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:You gave me an edit of yours {{u|Isaacl}} but I'm guessing you're referring to the section I created [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Evidence#Barkeep49_Questions|here]]. I have clarified. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC) |
:You gave me an edit of yours {{u|Isaacl}} but I'm guessing you're referring to the section I created [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Evidence#Barkeep49_Questions|here]]. I have clarified. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::Sorry about that; I must have copied the link from the wrong page (it was someone else's edit actually). Thanks very much! (For anyone else's benefit, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Evidence&diff=1011034706&oldid=1011029891 this is the correct edit].) [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 21:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC) |
::Sorry about that; I must have copied the link from the wrong page (it was someone else's edit actually). Thanks very much! (For anyone else's benefit, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RexxS/Evidence&diff=1011034706&oldid=1011029891 this is the correct edit].) [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 21:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC) |
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The article New Kid you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:New Kid for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Eddie891 -- Eddie891 (talk) 17:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions
Please participate on the talk page if you are interested in the topic. Thank-you. You the man(converse) 20:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Recently active admin
Hi, I find you from the top banner on WP:ANI as recent active admin.
Can you take a look at [[1]] where an editor claims me (and another editor) to be Sunni zealots (indirectly, see preceding merge proposal by me).
Thank you. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- @TrangaBellam I'm not going to be able to give this attention at the moment. You might be best served by posting on ANI. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
The article New Kid you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:New Kid for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Eddie891 -- Eddie891 (talk) 16:02, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – March 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).
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Interface administrator changes
- A request for comment is open that proposes a process for the community to revoke administrative permissions. This follows a 2019 RfC in favor of creating one such a policy.
- A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
- A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the
delete-redirect
userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect. - A request for comment asks if sysops may
place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions
? - There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.
- When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
- When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
- There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).
- By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions
authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people.
Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions. - The Kurds and Kurdistan case was closed, authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed
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- By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions
- Following the 2021 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AmandaNP, Operator873, Stanglavine, Teles, and Wiki13.
WikiCup 2021 March newsletter
Round 1 of the competition has finished; it was a high-scoring round with 21 contestants scoring more than 100 points. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 55 contestants qualifying. You will need to finish among the top thirty-two contestants in Round 2 if you are to qualify for Round 3. Our top scorers in Round 1 were:
Epicgenius led the field with a featured article, nine good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 945 points.
Bloom6132 was close behind with 896 points, largely gained from 71 "In the news" items, mostly recent deaths.
ImaginesTigers, who has been editing Wikipedia for less than a year, was in third place with 711 points, much helped by bringing League of Legends to featured article status, exemplifying how bonus points can boost a contestant's score.
Amakuru came next with 708 points, Kigali being another featured article that scored maximum bonus points.
Ktin, new to the WikiCup, was in fifth place with 523 points, garnered from 15 DYKs and 34 "In the news" items.
The Rambling Man scored 511 points, many from featured article candidate reviews and from football related DYKs.
Gog the Mild, last year's runner-up, came next with 498 points, from a featured article and numerous featured article candidate reviews.
Hog Farm, at 452, scored for a featured article, four good articles and a number of reviews.
Le Panini, another newcomer to the WikiCup, scored 438 for a featured article and three good articles.
Lee Vilenski, last year's champion, scored 332 points, from a featured article and various other sport-related topics.
These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. In Round 1, contestants achieved eight featured articles, three featured lists and one featured picture, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. They completed 97 good article reviews, nearly double the 52 good articles they claimed. Contestants also claimed for 135 featured article and featured list candidate reviews. There is no longer a requirement to mention your WikiCup participation when undertaking these reviews.
Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or something else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.
If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Growth team newsletter #17
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Welcome to the seventeenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Structured tasks
Add a link: the team is continuing to engineer on our first "structured task", which will break down the workflow of adding wikilinks to articles, and assist newcomers with an algorithm to identify words and phrases that could be made into links.
Add an image: even as we build our first structured task, we have been thinking about the next one. "Add an image" is a structured task in which newcomers would be recommended images from Wikimedia Commons to add to unillustrated articles. This is an ambitious idea with many details to consider. We have already learned a lot from community members, and we encourage everyone to look at the project page and join the discussion.
Moving forward: more wikis to get the features
Last November, our team published the analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We announced that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers. Because of these results, we believe all Wikipedias should implement these features.
