it working in beta, so you may want to ask them what they did. Glad you got it working, though. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 03:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Newbie copyeditor asking for a pointer that relates to the copyediting drive.

Hi Noraft1 I had joined the Guild of Copyeditors a few days ago, and also signed up at the drive page. I don't understand how you would measure the word count though. I've installed the prose size counter, but exactly how would we measure words during a copyedit, redundant words subtracted or words added?. If, for example This edit], was a copyedit to an article that removed 281 instances of a doubled word, would I list 281 under my section of the log? Thanks, and hope to hear from you soon. Buggie111 (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

You measure before you copyedit. Not after. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 05:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, figured that out a moment ago by chcecking the drive page. I now see that it's not the width of the copyedit, but the intensity of it (bigger articles=harder copyedit). Thanks! Buggie111 (talk)

Idea

• I see you or someone has added

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between each editor article and word count section which I think is a good ides to keep the page neat, but if It was this format (NEXT SECTION) it

"User Name"

would be easier and faster for editors the add page names and work thier counts, just an idea. Thier section would also be he top of the page in the table of contents Mlpearc MESSAGE 00:11, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

*You know I keep having trouble with this "Page Count" thing and I just recieved Account Creator with all that my plate if getting full, so with regrets I resepctfully withdraw from your contest, thank you very much Mlpearc MESSAGE 01:09, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

• I will be busy but I'll do what I can. Leave me in Mlpearc MESSAGE 03:01, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Help!

Hi, I needed some help, after I received your notice for the Guild of Copy Editors, May 2010. I'm trying to do the 'Prose Size' application onto my Wikipedia, and I'm using Google Chrome, tried it on Firefox, but didn't achieve much. Would really appreciate some help :D Thanks x.

My Monobook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nasiryounus/monobook.js --  Nasir | ناصر یونس  have a chat  20:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Found your problem. The code needs to read:

importScript('User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js'); //[[User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js]] 

You have substituted your own username for User:Dr_pda. Copy and paste the code as shown, clear your cache, and it should work fine. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 03:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, phew! Thanks x  Nasir | ناصر یونس  chat?  21:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Backlog Drive Words

On the backlog main page, you mention a lot about word totals and whatnot. Is this words eliminated? Just looking for some clarification. Thanks Fdssdf 03:00, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

It is the number of words the article had before you started copyediting. If you copyedit a 603 word article down to 487 words, you get credit for 603 words. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 03:03, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I see. So it's just a way to judge how much text you're editing. Thanks again. Fdssdf 22:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

GA reviews

Hey, just wanted to let you know that you forgot to remove Blood rain and Big Bang (band) from the WP:GAN page. I took care of it for you. Someone else had already added Big Bang (band) to the WP:GA list. Torchiest (talk | contribs) 20:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. That's one of the things I don't like about the GA process...all the little details. Add the template to the page, take it off the GAN list, add it to the GA list, and (right now) update your backlog stats. Someone should put together a script that automates it. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 00:48, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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Am I not thinking right ? but couldn't there be a negitive word count after copy editing ? I mean what if your editing involves removing: let's say a reference, wouldn't that take away from the "page size" ? Mlpearc MESSAGE 17:56, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

• Sorry in reference to Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/May 2010 Mlpearc MESSAGE 17:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I assume you're talking about logging credit for copyediting. Page count is measured before copyediting, not after. If you edit a 504 word article down to 398 words, you get credit for 504 words. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 01:17, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Could you look over my edits at Waterskiing? I wanted to make sure I was copyediting correctly. Thanks, moɳo 02:19, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Everything looks good stylistically. I didn't look at the history, though (am a little busy, sorry), so I can't comment on what you added or removed. However the finished product reads well. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 02:35, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, moɳo 23:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Talk page template

Hi Noraft, just to let you know that I've sorted out this template for future postings on GOCE topics to talk pages. You can just grab it off here. Cheers.

- S Masters (talk) 07:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Not To Worry, But have a Better Look

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Thank you for your participation in the April 2010 GAN backlog elimination drive

GAN backlog elimination drives chart up to 1 May On behalf of my co-coordinator Wizardman, I'd like to especially thank you for your efforts over this past month's GAN backlog elimination drive. It has been nothing short of a complete success, which hopefully results in more expedient good article reviews, increasing users' confidence in the good article nomination processes. Even if you made just a small contribution, it still helped contribute to the success of this drive. Here is what we have accomplished this last month in this drive. 661 total nominations were reviewed. 541 of them passed (~81.8%), 97 (~14.7%) failed, and 23 (~3.5%) ended on hold. The WP:GAN page started at 110,126 bytes length on 1 April and ended at 43,387 bytes length at the end of 30 April (a 66,739 byte reduction in the page, about 60.6% less). Excluding extremes, the longest wait for someone's GAN to be review was about 11.5 weeks at the beginning. (I mistook the figure when I reported to the Signpost that it was 13.) At the end, with the exception of one that was relisted, the longest wait is now at 10 days. 63 different users participated, each having completed at least one GAN, with others also having helped out behind-the-scenes in making the drive a success. The drive started with 463 GA nominations remaining and 388 unreviewed. At the end of the month, we ended with 89 remaining (374 or about 80.8% less) and 47 unreviewed (341 or about 87.9% less). For those who have accomplished certain objectives in the drive, awards will be coming shortly. Again, thank you for your help in the drive, and I hope you continue to help review GA nominations and overall improve the quality of articles here on Wikipedia.

–MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 17:43, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests

HI. I think a notification of the drive should be added to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests to notify those editors who are no longer in need of copyediting. I've contacted one editor who removed their submission. Unfortunately I can't remember all the articles that have gone through FAC in the past months, but some are still on the requests page. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 04:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Noraft, I just took quick look at the requests...the first 10 do not have edit tags on them, do we go ahead and edit even though they are not in the 8,000 backlog of tagged articles? please advise. I was not even aware that they were there until I started to dig around. Sorry. More than willing to tackle the issue, just need a bit of guidance. Bullock^✉ 04:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead. You'll still get credit. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 07:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Word count script

When I added the script to my monobook.js I got a message stating that "The accompanying .css page for this skin can be added at User:True Pagan Warrior/monobook.css." The instructions don't make it clear; did I miss a step along the way?--~TPW 14:51, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Mine isn't working either :( I tried putting in the right script, but it still didn't work. I even removed the caches.  Nasir | ناصر یونس  chat?  23:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I took a look at both of your monobook.js files, and they both look correct. Are you both using the default skin? Or have you switched to another skin (like modern or vector) or are you using beta? If the answer to all those questions is no, I'd suggest trying the help desk. As a last resort, (and I mean LAST resort) if you can't get it working, add the articles you copyedit to the running total with no word count, and I'll go in and count them all for you. I don't want a technical problem to stop someone from participating. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 01:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Well I tried beta some time back, didn't like it and came back. Probably would have no bearing. I won't be able to actually copyedit for a day or two anyway.  ;) --~TPW 03:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Script doesn't work on Vector skin, is it OK for me just to get an almost-accurate count through this or should I switch to Monobook and use the script when I need to? • ɔ ʃ → 02:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I wonder why it doesn't work in Vector? huh. I'm using it in Modern. Anyway, I looked at that tool briefly. It only counts characters? If so, then I'd recommend you either switch to monobook to count, or I can count for you. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 02:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

My bad, I was looking at the wrong place, so it does work (and I gave you the wrong link if it didn't work anyhow). Sorry for the confusion, • ɔ ʃ → 03:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

One other thing, on the May 2010 drive logging page, what does the * next to some of the completed articles denote, needing review for scoring or something? • ɔ ʃ → 03:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

That indicates the review was on the requests page. A GOCE Gold Star Award goes to the person who does the most requests. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 03:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey, for those using Vector, I just saw User:MuZemike/vector.js, and his Page View works just fine. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 12:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

GAN backlog elimination drive award

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For reviewing 10 good article nominations during the April 2010 GAN backlog elimination drive, I hereby present you The Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Good work! –MuZemike 23:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

WP Essays in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Essays for a Signpost article to be published this month. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 07:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Copy Edit

I'm definitely interested in copy-editing and know how to, but can't get the procedure right. E.g. Getting the monobook code right. It just doesn't work right. I've vector skin and I'm not sure what's wrong. That's what kinda put me off a bit. -  Nasir | ناصر یونس  chat?  22:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

GCE drive

If I copyedited an article that was later deleted, would it still count in points? I just did Elgiazar Farashyan, but a quick Google search after lead me to bring the article to AfD. I'm asking because this would be pretty hard to verify (except for admins) if I did copyedit it, and even if I did, it wouldn't matter because it'd be deleted. —fetch·comms 01:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

You are not responsible for the AfD. You did your job, so you get the credit. I've seen it, so don't worry about verification. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 03:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Your query on the Help Desk

As you weren't logged in, and have now changed the sig to your user name, it is possible for you IP to be connected to your user name. If this does not worry you, no problem, but if you would rather not have this information in the page history, you can contact Oversight to have it removed from the history. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'm traveling right now, so this isn't my regular IP address, so maybe having it removed is a good idea in case later users start abusing Wikipedia through it. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 14:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Irony

I find it ironic that the very first time you ever posted to a user talk page you applied an assume good faith template to a user with over 2,000 edits...when you had 63 edits

I find it ironic that you lecture me about how Wikipedia works, when you apparently don't understand that yourself. I've been editing here for years, under a variety of IPs. (Every time I use a different computer, or get a new computer, or my ISP hiccups, I get a new IP.) I've made thousands of edits over the course of years.

I would encourage you to read Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars and think about what it says. You're putting vandalism warnings on the pages of someone with over 7,000 edits, and someone else near 35,000. How is this constructive?

I find it ironic that you scrutinized my edits, but not the edits to which I was responding. I was accused of vandalism for having changed the word "is" to "was." And then for that edit, and that edit only, my IP was outed on my talk page. How would you have responded?

We're all here to build an encyclopedia, in a spirit of mutual collaboration.

I find it ironic that the people you consider to be operating in a "spirit of mutual collaboration" engage in edit warring, spurious vandalism warnings, and harassment.

Your idealism is refreshing. Perhaps when you've edited as long as I have, you'll be as jaded as I am about the great role-playing game that is Wikipedia. 75.2.209.226 (talk) 13:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)