User talk:Joe Roe

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Howley Hall

I am bewildered as to why you would argue that Howley Hall is in Batley when it is indeed in Morley. The ancient parish was much larger and included Morley but Morley did exist and that is where Howley Hall was built. Ancient parishes were very large, neighbouring Dewsbury included Ossett for example. In times past something might have been recorded as being in the historic parish but I think Wikipedia uses modern boundaries, as does Historic England :Location Leeds (Metropolitan Authority) Parish:Morley. Here are two maps showing boundaries, one modern, one older. It can quite easily be closer to Batley centre but that really doesn't change the fact that it is in Morley. YOu are misleading readers by continuing to argue it is in Batley. (https://mapit.mysociety.org/area/9045.html) (https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Batley/BatleyMap)

Answered at Talk:Howley Hall. – Joe (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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A help...

Hi Joe. Hope you're well. I'm here to ask you that if any user's one or two created page deleted, he will not be granted for autopatrolled? I've created 50 articles. But more than 5 was deleted in July–August. But from September, my created a few articles was deleted. But I think that I meet with other criteria. Thanks.  _regards, Orbit Wharf  ^{💬  •  📝} 05:06, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alexis Mallon

On 27 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alexis Mallon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1929, the world press proclaimed Teleilat el Ghassul to be the biblical Sodom and Gomorrah, but Father Alexis Mallon, the site's excavator, disagreed? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alexis Mallon. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alexis Mallon), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Close of Sacramento Freelancers Drum and Bugle Corps

Hi Joe, I was following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sacramento Freelancers Drum and Bugle Corps and there doesn't appear to be any consensus to delete. While the IP users did not cast a vote, their responses indicate that they wish for the page to be kept, IMO. Also, a PROD was contested so there is evidently some opposition to deletion. As a result, would you be willing to change the close to no consensus? I feel that would be more appropriate in this case. Best wishes NemesisAT (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

The comment from the unregistered editor didn't offer any policy-based reasons to keep the article and did not refute the central argument for deletion: lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. I down-weighted it accordingly. Read together with the parallel discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colts Drum and Bugle Corps, I think there is a rough consensus for deletion, if only in the absence of substantial objections. – Joe (talk) 12:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Barry Fell -- pseudoarcheology

I see that my edit to the article on Barry Fell lasted only a few minutes before you reverted it. I expect you know a lot more about him than I do, so it would be silly to argue. Nonetheless, the problem I have with putting such a disparaging term in the opening paragraph, putting him in the same category as charlatans like Erich von Däniken, is that it is effectively asserting it as a fact, whereas it is an opinion by other specialists, admittedly a large majority of them. I have no quarrel with saying the same thing in the section on Archaeology survey, because there it is indeed a fact that most specialists think that it is pseudoarcheology. Athel cb (talk) 17:24, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

There are multiple reliable sources in the article that say that Fell's theories are considered pseudoarchaeology or pseudoscience. I think that makes it a "fact" as far as Wikipedia is concerned, and it would be unusual not to include that point in the lead when quite a large portion of the article body is devoted to it. – Joe (talk) 11:16, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

(I seem to have accidentally deleted the reply I drafted, but no matter, I'll try again.) If that's Wikipedia's definition of a "fact" then sobeit, but it seems weak to me. I won't pursue the matter. Almost all I know about Barry Fell is what I read in the article, which I turned to because I had just added Honor Fell to the List of biologists and saw his name next to hers. Athel cb (talk) 17:22, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

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Efe Ukala

Hey Joe, I would like to create an Article on Efe Ukala, I am aware that you just performed a deletion action on the article, with your kind permission, I would love to give it another trial. I engaged in the Article for Deletion Discussion, and with your kind permission, I believe I have done enough research on the Subject, with good Ref to warrant it being considered for notability. I kindly await your reply on this. Ogele (talk) 09:38, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ogele. I can't stop you but I don't think it's a good idea. You already made your case for keeping the article in the AfD, and unfortunately nobody agreed. Unless there is significantly more and better coverage than there was in September, it will probably just be deleted again, wasting everybody's time. – Joe (talk) 09:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there are more coverage than that of September. Ogele (talk) 10:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)