We have started to contact more wikis to deploy the features, including Wikipedias of all sizes. Bengali Wikipedia recently began using Growth features, and Danish, Thai, Indonesian, and Romanian Wikipedias will be coming soon. Please contact us if you have questions regarding deployment.
We are looking for translators who can help by translating the interface. Translating is done on Translatewiki.net (it requires a different account that your Wikimedia one). Communities that already have the Growth features being deployed are invited to check on the translations. Access translations here.
Variant testing
As mentioned in our previous newsletter, we ran a test of two variants of the newcomer homepage, meant to find a version that increases users completing suggested edits. We have completed the experiment, and learned that one of the variants leads to more edits on desktop while the other leads to more edits on mobile. Therefore, we will deploy the strongest variants for each platform to all newcomers.
News for mentors
Mentor dashboard: we have interviewed mentors from several communities as we plan a mentor dashboard feature, which would help mentors track the progress of their mentees. We encourage all mentors to share their thoughts on tools that would help them.
Magic word for mentors: it is now possible to use a magic word, {{#mentor}}
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Help panel questions going to mentors: in most wikis, newcomers using the help panel ask questions to the help desk. On Czech Wikipedia, we have experimented with sending these questions to mentors instead. This simplifies the newcomer experience, and only led to a increase in mentorship questions of about 30%. We tried this in Arabic, Bengali, French and Vietnamese Wikipedias, and we are making it the default experience.
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Block of User:Geo Swan
Could you include in your close statement a link to the commons discussion(s)? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @RoySmith yes but if you have the link at your fingertips that would make it easier :) (I'm going to look as well but...) Barkeep49 (talk) 01:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, No, I don't have it. I was just looking around a bit, but I don't know my way around the commons drama boards. From the way you worded your statement, it sounded like you had a particular discussion in mind. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @RoySmith not really. I was just going off what others had indicated having read the thread. I'm honing in though... Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @RoySmith
Done. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @RoySmith
- @RoySmith not really. I was just going off what others had indicated having read the thread. I'm honing in though... Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, No, I don't have it. I was just looking around a bit, but I don't know my way around the commons drama boards. From the way you worded your statement, it sounded like you had a particular discussion in mind. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
before becoming inadvertent CBAN
Admittedly cannot be unbiased, but drat. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra if you want to to propose a CBAN, fair enough. Please don't let my close stop you. I just don't think it's fair for these to happen by procedural loophole. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- No. Too biased. Too emotionally engaged. This will work out better. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Seeking advice
I believe the text book answer to this question is usually a “No” per WP:V, & WP:N , but I figured per WP:IAR if it benefits the encyclopedia it wouldn’t hurt to create the article, all the same as any good chela would, they must seek advice & approval from the sat-guru so I came to seek your opinion on this bold step I’m still currently contemplating on if or not to undertake, the thing is, I’m thinking of creating a biographical article on Nigeria's first official occultist, but unfortunately the sourcing would predominantly be primary as he was notable in 1993(before Nigeria got internet) & wasn’t available to Nigeria until 1995 (I know that’s a silly & lousy excuse though) anyway, this article is of immense value hence for the first time I'm actually contemplating on following the IAR route as third party sourcing is proving very difficult to find although the article is of encyclopedic value. What are your thoughts on this? Celestina007 (talk) 19:58, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Celestina007: Not Barkeep, but we do wear similar hats :P What do you mean by primary sources? It doesn't have to be online. I use books and newspapers all the time, and anything newer than about the 1960s should easily be RS. If you can find newspaper coverage of the dude you're golden. Newspapers.com (of which the Wikipedia Library provides a subscription to) is a good friend there. Though not sure how it'll do with foreign papers. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 20:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @CaptainEek, ironically I refer to him as Captain so seeing you reply on his behalf amused me. I say primary sources because most information about him is from the book he wrote, I’m conversant with offline sources & how to optimize them,(which I had done before asking Barkeep for their opinion) but even the offline sources aren’t sufficient enough for me to say “oh well this is sufficient enough to meet WP:BASIC”. To say this is a curious case would be putting it mildly. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say he is the Aliester Crowley of Nigeria. Celestina007 (talk) 21:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Is there substantial secondary sourcing of this person? If so it can be OK if a lot of the material is verifiable through a primary source. What establishes notability is different than what can be used to successfully verify and expand the content of an article. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @CaptainEek, ironically I refer to him as Captain so seeing you reply on his behalf amused me. I say primary sources because most information about him is from the book he wrote, I’m conversant with offline sources & how to optimize them,(which I had done before asking Barkeep for their opinion) but even the offline sources aren’t sufficient enough for me to say “oh well this is sufficient enough to meet WP:BASIC”. To say this is a curious case would be putting it mildly. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say he is the Aliester Crowley of Nigeria. Celestina007 (talk) 21:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
