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Playboy Now Unlisted for Alliance for Audited Media for Circulation Averages Ending 6/30/2018?
Playboy is unlisted for the Alliance for Audited Media circulation averages for the six months ended: 6/30/2018? [1] This is perhaps the first time in its history Playboy’s sales figures are not listed for a national audit. Look for Rizvi Traverse to kill this magazine in 2018.199.227.97.254 (talk) 21:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Playboy to Become Quarterly in 2019
Please add the following sentence to the last paragraph of the Publication History section of the article to read as follows: "In an interview with The New York Times given on September 12, 2018 Playboy CEO Ben Kohn announced while the magazine is not going out of print it will become a quarterly beginning in 2019."[1]199.227.97.254 (talk) 16:31, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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Sasha Grey
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Sasha Grey is listed in the 2010s (2010-10-10) and the 2000s (2009-12-09) lists, and it would be arguably undue to add both lists to Sasha Grey#See also (two entries at the moment.) Therefore I suggest to add her here in section #Celebrities under Film for one entry in this See also. This would also help to balance the shorter left column of #Celebrities with the longer right column:
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The literal consensus (3×10+11) was already broken, one overlong entry under Television additionally broke it very visibly in the right column, and the three other categories (not TV) are stuck in ancient history (the 2000s). Plan B, I could ignore the 2000s and add only the 2010s list to Sasha Grey#See also, and you can eliminate one (pick) of the 11 Television entries.
While at it and if you have admin rights: Consider to change the semi-protection to required review here, I've tested this for three months, it works like a charm, and is simpler than {{edit semi-protected}}
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@84.46.52.92: I did the Sasha Grey edit that you requested. Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 17:17, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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Personal intro and request
Hello editors. I'm Zach, a new editor here on Wikipedia, and a representative of my employer, PLBY Group. I understand the rules for editors with a conflict of interest, and am committed to following community standards. I disclosed my COI in the banners above, and on my user page. I will not edit the article directly, instead I will make suggestions here. My goals are to help volunteer editors by providing appropriate sourcing where there are gaps, and suggest changes or updates to information that is out of date or inaccurate, again with appropriate sourcing to support any proposed edits.
I understand that some edits I suggest may not be accepted, or may be altered by editors. This is a new process for me, but I'm looking forward to collaborating with the community and learning more about Wikipedia. As I'm new, I've posted what I hope is a simple request below, and provided some sources to address a couple of the "citation needed" tags in Publication history.
Sources for Publication history
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I've noticed there are a few tags in the article where no source has been cited to support the content. I have a few sources here that I think will help support some of the unsourced content.
- Citation needed in 1950s for: The cover price was 50¢. Copies of the first issue in mint to near-mint condition sold for over $5,000 in 2002.
- This Mental Floss article confirms the first issue cover price. I was not able to find a source that supports the $5k selling price in 2002, however the Mental Floss article does mention an auction of a first issue. This Newsweek list confirms that a copy of the first issue sold in 2018 for $6,100, but I learned to cross-check sources with this list of reliable sources and saw that Newsweek is not always reliable, so I understand if editors prefer not to use.
- Citation needed in 1960s-1990s for: Since reaching its peak in the 1970s, Playboy saw a decline in circulation and cultural relevance due to competition in the field it founded—first from Penthouse, then from Oui (which was published as a spin-off of Playboy) and Gallery in the 1970s; later from pornographic videos; and more recently from lad mags such as Maxim, FHM, and Stuff. In response, Playboy has attempted to re-assert its hold on the 18–35-year-old male demographic through slight changes to content and focusing on issues and personalities more appropriate to its audience—such as hip-hop artists being featured in the "Playboy Interview".
- The Los Angeles Times went into detail about this period in this story.
- One other note for this section, it says "...Playboy has attempted to re-assert its hold on the 18-35-year-old male demographic..." I think it would make sense to remove the word has from this sentence, because it implies that the section describes current efforts, when this information is past tense.
I'll continue to look for sources that support other parts of the article, and appreciate any feedback editors have. Thanks, PLBY ZG (talk) 17:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Noting here that I added the edit request template above. PLBY ZG (talk) 18:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- PLBY ZG Done, the above two requests have been implemented -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Asartea: Thanks so much for implementing those changes. I've posted another request below, if you're interested in continuing to collaborate on these updates, please have a look. I've also posted a request at Talk:Playboy Enterprises. Thanks again, PLBY ZG (talk) 16:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Tense and sourcing updates for Post–2000
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- Paragraph two currently reads in present tense in several places. I propose updating it to past tense, and specifying that it's referring to the printed edition of Playboy for clarity. Suggested changes are in bold below:
- The printed magazine ran several annual features and ratings. One of the most popular was its annual ranking of the top "party schools" among all U.S. universities and colleges. In 2009, the magazine used five criteria: bikini, brains, campus, sex and sports in the development of its list. The top-ranked party school by Playboy for 2009 was the University of Miami.
