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I made the requested changes. But note that sources from 1957 may not reflect modern scholarship's views. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 07:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC) |
I made the requested changes. But note that sources from 1957 may not reflect modern scholarship's views. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 07:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC) |
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: Thank you very much [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]]. I'll try and see if there are any recent sources as well. Also, it appears you've made a small typo in the sentence "TThe king may have been elected in a tribal assembly (called Samiti), which included women.". You've put two 'T"s by mistake. It would be great if you could fix that! [[User:Aathish S|Aathish S]] | [[User talk:Aathish S|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Aathish_S|contribs]] 08:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC) |
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Mordern Communities should be added in this page
Like the Brahmins and Vaishyas, state wide Kshatriya castes or list of modern castes of Kshatriyas should be added in this page.Government of India listed Kshatriya castes like Rajput,Rajus etc. should be mentioned in this page.The Government listed Kshatriya Castes as stated by K.S.Singh(1935-2006),Director General of Anthropological Survey of India were totally 8 castes.They were as follows: 1.Rajput. 2.Kshatriya or Raju or Kshatriya Raju(Andhra Pradesh,Tamil Nadu & Karnataka). 3.Somavamsi Kshatriya/bhatraju (Andhra Pradesh,Tamil Nadu & Karnataka). 4.Raghuvamsi Kshatriya(Karnataka). 5.Kshatriya(Kerala). 6.Khatri(Punjab) 7.Koteyar(Tamil nadu,Karnataka). 8.Dhal Kshatriya(Bihar). 9.Aguri(West Bengal). 10.Kshatriya(Orissa & Assam).In all,total 10 communities were listed as Kshatriya Castes by Government of India by the help of Anthropological Survey of India.It was also mentioned in the book "India's Communities" by K.S.Singh,Vol-V,p.1853.You can see this in the following link as follows : http://books.google.co.in/books?ei=A0O8UtD5Bo6IiQejnIHQCg&id=1lZuAAAAMAAJ&dq=india%27s+communities&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Raghuvamsi
I agree Pseudo Nihilist (talk) 16:06, 13 January 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 23:05, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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I do not understand this at all. Even if it is correct regarding that person's Vedic kshatriya status (!), why are we singling out one person from many others? Are we going to name every kshatriya who has an article? - Sitush (talk) 14:50, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:42, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Non-Hindu Kshatriyas
Many historical rulers came from other castes, or were descended from non-Hindu foreign conquerors, and were either granted de facto Kshatriya status by virtue of the power they held, or they created fictionalized family histories to connect themselves to past Kshatriya rulers. For instance, the Sakas, Yavanas, Kambojas, Pahlavas, Paradas, and so on, were foreign invaders from the northwest, but were assimilated into the Indian community as Kshatriyas.
Though the Ashtadhyayi of Panini (sutra 4.1.168-175) attests that the Kamboja and Gandhara were very important Kshatriya kingdoms of Uttarapatha during or prior to Paninian times (500 B.C.E.), they came to be regarded as Sudras for not following the teachings of the Vedas. The Manusmriti, written about 200 C.E. states that the Sakas (Scythians), Yavanas (Ionian, Indo-Greeks), Kambojas (Central Asians), Paradas (Sinkiang), Pahlavas (Persians), Kiratas (Nepal, Assam), Dravidas, Thevar (Tamil), and Daradas were originally noble Kshatriyas but were relegated to the Barbaric (Vrishala) status due to their neglect of the Brahmanas as well as due to their non-observance of the sacred Brahmanical codes (X/43-44). Anushasanaparava of the Mahabharata also views the Sakas, Kambojas and the Yavanas. in the same light. Patanjali in his Mahabhasya regards the Sakas and Yavanas as pure Sudras (II.4.10). The Vartika of the Katyayana informs us that the kings of the Sakas and the Yavanas, like those of the Kambojas, may also be addressed by their respective tribal names. The Mahabharata also associates the Sakas, Yavanas, Gandharas (Northwest India), Kambojas (Pamir-Badakshan), Pahlavas, Tusharas, Sabaras, Barbaras, Dravidas, and Boyars, and so on, and addresses them all as the barbaric tribes of Uttarapatha. The Kishkindha Kanda of the Ramayana locates the Sakas, Kambojas, Yavanas, and the Paradas in the extreme north-west beyond the Himavat (that is, Hindukush) (43/12) in the Shakadvipa, adjoining the land of Uttarakurus. The Udyogaparava of the Mahabharata (MBH 5/19/21-23) tells us that the composite army of the Kambojas, Yavanas and Sakas had participated in the Mahabharata war under the supreme command of Sudakshina Kamboja. The epic repeatedly applauds this composite army as being very fierce and wrathful. Some verses of Mahabharata also attest that the Tusharas or Tukharas were also included in the Kamboja division (for example, MBH 6.66.17-21; MBH 8.88.17). Puranic accounts attest that the Dravidas are Kshatriyas and are said to be descendants of the sons of Vishwamitra. Like the Kambojas, Sakas, Yavanas, Daradas, Khashas, and so on, the Dravidas were recorded as Kshatriyas who no longer were initiated into the sacred thread due to their neglect of the Brahmanas as well as due to their non-observance of the sacred Brahmanical codes. Nav203 (talk) 12:46, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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Just adding citations where I can and making sure sentences reflect sources:
Change (add a citation and modify sentence): The administrative machinery in the Vedic India was headed by a tribal king called Rajan whose position was not hereditary.
to: The administrative machinery in the Vedic India was headed by a tribal king called Rajan whose position may or may not have been hereditary.[1]
Change (add a citation and modify sentence): The king was elected in a tribal assembly (called Samiti) which included women.
to: The king may have been elected in a tribal assembly (called Samiti), which included women.[2][1]
Change (add a citation): Some scholars consider the Purusha Sukta to be a late interpolation into the Rigveda based on the neological character of the composition, as compared to the more archaic style of the Vedic literature.
to : Some scholars consider the Purusha Sukta to be a late interpolation into the Rigveda based on the neological character of the composition, as compared to the more archaic style of the Vedic literature.[3]
Change (add a citation) : the Purusha Sukta was supposedly composed in order to secure Vedic sanction for the heredity caste scheme.
to : the Purusha Sukta was supposedly composed in order to secure Vedic sanction for the heredity caste scheme.[3]
I made the requested changes. But note that sources from 1957 may not reflect modern scholarship's views. Dimadick (talk) 07:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Dimadick. I'll try and see if there are any recent sources as well. Also, it appears you've made a small typo in the sentence "TThe king may have been elected in a tribal assembly (called Samiti), which included women.". You've put two 'T"s by mistake. It would be great if you could fix that! Aathish S | talk | contribs 08:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- ^ a b Renou, Louis (1957). Vedic India. p. 130.
- ^ Shori, Maj Gen A. K. "Fifth Shade : Rama as A King". Seven Shades of Rama. Notion Press. ISBN 978-93-84391-74-4.
- ^ a b Jamison, Stephanie W.; Brereton, Joel P. (2014). The Rigveda: The Earliest Religious Poetry of India. Oxford University Press. pp. 57–58. ISBN 978-0-19-937018-4.
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