User:Rich Farmbrough indef
Hi Barkeep49. This is just a courtesy note to let you know that I've increased Rich Farmbrough's block that you placed from 1 month to indefinite - as he has made it clear that he does not intend to abide by his restrictions when he returns. WormTT(talk) 11:30, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Worm That Turned there was certainly no need to consult with me before turning this into an indef and there is, under our policies and guidelines, ample evidence for this being a reasonable action. The only thing I'll note is that Rich still chafing under things 1 week into a 1 month block isn't too surprising. If it seemed likely that they could get it in 1 week that's what I'd have blocked for. I seriously considered 1 and 3 months and went with the hopeful view of 1 month and hold out hope that that will remain the right timeframe for Rich to be in a good frame of mind to return to our community. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I did consider the fact that Rich will be feeling it and I'm one of the most hesitant blockers on wikipedia. However, Rich was making it clear that he not only disagreed with the block, but also that he was intending to not change behaviour afterwards - "If I come back from this block and fix one typo, and get indeffed for it, it's still one typo fixed", that the issue was with others (splitting possibilities into paraphrased "I made a mistake but I fix those, someone is annoyed with me or someone just OTT regarding rules") and finally stating that he does not believe the restriction is valid and should not have to follow it.
- This wasn't spouting insults or grumping about individuals, which I would largely ignore during a block, but it appeared to me to be considered opinion that disruption would occur beyond the one month block. He's said he wishes to discuss further, so I am hopeful that a solution might come forward, but a simple time limited block does not appear to be one. WormTT(talk) 15:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Repeatedly vandalism of zeyan shafiq
Sir, i follow up some info like zeyan shafiq create new acoount for spamming and you should also see the Stalwart esports page edit. I hope it also needed to be deleted. I hope the person also trying to edit this by himself .Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.127.95.162 (talk) 11:34, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I don't understand. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:37, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- sir, i want to say that some paid or related person of Stalwart_Esports are editing this page. I hope this esports page must be delete because it’s has no personal achievement. It’s only get press release for India Pakistan issue. Please do essential steps. 103.127.95.163 (talk) 19:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Praxidicae has edited that page recently. They do lots of work with paid editing. I will leave this to them. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- sir, i want to say that some paid or related person of Stalwart_Esports are editing this page. I hope this esports page must be delete because it’s has no personal achievement. It’s only get press release for India Pakistan issue. Please do essential steps. 103.127.95.163 (talk) 19:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Requested changes from NowMedical
Good morning. I wanted to give you a ping to see if you were interested in participating at Talk:NowMedical under the “Requested Changes…” section and making whatever edits you feel comply with Wikipedia’s policies. Thank you in advance for your time if you decide to chip in. MarthaLuke (talk) 16:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @MarthaLuke, thanks for the invite. My participation in the AfD which combined my admin and OTRS hats hopefully stands on its own. If there is further need of one of those you could call me in, but I do not plan on participating in the discussion. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Arbitrator question
Regarding this edit: can I suggest for clarity that you expand your question to avoid solely using an all-caps redirect jargon term? If I understand correctly, you are asking for evidence that the adminstrator's overall behaviour is in alignment with community expectations on conduct. Using just the shortcut term by itself can be confusing, as people sometimes drop references to the shortcut jargon when speaking about policy violations without actually using a negation. For example, when referring to a biased opinion, editors sometimes say something like "This is WP:NPOV" instead of "This violates WP:NPOV". Just something to consider. isaacl (talk) 21:08, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- You gave me an edit of yours Isaacl but I'm guessing you're referring to the section I created here. I have clarified. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry about that; I must have copied the link from the wrong page (it was someone else's edit actually). Thanks very much! (For anyone else's benefit, this is the correct edit.) isaacl (talk) 21:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
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