- Paragraph three ends with an unsourced sentence "In December 2009, they further reduced the publication schedule to 10 issues per year, with a combined January/February issue." This Business Insider article confirms that the magazine published one less issue in Q1, 2010. If that source is acceptable, here is a citation:
<ref name="BusIns Aug2010">{{cite web |title=Playboy Loses Less Money Than It Did A Year Ago |last1=Joe |first1=Pompeo |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/playboy-loses-less-money-than-it-did-a-year-ago-2010-8 |work=Business Insider |date=August 5, 2010 |accessdate=April 27, 2021}}</ref>
- Question for editors: The article currently notes that along with bringing back nudity in 2017, Playboy Philosophy and Party Jokes also returned. Cartoons also returned to the magazine at that time, but I've been unable to locate secondary coverage for independent verification. My question is, can the magazine itself be used to support mentioning the return of the cartoons? I understand if editors prefer to wait for a secondary source. The reason I'm asking is because in 2016–2018 changes and brief ending of full frontal nudity the article mentions that "Hefner, himself a former cartoonist, reportedly resisted dropping the cartoons more than the nudity, but ultimately obliged." So it seems relevant to the history that cartoons returned. Curious what editors think, and any advice you have.
Thank you for reviewing, PLBY ZG (talk) 16:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Partly done Changed the tense in paragraph two (diff), makes sense to me. ritenerek⋆:) 20:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @PLBY ZG: sorry, forgot to ping ritenerek⋆:) 20:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have closed this request as answered since it looks like it has been fulfilled. Please post a new request below if there are still things to add to the article. Thanks. Z1720 (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- @PLBY ZG: sorry, forgot to ping ritenerek⋆:) 20:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Suggestions and sourcing for Online section
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Hello, Zach here with another set of suggestions and some sourcing updates for the article. Ritenerek, thank you for your help with the wording changes on my last request. I'm pinging you here in case you're interested in collaborating on some additional changes.
These suggestions all pertain to the Online sub-section of Other formats. I found some unsourced material in the current article, and some details that could use some clarification. I hope these suggestions are improvements from a reader and encyclopedia perspective, and I understand that editors might not prefer to implement every change, or might alter my suggested text.
- I'd like to propose changing The growth of the Internet prompted the magazine to develop an official web presence called Playboy Online or Playboy.com, which is the official website for Playboy Enterprises, and an online companion to Playboy magazine. The site has been available online since 1994.[1] to The growth of the Internet prompted the magazine to develop an official web presence called Playboy Online in the late 1980s.[2] The company launched Playboy.com, the official website for Playboy Enterprises and an online companion to Playboy magazine, in 1994.[3][4]
- The proposed change clarifies when Playboy first had a digital presence with what I hope is an appropriate source, and includes improved sourcing to confirm details about the website launch, which is currently sourced to an archive of the website.
- Details about the "Playboy Cyber Club" are currently unsourced. I have a citation here that confirms the details, but I was not able to find an easily accessible digital copy. I understand if editors prefer not to include, but thought I'd offer it just the same:
<ref name="TheRecord June1997">{{cite news |title=Playboy widening its use of The Web |last1=Jones |first1=Tim |page=H09 |work=The Record |date=June 23, 1997 |accessdate=}}</ref>
- I also propose changing In September 2005, Playboy launched the online edition of the magazine Playboy Digital. to In September 2005, Playboy began publishing a digital version of the magazine.[5]
- I've added a citation here as well, since it's currently unsourced. Because the magazine has existed in a digital format since that time in one form or another, I've rephrased this slightly to be inline with the supplied source and to focus on when the company began publishing the magazine digitally.
- I noticed that details about iPlayboy are also currently unsourced and "i.playboy.com" is inaccurate. For clarity and to eliminate any need to keep the URL up to date, it seems like this could be Changed from i.playboy.com to iPlayboy. I've also provided a source below that discusses the launch of iPlayboy.
<ref name="CNN May2011">{{cite web |title=Playboy puts 57 years of articles, nudity online |last1=Griggs |first1=Branddon |last2=Susana |first2=Miguel |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/05/20/tech.playboy.issues.online/index.html |work=[[CNN]] |date=May 21, 2011 |accessdate=May 7, 2021}}</ref>
- One last question. This section also talks about "The Smoking Jacket", which was redirected when Playboy.com became a safe-for-work website. Do editors think it's worth mentioning that change? I wasn't able to locate a source that specifically mentions "The Smoking Jacket" being redirected. This CNBC article mentions the main site becoming safe for work.
As always, I appreciate all the help from editors with these requests so I can remain hands off with my conflict of interest. I am open to any feedback. Thank you! PLBY ZG (talk) 22:03, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Done: All Edits Done. Jaxarnolds (talk) 08:51, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Playboy Web Space". Archived from the original on December 20, 1996.
- ^ "Playboy joins computer revolution". United Press International. April 2, 1987. Retrieved May 7, 2021.
- ^ Wolinsky, Howard (February 23, 2000). "Disney Internet exec hops to Playboy.com". Chicago Sun-Times. p. 59.
- ^ "Playboy Web Space". Archived from the original on December 20, 1996.
- ^ Johnston, Chris (August 5, 2005). "Playboy launches digital edition". The Guardian. Retrieved May 11, 2021.
International editions updates
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Hello again! I'd like to ask editors for their thoughts on updating the International editions section. In the collapsed box below, I've posted a list of changes to international editions that are not reflected in the article. Can someone take a look at let me know what might be an acceptable source or if it's reasonable to implement any of these changes? Looking at WP:VERIFY, these don't seem like changes that are "likely to be challenged". But, I understand that editors prefer to use secondary coverage whenever possible, so I'm not sure what's appropriate for updating information already in the article if the new information wasn't reported in the news. Jaxarnolds, thanks for your help implementing my most recent request! I am tagging you here in case you'd like to weigh in on any of these.
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We don't have records of editions that were specific to Belgium and/or Switzerland. Other territory editions were permitted to distribute in those territories, e.g. PB Italy had the right to distribute its edition in Switzerland as of Nov. 2017, but it was not a Swiss edition |
There were also a couple of questions I asked in requests above that hadn't been answered when the request was closed, so I figured I would repost those here as well.
- In Post–2000 The article currently notes that along with bringing back nudity in 2017, Playboy Philosophy and Party Jokes also returned. Cartoons also returned to the magazine at that time, but I've been unable to locate secondary coverage for independent verification. My question is, can the magazine itself be used to support mentioning the return of the cartoons? I understand if editors prefer to wait for a secondary source. The reason I'm asking is because in 2016–2018 changes and brief ending of full frontal nudity the article mentions that "Hefner, himself a former cartoonist, reportedly resisted dropping the cartoons more than the nudity, but ultimately obliged." So it seems relevant to the history that cartoons returned. Curious what editors think, and any advice you have.
- The Online section talks about "The Smoking Jacket", which was redirected when Playboy.com became a safe–for–work website. Do editors think it's worth mentioning that change? I wasn't able to locate a source that specifically mentions "The Smoking Jacket" being redirected. This CNBC article mentions the main site becoming safe for work.
Looking forward to hearing editors' thoughts on how to move forward with these updates. Thanks for the continuing help! PLBY ZG (talk) 19:54, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- I've updated the editions as described (hopefully correctly). I'm not inclined to add the cartoons back based on the primary sources only (you can't cite every edition, but just the first edition it came back could have been a one–off, or maybe they were added back for a year only... difficult under WP:V to establish they came back indefinitely). Similar with the Smoking Jacket—without a secondary source, I don't think it's worth mentioning. — Bilorv (talk) 13:53, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Addition for 1960s-1990s
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Hello. I have another request I'd like to make for this article. Below, I've proposed a short mention of when the Playboy Philosophy column was added to the magazine, and some early topics covered, as well as brief mention of the magazine's stance on cannabis reform at the time. I think this would fit in 1960s-1990s, and gives valuable context on the magazine's development over time. I will of course defer to what volunteer editors think is best, and as an editor with a conflict of interest, appreciate the help reviewing and implementing acceptable changes on my behalf. Thanks! PLBY ZG (talk) 22:06, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ Batura, Amber (September 28, 2017). "How Hugh Hefner Invented the Modern Man". The New York Times. Retrieved June 22, 2021.
- ^ Hasse, Javier (January 8, 2021). "All About Playboy's Cannabis Law Reform Advocacy And Social Equity Grants". Benzinga. Retrieved June 23, 2021.
- Done: edits have been done. Jaxarnolds (talk) 01:34, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Jaxarnolds: Thanks so much for reviewing and
implementing! PLBY ZG (talk) 20:41, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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